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Submitted by uneasiest 683d ago | opinion piece

Can the PS4 bring Sony back to console dominance?

OmniGamer Writes "Just think about it, when the Sony PS1 came out, there were no competition. When the PS2 came out it was a flawless victory, so why has the PS3 not dominate the console market this generation? OK let’s hear it, blame the Xbox 360 and the Wii, nope that’s no excuse. Sony pedigree and their fan base, no, that runs deeper than the Nile River. All competition should have been destroyed, but why then is the Xbox 360 outselling the PS3 in the USA for 23 straight months? And please don't tell me; well the PS3 beats the Xbox 360 in the other territories, Sony should be winning in all territories period." (Next-Gen, PS3)

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NYC_Gamer  +   683d ago | Well said
I'm buying the PS4 regardless.I don't care about what place the console is in sales wise.
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MariaHelFutura  +   683d ago
I'm buying all of them. I don't care where any of them place. Playstation owns all of my favorite developers, so their systems are always my most anticipated/favorites.
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piroh  +   683d ago
i don´t care what place or price or name, if it´s from Sony i want it because of Gran Turismo, Killzone, God of War, Hot shot golf/tennis, Motorstorm, LittleBigPlanet, Tekken, Naughty dog games, Move games, Level5 games, and more

on topic, PS3 sold 70 million units, PSP sold 75 million units, to me it doesn´t seems like disappointment. for comparison old Xbox sold 25 million units, GameCube sold 20 million units
ZombieNinjaPanda  +   683d ago
@Piroh

How are you comparing the Ps2/gamecube/xbox era to the Ps3/360/wii era??
Cam977  +   683d ago
I agree with the part you said about developers.
BattleAxe  +   682d ago
I'll probably buy a PS4 since I've never been let down by the Playstation brand. I really don't understand the people who say that they're going to buy all of the systems...do they really have that much time on their hands? Between PC and PS3, I've got a pretty large backlog of games as it is.
MariaHelFutura  +   682d ago
@BattleAxe
I don't like missing any games that I want to play. Nintendo has a bunch, Sony has the my favorites, Microsoft always has a few that I'm interested in and I don't game on PC. For example my 360 was basically only used to play... Mass Effect 1, Oblivion (when it released), Lost Oddessy, Tales Of Vesperia, Viva Pinata, Alan Wake, SC:Conviction, The Witcher 2, The Orange Box and a few others. I could care less about Gears. Halo and Forza. But, it IMO was well worth owing a 360 for. I can also see how some wouldn't or couldn't afford to. I just want to and can, so I do.
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MikeMyers  +   682d ago
If Sony had dominated like they had the two previous generations it would have forced the hand for 3rd party developers and they would have used the PS3 as the lead platform. That didn't happen which is why some games would actually play worse or got left behind (Bethesda for example and the issues they are having with DLC).

This is why Sony is now forced to adapt and create hardware developers want. Sony no longer controls the market and cannot dictate their systems being the lead platform. Sony needs to do away with proprietary hardware that only really benefits Sony.

And before anyone chimes in suggesting the developers need to understand better that's not really the result we want. Microsoft proved with the original Xbox they can benefit from taking an extra year, not costing the consumer any extra money, all while not frustrating the game programmers and having a more powerful system that didn't suffer from poor ports (only very few games did like MGS).

We also don't need total dominance. What happened last time? If I remember correctly Playstation fans were handed a $600 console. It was the stiffer competition that forced the price down.
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SilentNegotiator  +   682d ago
I can't believe so many people have decided that they are/aren't getting some or all of the consoles that we know absolutely nothing about.
Consoldtobots  +   682d ago
whats there to know??

that MS will keep charging for LIVE? that's reason enough for some not to buy their console. With the price of everything today the last thing some of us want is to pay to be able to enjoy the other half of the games we buy.
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SonyWarrior  +   682d ago
im buying a ps4 due to fact of arrownasticnes and space simplisity
nukeitall  +   682d ago
@Consoldtobots:

"that MS will keep charging for LIVE? that's reason enough for some not to buy their console."

For some that is a strong incentive to buy MS console due to the frequent quality updates. So far, 3 major dashboard updates while the competition since inception finally only got their online store updated.

Which each service there is a level of expectation depending on what you paid for it. I for one like having choices and competition. Both free and premium service is ideal as it is.
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Lvl_up_gamer  +   682d ago
@ Consoldtobots

You make it sound like MS just suddenly added XBL last week.

Paying for XBL was here day 1 at the launch of the Xbxo 360 yet the Xbox 360 still managed to sell 70+ million. So considering the fist xbox sold 24 million and the 360 sold 54 million MORE WITH XBL a paid subscription day 1 I would say you are dead wrong.

