Submitted by CaViE 1030d ago | opinion piece

Why I Admire Peter Molyneux

A somewhat brief opinion column on why Peter Molyneux is actually a man to look up to.

Quote: "For those who don’t know, and how can you not, Peter Molyneux recently gave an interview in which he broke into tears while discussing previous gaming projects and how they failed to meet the high expectations that he had created by talking them up prior to release.

The interview in this case was for a KickStarter project in which he hoped to revive one of his first games, for the current generation. But mostly everyone just remembered it as the Molyneux cry-fest.

Now at the risk of a few “Leave Peter Alone” parodies, I wish to spend today’s column, my dear readers, dearest of all the gamers in the world (especially those who don’t read these), explaining why I think the ‘Neux is not all that bad. In fact, I would go so far as to say I admire the man." (Casual games, Culture, Mobile, PC, PS3, Xbox 360)

dedicatedtogamers  +   1030d ago
Ultimately, I'm not interested in visionaries. I'm interested in good games. If a developer can't deliver that, then they're not worth my time. Molyneux is certainly a visionary, but his games fall short. It's as simple as that.

I admire a lot of developers. Warren Spector is one. Deus Ex, Ultima Underworld, and System Shock are all awesome games. However, Epic Mickey 1 and 2 are crappy games. I don't praise those games or give them a pass simply because I like Spector.

The same goes for Molyneux. I love Populous, B&W, and Fable: Lost Chapters. However, all his games since the first Fable have been crap. There's no reason to give the man a pass simply because he once made good games. If my steak is cooked terribly at my favorite restaurant, I'm not going to smile and say "oh well, at least the steak I had two weeks ago was yummy". And I especially won't say that if the chef is constantly bragging about how much better and how revolutionary today's steak is going to be.
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FriedGoat  +   1030d ago
I would give this man a pass if he made dungeon keeper 3! But as that is never going to happen, HELP MAKE THIS HAPPEN http://www.kickstarter.com/...
Caught this the other day, Dungeon keepers spiritual successor. this needs to happen.
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Irishguy95  +   1030d ago
I like his....passion. But that's it, the guy talks to much and simply can't deliver anymore. A good game is all I ask off him.
Griffin4871  +   1030d ago
I agree. He talks way too much shit. He should just be a motivational speaker for fanboys or something.
Septic  +   1030d ago
Whilst I disagree with you, + bubbles for a well said post. Also, I clicked disagree by mistake even though I agree with the manner in which you made your post (not that you might care :). )
Anon1974  +   1030d ago
In sports, we remember players for their best years, not their worst. We celebrate them and remember when they were at the top of their game and we don't expect all seasons to be equal and/or better. Yet in gaming the mentality is often one of "What have you done for me lately?"

Molyneux has been responsible for some of the best games I've ever played in the 90's, and for all their shortcomings, even Fable and Fable 2 were great games that were well received and two games I enjoyed immensely. The man created new gaming genres and even his later work, while it didn't live up to his seemingly inexhaustible enthusiasm for the medium he was working in was some pretty solid work. I work as a developer myself and when Peter speaks, I listen because even if his execution hasn't always been flawless, his vision for gaming is something that has always inspired me.

I'd rather more developers shot for the stars and miss. Molyneux's passion and love for the industry he's dedicated 30 years of his life to is something I will always admire as much as the classic games he was directly responsible for. It will be a sad day for me when Molyneux retires from the industry.
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dedicatedtogamers  +   1030d ago
There are some differences here.

Gamers SHOULD have the mentality of "what have you done for me lately?" We are paying customers. Would you prefer the alternative, where a franchise (even an entire genre) stagnates because people are NOT asking "what have you done for me?" and they keep buying the same game over and over? Mario, Zelda, and Call of Duty come to mind.

First of all, it's fine to admire sports star, and of course sports figures are going to have good seasons and bad seasons, but for how many of these stars do you buy $60 tickets each time to see them play? Exactly.

Molyneux is not a sports star. He's not an artist. First and foremost he is a developer who is supposed to develop games. If a game falls short, then it reflects badly on him. If several games over the course of several years fall short, it's not about Molyneux having a "bad season". It's about him failing to deliver a product that lives up to the expectations of the people who shelled out money.

