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Submitted by Soldierone 1000d ago | opinion piece

Kojima Trolls the VGA’s With Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes

PushStartSelect: "We saw what looked to be a new IP from a fresh new studio, but all along it was Kojima secretly laughing at you! When we say it wasn’t true, you might be sad. The game looked amazing and had an interesting concept behind it, who wouldn’t want to know more? Well this is what triggered me to figure out if it was Kojima all along. Go ahead and search for details, good luck finding anything. Lets dive into the details we can find." (Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes, PC, PS3, Xbox 360)

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majiebeast  +   1000d ago
The founder of Moby Dick studios is Koajim mix it around you get Kojima.
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Outside_ofthe_Box  +   1000d ago
Yeah I'm thinking it's Kojima trolling us. Too many "coincidences" as pointed out in the article.

And there is no denying that the lighting and textures in the phantom trailer is very similar to that of the fox engine. Look at the trailer and then compare it to the Ground Zeros one.
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PLASTICA-MAN  +   1000d ago
Definately MGS:GZ :

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

Edit:

This looks to be MGS5:The Phantom Pain:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...
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Nimblest-Assassin  +   1000d ago
Also, why did the announcer randomly say "oh btw, its the 25th aniversary of metal gear, and showed Kojima in the audience"

Hell, thats definatley fox engine
crxss  +   1000d ago
definitely saw Psycho Mantis at the very end
gaffyh  +   1000d ago
The original trailer had the words:

"From FOX, Two phantoms were born"

http://www.ps3center.net/ne...
FriedGoat  +   1000d ago
Yup this aint ground zeroes. its Metal Gear Solid 5.

http://i6.minus.com/jjrqMmY...
http://f.cl.ly/items/2T3V3O...

Ze imprints in the letters and the other bits prove it. Those neogaffers have been busy.
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NukaCola  +   1000d ago
http://www.mobydickstudio.s...

1. Koajim does flip into Kojima
2. Last name is Mogren ( M ---OGRE----N Project ORGE is one of Kojima's

This is their website. I smell a huge ARG coming from Kojima and I have to say, this makes me happy. Let's have some fun decrypting this next chapter in the MG universe.

Definition of Phantom Pain: http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

This is in relation to the lost of the arm of Liguid and the connection between the Solid family within the series. The pain that remains although the link was broken.
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Heisenburger  +   1000d ago
Yeah lol.

Obvious anagram *is obvious.

It is a little TOO obvious though, imo.
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Mikefizzled  +   1000d ago
It says hes called Joakim Mogren. Who apparently worked with a major US developer for years.
Without looking into its thats Kojima Ogre. Ogre being the project they have had in the works for a looong time. Only confirmed platforms being PS3 and 360.
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Liquid_Ocelot  +   1000d ago
Here's the trailer

https://www.youtube.com/wat...
Knight_Crawler  +   1000d ago
What a stupid article.

This is not MGS...its a new game, a new IP and you should be happy - dont you people get tired of playing the same game year after year and want to play something new with new characters?

Edit: Also why would Snake have a hook for a hand and if you look at the trailer carefully all the patients have an eye missing.
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Batzi  +   1000d ago
euuh are you sure you know who Kojima is? and what he is really good at? TROLL and MIND FUCK! Remember when he showed the nightmare in MGS4? Maybe that was a nightmare?
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CaitSith  +   1000d ago
Nightmare in MGS4?

...I think you mean MGS3. I don't recall any 'nightmare' happening in MGS4. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Batzi  +   1000d ago
MGS1 scene..Snake wakes up in helicopter and Otacon asks him are you ok Snake?
CaitSith  +   1000d ago
OH that part! Okay, I thought you were referring to the vampire nightmare in MGS3.
MariaHelFutura  +   1000d ago
I wouldn't question Batzi's knowledge of MGS4.
SageHonor  +   1000d ago
14 disagrees in 22 minutes. Holy shit
MariaHelFutura  +   1000d ago
"Also why would Snake have a hook for a hand and if you look at the trailer carefully all the patients have an eye missing."

Because Kojima loves "Metropolis" is about as simple as I can put it.
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pixelsword  +   1000d ago
...Speaking of experts on a subject :)
dredgewalker  +   1000d ago
Also if there are "ass shots" in the pictures then you can really verify that this Moby Dick studio certainly belongs to Kojima.
KwietStorm  +   1000d ago
OK. Prove it. And we also have not a single idea at what point or wtf is going on in the game at the time of that sequence. You ask why he had a hook for a hand. Well answer it then.
MmaFan-Qc  +   1000d ago
did i saw Volgin and Mantis in the video?

and cptn hook ......could it be liquid snake?