XBL is well known to be a quality product in which those who want and enjoy it's features are willing to pay for them.
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MariaHelFutura  +   683d ago
Double post.
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NukaCola  +   683d ago | Well said
Agreed. The reason I have stuck to Playstation for almost 17 year now, is that they always, and I mean ALWAYS deliver some of the most innovating and rewarding gaming experiences around. From the early days of Oddworld and Crash and FF VII to the amazing God of War, Ico/Sotc, to Uncharted and Flower and Journey. I am never disappointed.
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rezzah  +   683d ago
Yea, I've been gaming on playstations since i was like 6.
UnSelf  +   683d ago
Stopped at "there was no competition."

So the Saturn and 64 were figments of our imaginations everybody
zebramocha  +   683d ago
I think he means as to stop the success of the psx.
doogiebear  +   683d ago
Saturn and 64 combined had nothing on ps1. It was the better console to develop for, had infinitely more games, and made games mainstream without betraying the hardcore audience. CD's made it cheap, bigger games, and better sound. Saturn had cd's too, but the hardware was clunky to develop on. N64 doomed itself with cartridges, a wierd (yet innovative) controller, and low polygon count. Plus lack of 3rd party support (ps1 had all tekken games, final fantasy, jrpg's, all types of variety).

Ps1 was the greatest system of our modern times.
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insomnium2  +   683d ago
Ummm..... there will never be a dominance like that ever again if you ask me. Not that that is anything to worry about for Sony. They will have another 100+ million seller in their hands with PS3 so why should they care if the market expands to new territorys and Wii gets a 100 million seller with Wii from casuals during the same gen?

I mean isnt it obvious that anyone declaring doom on Sony due to lost market share is in it for s*its and giggles or fanboyism? I mean THAT*S the best they can do? Pfft gtfo...LOL!
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wishingW3L  +   683d ago
the Wii? If it weren't for the lack of 3rd party support I bet the Wii Would have sold like 200m consoles but now it will not even going to surpass the PS2.
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Outside_ofthe_Box  +   682d ago
***"there will never be a dominance like that ever again"***

***"They will have another 100+ million seller in their hands with PS3 so why should they care if the market expands to new territorys and Wii gets a 100 million seller with Wii from casuals during the same gen?"***

***"I mean isnt it obvious that anyone declaring doom on Sony due to lost market share is in it for s*its and giggles or fanboyism?"***

lol I can't believe there is actually someone who views things this way. People think that market share is all that matters. Like you said, why should one care if your competitors sold a butt load of consoles when you yourself have sold a butt load as well? This whole 1st, 2nd, 3rd place nonsense is definitely just to fuel the console wars.
showtimefolks  +   683d ago
for next gen i am only buying a ps4, its not that i don't want other consoles but life is so busy with work and kids its hard for me to have time for one console right now

ms has shown me nothing to say next xbox will be any better because we have had the same exclusives of halo,gears and fable has been replaced by forza. Ms sees kinect and a casual market and forgot about us the core gamers. instead of paying for exclusive dlc how about invest that money into smaller development teams to work on xblive game. also when ps4 gets cross game chat and psn is still free than what would be the reason for MS to charge for xblive?

wii-u well all i will say is this i am so excited to play nintendo's games in HD finally. but 3rd party support will be the same story like all nintendo consoles since NES

sony-ps4, been with ps brand since ps1 and sony hasn't let me down so i trust they will deliver once again. i hope this time ps4/next xbox launches at the same time just to see which brand is actually stronger. with 12 development studios along with few 2nd party studios like ready at dawn,QD and insomniac sony if not else knows how to deliver excellent exclusives.

so while all 3 have pros and oons for me its about time and history with ps brand.

i believe next gen race will be between xbox and ps because i don't think either company is worried about nintendo. out of all 3 nintendo has the most to prove
calis  +   682d ago
Same boat here. Too much time spent elsewhere I don't have the time for all 3 so it will be PS4...unless Sony does something really wrong with it.
Nes_Daze  +   682d ago
Agreed,based on some of the comments I see here, how the hell do people have time for PS3, Xbox, Wii, and PC??
JAPS3KHLBP14  +   683d ago
Yes I mostly agree with that but if sony next console is a disaster, you should care then because that could be a factor in sony not producing anymore consoles in the future. However I believe sony can have a more successful console next generation because of their past mistakes that have learned from and plus Sony has been VERY VERY successful in the past. I would hate for Sony to EVER leave the console market, I love Playstation because i believe it produces the best exclusives and a lot of them. I buy game consoles to play good games, not to try some gimmick motion control bull shit, Game pad all the way!
doogiebear  +   683d ago
Long live Sony! I'm only getting PS4 and the newly announced Valve console. To hell with Microsoft and Nintendo. Their practices suck, are reminiscent of Apple's shady ways, and only cater to mindless casuals.