Molyneux may be "shooting for the stars", but he is doing it in ways that are completely irrelevant in terms of making a good game.
Rupee  +   1030d ago
I admire his vision. At least he aims high and tries to make truly unique games. He's been failing lately but that happens. *shrugs* I hope he gets back in sync.
Bimkoblerutso  +   1030d ago
I friggin loved pretty much everything he did up until the second Fable, and I could even accept that he's had a bad patch this last decade or so, but the way he's carried himself during those off-years has inevitably lead me to believe that he's just an entitled little whiner that's too impressed by his own past accomplishments to pick himself up and simply deliver a great game that doesn't promise to change people's lives.

I have no respect for a man that obviously can't accept that he's not the industries very own Jesus Christ.
Septic  +   1030d ago
I think why many people admire Peter is because of the enormous passion he has for the industry and his projects, regardless of whether they meet expectations.

He is genuine in his fervour and love for the industry even if that passion doesn't translate itself into the quality people expect from him as a result of his own bold statements.

His recent emotional interview where he essentially cried because of his failings are a testament to that fact.

I admire the man for his honesty and love for the industry more so than the games he has produced. In a world where developers are merely content with spewing out generic rhetoric, Peter feels like he has to go above and beyond the call to really try and drive the industry forward.

In short, he is a visionary with arguably little success. I am not going to be one of the several keyboard warriors who direct hate or insults towards him simply because he failed to do what he set out to do. He really does try hard and for that, I respect him.
MastaPiff  +   1030d ago
Molyneux is garbage IMO. I've never played a game of his & don't feel like I missed anything. Spector is only slightly more relevant IMO also. Molyneux made Fable!?, don't care! Why is this on the PS3 page anyway? Hopefully he keeps his crap on PC & Xbox cuz I personally dodge his games like I dodge girls with herpes. Both are a lifetime disease and nothing good comes of it.

Sorry if I sound trollish, not necessarily my intent. I just get a bit peeved when he's held up as a "pioneer" like that alone should make me love his ideas today. Pioneer= old, & his new idea is to have us fund his old/tired ideas for the same type of game he's been making for 20+ years & still hasn't got it right! I obviously won't be sad if his kickstarter doesn't get what it needs. I think it would be a good reality check about what ppl think about his future of games. Ugh...

/end rant
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Septic  +   1030d ago
Well mate, you haven't played any of his games and you go on a rant about how his games should stay on the Xbox and PC then apologise for sounding trollish. It makes it very hard to take anything you have ranted about seriously.

I dont get why you're taking this so seriously when you clearly have no intention of ever playing his games. I suspect it has more to do with the platform his games are on though.

This kind of post and nonsensical and dare I say, very immature hatred is the kind of thing I was alluding to in my post above. Well, each to their own I guess.....
KingofGambling  +   1030d ago
Is there going to be an article "Why I admire David Cage."
DigitalRaptor  +   1030d ago
Peter is worthless as a game designer or even producer these days.

If you'd seen one of his latest GODUS kickstarter dev video, you can see how much of an airhead he really is.


He interviews one of his technical guys in the video about water flow features he wants in the game. The guy tells Peter that although it's a good idea, it's not really feasible in a technical sense that he aspires. What does Molyneux do? he brushes off the advice of a senior developer and insists his dream idea in his head goes ahead.

He then proceeds to observe static models on the monitors. and goes "how can you not be excited by this? " It's a wonder how he doesn't know the answer to that by now.

Peter's problem is that he absolutely lacks focus. He cannot translate his fantasies into something that works well. He comes out with ideas that sound great on paper, but he doesn't think about the technical challenges that will arise because of them, and then when given advice from technical developers, ignores it because it goes against his vision, which is not even well defined to begin with.

What is worse about this project is that he makes promises in his dev diaries with the developers there and puts the pressure on them individually to deliver the promises he makes on their behalf. Progress on GODUS is the latest in a long line of promises he makes and it's clearly not going to be as good as he continually hypes it up to be.

He's a desperate visionary at this stage, especially after the failure that was Curiosity. At least he has passion and tries hard to bring freshness to the industry, but I haven't enjoyed any one of his games as much as since Fable: The Lost Chapters.
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strigoi814  +   1030d ago
You admire him maybe you either:
1. Talk non sense
2. Look gay
3. old nerd
4. like cubes
5. You want pedo games...Milo?

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