Crytek: PS3/360 “so behind the curve” but surprised devs can squeeze some more out of them

"Crytek are known for developing video games that push the hardware limit. They have developed a few franchises in the past but the most well known out of them is obviously Crysis. The game pushed gaming PCs to the limit and it coined a new term in the industry: Can it run Crysis? In 2011, Crytek released the fantastic Crysis 2 and later on added DX11 support although initially the PC version was not up to the mark."

[Hellsvacancy]

Shut up, your games suck, there boring, Far Cry 3 looks better than Crysis 3, graphically, you dont hear Ubisoft shouted the odds every other day

[Dark5tar1]

Maybe you should check your spelling and grammar before we listen to your opinion. That edit feature must work wonders for you.

[awi5951]

Yeah it doesnt look better at all crysis 2 with the direct x11 update and the high res texture patch looks crazy. But i wouldnt expect a console to keep up with a PC with 3 or more graphics cards in it. The gpu in the ps3 and xbox are so old my sisters old 4870 crossfire build graphics looks way better than consoles.

[NukaCola]

Funny how games like Halo and Uncharted pull GOTY awards and Crysis is only remembered for what the mods can do. These guys need to shut up. When they deliver more than visuals, then they can talk.

[KurianOfBorg]

@awi5951
Tell me more about this "sister" of yours...

[inveni0]

The problem with Crytek is that they're not good at optimization. Even the original Crysis still has graphical issues on CURRENT hardware. That's pretty sad.

[OneAboveAll]

You obviously understood what he said and meant so it really doesn't matter now does it?

I agree with Hellsvacancy, the Crysis games are just generic shooters with no substance. All they are good for is showcasing graphics on the most poorly un-optimized game engine to date.

[shutUpAndTakeMyMoney]

Dude stop raging at devs who can't hear you and get a life.

Farcry 3 doesn't look better than this.
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
or can do this.
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

There so called "sucky" games sold million each time and crysis 3 will sell millions.

They are succeeding in f2p. Warface is actually a good game.
http://www.joystiq.com/2012...

These guys made an engine and have caught up despite the Unreal Engine success.

Any other console game have so many real time effects going on?

"Crytek has DX11 graphics running in Crysis 3 on PS3, Xbox 360"
http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

If that is true have other console devs done it.

Cry more if you need to you only talk like that becuz you have seen people do it on n4g before.

A next gen demo of an rpg shown running a two year old laptop.
http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

These make games so they have a right to talk game creation. Stick to your level of knowledge and worry about pressing power, start, R1.

I would bet $50 you have a copy of black ops 2 while talking sh!t.

Don't care about agrees like u.

Go ahead talk more as they sell million why waste ur time with non facts?

[Godmars290]

Well I don't buy their games. How's that?

[RuperttheBear]

'Well I don't buy their games. How's that? '

It means you aren't one of the millions that bought their games. Simple really. I don't buy a lot of games that others buy.

What are you trying to really say? Are you doing the text equivalent of blowing a raspberry at shutUpAndTakeMyMoney?

Because that's quite childish really.

[slayorofgods]

Wow! The PS4 will likely be announced in something like a month or so, after the holidays..

And it is still blasphemy to say a pc has better graphics the a ps3 / 360..

I hate to throw logic back into everyone's windows but its a no brainer that ps3/360 are behind the curve.

The only thing interesting about this article is that Crytek is saying developers can still squeeze a lot into something that is so far behind to still make them feel current.

[brianunfried]

Far Cry 3 is full of screen tearing, it looks really bad and kind of ruins the game for me. Crysis 2 had none on the PS3 version. Killzone 1 & 2 and Rage have no screen tearing either and they both look incredible.

[MRMagoo123]

@brianunfried

If your getting loads of screen tearing in far cry 3 you are playing a copy of it i havent seen before.

[pixelsword]

Yes, the PS3 and 360 are behind the curve.

The curve isn't that vast, though; You can only thing about one game that defined PC gaming this gen, and it is Crysis.

Not crysis 2

Probably Crysis 3 though.

Other than that, the differences aren't to the point where everyone's going ape-scat over the PC's graphics like last gen, even.

[Redgehammer]

Bubble for you Rupert, thx, for making me chuckle.

