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Submitted by Theyellowflash30 737d ago | opinion piece

Major Gaming Media’s Distaste for Nintendo & the Wii U

By Furious Francis, editor-in-chief

Nintendo has always had a massive fan base, who loves their games like Mario, Metroid, and Zelda. Leagues of fans lined up to get the Wii and Wii U on their respective launch days, but one thing is clear. There is a wildly different perception of Nintendo, from the consumers who purchase their products and the media who cover them . If you went off the media's perception of Nintendo and the Wii U, one would think they are the worst company ever. Many major media sites have been insanely critical of the Wii U because it doesn't fit their perceptions of how a console should be. Before you read the rest of the article. Take a look at the latest episode of the Annoyed Gamer on Gametrailers.com. This type of attitude toward Nintendo is widespread in the gaming industry. You can even check out my interview with Craig from Screwattack. He called the system trash before it was even released. Please comment and let us know what you think. (Next-Gen, Nintendo, PS3, Wii U, Xbox 360)

Credit url: gametrailers.com
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browngamer41  +   737d ago
All very valid points...Nintendo gets more hate from the games media and "hardcore" gamers(I was playing hardcore games on my Nintendo systems before most of these idiots were born)than any other company...
jmc8888  +   737d ago
No it's really not just 'hardcore' gamers.

I'm a 'hardcore' gamer. Like you I was playing hardcore games on the NES as they were way more hardcore than on my Apple II or Atari 2600, etc.

But I also like Nintendo games. Even though I didn't get a Wii, I saw the value in people getting one. The Wii U has what I want, and I want some Nintendo games and hopefully some good ports.

Doesn't mean it needs to, my PC is more powerful than what the 720 or PS4 will be. Didn't matter, I still wanted a Wii U. Will still get the others as well.

It's funny that it's not 'hardcore' gamers that hate the systems. It's people who ONLY like 'hardcore' games that due to their past perceptions (aka a guess by them) that don't like the system. They are in their own little bubble. Because you CAN be like millions of other gamers who like 'hardcore' games and yet still like what Nintendo offers, and realizes that no....Nintendo doesn't automatically mean 'kiddie'. Only fools think like that. To them, they must think 'don't spend a penny all in one place' still holds true....because things never change according to them.
Triggytrolls  +   737d ago
A lot of the kids that hate on the Wii U are not old enough to remember a console before the days of playstation/xbox.
darthv72  +   737d ago
@the first two
both of you are using the term "hardcore" to describe the games rather than the practice of playing games.

That is where there is a disconnect between older and younger gamers. older gamers understand the connotation of such a term like casual or hardcore as it relates to the amount of dedication one put into playing games. It wasnt the "type" of game at all.

The younger generation of gamers (as eluded to by triggytrolls) at some point took those designations and made them fit more to the type of game they played.

for example, by today's classification a game like tetris is a casual game by nature. yet there can be some pretty hardcore tetris players out there. In my phrasing, the term hardcore describes the amount of effort into playing a game of tetris as someone playing on a more regular/consistent basis than someone else.

Simply put, pretty much every gamer can be classified as both hardcore AND casual depending on how much time they put into a game. I myself am a casual halo player but have been a hardcore mario kart player now and then. It is by the addictive nature of a game that can make the term go either way.

When i was younger, you earned the right to be called a hardcore gamer because you pretty much played games all the time. It didnt matter what game just so long as the addictive nature of the game sucked you in more than the next guy.

on a side note...what triggytroll said has some merit. Most younger gamers dont know what it was like to progress from the days of pong up through the 2600 on to today. therefore there is no appreciation of where gaming came from and with that there is a lack of respect to the pioneers of the hobby.

I do believe with age comes wisdom and at some point these younger players will be older and having similar conversations with younger gamers about how things were different in their early years as well.
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Muffins1223  +   736d ago
I got a gtx680 and its like atleast twice as powerful as next gen consoles lol...cause its around 500 dollars and no way will the graphics card for next gen consoles be around 250
ozstar  +   736d ago
@Triggytrolls, but none of them bought the Xbox.

