PSE Writes: "During the VGA's one game was odded out when it premiered last night. That game we're talking about is "The Phatom Pain". The trailer was an odd one but, some Metal Gear Solid fans notice quite a few things during the reveal as well as with some further investigation."
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It's not really surprising... So long as I get the game I am fine. But I am sure this place is about to go up in flames...
*Grabs popcorn*
Well I mean I wrote this article for discussion, considering MGS4 was exclusive and did very well for Sony. It's just interesting to see a game like this become a multiplatform game and how things will play out.
Wouldn't have the desired effect though, would it?...
Either way to me it does give the same effect. Only wanted to post this up as a discussion piece, I like to hear what the masses would think of something like this!
Don't you mean movie?
You don't want discussion, you want flames and hits for your blog... Sorry to break it to you kid, but you aren't exactly being original here, maybe you "gaming journalists" should try something new for a change.
If MGS 5 is announced this early and it comes out on both next gen platforms and they are as close (power-wise) as the PS3 is to the 360, it won't matter.
That sounds contradictory but MGS 5 would be coming out early next gen and everyone knows that early gen games are not the greatest (in terms of technology). Look at Uncharted: Drakes Fortune and then look at Gears of War 3.
It just feels like a slap in the face. Tekken,MGS,FF and many more franchises was made popular because of Sony. And to just see these developers makes sony exclusive games multi-platform just feels like a stab in the back...
Yeah, Sony had help the franchises start with the PS brand, but they are a company, and spending that much money, they are going to try and get it for as many people as possible.
It's not a slap in the face, it is someone making sure their vision and creative work can be viewed and played by as many people as possible, while maximizing profits.
And that isn't a bad thing, necessarily.
For fanboys, MGS5 going multiplatform is a slap in the face. In reality, it's business. Konami may be looking for a larger market, where bigger than the US market dominated by the Xbox 360? It's simple business. Not to mention Sony's dire financial situation would be more than enough reason to jump ship.
That's like saying without PCs the series wouldn't even exist because you make it on PCs, so they should just make it exclusively on PC?
How does it affect you if the game is exclusive to ps3 or not? You didn't invent the system so why do act like you feel betrayed. Unless they totally make it crap on ps3 intentionally, there's no reason to hate.
Seriously though why would they NOT make it for other systems?? More systems equal more money and it's a great idea because more people get to play amazing games.
But by that logic, they owe it to Nintendi too, as the "solid" series wouldn't have existed if not for the original MG for nes.
Soooo.... perhaps MGS should never have been on ps1? After all, they owed it to Nintendo, right?
Hell, we've went over this countless times now, but in the sea of N4G comment filth and people who can't find anything better to do with their lives than troll on here, we shouldn't be surprised that no one ever listens to common sense.
How about: game gets gimped for BOTH systems because MS demands that it gets the same quality on their version that the PS3's had (and we know that the 360 doesn't have nearly as much spec power that the PS3 has), and it would have to fit on up to two discs (maybe three if they are lucky enough to be allowed that many). There would have to be many cuts to the game if the game itself is large (and you know it will be because IT'S FUCKING METAL GEAR, FOR CHRIST'S SAKE).
It's not necessarily because Sony platforms made them popular (Tekken did get popular as a Sony exclusive, and while FF and MG were not started on Sony's platforms, they found their legs on the platforms and got mainstream popularity from being on the platforms). It's because of the fear that there'll be too much meddling coming from Microsoft (which we know they do; don't pretend it hasn't happened before) for Sony faithful to not feel like they are getting screwed out of what would otherwise be a good game.
Hideo Kojima is not going to make a inferior product on the PS3 just because his next installment might come to the Xbox 360. He has enough experience with the hardware. They also have a new Fox engine that looks better than MGS4. Times have changed, it's just too bad some gamers haven't.
Personally, MGS5 can go to 360, or PC, or Wii U or a fuckin toaster for all I care. As long as the game is good and pushes the series forward then I will buy it day 1 and enjoy the hell out of it.
When it comes to platforms the only thing I actually care about is that I would like to see it on the Vita. Yeah the graphics would have to be scaled down, audio would need to be heavily compressed and re-encoded, whatever they need to do that's fine. I'd just love to take it with me wherever I go, bonus points for cross buy, cross controller, and cross save/"transfarring".
long load time between chapters on mg4 was due to storage limitations (small HDD) on 1st gen ps3. but the whole game is delivered with uncompressed textures, mapping and audio. something still to this day, impossible to achive on others game systems.
@darkpower
I agree with you. after what happens to ff13 I fear for any non exclusive mayor title going multiplatform. I don't mind the game going multi, come on... everybody should be able to enjoy a great game on their system of choice. but I fear that microsoft would request the game to be comparably equal on their system vs the competitors system. and we all know how the story ends... its not sony's fault that xbox uses the dvd as the primary media format. so, why to punish Sony for trying to rise the bar?