..solid will find his brother in msg5?

this video is without a doubt about MGS
Jio  +   1000d ago
If you knew anything about the Metal Gear Solid history, you should know that there is a character called Psycho Mantis who can manipulate people's minds.

Ground Zeroes (takes place before Metal Gear Solid) probably shows a young Psycho Mantis, and this trailer is probably a hallucination brought on by him.
TheOneWhoIsTornApart  +   1000d ago
Big Boss lost his limbs , Eye, and ear in Metal Gear 2 so it fits perfectly with the man in the trailer. And the flower petals that are floating around him are the exact same ones from MGS 3 when he fights The Boss in the flowers.
geddesmond  +   1000d ago
From fox two phantoms were born. A Phantom is something that is seen heard or sensed but has no physical reality. Thats why Snake would have a hook as a hand because its not in reality. It could be Solid Snake in a coma in his last dying days because of the FOX-DIE and hes dreaming all this. The doctor says hes not so long left At the end you see a dinosaur eat a chopper = METAL Gear REX. The sound effect at the end is the exact same sound effect that plays from phycho mantis. The voice at the end say V has come through which also might suggest they are trying to clone Solid and all those patients are the failures. What more clues do you need that suggest this is a mgs game.
TheOneWhoIsTornApart  +   1000d ago
Its a whale not a dinosaur
geddesmond  +   1000d ago
@Eater of worlds, my bad it is a whale, I can make out its flippers. Definitely a MGS game though because there's too much similarities in the trailer
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Der_Kommandant  +   1000d ago
Totally, this looks like a viral video of Ground Zeroes
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greatcrusader44  +   1000d ago
Also when that guy who looks like big boss is flippef over at the end, it makes the exact same sound from the ground zeroes trailer that happens when that burned guy is talking to Chico
KwietStorm  +   1000d ago
That burned guy = Volgin. Watch the trailer again with the guy in the fire, look at his outfit, and then remember the clearly burned man from the Ground Zeroes trailer.
Sharingan_no_Kakashi  +   1000d ago
o.O

That little troll... lol

That was absolutely genious.
FoxHound_  +   1000d ago
"From Fox two PHANTOMS were born." I mean come on, any MGS fan knows this is something Kojima would totally do!
BitbyDeath  +   1000d ago
I did not even think of that but you are 100% correct.

+Intelligent Bub
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FoxHound_  +   1000d ago
Thanks, Appreciate it!
ghostrider32  +   1000d ago
Kojima-The only person I can think of who can troll and play mind games without sparking anger and controversy.
BananaEatingSquid  +   1000d ago
I'm so freaking hyped right now.
Optical_Matrix  +   1000d ago
Nope. It's for Metal Gear Solid V. http://i.imgur.com/h9SP7.jp... Hence the "two phantoms" line in that promo art from August. Two games. You can see METAL GEAR SOLID V in the negative space in and around the letters of The Phantom Pain at the end of the trailer.
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MariaHelFutura  +   1000d ago
Metal Gear Solid 5: The Phantom Pain

I like the sound of that.
Onehandband1t  +   1000d ago
This game regardless is built on FOX engine, You can tell after watching the latest metal gear trailer. Also to note (All the sceptics) at the very end of the trailer, am I right in saying that there is someone floating up in the air? Looks like Psycho Mantis?

Also to note http://metalgear.wikia.com/... read this bio and tell me that this don't sound familier to the trailer, fire, russia etc
calis  +   1000d ago
They can't use the FOX engine for other games?
NoSleepJT  +   1000d ago
I think this is project ogre. But kojima never said that project ogre and MGS5 weren't the same thing.... And yeah, I swear I saw psycho mantis...
Soldierone  +   1000d ago
For further proof if anyone would like it.

-Spike removed the trailer entirely from the replay of the show. If you watch a re-run, they cut to a error screen while its playing...

-As pointed out on Neogaf, the games "title" can be inverted to read Metal Gear Solid 5. Sony got a new exclusive?
WeskerChildReborned  +   1000d ago
-The character looks almost exactly as Big Boss

-"Phantom Pain" can be referring to "From FOX, two phantoms were born" which is said in the MGZ GZ gameplay video

-I heard that at some point in the video, you will see Volgin's battle suit

I think it's MGS5.