Which is the point here really. Generational favoritism swings just as quickly in the core gamer market than it does in the mainstream market, its just theres paid trolls like GT who rely on core gamers for ad profit.

None of this matters anyway, you see its app gaming thats incurring on traditional gaming media, not the opposite.
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Dark5tar1  +   737d ago
All valid points. The Annoyed Gamer is stupid that its Nintendo's fault for a crappy port that was WB's job. I would bet money if Rocksteady ported it, it would be MUCH better. Michael Pachter, who listens to that nut?
MsmackyM  +   737d ago
I've enjoyed gaming since 1985 and I guess I have taken it for granted not everyone who games just do it for the enjoyment. Beating up on a product that you don't have to buy, look at, or pay attention to, really makes me envy other peoples free time.
Kamikaze  +   737d ago
Ok and your point is....
twilight_link  +   737d ago
Nintendo was extremely successful for well over 25 years, they created modern mainstream gaming, when they became extremely successful they where betrayed by 3rd party companies, they lived under the shadow of giant. When opportunity arose they betrayed Nintendo especially Japanese developers (Square and co.). Rationale was quite simple support platform holders with dependency on their will, Sega and after all Sony, you can extort them because their success depend on their good will, in this case they can literary create or ruin platform.

Nintendo was not this case not only Nintendo survived their treason but in long therm period they flourished.

Sony and M$ success is completely dependent on their good will.

Nintendo survived EVEN without them or rather despite of them, so they try with bad ports and slander.
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dennett316  +   737d ago
I think the attitude towards Nintendo by many in the gaming media - and many gamers as well - is really bizarre considering the amount of complaints being thrown around about the state of gaming in general.

Here we have a company in Nintendo that does things differently, focusses on games, and hasn't resorted to the nickel and diming that is annoying gamers all over the place - on disc DLC, online passes, micro transactions that offer little value, etc. They offer different experiences to the typical FPS/3rd person action titles that are barely different from each other which gamers claim to be getting sick of.
Gamers claim to be sick of bug ridden games being released and having to wait for the inevitable patch to fix it, yet that's so rare with Nintendo games that when a potentially game breaking bug was pointed out in Skyward Sword, it made a fair bit of news.

In short, the attitude of some gamers and media outlets to Nintendo is nothing short of bewildering to me considering the amount of complaining going on regarding the so-called main players in the industry. Are Nintendo perfect? Of course not, no company is. But why people are so hostile towards them while giving the industry stagnating likes of Sony and Microsoft a free pass is utterly beyond me.

They've delivered a fantastic console with the Wii U, and yet many are so dead set against giving them any time at all to prove the credentials of the machine and what it's capable of with it's innovative features. It's being written off based on the launch games, there's constant whining about the specs from people that don't even know what the specs actually mean or what's to come from the likes of Sony and MS...it's truly bizarre to see.

Nintendo's demise has been predicted since the N64, and each time they have proved the doubters wrong. Even so-called flops like the Gamecube were still profitable exercises and featured some excellent games.
The next time that gamers complain about a publisher screwing them over with DLC, or Sony and MS doing something with their hardware that they don't like, I'll simply shrug my shoulders and point out that they made their own beds by being so willing to accept it while bashing a genuine alternative option which was largely free of such troubles.
Crillvirus81  +   737d ago
I agree with you 100% most people never payed a wii u but will say it's garbage I played a trick on my brother yesterday when he came over to my house I had black opps running on the wii u and I was playing with my back too him and I had my xbox on he was hearing people talking online in the party and everything then like five mins in to the game he's like (how you get the game looking so brite and shinny like that ) we have the same 3d tv so I said nothing I'm on the wii u he couldn't believe it and he's a Nintendo hater then I said here play with me a gave him a pro controller when he noticed that we were going to be playing the same game but one on the pad and one on the screen thats when he was amazed and it's stuff like that that makes the wii u special
insomnium2  +   737d ago
From what I've heard Wii U is bug ridden out of the gate. There was that article about x amount of reasons what bothers about Wii U. An hour long patch right out of the gate etc. etc.? Here's the article --> http://www.wired.com/gameli... Some mud thrown due to those unbelievable inconveniencies is warranted.