Look at the bottom of this page.
http://www.mobydickstudio.s...
Both Sony & MS platforms will most likely get this game...
Then, at least it can be enjoyed and judged on its own merits, more-so than on its exclusivity..
I think you got it wrong, it isn't that Sony made these games popular, but rather these games made the Playstation popular.
No console (at least in the past) is worth anything without the games and 3rd party developers by far outnumber first party.
None of these developers owes Sony anything, and on the contrary console manufacturers owe developers.
Remember how, prior to MS, these developers were treated like dirt by these console manufacturers?
These Japanese manufacturers didn't care about how easy a console is to develop for.
That said, developers want the "MOST" people possible playing their game, not loyalty to console that can turn around and stab them in the back. Remember, consoles are a closed platform!
If you as a fan feels stabbed in the back, it's likely more because you are a fangirl without knowing it. =)
"*should have at least"
My grammar incorrect?
You know what's tiring, seeing endless arguments over such non-essential things. If people really want games to not be dumbed down per-say, then they really need to start supporting the PC platform. The differences in the PS3 and Xbox 360 are minor in comparison to what we saw on the Wii and what we are seeing on the PC. Both the PS3 and Xbox 360 lie somewhere in the middle between those two other platforms. For 6 years we've been hearing nonsense from both camps going at it back and forth and in the end it really didn't change much or do anything. To this day the games look and play awfully familiar on both the PS3 and Xbox 360. We've all seen the head-to-head comparisons and most games are very close. These references about which is better or more powerful have become redundant.
Sony isn't raising the bar, that bar was already raised years ago by the PC. So anyone who truly cares about games being the best they can possibly be should be writing to Konami and asking for a PC version. Go play Far Cry 3 and tell us all how the Xbox 360 is holding back the PS3. If anything both systems are holding all games back, which is why it's time for new hardware. It's not the Xbox 360's fault the PS3 version is just as bad as the Xbox 360 version when compared to the PC. Oddly enough both the PS3 and Xbox 360 are fairly close. How weird is that? It must be because of the DVD format, is that it? Same thing with Battlefield 3. In either case bluray didn't make much of a difference, now did it? Which is funny considering how open the Far Cry 3 world is. In fact it's much more open and larger than any MGS game. Having this game on multiple DVD's is not going to ruin the experience for PS3 owners who will likely get it on one disc. Xbox 360 owners will have to suffer from changing them, so don't worry about it.
Mass effect 2 came out when ME1 was xbox360 exclusive.
But then again youtube is ur friend for flashbacks
I can always read and watch videos to catch up on the story. The MGS world intrigues me so yes i care.
but i don't know if this is MGS5, since the character, which totally looks like big boss has lost his left hand while in the end of MGS4 he has a left hand so it is weird.
Anyway, what i had heared and read was that MGS5 will be about Big Boss and GZ is a prequel to it like PW.
Why?
Because your audience likely doesn't expand much. Most of these games don't have a coherent story, let alone the poor presentation. My guess, nobody cares about the events other than the ardent fans. Kojima isn't known for his story telling. =)
That said, many Playstation owners switched this generation or even own more than one console, so why not?
Never played any MGS game until MGS4....
Absolutely one of the best gaming experiences ever...
Been gaming since 77... so call me what you want, but a great game is a great game.
I have a busy schedule, but if ud like, I'd be happy to take some time and give you reading lessons via Skype...free of charge :)
Just like this gen, it will be similar i rekon with next XBOX dominating the biggest market, North America and next Playstation rule everywhere else.
With the popularity of Xbox this gen, they cannot avoid loosing million on M$ platform. Third Party exclusives are almost non existance today gaming world.
Just like hideo Kajima said, the new fox engine was created to play on next gen systems and currently only demoed on PC with M$'s DX11 features as seen on latest MGS trailer.
The 3ds is about to pass ps3 LIFETIME sales in the region. Nintendo has ALL the major franchises locked up. And a full year(at least) head start to build even better relations with 3rd parties, which already out-do sonys support structure.
Where have you been?
Nintendo is THE most relevent of the big 3.
You know the last "revelant" nintendo game that won a game of the year award was? Ocarina of time on N64 the only other one was Golden Eye. The N64 was the last time nintendo was "revelant" to the industry. You know how many technical awards the wii or nintendo have won recently? Absolutely ZERO. The industry likes to keep employing its university made game designers/artists employed by making complex game engines with graphics and physics and not making mario games on a nintendo system, sorry.