Nintendo and M$ WILL NOT be getting my money again anytime soon.
ThanatosDMC  +   683d ago
I'm hoping that the PS4 will be able to handle the awesomeness of Planetside 2 on high settings and keep the 2000 player count per continent.
VonBraunschweigg  +   683d ago
No, you want a sequel to MAG on PS4:)

But seriously, I haven't played Planetside 1 or 2 but the massive scale I've seen in the video's is something I can appreciate a lot. I hadn't thought of it but yeah, it would be awesome to see Planetside 2 on PS4. After MAG, why not? It's out now, free to play, they still have lots of time to make it work before the PS4 is out.

Great idea. Send them a, no just tell-em. We want Planetside on Playstation.
ThanatosDMC  +   682d ago
Planetside 2 is what MAG 2 should be... im sold on Planetside 2. No matter how much i loved MAG. Planetside 2 beats it except the proximity chat, group chat, and platoon chat. It's just not as stable as MAG and you have to press a button.

http://youtu.be/6DT-PWfIQOE
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SnotyTheRocket  +   682d ago
I'm also entirely sure Sony is winning on the console department, well, games wise anyway.
All I need is ps4 and my steam box.

*turn on ps4 signs in to psn with psn name.*

*turns on steam box signs in to steam with psn name*

WIN!!!!
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INehalemEXI  +   682d ago
ps4 ohh goody !
colonel179  +   682d ago
I always base my purchase of consoles on the games. I always buy Nintendo consoles because I like Mario, Zelda, etc.. but for Xbox and PlayStation, I choose the one that have the games I want to play. I don't care if they only sell one console in their lifetime, as long as i am happy with it.

Last gen I loved the Xbox, that I exchanged my gamecube for it (when my first one broke), I didn't even touch the PS2 at all. Then everything changed when the PS3 was announced, and it had a lot of games I was interested in. I still wanted an Xbox 360, but a friend got one at launch, and when I played it, it confirmed that I preferred to wait for the PS3 instead, and I have been really happy with it since then.

With the new consoles, it will be the same. I'll check which one has more games I am interested in and it will be the one I'll buy. Then I will wait for a Mario or Zelda or Metroid, etc to be announced to buy the Wii U (with Pikmin 3 by then)
Jason143  +   682d ago
as will any true gamer. Honestly without playing fan boy and having owned all systems ps3 had the most amazing jaw dropping exclusives this gen. But like I said a true gamer will own all lol We are dedicated what can I say
TAURUS-555  +   682d ago
i trust in the sony brand no matter what, theyre the best.
i got PS1, PS2, PS3 and the PS4 will be the best console by far, no doubt about it.
Riderz1337  +   683d ago
Can't really say if it will bring them back to dominance since we know literally nothing about it (nothing has been confirmed). However, seeing as they have a large variety of first party publishers really makes me want to buy it day 1. Also I hope they bring something like PS Plus down the line. I know it can't come day 1 seeing as they would have no games to give out but I can wait for it. Unless the PS4 will have backwards compatibility in which you can get free PS3 games on it. That would be awesome and would mean a definite PS4 day 1 buy for me.
Larry L  +   683d ago
I'm sure Plus will still be there for launch on PS4. I obviously doubt PS4 content day 1 (but who knows, Sony is pretty generous), but Plus will still be getting PS3 and PSN content for sure. PSN (or SEN if you prefer) is now well established, it's not going to be torn down and started anwe for PS4. It's going to be the same PSN, same IDs and all that. So I'm sure (unless Sony hardware designers are stupid), all Digital PS3 content will work on PS4.

Hopefully that's the case for both gamers and Sony. Because that's a major incentive for ALOT of current PS3 owners to move on to PS4 as soon as they can. If 100% of their current digital "stuff" works (physical too, but I'm talking about Plus here) AND you have the benefit of being able to play the "new stuff" as well, there's no reason [not] to get a PS4 and the hardware generation will start off with a bang and the install base will build more quickly.
JoelJD14  +   683d ago
Maybe yes, maybe no.

Door is wide open for anybody.
LOL_WUT  +   683d ago
It all depends on the price point and when they plan to release it. Hopefully they learned their lesson this gen.

Omni gamer.com? ;)
DEATHSTROKE-cro-  +   683d ago
omni gamer will be an omni gamer when omni launches next year ;-)

btw. everyone was saying how PSP2 will cost like 400-450$ but they announced it for 250-299$.
they learned their lesson from PS3 and PS4 (Omni)
won't cost 600$. I would say 399$.
Hanso  +   683d ago
yeah i too think its gonna be 399!
prototypeknuckles  +   683d ago
well for me no matter what im getting one but it wont be day one because im looking for failure rate, but regardless i will get a ps4, now will it bring back dominace, it all depends on how consumers feel about the price.
ABizzel1  +   683d ago
I agree on not getting Day 1, but not for Failure Rate. Day 1 buyers generally have a great launch, but it's hard to keep the momentum up after the launch since there's literally no back catalog to play (besides last gen).