Nintendo doesn't nickle and dime since their online is lacking and the install base (wii) is filled with 7-12 yo kids. They can't.

Where were you in 2006-2009? I can assure you you were not on this site. You would never imply that PS3/Sony gets a free pass on stuff had you been here.
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Gamer78  +   737d ago
WII U HAS SOME BUGS AS IT IS A NEW PLATFORM, SO THAT SHOULDNT' BE SURPRISING. I PLAY WII AND WII U AND I AM 35. ALSO, THEIR ONLINE PLAY IS EVERY BIT AS GOOD AS SONY AND MS. I HAVE BOTH OF THE OTHER TWO, SO I CAN MAKE THAT COMPARISON. ALL OF THE COMPLAINING LEVIED IN '06-'09 WAS JUST AS IGNORANT AS THE WHINING IS TODAY. I HAVE HAD PATCHES ON PS3 TAKE OVER HALF AN HOUR AND I HAVE HAD MULTIPLE PATCHES ON 360 THAT TAKE A BIT OF TIME AND THAT HARDWARE IS PRETTY OLD. ALSO, 7-12 YR OLD KIDS CAN'T BUY THE HARDWARE SO THEY AREN'T THE INSTALL BASE FOR THE SYSTEM. HOW MANY 360'S OR PS3 HAVE HAD TO BE RETURNED DUE TO INTERNAL HARDWARE ISSUES I.E., RROD AND YLOD RESPECTIVELY. I AM SIMPLY STATING THAT SINCE ALL OF THIS HAS BEEN SEEN BEFORE, NINTENDO SHOULD NOT BE CRUSHED FOR SLIGHT INCONVENIENCES THAT, IN SOME CASES, WILL BE RESOLVED IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.
Ben_Grimm  +   737d ago
"Where were you in 2006-2009?"

Good lord Insomnium give it a rest already. How long will you play this 2006/09 card? It's going on 6 years now! GET OVER IT!!

Every console or device gets the doom and gloom treatment here, it does not matter if you were in the PS3, 360 or Wii articles.

And Prino is spot on, there have been numerous patches and downloads for both 360 and PS3 that took way over a half hour but now that the WiiU has ONE uh oh watch out BAAAAAD SYSTEM!

How quickly we forgive the other systems over time but damn one system out the gate for some of the same flaws.
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Nevers0ft  +   737d ago
I've said similar in other threads but party of this is Nintendo being hoisted by it's own petard. They've had huge success over the years and most milestones in gaming history are milestones set by Nintendo. Microsoft and Sony don't have the same history and aren't measured by the same standards - all they have to do to satisfy people is add a few bells and whistles. Nintendo are expected to add bells, whistles, horns, vuvuzelas and pan pipes and still somehow be priced below the competition.
Gamer78  +   737d ago
DIDN'T MEAN TO DISAGREE WITH YOU, I MEANT TO HIT THE AGREE BUTTON.
MsmackyM  +   737d ago
Please take the caps lock off.
izumo_lee  +   737d ago
That's odd cause it is usually Sony that gets the media backlash regardless of what they do. The hating on Nintendo is no where near the magnitude that Sony has endured for the entirity of this gen.

The Wii U is in the same boat as the Vita, early on in its lifecycle & 'sales' not as one expected they would be...BAM!!! Doom & Gloom. Gaming media these days are so quick to make judgement on something & care more for 'traffic ie: hits' to their site than actually doing respectful journalism.

The Wii U is gonna be fine so ignore these so called 'professionals'. The same people that believed the PS3 was 'dead', who believed the Wii was 'trash', who believed the XB360 didn't have a chance against the PS3, who believe the 3DS & now the Vita are dead.

it is like listening to a broken record.
ronin4life  +   737d ago
I've been watching the gaming industry behavior for awhile now and I have to disagree.

Nintendo has seen hate(actual hate, disregarding any legitamate criticism) Since the 64. Sony recieved NOTHING but praise, adolation and butt kissing until after the ps3 launched(not a second before) and then recieved nothing but apologists and yearly "year of the playstation 3" articles for 6 years. All while Wii was being blasted for its success.

