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The Last of Us: Naughty Dog flat-out refused to put Ellie on back of the box art

GC: Naughty Dog has once again shown why they are treated with such respect around the gaming world. (PS3, The Last Of Us)

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-Mika-   737d ago | Trolling | show | Replies(30)
jc48573  +   737d ago
a big fat slap to mika from all women
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SilentNegotiator  +   736d ago
"instantly turned off" if see a girl? LAWL
melindalerma5   736d ago | Spam
medziarz  +   736d ago
so then hating on a person with a different opinion aside, why was ND pressured to change the cover?
is Mr Shuhei Yoshida sexist or has he been reading the statistics? ;P
That was completely disrespectful to Ken Levine. They have 100% faith in Elizabeth
BanBrother  +   736d ago
It did come across as a bit disrespectful. More like differing opinions. I respect both Irrational and Naughty Dogs position.

At then end of the day, 2K are a big publisher, just like EA,ACTI,UBI etc, so they (Irrational) have less of a opinion on what should go on the cover. Sony usually let the developers decide (thankfully), so now we get to see one of the main characters (Ellie) on the front.

I didn't hate the cover for Infinite, it looked nice. It's just the fact that they don't have the character who looks to be the main focus of the game (you are trying to save her).
I understand why people were upset with the Bioshock Infinite cover because of the cliched one man with a gun picture but lets all be honest here, it was the best damn picture of a guy with a gun ive ever seen lol. But at the end of the day its just a fucking cover right? The game will speak for itself
BinaryMind  +   736d ago
I thought girls with huge tits sold games though. And that's certainly an area not lacking in Elizabeth.
portal_2  +   737d ago
As a male if think box art is great. Anyone put off from purchasing it because of the box art is just ridiculous. Some people have got no protocol. I was hyped for a certain game a while ago, and wen I got it in my hands I wanted all the more:
http://n64media.ign.com/med...
IIC0mPLeXII  +   737d ago
Yet multiplayer is in the game.....
sjaakiejj  +   737d ago
You know nothing about it and already assume that multiplayer is in it for appeal?

It's perfectly possible that Naughty Dog just came up with an idea they thought worked really well in a multiplayer environment.
IIC0mPLeXII  +   737d ago
You played one tacked on mp you've played them all, im personally disappointed in Naughty Dog for falling into the trick bag. Better get ready to call in my pave low to take out the other team of Joel's in team deathmatch.
d0nT wOrrY  +   737d ago
So? you're complaining about something haven't even seen yet. *Sigh* Give it a chance at least! It's Naughty Dog after all. Plus, they've stated that the MP is being developed by another team at the SAME time. So please, just shut up already.
JKelloggs  +   737d ago
A completely separate team is working on MP. Also, we haven't saw any MP footage, or the final build of the game, so don't knock what you haven't tried.
sjaakiejj  +   737d ago
But that's exactly what I commented on - you're claiming Multiplayer is tacked on without ever having seen it, or even knowing what it's going to be like. There may very well be creative reasons for having Multiplayer in the Last of Us.
IIC0mPLeXII  +   737d ago
The game is clearly story driven with two main characters, herp derp, its going to be coop or some dumbass competitive mode. Just like how they are fucking dead space up.
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sjaakiejj  +   737d ago
That's nothing but speculation on your part. There's other forms of Multiplayer than generic co-op and competitive modes. Give the idea a chance, and if it does end up being generic multiplayer, then by all means complain about it.

But don't complain about something you know nothing about.
garos82  +   736d ago
Multiplayer on uncharted 2 and 3 were extremely fun.I have no idea why people have become so anti multiplayer in gaming.
The multiplayer co-op levels where for of the best I've had this gen as well as the 3vs3.
I'm glad naughty dog doesn't listen to morons like complex otherwise we might get a cluster f### of a game
SAE  +   737d ago
only kids will complain about a women or girl is a lead character and this game aint for kids ..
insomnium2  +   736d ago
I think the coverart could not be better. I find it perfect! I hope this is the final art for the cover. So atmospheric.
LOGICWINS  +   737d ago
"The Last of Us: Naughty Dog flat-out refused to put Ellie on back of the box art"

Sensationalist title. No one suggested/urged Naughty Dog to put Ellie on the back of the box art.
sourav93  +   737d ago
"No one suggested/urged Naughty Dog to put Ellie on the back of the box art."