It truly depends on what's offered Day 1, and the difference between current-gen and next-gen games.
Pillsbury1  +   683d ago
Same for me I will wait until 2nd iteration of ps4 because of the lower failur rate, excited for the future. Transparent amoled? Excited.
stone_cold  +   683d ago
ps4 will dominate in the future ,
like ps3 dominate now !
KMCROC  +   683d ago
Nationalist mentality for me , beside if Japanese can have that outlook or choice then why can't I. that why I have replaced my TV to a vizio, my PC to a dell. my mobile to a windows 8 phone, yes be it that they were manufactured in country where Labor is cheap & foreign still an American product by design & name, but eventually that will all change with more goods coming back to be manufactured here in USA .
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majiebeast  +   683d ago | Funny
So you you bought inferior products? AMURIKA FUCK YEAH!
KMCROC  +   683d ago
( Love how one's out look is disagreed a upon cause it's different than others)

No I buy these product to help encourage friends & family to do like wise so that way a trend is started of trying to bring our country back to a position of manufacturing dominance instead of a sad country that only imports someone else inferior product & while also helping companies realize that the best works are right here in their home country not overseas.So that way in not far distance future the words made in the USA means something again.

@ronin4life this will also answer your question or comment seeing as how this bubble system does not allow me to continue to comment.
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ronin4life  +   683d ago
I don't quite get what you are saying, but if you mean Japanese brand loyalty towards Sony there is really not that much, and it is shrinking by the day...

They do love their Playstation though, but no where near like they love their Nintendo... and that's really all there is since most devs won't touch the regional corpse that is xbox.

Otherwise, they aren't completely turned off to non Japanese things. They love their Apple, a big deal as near smart level phones existed in Japan before the first Iphone was even made.
SugarSoSweet  +   682d ago
Japanese people aren't supporting American Game Consoles so why should Americans support their consoles I think that's what he's trying to say and he is right
SandwichHammock  +   683d ago
Wow. That's like people that buy "American" cars because they don't want to give money to foreign (ie. Japanese) car manufacturers.

Here is a bit of info for you and I apologize for sounding blunt as I do not mean to offend. But... These Japanese companies that you are avoiding are paying much more into your USA! by ways of job creation (US) and paying their taxes. As opposed to your chosen born in the USA companies that outsource more and more, kill jobs,chase after tax loopholes, and get tax payer bailouts.

Cheers.
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BlmThug  +   683d ago
Most ignorant buffoon on N4G :L still thinking America is the center of the earth *sigh*
TheDivine  +   682d ago
If you live in the US then yes it is. Why would people of China want to support the US over their own nation? Why would Japan buy US goods over their own? Why is supporting local companies within your own nation frowned upon here? Thats a good thing unless your one of those people who stomps down old women on black friday to save 50 bucks off 400 and doesnt care if a factory in Michigan had to close because of that item.

Buying American goods (if your from here obviously) is something to be proud of. It creates jobs, creates capital, more workers spending money locally its just better all around. I applaud KMCROC for supporting our own.
Hicken  +   682d ago
Never say anything like this again. You make the rest of us Americans look bad enough as it is.

You embarrass us. Not that you're competent enough to even understand that.
SonyStyled  +   683d ago
based on his comments, i dont think this guys played killzone before
Cocozero  +   683d ago
Unlikely the only reason the PS1/PS2 dominated was because of the third party exclusives such as FF, MGS, GTA, Tekken, DMC, RE etc.

Now that they are all multi-platform the PS brand has a high chance of being in 3rd place for a second time.
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Rainstorm81  +   683d ago
Just to play Devils advocate..... most of those franchises wouldnt be household names without the PS platforms....not to mention most of those franchises failed to recreate the quality or success they had when they were exclusive
Ck1x  +   682d ago
Probably so, but the biggest games from this generation have been brand new Multiplat titles for PS3 & 360.
Larry L  +   682d ago
Actually Ck, the biggest sellers this generation, at least at retail, have been the old stand-bys. CoD, GTA, Gran Turismo, Halo, Metal Gear Solid, Elder Scrolls, Street Fighter, FF, Mario. Sure there have been a couple/few stand-out new IPs like AC and Mass Effect that had really stellar sales, but for the most part, the biggest sellers this gen were by IPs that have been with us for a while.
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AngelicIceDiamond  +   683d ago
It's too early to tell but Sony's gameplan going into next gen should be much different then this gen.

The console being cheaper, more advertising, big time AAA exclusive games like Uncharted 4, Gran Turismo 6, God Of War 4 Killzone 4 at launch.

Then, the following year Sony releases Sucker Punch new Ip, The Last Of Us 2, Quantic dreams new ip, a new Little big planet title.

WOW Sony would kill the competition if they released those games in a years time, Here hoping.

