OmniGamer Writes "There are rumors ladies and gentlemen that Microsoft next generation console will be more powerful then Sony’s next generation console.
Could it be possible that Microsoft’s next console out muscle Sony’s console? Let’s take a look at all the rumor specs, to see if we can get a conclusion of who will be the big dog on the playground. For this article will refer to Sony’s next generation console as the "PS4" and Microsoft’s next generation console as the "Xbox 720""
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We have no idea what both Sony and Microsoft plan on doing or how much they will cost. Microsoft went all out with the Xbox and was more reserved with the Xbox 360. Sony went all out with the PS3, will they with the PS4?
Two consoles will probably be equally matched in terms of power.
AMD/Intel x86 > RISC CPU(IBM Power7) anyday of the week. This is fact and not fiction. Amature news with no information about CPUs.
16 threaded Power7 CPU vs. 4-8 threaded x86 APU. Who wins in this deal? x86. Power series is nice and all, but there is a reason that x86 has a market for Desktop gaming on the PC/Mac Platforms and RISC CPUs do not at the moment.
Popularity has nothing to do with performance - that's a first grade argument! The reason Desktops are still using the x86 CPU is because of backward compatibility and the cost of starting over. But there is a reason why all the consoles of this generation went with IBM designed CPU's.
So if Sony decides to go with an AMD CPU in the PS4, then will it will be for cost-to-performance reasons and not for performance reasons.
The IBM designed Cell was faster than most desktop CPU's at mathematical calculations for several years when the PS3 came out - It was scoring higher than almost anything desktop wise doing the Folding@Home project
Everyone do you're research on CPU architectures and stop being lame.
Multiplat games didn't differ much this gen because the more powerful system was also the system that was more difficult to develop for.
When the PS2 and Xbox were competing, the Xbox was more powerful and easier to develop for. Because of that, developers more often than not took advantage of that and multiplat games almost ALWAYS looked better (by a lot) on the Xbox.
The rumored specs for both the next Xbox and Playstation are promising because they are both using less complicated architecture that should ease development for developers. Depending on which console is more powerful (and by how much), you could very well see similar trend as the one I described above. The next console race could be won based off of better multiplat performance alone.
so ps4 devs it is!
Rare will push kinect 190%
http://www.digitaltrends.co...
Some good things has to come out of this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
"Only the best i7 core can compete with the lower end Power7 architecture"
The CPU you talk about as in the POWER7 is really a server only core built for raw performance at immense expense (launched starting at around $3k for the lower end you mentioned and going up, up and UP -I kid you not). X86 like Ivy Bridge, were not. Very little to do with console processors. I can't emphasise this enough.
"there is a reason why all the consoles of this generation went with IBM designed CPU's"
That reason is cost. The IBM designed cores in the consoles were cheaper than an X86 core of that period. Not faster, CHEAPER per FLOP. Budget constraints. Period. Although RISC is also a bit more power efficient too. You can point to the crappiness of the cut down cores inside PS3/360, hardly any cache, 2 issue in order execution with a too long pipeline in the case of X360. They suck compared to an X86 of the same era.
Sony would go with a fusion design because of costs, but that doesn't mean an IBM processor in another machine will easily outperform it as you seem to be suggesting.
"The IBM designed Cell was faster than most desktop CPU's (x86) at mathematical calculations"
Sort of. CELL is a heavily parallelised processor. The key bit here is that 'mathematical calculations' are not the same as 'running game code better'. An X86 CPU from the past 6 or 7 years is just stupendously better at running game type code (AI, branching integer which is hugely important) than CELL.
A better comparison is am early GPGPU versus CELL. Which of course, CELL loses too horribly as well.....folding at home is dominated by GPUs. But then, that aint gaming either....
Stop being....lame?
you can only count to potato? I can count to lettuce. Beat that.
"powah of teh cell"
"Nvidia rapes Amd"
"Crysis >>> Consoles"
"Nintendo WiiU is weak"
Now that the next Xbox will likely be more powerful due to what happened to Sony's stock this gen, it no longer matters and means nothing. N4G folks
@ kamikaze down there, you are perfectly correct, games matter. WiiU 'may' have games this time, Xbox 'may' start pushing the exclusives(since this was Sony's perogitive and imo it worked) if MS can start ****ing trying then they can do good, since they have the extra money to advertise each and every game they put out.