Awards mean very little, since most Nitnendo series continue the same gameplay mechanics (which make them fun), but turn people off declaring them a winner of anything. Thats why CoD can get as many high scores as it wants, sell more than anything else, be the most played online game and still lose to title like Borderlands 2. (which deserves it)
As far as the topic goes... I don't see why this is a rumor? The only rumor is whither or not the game is Metal Gear Solid V, it's already been "confirmed" to be multiplatform or thats a "troll" and this will MAGICALLY turn out to be Metal Gear Solid V...ita. Sure Kojima and others may or may not want to keep it exclusive to Sony, but games cost WAY too much to build now a days. I rather have an over the top game with an INSANE budget, than a above average (perhaps way above average?) title exclusive to the PS3.
Which is why Mario galaxy ISN'T the highest rated game of the gen? Oh wait...
And just ask RPG fans which game they would prefer: ff13 or the last story.
And (while this is debatable) all thid gen, when ps360 was being over run by the same 3 genres en masse, the wii held some of the most original and inventive new 3rd party ips of the gen.
This isn't even taking into account the mammoth sales they have amassed, or the complete domination of the handheld market. All while remaining the most well known household name in the industry with 1 year of losses out of 30+.
So yes, they are the most powerful company. Most well known. Most influential. Most relevant.
assuming mgsv is nextgen, what makes you think the next microsoft console will be weaker than sony? for all we know it could be in fact stronger as recent rumours suggest- then which console is holding back who?
"the games bound to be worse than when it was exclusive" I have a friend who believes that :/"
For good reason, but not the reason , many here even think, i would imagine its based on the fear the game play would change from stealth to "Completely" an Action Type of Game like this one:
http://www.metalgearsolid.c...
Many Times on forums such as these, you had mainly heard many of the fan's on the XBOX360 that just wanted MGS4 as a "gloating point" we took yet another Exclusive away from the playstation platform, that may bother some people. But the real bother was the real blunt truth of the matter, is the many of those same fan's said MGS4 was Quote a " Interactive Movie" so what happend to the next MGS Game? it went from Mainly a stealth Type game over to this:
http://www.metalgearsolid.c...
from stealth/action Hybrid with mainly cutting out the stealth part!
MGS started out as mainly a stealth type game , and has been that way for quite some time, its always good to try something new, but some fan's of the series would want to play a mainly stealth Game with more interactive background story being told to flesh out the game, more story instead of Mainly Action button Mashing. if you want mainly Action Button mashing there is already quite a good number of those already. in fact there is already going to be one of these already,
http://www.metalgearsolid.c...
Many of the fans may think the MGS franchise may get changed to something more along the lines of the Action type instead of the stealth type because majority of the main fans on the xbox360 platform that said they wanted Metal Gear Solid 4 beacause a) they would Gloat have to get one less platform because all the playstation exclusives was being taken by the xbox. B) to boast about taking yet another exclusive. C) Many of those same people said they see MGS4 as a interactive movie!
So is this more about getting the game to play it because they like the MGS series, or is it more about just boasting about stealing another "seen exclusive from the playstation Platform, and they could care less about the stealth game play. and if it changes play from stealth to Action thats ok than because they like Action game play over stealth anyway?
That is what i have seen as the main complaint about MGS going multiplatform, not that it goes to another platform mainly, its attitude of certain gamers on the xbox that the platform its going to manly has fans that would rather play an action game and would want MGS series changed to more like this:
http://www.metalgearsolid.c...
than play an Interactive Movie!
mgs hd collection not exclusive
mgr not exclusive
ground zeros no exclusive
mgs 5 will not be exclusive-unless sony pays which i doubt they will
kojima is a geek tech freak in a way so unless sony just blows his mind with a tech he feels like he can do special things mgs 5 will not be exclusive.
sony is in no position to loose money on its next machine so expect a profit from day one, price point of $399-349 is the max they will go
they have learn a lot from ps3, just look at Vita price point. They have realized to be successful quickly you have to give value to consumers and a consumer friendly price point
also my last point is development is getting very expensive and for next gen its only gonna go up so it really doesn't make sense to have any 3rd party games exclusives, unless a company writes a big enough check even than it maybe timed exclusive
MGR, and MG: Ground Zeros in 2013 for current gen. MGS 5 making the leap to next-gen. Just fits to me. I wouldn't suspect them all at one time. I just wonder who is in MGS 5: The phantom Pain. As far as I can tell Big Boss, and Snake had all their limbs in MGS 4.
MGS 5 revolves around who exactly we don't know. Is it in old era with MGS 3, PW, Ground Zeroes, or is it in modern/future era with post MGS 4 content?