EDIT: In years time after/whenever the PS4 get released is what I'm saying not literally in a years time from now.
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rezzah  +   683d ago
Sony had some mistakes with the PS3 that gave them a slow start. I assume they learnt from what causes these issues and figured how to avoid them with the PS4.

They are going to hit hard with exclusives from the very beginning, this is what i think.
darkride66  +   683d ago
I'm always confused by this talk of a slow start. When the PS2 was released, in it's first year and a half on the market it managed 10 million. In the PS3's first six quarters it managed 12.6 million despite the high price point. The 360 moved 10.9 million in it's first 6 quarters on the market. There was no slow start for the PS3. That's a myth and I have no idea why people still propagate that myth today despite the facts being readily available. No offence intended.

What happened differently between the PS2 and the PS3 was just over a year and a half into the PS2's lifecycle in the US it received a price cut down below the magic $200 mark during a period of strong economic conditions and received a boost from hotly anticipated games that sky-rocketed sales. One and a half years into the PS3's lifecycle, it received a cheaper, 40GB version that still cost $400 and then the world was hit with the biggest economic downturn in a generation.

And yet even being far and away the most expensive console on the market and during hard times that still persist today, the PS3 still managed to hit 70 million consoles a year sooner then it's closest competition and closing a gap that was one almost 9 million consoles between the two. And it's the only console currently not suffering from huge sales declines.

I can't believe the price differences and the economic conditions that each faced doesn't even warrant a mention. While not the whole story, it's a huge piece of the puzzle when you look at the history of the Playstation brand, and one this article either wasn't aware of or completely glossed over in favor of "Put out a new Gran Turismo sooner and make Killzone the bestest next gen."
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lodossrage  +   683d ago
The first sentence of this opinion piece is very wrong
"Just think about it, when the Sony PS1 came out, there were no competition"

That's a lie, because the Sega Saturn came out a few days before the PS1
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shaunmoynihan  +   682d ago
It may have released before the PS2....but it was anything but competition.
lodossrage  +   682d ago
Do you even know what you're talking about?
The Dreamcast was the competitor for the PS2. Not the Saturn.

And just because the PS1 beat the Saturn doesn't mean the Saturn wasn't competition. It just means the Saturn lost. Plain and Simple.
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Eyeco  +   682d ago
And if you really wanna go into it , the 3DO , Atari Jaguar , PC-FX, FM Towns Marty, Amiga CD32 all part of the 5th generation like the PS1 launched before it,

when you look at how crowded the console market was in the early-mid 90's it's a miracle a new console brand like the playstation ever became such a huge phenomenal success, especially when it wasn't the 1st of its generation
microgenius  +   683d ago
make it user and developer friendly and it will destroy the competition
PS brand is big enough to sell neck and neck with 100-200$
more than competitor
well if the price would be the same it will crush Xbox except may be in the USA
they are really loyal to xbox brand
Aloren  +   682d ago
This is not 2005 anymore... if this generation proved anything, it's that while the playstation brand is still a powerful one, wii and xbox are too.
PS3 and 360 are still neck to neck, while the PS3 is not much more expensive and the 360 offers less (like no Bluray).

If it doesn't sell much more with same price now, why would it next year ?

Also, consoles should sell based on their own merit, not based on their name.
Cupid_Viper_3  +   682d ago
@ Aloren

"If it doesn't sell much more with same price now, why would it next year ?"

Maybe you should get down with the facts a little bit. The PS3 has sold more in less time then the 360 has, 70 million in 6 years while being more expensive.

So it's not hard to see why the PS3 has overtaken the xbox 360 in total units sold. And lets not forget the high defective rates of earlier models of the xbox 360 which caused a lot of people to rebuy it.
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wishingW3L  +   683d ago
It will be hard. America is the biggest video game market in the world and they seem to be very obsessed with the Xbox brand. America is a market that the only way to crack it is by being cool, by becoming part of the pop culture, and how do you achieve that? Through tons of advertising.
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Qrphe  +   683d ago
It's not impossible, to put it into perspective:

Back in 2005
"Can the 360 put Microsoft on the lead in America?"
"It will be hard. The world is completely dominated by Sony and the PS2 plus the PS3 is coming out a year later."
Cryptcuzz  +   683d ago
I believe they have a good chance at being numero uno again with the PS4, since they have a lot of great first party and second party developers right off the bat to create awesome games again next gen.

As long as they release a system with a size-able difference in terms of graphics with new and unique features not found in previous generations at reasonable prices, then it will be a winner regardless.

Implement how their online system is now but in a next gen way with PS Plus and Gaikai and I'd consider that a win as well.