[AKS]

I think the people who are acting enraged are just looking at snippets of interviews like the quote in the title and interpreting that as an attack on the consoles. If this was Crytek's actual position, they could just delay the console release until next year or skip it entirely. Instead, they're attempting to use tech in Crysis 3 that has never been attempted on consoles before, which seems like a good thing to me. I certainly appreciated it when Team ICO put in the effort to mimic HDR rendering with Shadow of the Colossus on PS2.

I've seen interviews from Crytek guys admitting that they wished they could have pushed things further in Crysis 2 and that they are really trying to impress gamers with the improvements they've made in Crysis 3. There's also the fact that they put forth the considerable effort and investment to make CryEngine3 compatible with consoles. The idea that they are against consoles just doesn't square with what they've been doing. But if some want to instead just make assumptions based off of a provocative title on N4G, I guess that's what they'll do.

[Godmars290]

@RuperttheBear
Think of it as me showing contempt towards game devs who have done jack-sh*t for gaming besides complain about the platforms they have to work with.

Also not feeling to good towards the gamers who defend Crytek and their resource hog title when it was a resource hog. It doesn't matter that years after the fact of releasing a single game which required massive upgrades to play on minimum settings they "fixed" the problem, its that they caused and further highlighted a problem with the PC gaming industry. Namely that it was pricing and upgrading itself out of existence.

Now they're trying to do things as cheaply and low-end as possible, have even moved into the competing console market, and yet companies like Crytek are still bit*ching that the market should cater to them instead of the other way around. Nevermind that they've yet to actually do anything of actual substance. Just make pretty looking FPS.

And not really being much of a FPS fan, first person perspective games in general which means I've largely been SOL for much of this gen, I have even less reason or want to touch a Crytek game.

If you and others like them all well and good, just please get off their co*k for long enough to realize that by the sales of their games they aren't the end all and be all of gaming.

[Parallax_Films]

and Crysis 1 PC looks better than FarCry 3 PC and Crysis 2 PC; can't speak for Crysis 3 yet for obvious reasons.

[ThanatosDMC]

It really does. They downgraded with Crysis 2. I was hoping Far Cry 3 would look as great as the jungles of Crysis 1 on Ultra... they have the same flora in consoles. Maybe a mod can make it look like a crazier jungle.

[Parallax_Films]

Except for the rocks. Crysis 1 rocks look terrible at times, but the water, vegetation, and physics look consistently superior when set to Very High.

Far Cry 3 has better rocks, fire, gun models, character models, and vehicle handling. Plus you can freaking fly (err, glide with style). Far Cry 3 also has the better story and is a lot more fun than Crysis 1 or 2 overall. The plants in Far Cry 3 are a lot stiffer and there are no destructible structures. The water is also relatively very static and animated looking, rather than organic & dynamic. Crysis 1 water is still better than any water I've seen in a game since; when a bullet hits the water in Crysi 1, it actually ripples and creates mist (though the ripples don't interact with one another).

That isn't to talk bad about Far Cry 3 on any platform; I think it's an amazing game and gave over 30 hours in it already. Just wish it wasn't fundamentally limited to what the consoles can do.

[Kratos_Kills]

Far Cry 3 looks great but it's no where close to Crysis 3.

[greenpowerz]

Started the game up and turned off after I reached the village. Have not played it since(three days now)

Too blurry durring movment hurts my eyes and makes my head hurt.

The detail in C3 is breath taking.
http://s.pro-gmedia.com/vid...

http://s.pro-gmedia.com/vid...

[sourav93]

But do you think the console version of Crysis 3 will be able to match up to the console version of Far Cry 3? Keep in mind that FC3 is truly open-world, and I doubt we'll get the same amount of freedom in Crysis 3, going by their previous games.

[awi5951]

@sourav93

Crysis 1 was too open world thats why alot of people hated it. I loved that game played it on max graphics. And i had the best time just messing with the A.I sniping them sneaking up on them and just just screwing around and not playing the game lol.

[Imalwaysright]

@ greenpowerz you're missing out on one of the best FPS ever made. Take an aspirin or something and go play FC3. After you finish it go play Crysis 1/2 and you'll realize how crappy those games are. Ubisoft Montreal > Crytek. They took Crytek's franchise and took it to a whole different level. A level that i doubt Crytek will ever reach.

