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Tomb Raider and the comparison with Uncharted

Daniel Bisson, game producer at Crystal Dynamics, thinks Tomb Raider is better than Uncharted because of the personal development Lara Croft is going through in the game. This is something he thinks Nathan Drake is missing. The transition of Lara changing from an archaeologist into an adventurer, is very personal. "The first kill is really an important moment for Lara", Bisson told us.

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THC CELL1390d ago (Edited 1390d ago )

bwhahaha what ever i am not going to even watch this interview. good luck with that cd

i think it will be near impossible to beat uncharted story line.. also take in mind it was uncharted that got u inspired to start tomb raider again, god the women who is so mega she cant even swim

SonyNGP1390d ago (Edited 1390d ago )

The storyline in Uncharted games weren't anything special. But the way they presented it were.

Snookies121390d ago

Yeah, the story was run of the mill pretty much, but the characters and presentation were so top notch, not to mention the locations... That's what made Uncharted special.

theBAWSE1390d ago (Edited 1390d ago )

Yet every preview of the game that i have read states THEY HAVE COPIED UNCHARTEDS PLAY MECHANICS for this new tomb raider game

nothing to be ashamed of uncharted set the bar you copied...but don't now chat crap

Army_of_Darkness1390d ago

I thought we had some Nathan drake development in uncharted 3?! you know, when he started as a little thief in his younger days....Maybe cause the whole game wasn't based on that time period is why he thinks otherwise?! I don't know..

MikeMyers1390d ago

This won't go well here on n4g. It could be better and it might not be. At least I'm open for the idea unlike some.

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Jinkies1390d ago (Edited 1390d ago )

I know right, Tomb Raider is basicaly copying Uncharted. Look at the plane scene when it's rolling down the moutain and Lara is sliding down in front of it....it's basicaly something you would see in Uncharted, that, OMG SHE/HE NEARLY DIED event.

The regenerating health is another thing ticking me off about this, seriously it's about survival...the one thing it's been bigged up about and the one element you would think would be a major thing from the old TR games, medkits, arn't even used...she could collect them, go into her bag, wrap her self up with banages or take painkillers etc. Then theres the "No swimming" thing....<sigh>

I hate it when people try and defend this though and go "Well Uncharted copied Tomb Raider" when it didn't. The platforming you see in Tomb Raider is how your suppose to realisticly climb something, if another game does that it's because it's the ONLY realistic way to do that, it's not like cartoon platforming games when you can add am extra jump button, a flying gizmo or you can glide. Climbing like Lara and Nate is what your supposed to do in games like this, the only similarity is that they are both treasure hunters....

The other thing I'm not really digging in the new voice actress, she's no Emily Rose or Nolan North is she. Her voice sounds off a little.

Y_51501390d ago

I agree with ya! Tomb Raider never played right to me. But I love Uncharted.

Uncharted>Tomb Raider

Tomb Raider is just good now because of the character itself. Because she's an icon in gaming just like Sonic.

Jinkies1390d ago

I think thats why theres so many people sticking by Lara and try to defend the newer TR games (Legends/Underworld) despite how much they kind of sucked...because she's an icon and because the old TR games were amazing. It's the reason why you still get people sticking up for Resident Evil and Final Fantasy or how Zelda games always get high scores even if the newest game is a step back for the franchise...they can't let go of the past

Nostalgia at it's finest

KevPC1390d ago

Totally agree with you dude. The stories might be different but overall the way they present it, is exactly as Uncharted. The way she talks to herself, how she gets hurt all the time, is all the same. All the little things that made Uncharted an Uncharted game is copied by this game. They could of definitely have gone a different route instead of mimicking naughty dog's way of story telling.

I just wish they would admit that..instead of just saying, Uncharted also copied Tomb raider and our game is better cause its a little more open world and has a better story...

Imalwaysright1390d ago

WTF TR is copying Uncharted because of a plain sequence?

TR legend released well before Uncharted. Skip to the 3 min mark.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Then you start talking about regenerating heath as if ND Invented the concept.

The platforming in TR recent games and Uncharted was inspired by PoP.

Then below you deny that TR didnt inspired Uncharted even though the concept of both games is identical? Treasure hunting, shooting, platforming, swimming, solving puzzles... everything TR has Uncharted has, but Uncharted wasnt inspired by TR. You see a plain sequence and TR is suddendly copying Uncharted? Seriously are you high or something?

BTW fun fact: Amy Henning worked at Crystal Dynamics before joining ND.