I look forward to what Sony has in store for the PS4. Whatever they have planned, I am sure gamers alike will be excited.
hardcorehippiez  +   683d ago
by the time this gen is over they are going to be number 1 again but not by as big of a margin as they were before but they will still go on to sell 100,000.000 + which is damn impressive considering they released a year + later and the smear campaign that was set against them in my opinion. The ps4 if released at the same time and a comparitive price with the xbox Wii u will totally smash the competition
Qrphe  +   683d ago
It's up on the air. Microsoft came out on top on the US against a company that had the best-selling console of all time while only releasing a next-gen for a 30-million-units-selling brand (Xbox). Nintendo sold 100 million units after selling only 20 a gen before and that was unexpected also.

Sony could come back on top, stay where it is, or just fail and leave the industry, who knows.
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megamanX2  +   683d ago
"Can the PS4 bring Sony back to console dominance?"

survey says.....no

"Sony could come back on top, stay where it is, or just fail and leave the industry, who knows."

i say fail and leave the industry, because they are the reason its in ruins.
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saint_seya  +   683d ago
U have any idea of something? One thing is to be a fanboy, another thing thing is been is this kind of nonsense.. dude even if u hate sony #like u proved# they are needed like it is nintendo and microsoft.. without competition u think u would see any progress in game industry?
saint_seya  +   683d ago
U have any idea of something? One thing is to be a fanboy, another thing is this kind of nonsense.. dude even if u hate sony #like u proved# they are needed like is nintendo and microsoft.. without competition u think u would see any progress in game industry?
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MariaHelFutura  +   683d ago
"i say fail and leave the industry, because they are the reason its in ruins."

Funny, I would say the EXACT opposite.

Please stay and thrive in this industry, because they are the reason it is not in ruins.
MysticStrummer  +   683d ago
Yeah. Pushing new tech and new IPs is horrible for the industry. ffs

As for the OP, the Wii showed anything can happen, so yes the PS4 can do that but it obviously remains to be seen. We not only have to wait and see how the next MS and Sony consoles turn out, we have to wait and see what people want at the time and then see how all that equates to sales.

Sony has my business until they do something to lose it though, and nothing about their strategy from PS1 to PS2 to PS3 makes me think they'll lose it with PS4.
ZBlacktt  +   683d ago
No clue at all... you must be trolling. Like they had some 50% fail rate when they first came out with the PS3 huh?

Like they don't already have the best selling game console ever made already huh? Like they don't already have the second best selling game console already huh?

Like the consoles is not the only one who's exclusive games win Game of the Year awards. Otherwise it's a multi platform game.

Like it wasn't the first and only console to come out with Blu-ray. It's not the Industry leader when it comes to NetFlix viewing.
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dafegamer  +   682d ago
I say you're blatantly wrong cause Sony is the only company who provides quality first party titles, even this late in its console life.Puppeteer, The last of Us, GOW Ascension, Sly Cooper 4, Beyond:Two Souls etc.
Sony is always pushing new IP's and satisfying its fanbase. Microsoft on the other Hand has abandoned its core fanbase years ago. They only care about Kinect titles and 3 years period of releasing Halo,Forza and Gears of War. They provide nothing new to the table, not even trying to release at least new IPs, like Sony does
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BlaqMagiq24  +   682d ago
Please change your username you give mega man a bad name and you need to leave the industry
Young_ART  +   683d ago
the price point and the fact that developing games for it was difficult (according to some devs), really made it hard for the ps3 to get going early on.

plus the online network was so immature back then. (the PSN has come a LONG way....)

There are many factors as to why the ps3 didn't "dominate". But they didn't give a good impression early on with that price point.
Gimmemorebubblez  +   683d ago
I wonder how Valve will play into this with their "console".
Belking  +   683d ago
I don't think so. Sony's dominance is over. The market is split now with MS and Nintendo doing so well in the U.S. and other regions. Not to mention, sony isn't in the best financial position right now but they will do fine. MS has sold close to 73 million and some of those are sure to pick up the next gen xbox also. As for me, I will be getting both ps4 and the next xbox. It will be the xbox first though because they are sure to be the first one's out the gate.No doubt about that.
Sizzon  +   683d ago
PS3 is at 70 million units sold worldwide.
ZBlacktt  +   683d ago
Plus look at the fact that MS had a full year head start and the console had a full worldwide launch at the time, Hence why it was rushed and had the redlight issue for over a year. Where Sony did NOT have a worldwide day one launch like MS did with the XBox. As we all know, the PS3 came out in late 2006 in the US and Japan. All of Europe would not see the console until 2007. Yet it still caught up..... shocking I know.