[Ducky]

Well, if you read the article, he did praise a certain recently released game that looks amazing on consoles.

[ritsuka666]

So many facepalm comments here... sigh. -___-

[GraveLord]

A little harsh, but yeah, someone needs to keep their mouth shut.

[HardCover]

LOL what a noob

[starchild]

You are blind if you think Far Cry 3 looks better than Crysis 3.

You might not enjoy their games but there are many of us that do.

[scissor_runner]

Nintendo should just pay them to make them an engine on the wiiu. They know graphics and retro knows game play....

Really they might be the only studio ready right now for the next gen. They could always find a writer to story up their games though.

[GearSkiN]

MAN FAR CRY 3 IS AN AWESOME GOOD LOOKIN GAME! and no it doesnt look as good compare to Crysis 3 i dont know how old you are but im sure a mature person can tell by their on eyes that Far Cry 3 doesnt even come close to crysis 3. and im talking about ps3/xbox360 version. lets not even compare PC coz thats just wrong.

[dredgewalker]

Crysis 2 was not bad but also not good for me. I consider a game good when there is replay value in it. Once I finished Crysis 2 I never felt the compulsion of playing it again. I think the problem with it is that it's on rails and it get's too predictable because of that. I like graphics but without great gameplay a game isn't fun for me.

[Pain_Killer]

FarCry 3 is inferior than Crysis 1 graphically.

Far Cry 3 has no Physics.

Far Cry 3's environment is static compared to that of Crysis 1. You shot a plant or tree with a bullet, the leaves would sway in a realistic manner.

Crysis's water is more realistic than Far Cry 3, It was built using dynamic parallax occlusion mapping supported by DX10 cards available that generation.

The Textures are gorgeous and far more HD than Far Cry 3.

Far Cry 3 in terms of graphics (i again say) Far Cry 3 graphically is just a inferior mod of Crysis 1. Story is better in certain cases but im more of a Sci-Fi dude so you can take a hint.

[Imalwaysright]

And yet FC3 is a masterpiece and its one of those games that will be remembered years from now. Crysis 1/2 were released a few years ago and are only remembered for being glorified tech demos, not for being good games. Case and point your own comment. Graphics this, physics that.

When im playing FC3 the last thing on my mind is how plants react to a bullet. Im often too busy running away from a bear just to suddendly see a tiger in front of me and thinking that after all that running im gonna die when the tiger decides to go after the bear giving me enough time to get the hell as far away from them as i can. That is what i want in my games. I could care less about plants reacting to bullets.

[Pain_Killer]

@Imalwaysright We are talking about graphics superiority here in which Crysis 1 is a better game compared to FarCry 3.

They put in animals in the game which can be approached dynamically but left the key part of the jungle (Plants, Environment) static.

And yes, to you it may not matter but the dozens of comments above and below us prove that graphics and performance of any specific title may it be current gen or next gen is a point to ponder by gamers.

[SephirothX21]

Crytek may not be the best game developer but they are an excellent game engine developer. Few companies can make an engine as good as CryEngine 3. Plus they provide the sdk for free. Here, they are not talking about game design but the technical challenge of getting the most out of hardware as limited and dated as 360 and PS3. Far Cry 3 is an excellent game and has great graphics but overall, it does not look as good as Crysis 3 will.

[cchum]

Crytek is the ID of today; only caring about graphics and technology. Gameplay>Graphics everyday of the week a.k.a. you can polish a turd

[iamnsuperman]

I swear Crytek are the only company to spout this stuff regularly. They need to sort out their PR because this isn't really getting me excited for Crysis 3 instead Crytek are coming off badly

[Rashid Sayed]

I kinda agree with you. They did the same talk during Crysis 2. But they failed miserably with the PC version of the game. But again, they seem to have learnt from their lessons.

Fingers cross for this game.

[hop3lessfray]

Agreed 100%. The first week on PC was pretty much a mess. As was with RAGE. It's a shame that the developers who gained their fame on the PC are shunning it.

[Shaman]

Or maybe its because they get interviewed alot on these questions and press finds them relevant on the issue? Its not like they have monthly press conferences about how weak PS360 are.