Did you even read the article?
LOGICWINS  +   737d ago
Yes I did. They're lying. Don't you find it very coincidental that this pops up right after Bioshock Infinite's box art controversy.
sourav93  +   737d ago
@LOGICWINS Yes, it might actually just be a coincidence. Naughty Dog didn't comment on the Bioshock cover. The site this article is posted on, gamechup.com, made that link.
audioscience617  +   736d ago
I kinda agree with logic on this. People tend to over sell the level of oppression that they go through in life. Can you honestly name one game, book, tv show or movie where a woman on they cover hurt sales? I love ND but they are just pandering to women and self-righteous feminist men.
Ilovetheps4  +   736d ago
audioscience, we can't tell if putting a woman on the cover hurts sales, because we have no way to fairly compare a cover with a girl to a cover with a guy. Does it affect my purchase? No. But you never know, some people that buy games based on cover art might be affected. I don't see why they would, but it's possible.

But seriously Logic, read the article.

"'I know I’ve been in discussions where we’ve been asked to push Ellie to the back and everyone at Naughty Dog just flat-out refused,' Naughty Dog’s Neil Druckmann added."

That was straight out of the article.
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Blacklash93  +   736d ago
^ Pretty much.

Unless there's a reliable study about something like this, we can't tell for sure. Only assume (or pretend we know, evidently here). The only thing we can be absolutely spot-on about is our own behavior regarding this.

ND is not "pandering" to feminists. They told us there was some pressure to take Ellie off the front, explained why that happened, and that they refused to comply with it. That's it. No one is raging about prejudice here. You could say it basically amounts to business men getting paranoid about the image of their product.

Could the same pressure have influenced Bioshock Infinite's cover? A distict possibility since it existed here, but we can't know that for sure either.
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audioscience617  +   736d ago
“I feel like they don’t put women on the covers because they’re afraid that it won’t sell. It’s all gamers really know – and I don’t want to be sexist by any means – but I get the feeling, generally, that they think game’s won’t sell as well with a woman on the cover, compared to some badass dude on the front,” 

Everything she said was speculation based on an industry she has just become apart of and knows little about. There is zero reason for her to think this is the reason why bioshock's cover is what is other then to make this a issue of sexism.

“I agree with what Ashley said. I believe there’s a misconception that if you put a girl or a woman on the cover, the game will sell less. I know I’ve been in discussions where we’ve been asked to push Ellie to the back...”

This is the same thing all speculation. ND are acting like the self-righteous white knights i was talking about by agreeing with her made up reason. Also that "pressure" sounded more like a suggestion then some attempt to hide her for sales
3dtested  +   736d ago
From the wording it seems that what they meant was put Ellie in the *background* and Joel in the foreground, and not putting Ellie on the back of the *box*.
SageHonor  +   737d ago
Oh look.. Mika getting owned again lol. What a surprise

Anyways, It's cool that she's on the cover.
medziarz  +   736d ago
so then why was ND pressured to change the cover?
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SageHonor  +   736d ago
How the hell should I know?

I like the fact that she's on the cover which is why I said it was cool
chadboban  +   737d ago
Love Naughty Dog, love what I've seen of the game so far, love the box art as well. Would've bought it regardless, but it's good that they choose to emphasise characters they obviously worked really hard on making.
dennett316  +   737d ago
The box art of a game could feature Justin Bieber and Fred off Youtube having an intimate cuddle and I'd still buy it if I thought the game looked good.

This is 2012, we have significantly more than just the box art to go off when buying games nowadays - we have reviews, previews, videos, demos....the works. Anyone not buying a game because of box art is a colossal idiot.
THC CELL  +   737d ago
for god sake its a box are u going to walk round with it on ye back?
GenoZStriker  +   737d ago
O_O WTF! How did we go from Sony dying to Box Art complain/praising now. I must have stumbled in some alternate universe here. I need to get back home.
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Wintersun616  +   737d ago
This game is so DOOMED because it's not a guy holding a gun in the cover.