Don't look for knowledgeable types of posts here. Just read the site for the news stories that come up.
Belking  +   683d ago
Microsoft is approaching 73 million worldwide. November probably has put them over that now. After the holidays they will sure to be past 73 million. It doesn't matter anymore. They have stolen a considerable amount of market share here in the U.S. Sony won't be able to recover that this gen. They won't catch ms in the U.S. nor the Nintendo back in Japan. That goes for vita too.
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DEATHSTROKE-cro-  +   683d ago
@Belking

people can change their minds.
just like people saw how microsoft doesn't give a shit about making new IP's this gen.
PS+ increased 250% in subscribers during black friday
Godmars290  +   683d ago
Nothing is ever going to have the level of dominance the PS1 and PS2 had in consoles.
INehalemEXI  +   682d ago
ps3 still dominating ...I mean its 1, 2 and 3 combined. I plays it all.
Godmars290  +   682d ago
I think PS3 is still considered to be in 3rd, even though the difference is only a few million as opposed to the ten of millions gap between the first Xbox and PS2.

Mind you when Xbox1 was 2nd, the NGC 3rd and going on 50 million and more behind, no one talked about them being "doomed."
sak500  +   683d ago
LOL let's see them lie again for the super duper next console. I'll again skip Pstation next gen as i did this gen. All the best 3rd party titles were on 360 plus huge exclusive library, online, DLC etc.
youndamie  +   683d ago
Lmao even if you own a Xbox you have till admit Sony took care of its gamers this gen as they have before with far more exclusives. Mircosoft went far to casual in the last two years.
punisher99  +   683d ago
@sak500:
Exactly who lied about what?? And those same "best 3rd party titles" were also on PC and PS3.
DEATHSTROKE-cro-  +   683d ago
LOL
3rd party games were on PC and PS3 and playstation version had exclusive content for some games.
online ? yeah, pay 60$ so you can be online haha...
while you get like 15 AAA free games with PS+
and all that money Microsoft gets from XboxLive,
they put it in the pocket. they don't invest that
money in new games, new IP's, creative IP's.
which Sony does.
DLC is also on PC and PS3 -___-
huge exclusive library ?
Xbox fanboys are just stupid. what games ?
gears, halo, forza XD

Uncharted, God Of War, Last Of Us,inFamous, Beyond,
Motorstorm, Warhawk/Starhawk, Killzone, Resistance,
MGS4,Gran Turismo,
Heavenly Sword,Heavy Rain,LBP,MAG,Socom,Folklore,
Valkyria Chronicles,Battle Royale, Ratchet &
Clank,Sly Cooper,Twisted Metal,Wipeout,Demon's
Souls,Dust 514,PSN exclusive games like Flow/Flower
/Journey/Dead Nation,/Echochrome/Rain

I'll be buying PS4 because of free online with PS+,
best controller, powerful console, simple menu,
most exclusive games from all consoles, new IP'S,
different and creative IP's, low failure rate
(RROD), we heard rumors that you will be able to
download something while playing a game,
Killzone/Uncharted/God Of War/Last Of Us already
look better than anything on Xbox and will look
amazing on PS4...
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MariaHelFutura  +   683d ago
Can anyone even take a gamer seriously who "skipped" having a PS3 this gen? Sad to say, you have missed alot of great games. Hopefully one day you snap out of the trance you're in and get to enjoy them for the great games they are.
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dafegamer  +   682d ago
"All the best 3rd party titles were on 360 plus huge exclusive library"
Dont you mean huge library of kinect games?
goldwyncq  +   683d ago
Regardless of sales, for me PS3 is the best console this gen.
Hanso  +   682d ago
agree when i will hold the ps4 in my hands i will think back a moment and remember all these awesome memories of the ps3 exclusives that i played then i look at my ps 4 and ill say Round 4 START! :D
punisher99  +   683d ago
"Can the PS4 bring Sony back to console dominance?"

Nope. Not in this day and age. There is too much stiff competition for any 1 console to dominate.
MysticStrummer  +   683d ago
The Wii didn't dominate? That's news to me.
punisher99  +   683d ago
"The Wii didn't dominate? That's news to me."

Not necessarily. The Wii was in competition with 2 other consoles that is still selling really well. Not to mention the fact that those 2 other consoles has the big 3rd party games on it that Nintendo really wants also. If you want a good example of "domination", look at what the PS2 did to the gamecube and xbox, those consoles stopped selling completely at 20 million and 30 million, whereas the 360 and PS3 is still selling very well.
Aloren  +   682d ago
PS2 ended up selling what ? 6 or 7 times as much as the second most popular console of that generation ? That's domination. Total domination. It lasted the whole generation.

The wii sold fast, but in the end, it sold 1.3 or 1.4 times more consoles, and now it's dead, and the others will end their run not too far behind. In the end, was this generation even "dominated" by anyone ? They all sold sold extremely well.... the next one will probably be the same.

(well, basically what punisher99 said...)
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TimeSkipLuffy  +   683d ago
No. I love my PS3 and I will love the PS4. That's for sure but to be realisitic the XBOX360 is a good console as well and that will be true for the 720 or whatever. They already got their fanbase and will keep it.