[CobraUnit]

So you want them to lie and spread nonsense about these consoles having some special "untapped" power that has yet to be unleashed? this isn't propaganda or bs PR, this is REAL PR!

They're just saying it the way it truly is, and I like how suddenly all these PS3 fanboys are using FC3 as a counter argument whenever Crytek mentions anything about their technical & graphical prowess.

FC3 looks like shit compared to Crysis 3, this site has to be the first site I've come across where people are saying FC3 looks better than Crysis 3, it's obvious you people are only saying that because you feel offended for absolutely no reason.

What's there to be offended about anyway? if Crytek maxed out the PS3/360 so what, ah! because ND haven't said it's maxed out then they're lying right? are you people lemmings? can't you think for yourselves.

Technically Crytek could use CE3 to make TLOU better looking than what ND have done, but you guys wouldn't know anything about engines would you since you're too busy bending down for Sony.

The only reason I'm bringing up graphics is because that's all you guys ever talk about anyway, and whenever you're beloved exclusives are out done you guys start rambling on about how it's all about the gameplay & story even though most PS3 exclusives lack good stories and have bad gameplay.

You guys must've been traumatised after reading this article seeing as how many of you guys overreact and post nonsensical jargon with your emotions running wild.

Are those peas functioning?

[jimbobwahey]

Hahaha oh wow. It looks like the only person that's offended here is you, with your whiny ranting and swearing. Keep on raging there, buddy! Everybody else will just keep laughing at your absurd anti-Sony fanboy crying.

[NYC_Gamer]

Crytek needs to work on better story telling and better gameplay

[SageHonor]

^ This

[DeadlyFire]

They are novice, but I suspect they will improve more and more with each game they make.

They are also making Homefront 2 for 2013. I question whether that game will be Grade A or average.

[sourav93]

Well said. +1 bubbles

[Imalwaysright]

True notice that when someone talks about Crysis the only thing they have to say about it are its graphics. Crysis 1/2 are average games at best.

[jimbobwahey]

Well after some moron has gone and wasted $800 on a graphics card just to try and outdo a $250 console, you better believe he's gonna whine about graphics to try and justify that purchase.

I'd be mad as hell too if I paid through the nose for some sloppy, glitchy ports of console games :D

[animegamingnerd]

agreed they should just make engines and not make games since they happen to look good but suck

[TheModernKamikaze]

if you don't like how it looks on consoles or even bother with it, don't complain, they know what they're getting into.
All I think of them is that they do it for money.

[Dark5tar1]

It's probably EA that wants Crytek to port it to consoles. EA IS the publisher after all.

[TheModernKamikaze]

Good point.

[MizTv]

Crysis2 had a good sp but man I could just not get into the mp at all
But that said I think 3 will be real fun

[BanBrother]

TBH, I could not enjoy the SP or the MP. The MP was a laggy mess for me. The SP, while not necessarily bad, it was boring (at least for me).

Graphically, I think Crysis 3 will be the best looking game (after the mods are done with it), but I'd prefer I good story and better game-play. If I hear positive things about the story, I may just consider getting it.

[MizTv]

na thats cool but we both agree the mp sucked balls lol

[MrDead]

He's not trashing current consoles like the title implies, he's just saying you can't get the PC experience "graphically" on consoles which is understandable on systems that came out in 2005 and 2006.

I just think Crytek should work on releasing Crysis 3 for the PS4 and next Xbox and leave this gen that they seem to have some issues with.

[Hicken]

But it seems like the only thing they ever talk about is the PC experience "graphically." Their games aren't exactly known for having memorable stories or innovative gameplay, and when it comes to consoles, their releases aren't really very high up the list, graphically.

They keep saying the same thing- "Consoles are maxed out"- as if it's the only thing that matters; meanwhile, they ignore all the other important aspects of a game that should be improved upon.

Frankly, it's gotten annoying.

[Ducky]

Their older games like FarCry1 and Crysis1 did have innovative gameplay since they were more 'open' games and gave the player some level of freedom.
Crysis1's story wasn't all that great, but the reveal of the aliens and snow transition was a memorable moment.

This was before/around the time of CoD4 though. Unfortunately, Crytek seems to be following CoD's formula now by making the typical linear shooters. Either they've lost their vision, or in the pursuit of having pretty visuals on consoles, they've decided to sacrifice the open level design.