I personally expect MGS Ground Zeros to define the new Zero and MGS 5: The Phantom Pain to define the new 1 or 100. As Big Boss stated at the end of MGS 4. It all starts with Zero or in this case Multiple zeros? :P
Also Sony would have to offer Konami a huge check to keep this game exclusive - MGS will do GTA4 numbers when its release on all consoles.
Hmmmmmm nothing gets passed you detectives.
...also nothing related to the game in question.
but i welcome V to be multi platform , next generation will have strong consoles , i don't think they will limit each other , not like this one ...
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But as I mention before a while back optimizations need to be worked right for the 360 port version. a mandatory installation for the Xbox that loads in the textures and helps framerate, performance etc. I really hope the game runs great on the Xbox version.
I'm not too worried about the PS3 version since I'm 90% certain its the main platform and will be treated right.
there is a REASON why KP made Fox engine multiplat and bring MGS: GZ to 360....also, MGS4 will not be exclusive forever u know, Kojima-san will eventually bring the game to other platforms "wii u or next gen MS console" just like the HD collection.
MGS5 will be 100% multiplatform...thanks!
Naughty Dog is arguably one of- if not THE- best developer studios this generation. Anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional. Oh, I guess that's you.
Fox engine is multplat so they're not limited. That doesn't mean EVERY game they make will use it.
And MGS4 isn't likely to come to any other system, as it was essentially designed specifically FOR the PS3. It's obvious you haven't played it, as you'd know there are entirely too many brand-related things within the game that would need altering(unless, say, Microsoft wanted to make fun of themselves) in order to get it on another platform.
The HD collection, on the other hand, is a far simpler endeavor; I don't know why people keep bringing that up. Besides, it's not as if the sales of said collection were really all that good on the 360, which would make one question the sense of continuing to make ALL upcoming games multiplat.
Don't know why I'm bothering to respond to you. Too late now, though.
And you're delusional if you think that game will ever go multiplatform. If you ever seen the nods to the original PS then you would know it's never coming. But you wouldn't know since you never played it.
The storyline was somewhere in the realm of freaking bonkers on a bat-shit sandwhich. The climax was alright, but everything before and after was confusing tripe.
The enemies weren't nearly as memorable as they were in games like MGS3 and MGS1.
The loading times were abominable...I'm sorry, there is no excuse for having to install each episode and have it take 5 minutes, this is the future dammit!
Mind you, this is all objective, but MGS4 isn't fit to lick the boots of MGS3.
youre obviously a one bubble troll. Naughty Dog is one of the best developers this gen. Another thing, the unreal engine is multiplat, yet Gears Of war isnt on PS3. There are things that belong on the PS3 and that is Metal Gear. Anyway enjoy your Call of Duty.
Hicken-
Agreed.
8bitHero-
lol yeah I can understand if you call him Mr.Kojima though...
Rainbow-Dash-
"MGS4 was easily one of the worst in the series...It had fine controls sure, but the stealth was off in that it treated itself more like a TPS than a stealth game. "
You obviously did not play that game to get the big boss emblem, the stealth in that game was amazing and if you think otherwise, play in the boss extreme and get 0 alerts/kills/recovery items and then come back and talk to me.
"The storyline was somewhere in the realm of freaking bonkers on a bat-shit sandwhich. The climax was alright, but everything before and after was confusing tripe."
Its Metal Gear. The story is so complex that its hard to keep track of it, only real fans of the series would understand what really goes on, maybe you didnt play the previous MGS games.
"The enemies weren't nearly as memorable as they were in games like MGS3 and MGS1"
The enemies were a saute to the original MGS1 enemies hence their names (Crying Wolf/ Sniper Wolf. Screaming Mantis/ Psycho Mantis etc...) Not to mention that MGS4 was all about bringing back the previous MGS games which is what made the game amazing.
"The loading times were abominable...I'm sorry, there is no excuse for having to install each episode and have it take 5 minutes, this is the future dammit!"
They got rid of this with the patch.
" Mind you, this is all objective, but MGS4 isn't fit to lick the boots of MGS3."
Your opinion and thats fine, but dont go saying the game sucks just because you played it once on liquid easy.
So the first thing that went through my mind was that it'll be the Playstation-exclusive MGS, while Ground Zeroes is meant to be the game that satisfies the multiplatform group.
I could be incredibly wrong, but it's odd that Rising, Ground Zeroes and Phantom Pain would be coming out so quickly for both 360 and PS3. And it's even more surprising that Phantom Pain is being rumoured to be a current generation game.
I'm calling PS4-exclusive myself, but we'll see.
Demon's Souls 2 EXCLUSIVE to PS4
Konami has it covered, they don't need help.
Would have preferred this as a PS exclusive to make sure the quality is there but we'll see.
Transfarring isn't only for the PS3, man seriously you fanboys sound more ridiculous by the day.