Sony, whatever happens, even if it turns out weaker than even expected(which is already weaker than Nexbox) will always have their exclusives and games. What I want is better software, firmware etc, other than that a substantial hardware upgrade is fine for me. Don't care how powerful it is compared to the other one.
Either way i'll be getting all 3 at some point, the WiiU is sure to have some solid exclusives again, even if their were only few on the Wii
Eidt--wow someone said i'm butthurt about not having a Ps3 in another article, well, yes I do. Because I feel that certain exclusives are overrated on the system and that 'other' exclusives on the system deserve more recognition, advertising, higher ratings and sales than Uncharted, Killzone, and god of war...I apparently don't own one.
Top 5 Ps3 Exclusives in no order
Heavy Rain
Valkria Chronicles
GT5 with G25 wheel, which I bought specifically for it
Warhawk
Demons souls(even if I like Dark better, still this game is one of my favorite ever)
I'm sure Ni no Kuni will soon be fighting for my top 5
rumors ?! lol
At the end of the day, until they have both confirmed their specs, it will just be fanboy A vs fanboy B.
Every gen has seen a different company as the most powerful. At the end of the day, it is up to the developers to give us something special. Last gen the PS2 was significantly less powerful than the Xbox, but somehow churned out games as good looking as FFX, God Of War, Killzone etc.
What?
It's stupid i know.
That those 2 consoles (720 and PS4) will be more powerful than the Wii U.
However I will buy both. I don't want to miss any great games assuming MS actually has some again circa 2007/2008.
I want Jak4, Killer Instinct and new game IPs that are not heavy shooter based. There's been enough shooters this gen to choke a mule.
I like the comments, discussions, and debates about video games. Hell, even trolling is sometimes funny. But when it's all about speculation and fanboys get all riled up over NOTHING concrete it's a pain in the @$$ to see.
A more important question is: What will happen if the xbox 720 is more powerful than the PS4?
A question more important than that one is: Who really cares?
yeah that's N4G
I agree with your statement only to the extent of having a similar opinion, basically I'm saying don't try to pass your opinion as a fact.
We don't know what will happen next gen , the console market is unpredictable 6 years ago people thought the ps3 wouldn't have lasted 2 years now look , people innitialy thought the Wii mote was a revolution in gaming then look how that turned out the novelty wore out yeats ago ,see where I'm going with this
PC used to light the way for consoles but considering it's barely better than 6 year old consoles it is hard to imagine how much better nextgen can get.
Hopefully they'll at least be better than current PCs though.
MICROSOFT has always been at the forefront of technical innovation, just like S
And this is not a fanboy speaking, I love the big three; it's the voice of truth.
1) Designing a console that can't even enable its users to send voice messages let a lone dedicate enough RAM to enable key and much requested features like Cross-Game chat?
2) 'Innovating' with their controller by essentially just carrying on the same old design of the previous console and then, having seen Nintendo unveil the Wii, make a poor last minute attempt to copy them by way of the SixAxis
3) Copying Microsoft and its innovation regarding Achievements
4) What jmac53 said
I'm sorry but yours isn't the voice of truth. Sony did go all out regarding the PS3 but they had the lets chuck everything we can think of mentality; big HDD, HDMI, BLU-RAY, built in Wifi etc which is all good but its not really innovating with the exception of BLU-RAY tech.
Comparatively, MS innovated more by clearly thinking about things like the controller; which was sculpted around players' hands, Xbox Live by way of its interface, Achievements which in itself was a touch of genius, cross-game chat, dedicating a decent amount of RAM for OS processes etc.
Don't get me wrong, they made stupid decisions too like not making HDD's mandatory (why?!), skimping out on built in Wifi and HDMI in their early consoles and other things.
Nintendo, Sony and MS are all at the forefront of technical innovation. Nintendo with its seminal motion control tech that really changed gaming and brought it to the masses, MS making a concerted push with Xbox Live and really pressurising others to make similar strides in making a cohesive online community and Sony delivering great IPs.
on top of that, the xbox has a better gpu but not a better cpu.
but so.what? developers unloaded the work onto spus so they can add better processing effects etc.
its all the developers because next gen will nearly be the same anyways. maybe slight power difference but even then, some developers will amaturely design games.
i guess the best example is a pc, best powerhouse hands down but it all depends on developers
And?
AAA quality games important, not only power.