[MrDead]

I agree about the story in Crytec games being their weaker point but they have interesting ideas that are able to carry the game, Crysis sometimes just seems like a muscle flexing competition "mine are bigger than yours thus making me better"

But then again story never seems to be their real focus they just want to make people go “oooh that looks amazing” and on the PS3 and 360 unlike other developers they haven’t been able to do that. This is why I think Crysis 3 should be a release title on the next gen systems, then maybe they can impress us with their fireworks.

[RuperttheBear]

You see Far Cry 3 Hicken? That whole idea for a game started with the first Far Cry. Show me another game that did what Far Cry did before it came out, and tell me they didn't innovate.

[Allsystemgamer]

So wait a minute. They complain about the consoles but dumb down their PC versions in favor on the consoles? That's a bit hypocritical isn't it?

I wasn't knocking consoles btw I own em all. I was just saying how crysis 2 was a massive leap back from 1 in favor of a more linear console style shooter as opposed to an open world strategic shooter.

[Bar_Brothers]

Halo 4 looks better than Crysis 3 on Consoles
I dont know what Crytek is braging all about seriously.

[Norrison]

I don't know what you're talking about, there are no crysis 3 console videos/screenies out.

[VeteRAN]

Someone mentioned Far Cry 3 being better than Crysis 3 graphically. First of all, L O friggin' L. Second, are you on drugs. Third, google search Crysis 3 "The Fields Walkthrough" single player gameplay. Fourth, if you find that Crysis 3 footage to be below par then i have no hope for you and may god have mercy on your soul.

edit* Just want to say i am referring to the PC version of Far Cry 3 and Crysis 3 and not the console versions.

[CobraUnit]

There's no point trying to talk any sense into these PS3 baboons, running around screaming and shouting in the jungles is what they do best.

[Pain_Killer]

FarCry 3 is hardly any better than Crysis 1 graphically, talk about visual superiority over Crysis 3? lol

[CanadianTurtle]

After seeing Crysis 2 run like garbage on my PS3, I don't think I trust Crytek anymore. And Crysis2 wasn't the best looking game on PS3. It looked mediocore at best, and played mediocore.

I can name ten games off the bat that look better than Crysis2 on consoles.

[RuperttheBear]

'I can name ten games off the bat that look better than Crysis2 on consoles. '

Go on then.

[CanadianTurtle]

Here goes no effort:

Uncharted 2
Uncharted 3
Resistance 3
KillZone 2
KillZone 3
Heavy Rain
Gears of War 3
LA Noire
RAGE
inFamous 2

[Autodidactdystopia]

i TOO would be interested in hearing this list.

[TheKindRoost]

Crytek maybe ahead tech wise, but they're far far...far behind in making actual enjoyable games.Crysis is
nothing more than a tech showcase,story/characters/ environment(despite being graphically advanced) are bland and generic in the literal term. Honestly these as engineers they may be brilliant but as game developers they gets more credits and free pass than they deserve.

[PersonMan]

Well said. Bubbles.

[josephayal]

AAAX5 GRAPHICS Never seen before, your console could overheat
I Can't wait for CRYSIS 3 on the PS3, The PS3 is truly an amazing piece of hardware

[aquamala]

console gamers can't say games look good on current gen consoles, and at the same time say they can't wait for next gen consoles. that makes no sense.

[chukamachine]

Crysis has better graphics then FARCRY3, but FC3 isn't very decent looking. Love the fire fx burning stuff, although when wood burns it does not burn to ash or fall apart like it should.

I've only played FC3 on PC.

[black911]

There Just Referring To The 360.

[aquamala]

because Crysis 2 on PS3 looks so different than on 360?

[Hasanhastam]

Yes crysis 2 had amazing visuals but it sucked in gameplay ai story and far cry 3 never beat crysis 3 in graphic but it has gameplay ai and characters that turn far cry 3 to one of my best game i ever played And its graphic plays with my eyes even on my xbox. i recomend forget frame rate and enjoy!

[Enigma_2099]

... and once again, it's all about the graphics.

[Godmars290]

Of course what makes this especially odious is that Crytek came into consoles in an attempt to supplant Epic's position, and they've largely either only complained about working on the PS3 and 360, or they've been reversing themselves about the complaints.