/s
Dlacy13g  +   737d ago
I really wish people would stop obsessing over box art. The game itself isn't being changed around because of box art. I just don't get why people get so bent out of shape over such a trivial thing.
e-p-ayeaH  +   737d ago
Being open minded about art is something i appreciate i rather see interesting unique covers for videogames (like a movie would do) to show everyone a little more what its really all about.
Dlacy13g  +   737d ago
I too enjoy good box art, but I don't get "angered" like some when they see box art that doesn't meet their expectation.
Smashbro29  +   737d ago
Does anyone REALLY care?
e-p-ayeaH  +   737d ago
That´s the point if someone goes into the videogame store they just might get interested to play this game w/ girlfriend because of the cover art alone if it looks generic they just turn their eyes on the next game many people dont spend their time watching gameplay on the internet.
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GraveLord  +   737d ago
I don't care if the girl is on the cover or not, the new box art they released is just too plain. It doesn't stand out.

Looking at the name of the game, and the box art, I WOULD HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THIS GAME IS ABOUT. I feel like if they just called this game Zombie Apocalypse it would sell much better and allow for a much cooler box art. Just my 2 cents.
BlaqMagiq24  +   736d ago
That's why you do your research. I wouldn't buy a game even if it has the greatest cover of all time. If someone buys a game just by looking at a cover and then doesn't like it in the end then that's on him/her. The internet is everywhere. It's not hard to look up a little info.
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CLOUD1983  +   737d ago
What bullsh1t oh mah god... for what males r u talking about 10-12 years old little kids? ~.~

TLOU is a mature games for ages of 16+ & I'm more than sure that the average age of the ppl who r going to buy this game will be over 20 years old, I don't think that males of that age think that way & that's bullsh1t.

I don't have any doubt that this game is going to sell over 5 million copies & the reason I believe that strongly is that Uncharted fans r also Naughty Dog fans, they trust the company & they know that ND create only quality products & nothing less.

So if all of u think for a moment that Uncharted 2 sold over 6 million copies u can assume more or less how many ppl r going to buy TLOU & TLOU imo will attract a lot of ppl that never play UC before because it is something very different more mature with a lot of realistic gore scenes & one theme that ppl is missing a lot the past years, "SURVIVAL".
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mt  +   737d ago
the boxart is nice, the game will sure be amazing.
onandonandon  +   737d ago
I hope GTAV has a good cover or I aint buying it, even though it's my most wanted game in years!!
Zachmo182  +   736d ago
Well sir, You win most stupid comment of the day!!
onandonandon  +   736d ago
Nah I think you're more deserving for not knowing I was clearly being sarcastic!!
Y_5150  +   736d ago
If you've seen past GTA covers then you'll know!
MariaHelFutura  +   736d ago
I caught the sarcasm.
onandonandon  +   736d ago
That's because you're not stupid:)
MelonSaurus  +   737d ago
This is the dumbest article I've seen in a long time.
Smurf1  +   737d ago
Why?
abc1233  +   737d ago
Heck, I don't care if they make the front cover pink and put unicorns and hearts on there, I'm still getting this!
Relientk77  +   737d ago
Naughty Dog is awesome
VonBraunschweigg  +   737d ago
Joel alone on the box would be dumb, the girl is one of the two main characters, she belongs on the cover period. And wasn't this gen not all about getting mom & dad into gaming, grandparents, women in general? This box art attracts both sexes looking for a special game, imo it alrady promises a good story with both of them on the cover. And people who only go for macho boxart will probably not like this game, they usually don't like running out of ammo, so no reason trying to sell it to them.
Max-Zorin  +   737d ago
Lmao people are now complaining about the box art for a game? This gen really is the worst of the worst.
bloodybutcher  +   736d ago
oh damn...i refuse to buy a game if it doesn't have a huge, square-jaw, muscly and sweaty guy on the cover! now THAT is sth we guys love...mhmmm...
Bathyj  +   736d ago
Is this actually an issue?
Seriously, would anyone really be turned off a game cos theres a girl/woman on the cover?
Shes one of the main characters in the game, why wouldnt she be there?
Im just a bit stunned anyone even thinks of this, never crossed my mind.
hkgamer  +   736d ago
Ellie seems more like the main character. the character we control is kind of a plain boring guy.
Soldierone  +   736d ago
Personally prefer a female protagonist anyway. Different perspective and something new. I've purchased games like WET because of it.

Yeah its easier to connect with a male character being a male, but I find female stories interesting as well. Doesn't make the story or cover feminine, it just makes it different.
Pillsbury1  +   736d ago
If you have a vita try gravity rush, awesome game.
rataranian  +   736d ago
I think they're just trying to kill the Ellen Page controversy still by not drawing any more attention to themselves.
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Pillsbury1  +   736d ago
The box art could have a donkey flying on balloons this will still be an amazing game.
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