Then the 3ds releases, does decently out the gate and... is treated as a faikure. Still is in some pockets around here. The Vita? Yes, it had some negative stories... but unlike the 3ds trash articles they were always strongly discredited and rebutted by a lot of people. All while more apologist articles kept cropping up. It never recieved the level of one sided blasting 3ds has despite having always performed far worse than 3ds ever did.(which may have helped 3ds grow stronger while keeping vita weak, ironically)

Now, look at the hottest stories. There is an article blasting wiiu, approved by the biggest anti nintendo higher ups and trolls of this site from a webpage opened ONLY for that article and the first commentors are... singing its praises. That scream Deliberate, premeditated and calculated use of this site to slander the WiiU. Have you ever seen ANYTHING like that for anyone else? Because I haven't.
izumo_lee  +   736d ago
I did not say that Nintendo does not get any negativity, i just believe that this gen Sony took the brunt of it. I guess the high expectations coming after the successes of the PS1 & PS2 was actually a detriment for Sony with the release of the PS3.

I do remember the slack that Nintendo received with the N64 & Gamecube specifically the N64. Nintendo's denial to move to a new format (CD) made the company lose a lot of 3rd party support.

This gen the gaming media did not have as high expectations for Nintendo after the poor showings of the N64 & Gamecube so the Wii flew under the radar for many gaming sites. However since the Wii targeted a different audience it wasn't taken seriously as the other 2.

With the Wii U, Nintendo have been boasting about massive 3rd party support & moving into the HD era. Now there are expectations & the gaming media is taking them seriously now cause Nintendo is being so vocal about it.

I look at it as the same as the PS3 release, after the success of the PS2 Sony was very vocal about how wonderful the PS3 is, how it was the future, etc. Nintendo is doing almost the same thing. With the Wii's success Nintendo is boasting about new way of gaming & all that PR stuff. Sony paid for their boasting & it has taken 7 years for them to climb out of that hole....hopefully Nintendo takes a step back & ease off the PR.
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spidey008  +   737d ago
I think the folks at Nintendo are very smart. They see how the tablet industry has taken off and have applied that to the Wii U. I would love to see a console with more power, but games are at a point now where you don't have to have the latest and greatest tech to develop really fantastic games.

Also Not all the media is bias against Nintendo. Kotaku really like the Wii U.
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wiiulee  +   736d ago
no matter the hate wiiu is ahead to stay..all the hate is from investors that expected either sony or microsoft to win last generation pissed off over losing alot of money.....they need to realize that nintendo is about innovation and creating legendary franchises...you dont lose with those combinations
TruthbeTold  +   736d ago
Major Gaming Media? lol

9 out of 10 hate articles are by some no name writer, from some no name site, talking BS they don't even fully understand (usually with poor grammar and spelling), then feeding it to the trolls and hate mongers here at N4G.

1 guy at IGN + 2 guys at GameTrailers + 100 hater fanboys with a video game blog =/= Major gaming media. Forget that noise. The Wii U is a great little console, doing things that no other console has done yet, and doing things done in the past, better.
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pedroyamato  +   736d ago
Hate give clicks, click give ads, ads give money.

Thats why some pseudo-journalist hate on the wii u even 99% of them never had played one before. They can make some few cents with that.

They could write not bieased articles, with fair reviews, evaluating the good and bad points before call it a disgrace, but that doesnt help calling ppl attention.

"3DS is DOOMED" articles were the most prestigious thing to write around 1 year ago, before 3DS just crush all the DS records and shut this retards out. Now they will do all they can, to make some noise, so when the wii u releases a pikmin, metroid and zelda and start selling like hot cakes they already got all the hits they need and can pretend nothing happened.

Pathetic
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lfclee  +   736d ago
They got nothing else to write so lets have a go at the wii u, let me tell you something i have been gaming since the 1970's so i know a gaming console from a radio i think? lol, this console which is called the wii u is innovation in it's self, it's outstanding and the hardcore or casual gamer is missing out big time.

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