The least - the very least - I can say about Epic is that though UE3 was broken and incomplete at the start of this gen, at least they shut up and did their best to make it work where they could.

[Dlacy13g]

Yeah Crytek...while I admire the graphical punch they can deliver... remember "gameplay" is king. The Walking Dead is not a graphical powerhouse and yet I have had more fun and investment with that game than I have had with any of Crytek's.

[Muerte2494]

I love how people...
were saying Heavy Rain isn't a game and was just quicktime events. Tectile Games used the exact formula Quadractic Dreams used with Heavy Rain and Indigo Prophecy. The fact is that Walking Dead uses QTE too, but that doesn't come up at all. I guess it's because Walking Dead is available for Xbox360/ps3. I guess all the unwarranted hatred towards Heavy Rain (by 360 crowd) turned out to be just jealousy and envy. The hypocrisy continues. But Walking Dead is enjoyable.

[Dlacy13g]

Heavy Rain most certainly is under appreciated by gaming at large. Both HR and Walking Dead suffered from less than ideal "controls" but being honest both rose above the controls to be games that should be played. I slagged HR early on for its controls but I will be honest in saying its story and emotional drama were really quite good. Makes me look forward to Beyond Two Souls.

[black911]

Someone should make a title on How come Heavy Rain didnt win Game if the Yearr. PS3 gets cheated just like the Raiders "Tuck Rule"

[isyourhouseonfire]

If Rockstar or Bethesda made this statement I'd take it serious. But Crytek hasn't made a good game since the original FarCry. They don't have a leg to stand on in this industry.

Crytek, shut up.

[CalvinKlein]

IMO cryteck has always been "behind the curve" in every aspect besides graphics.

Hey crytec, Is the ps3 or xbox 360 so behind the curve that it cant run you complex AI where the enemies cant even go up 5 stairs. Is that the reason that pursuing enemies in crysis 2 stopped in a clump at the bottom of some stairs when chasing me?

[Bumpmapping]

Crytek=Second rate developers
Please make a game worth playing maybe we will listen to you.

[onandonandon]

I don't care how good it looks, the gameplay is dull, AI is awful and the weapons feel about as powerful as peashooters!!!

[Zha1tan]

Then stfu and come back to PC and start expanding the scope of your game instead of limiting it on dated hardware if you are so bothered by it.

[soundslike]

Thats assuming its the consoles holding them back, and not the publisher making them go more linear COD style.

If its the former, then they absolutely should just forget about consoles. But if its the latter then they're fucked either way...

[TemplarDante]

Far Cry 3 = open world > Crysis 3 = not open world

[Holeran]

If the next gen consoles can look as good as some of the tech trailers I've seen from new games coming out to pc then we are all in for a real treat. They may say that we won't see a big jump current gen to next gen visually but if they come close to the in game tech trailers I've seen we are going to be floored.

[Pizza]

Another trash talk from Crytek.

I'm tired of "max out" or "push to the limit"

How about saying "optimize" for console and PC?

[spicelicka]

Enough with squeezing the consoles!! Everybody's talking about squeezing things out of consoles for the last two years.

It's getting close to sexual harassment now, stop squeezing them!!!!

[zen555]

I always think its funny that people take offense to a dev saying PC is lightyears beyond a console. It is simply a fact.

When a console is launched the hardware inside is already at least 2 years old compared to the most modern pc. THrow in a 7 year console life span and by the end you are left with something that is not even comparable to what can be seen on a modern pc.

Don't get me wrong I have a PC and a gaming PC, I just don't understand why people are so shocked that the pc is lightyears ahead by now.. Just think about how old the hardware in 360 / ps3 is.

[zen555]

** ps3 and gaming pc

[Baka-akaB]

" I just don't understand why people are so shocked that the pc is lightyears ahead by now"

Not really , it seems more like some people are tired of the dead horse being beaten constantly . It's starting to looks like necrophilia .

"pc are more powerful" DUUUHHH . OK everyone gets it for the most part let's move on .

In the meantime crysis 2 was a mediocre sequel , and they are already autocongratualing themselves for finding some middle ground between crysis 1 and a mediocre crysis 2 ? Wow ... that does look appealing /s