Eyeco1390d ago (Edited 1390d ago )

Your 100% right ,it is Nostalgia because realistically critically and commercially the quality of the franchise has dropped significantly since what the 3rd game and how long ago was that like 15 years ago,

The Tomb Raider franchise relevance in the industry has wained in the last decade or more ,allot has changed in the industry ,the legacy of the games can be attributed to the mid late 90's not to the last decade, the franchise has gone from selling 8-10 million units mostly on one platform to barely 1-2 million across 3-5 platforms whats does that tell you ?

People are making it sound like the franchise is still this big multi million selling, guaranteed AAA series like Legend Of Zelda or Metal Gear Solid.
Can you honestly blame people for comparing it unfavourably to Uncharted ?

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tehpees31390d ago

And Tomb Raider's older games inspired Uncharted.

Jinkies1390d ago (Edited 1390d ago )

No...they didn't

Indiana Jones and other films were the main inspiration to Uncharted.

NaughtyDog had already done platforming with Crash and Jak, the only reason it looks like it inspired Uncharted is because they made Uncharted realistic compared to their past games. As I've said above there is NO OTHER WAY to do climbing/platforming in games like this so of course they are going to look similar but the point is Uncharted would of still exsisted without Tomb Raider.

MysticStrummer1390d ago

Tomb Raider's older games are almost nothing like Uncharted. I wanted this one to return to that old style, but it's clearly not.

dedicatedtogamers1390d ago

Why would "personal development" make one game better than the other? If the gameplay is worse, then the game is worse, plain and simple.

Irishguy951390d ago (Edited 1390d ago )

Don't be a fanbot

Tomb Raider has the potential to surpass Uncharted, Uncharted's plot is the one area it is actually lacking in. I doubt Tomb Raider will surpass it in some areas but the plot could easily get by it. Then there is the gameplay, which is a copy of Uncharted so....

Also, I find it funny that people can say "Bahaha as if" etc. Uncharted is not the greatest game ever, I don't see why it's so laughable that something can surpass it.

MysticStrummer1390d ago

This guy's quote is laughable for a couple of reasons. First, it's funny because Uncharted was called a Tomb Raider clone in the beginning, when it's only like Tomb Raider in a very superficial way in that they are both games about treasure hunting adventurers. Now, Tomb Raider is clearly trying to be like Uncharted. Secondly, what is this guy gonna say...? "Well, we tried but our game just doesn't measure up to Uncharted... : ( "? Personally, though I love Uncharted, as an overall game I prefer the old Tomb Raider style which has been missing for a long time in that series. I was hoping this new one would return to that style, but the more I see about it the less it looks like Tomb Raider.

SheenuTheLegend1389d ago

You say one more word against uncharted. i bet the drones will be launched to kill you.
You will never see that coming.
i m a fan of uncharted and i m proud to be.

Welshy1390d ago (Edited 1390d ago )

I seriously want this game less and less the more footage that comes out.

When i heard stuff like "survival", "personal", "emotional" etc describing the game i couldn't wait to see it, but even in this interview he talks about "emotional experiences" while Lara runs across an exploding bridge and struggle against the current, standing on a moving a moving train while being shot at by a chopper etc in the footage playing in the background.

They pretty much abandoned the dark, tight knit, personal side of this game and put Lara into the Nathan Drake/Uncharted template.

Sure, Uncharted has been a massive highlight this gen that i'll play for years to come, but i was interested in Tomb Raider to get AWAY from that and experience the flip side of a Nathan Drake-esque scenarion.

God dammit CD, i want to like your game so much and enjoy Lara once more, but your throwing out all the stuff that made this reboot interesting!

Awesome_Gamer1389d ago

Fact: Uncharted > Tomb Raider

Uncharted is ten times the series Tomb Raider ever will be, people only have high hopes for this game because Lara is a gaming icon now, but it will be medicore just like the the last two, stop defending franchises that lost it's way like Resident Evil, Final Fantasy and Tomb Raider. Jesus, Nostalgia at it's finest. :/

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CaptainPunch1390d ago

I got a chance to play the new Tomb Raider, it's a great game from what I've played so far. But I have to say Uncharted is better. Also "Better than" is a pretty bold statement. You better back it up when the game comes out.

AngelicIceDiamond1390d ago

Really? How is the new Tomb Raider Btw. I haven't gotten the chance to play it yet...

Sketchy_Galore1390d ago

I felt like this game could go either way but from the hands on previews I've read so far I expect it to be especially disappointing. I was reminded of the previews for the first Assassin's creed in which you could feel the writer trying to give it the benefit of the doubt because its a game they were looking forward to but trying to come to terms with the fact that it just wasn't enjoyable. Unless something major has changed since the previews I've read or changes before release I'm expecting quite poor reviews.

chukamachine1390d ago

I love the original tombraider games.

I love the uncharte games, and tbh, they are nothing alike.

Obviously I haven't played the latest, but I hope it has it's own thing going on.

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