In our discussion of the 2012 Spike Video Game Awards winners post we cited how decidedly barren the show was in terms of mystery reveal trailers. Last year’s show, for example, was chalked full of trailers many never saw coming, or at least were not sure would make an appearance.
This year, however, the only big mystery came in the form of a new game from an unknown studio. And this new game, titled The Phantom Pain, has sparked quite the debate across gaming forums everywhere, leading many to believe it is little more than a clever rouse meant to lead gamers on a wild goose hunt for its true purpose.
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Phantom Pain is one.
Kojima was just messing with the fans
With ps4 and next Xbox set to be announced could it be that ground zeros is actually a next gen title coming in 2014?
Last night pretty much confirms the fact that new systems are on their way, not one game was announced for fall 2013
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1. "It says it is"
How the funk do you argue with that?
http://www.thehollywoodnews...
1. Phantom pain is a reference to the sensations felt in a limb that isn't there anymore, nothing more.
2. Liquid Snake lost his arm at the hands of Gray Fox in MGS1. Big Boss died with both of his arms intact, so will Solid Snake. This story flatly contradicts existing MGS canon, no matter who the one armed man is.
3. The game play looks more like Resident Evil than Metal Gear Solid.
4. Metal Gear Solid is already a well established franchise with plenty of buzz on its own. Marketing a new MGS under a different title would take that away. Which brings me to....
5. Motive?
http://www.dailymotion.com/...
It's a long stretch, but if you played Snake's Revenge (non-canon) Big Boss gets turned into a Cyborg. While that was indeed Non-cana, MG2, cannon, did indeed mention or at least referenc to the snatcher series, Kesler tells Snake that he was indeed reconstructed into a cyborg where Snake kills him once again, this time with a flamethrower.
The Whale, whale Cuisine?
Also, I do think it's MGS related
what scene are we watching from MGS you ask? When Snake goes into a Comma, in which this is where they take his stuff to make Solid and Liquid (also Solidous)thus "From FOX, two Phantoms were born"
So for Naked, this is all a dream, hallucination.
I know that part isn't actually the original scripted part, as the english dialgu form MGS 1 is
"Liquid Snake: But father was wounded in combat and already in a coma when they brought him in. So they created us from his cells... with a combination of 20th century analog cloning and the Super Baby Method."
and the Japanese mentions he was wounded in combat which left him sterile.
though I think they decided to go with the english
This may be a clone of Big Boss or Snake, since in Snake Eater, Naked Snake's arm is intact.
Liquid Snake's arm wasn't removed until around MGS.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the funny thing is that since Big Boss became the antagonist in the Metal Gear games, we've never seen his hands without gloves on. Who knows? Perhaps all this time he's had a prosthetic arm we never knew about?
"Because when the trailer started, we all closed our eyes with our fingers in our ears and said 'it's not a new metal gear! it's not a new metal gear!' So, there."
I'm not sure but I really think this could be a viral thing for Ground Zeroes, not a trailer for MGS5.
"From Fox, two phantoms were born" & "The Phantom Pain"
The outdoor environment shown (before the fucking whale shows up haha) looks a LOT like the one we've seen in the GZ stuff.
A guy who looks like Big Boss undergoing some sort of weird operation which I suspect is part of the les enfants terribles cloning process. The weird shit might be drug induced hallucinations.
Plus the amputated arm? I know Liquid Ocelot did't really have Liquid's arem grafted on there in the end, but it could serve as a good motif. Perhaps they used Big Boss' arm in the cloning procedure, and Ocelot going on about all that arm shit was a reference to it. He would have been involved in les enfants terribles as a member of the Patriots and everything.
Another explanation: Maybe they're all crappy clones of Big Boss being culled?
But by MGS4, Ocelot replaced it with a cybernetic arm and then made himself get brainwashed to think he really was Liquid Snake.
That may also be why the graphics look slightly inferior to Ground Zeroes.
I don't know why all these topics are in n4g .. I mean I think its obvious as the sun that the man is big boss and the animation and graphics are clearly ground zero .. (and moby dick .. lol who is that )the thing I am surprised about is that its a new mgs game! wtf?! (AWESOME NEWS IF TRUE!)
I wouldn't be surprised if Ground Zeroes, Metal Gear Solid 5 and The Phantom Pain were all the same game though but I could equally see "Metal Gear Solid V" being "Metal Gear Solid Vita". The rest of the series doesn't use Roman numerals.
Also, he did confirm that Ground Zeroes is not Project Ogre which he said is being developed at the same time as Ground Zeroes.
And Project Ogre is most likely MGS5.
David Hayter @DavidBHayter
“@aganej2: @DavidBHayter so what was your take on The Phantom Pain trailer?” It made my arm hurt.
Bizarrely, even considering what it is he says, it doesn't ever seem like he actually believes in the the idea that he's promoting.
I'll be sure to ignore this writer, and his lack of integrity, in the future. Pathetic.
If you announced a new game and the internet blew up about it secretly being part of a major franchise you have nothing to do with, wouldn't you want to clear up the confusion ASAP (and before the actual franchise owners and publishers get involved)?
The lack of denial may as well be confirmation that yes, it really is MGS.