Truth is Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo will keep releasing successful consoles ^^
DigitalRaptor  +   683d ago
They haven't needed console dominance to bring the best and most diverse library of exclusive games (what sets consoles apart) this gen.

I want them to be healthy profit makers again, to be able to carry on with what they are doing. I'm convinced that an elegant PSN solution is under way for PS4 that offers stuff like streamlined integration with devices through SEN, background task performance supported by increased RAM capacity, cross-game chat, party chat, cross-platform play, Gaikai streaming and other great features whilst PS+ continues to grow across the board. I mean I wonder what else they could add too.

Maybe PC MMOs such as PlanetSide 2. OH my, imagine that!

They really need the PSN to be consistently rock solid next gen to sway minds, as online play is prevalent throughout the industry and will only get (sadly?) more important as time goes on. But true enough, networking will be as important as games from this point on.

I'm sure they will continue making diverse exclusive games as long as they have the talent under their wing and good third party relations, which I don't believe will change from this gen to the next.
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MysticStrummer  +   683d ago
"I wonder what else they could add too. Maybe PC MMOs such as PlanetSide 2."

Yeah, lately I'm fantasizing about Planetside 2 as a PS4 launch title. lol
JOHN_DOH  +   683d ago
MMOs should be able to be made on the ps4 and sony seems interested in getting them on the playstation. It could be an advantage for them since xbox seems to have problems with mmos (subscription fee?) Planetside2 is awesome and totally free to download and play!
AutoCad  +   683d ago
i wont get it unless they improve their online os
SandwichHammock  +   683d ago
And what exactly is their "online os" Mr.AutoCad? The server side operating system?

Is this a joke post?
EffectO  +   683d ago
Yes.
But it could also flop horribly.Or turn out mediocre.

New gen=New ballgame
metroidfusion2  +   683d ago
Nope sony sucks nintendo will definitely own in sales next year then there is the possibility of all of nintendos big name games coming in 2014 psh ha lol I have read so many comments say I will wait for this game and that game before I get a wii u and obviously that will boost up nintendos sales by millions and nintendos new games might also sell a lot but we have to wait and see so wii u>ps4>720
Lvl_up_gamer  +   683d ago
If the rumors are true and MS incorporate a blu-ray player into the Xbox 720, then I may skip the PS4. My PS3 is primarily a Blu-ray player. There just hasn't been enough exclusive franchises that I liked this gen to warrant me buying the PS4. I enjoyed Uncharted and God of War 3 but other then that, I can't say any other exclusive on the PS3.

This could all change when I see what Sony offers next gen. MS is looking to dominate the family room so it's going to be all about the games. I just want to see if there are more games that suit my personal taste on the PS4.

Currently I am in the Dust514 beta and I think it's awesome that it's free....but there is something missing in the formula that is just not making Dust514 a solid FPS contender. Killzone is much better as a shooter but Dust514 has some really deep RPG elements.
Rainstorm81  +   683d ago
Or... or.. you could just keep your ps3 or buy a blu ray player if you need a blu ray device.....this far in blu ray's lifetime blu ray functionality shouldnt be high on next gen priorities list unless its being used for GAMING....which i agree MS needs
Lvl_up_gamer  +   683d ago
I have a PS3 so I don't need a blu-ray player.

Point is, the reason I still mainly use my PS3 is simply for blu-ray.

If the 720 comes with blu-ray then I really wouldn't need a PS3 or PS4 because the 720 will have all my blu-ray needs.

It will come down to games on the PS4. The main IP's on the PS3 aside of Uncharted and God of War (possibly The Last of Us) have IMO been sub par. I felt GT5 was a total failure. I felt all of the exclusive FPS were sub par. Bought LBP and got bored fast.

I just felt 3rd party titles were just too awesome this gen and were mostly better then Sony's exclusives this gen. I switched to Forza as my go to racing title from a once long time GT fan. Halo is my sci-fi FPS of choice, Battlefield is my military shooter of choice, Gears is my TPS franchise of choice, Bethesda is my open world fantasy developer of choice, R* with Red Dead Redemption and GTA titles are my more realistic open world choices etc.

Aside of the Uncharted franchise and God of War (although I did prefer dante's inferno more) there just wasn't anything on the PS3 this gen that suited my gaming choices.
DEATHSTROKE-cro-  +   683d ago
@Lvl_up_gamer

sub par ?

warhawk and battlefield are my favorite multiplayer games this gen.
uncharted, god of war, infamous, heavenly sword, killzone...
all great games. one of best this gen.
and they are not on xbox.

motorstorm is my favorite racing game this gen.
it looks good and it's hard.
"GT5 was a total failure" ?
GT5 sold more than whole forza franchise

sorry but if you think that dante's inferno is better than god of war then you're not normal.
gow is better in all the things you can compare them. I played both and I know what I'm talking about
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