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Soldierone  +   1000d ago
Its in the hallway when its all caught on fire. Lost the video so i can't tell you a time at the moment. He goes from crouching to standing up.
calis  +   1000d ago
What makes you think this is a Sony exclusive?
Mikefizzled  +   1000d ago
It definitely isn't a PS3 exclusive. The website shows both a PS3 and 360 badge. The recent news about Metal Gear on Xbox was probably related to this somewhat.
khvivi  +   1000d ago
lots and lots of people saying that it is psycho mantis, but there's a little girl appearing alot in the trailer., and me thinks that's her, a younger Screaming mantis
MrChow666  +   1000d ago
could it be liquid snake?
ForgottenProphecy  +   1000d ago
Only Kojima has the balls to do this.
ANIALATOR136  +   1000d ago
perhaps his missing arm is a metaphor for how the boss broke effectively "taking" his arm. Look at the flower petals floating around him at the start of the trailer. I think this is a huge dream sequence in which Big Boss is still struggling to come to terms with the boss' death. Phantom could also be a link about the boss in peace walker about funcional compensation for one part of her brain taking over the part that was damaged. Could also be to do with the boss being a phantom or ghost. Or of cause Snake being kidnapped for the les enfants terribles project but it doesnt quite make sense if these people sound eastern european. Perhaps its also some metaphor for Snake thinking hes psychologically "sick" and sick for killing the woman he most deared and therefore trapped himself in a hospital dreamscape
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Alos88  +   1000d ago
I'm hoping this is a new MGS and not some publicity stunt for Ground Zeroes, it would be kinda pointless to tease a game that has already been announced.
Soldierone  +   1000d ago
At the same time look what it did. Before it was "oh its Metal Gear" anyone not a fan auto blew it off. You come back and pretend its a whole different game, those SAME people that blew off Ground Zeroes are all of a sudden excited and pumped up. Saw it early here too, some of the people were going "wow that looked awesome" then the MGS fans kicked in and it went back to "oh whatever. looks alright"

Now imagine the average person watching the VGA's that don't run all over the internet. Its going to take them a little while to figure it out.
ForgottenProphecy  +   1000d ago
It's funny how every argument against this being MGS V or Ground Zeros that I've seen are really ignorant. "Why is he missing an arm, Snake isn't missing an arm. Snake has both eyes, this guy doesn't." They obviously never played a Metal Gear game.
-Gespenst-  +   1000d ago
Phantom Pain is usually related to so called phantom limbs, a phenomena in which you feel pain where an amputated limb used to be.

I'm thinking this video is like the operation in which they tried to clone Big Boss or something.

The phantom pain could refer to the loss the clones feel at being lesser versions of something, or which Big Boss feels at having lost a part of himself (his hand / forearm) for cloning.

Also there's the whole "from Fox two phantoms were born."
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Braid  +   1000d ago
I'm thinking that the arm is already there, it's just a post traumatic condition which makes Snake believe that he has an amputated arm. Phantom pain in that regard, makes complete sense.
supersonicjerry  +   1000d ago
It is MGS V in the name The Phantom Pain at the end of the video you can see it says Metal Gear Solid V. http://i.minus.com/i3faWjiq...
Braid  +   1000d ago
Guys, let it go. It's Metal Gear Solid 5. The cunning title which actually contains the letters for Metal Gear Solid V is confirmed to be designed by Kyle Cooper, the official title artist of MGS series. Do you still need further proof?

http://goo.gl/syLX6

MGS 5, confirmed.
TheOneWhoIsTornApart  +   1000d ago
I think its Big Boss. At the end of Metal Gear 2 he lost his limbs his eye and his ear. Seems to fit perfectly with the man in the trailer. But its also weird that he lost his eye in Mgs 3 so im not sure why they decided to put that in. Also the flower petals in the beginning are the exact ones from MGS 3 when you fight The Boss in the flowers
SephirothX21  +   1000d ago
Ground Zeros PS3 and Xbox 360. MGS5 PS4 and Xbox 720. Oh its real. Its damn real!
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THamm  +   1000d ago
Survival Horror+ Big Boss=Awesome!!
remember Kojima about Silent Hill
Imikida  +   1000d ago
Has anybody noticed the line someone says right after it shows the title? It sound something like "They have come too". That could mean something too.
Ethereal  +   1000d ago
I think she said "he has come too" as he woke from his coma.
Ethereal  +   1000d ago
I think she said "he has come too" as he woke from his coma. Maybe.
Ethereal  +   1000d ago
I think she said "he has come too" as he woke from his coma.
Soldierone  +   1000d ago
It says "The V has come too"
Ethereal  +   1000d ago
Holy shit, He got me again. I thought it was snake then second guessed myself. He just announced MGS5 WOO!
xBigxBossx  +   1000d ago
For those who played peace walker. Big Boss carved the same snake like scar the boss had into his chest. So does this mean its liquid or solid and not Vic Voss?? "!"
Pillsbury1  +   1000d ago
This is torture! Not only do we have to wait for mgs:gz but we also have to endure wait for mgs 5! Stop playing mind games kojima!!' :,(
JasonXS12  +   1000d ago
At the beginning of the video when "Snake" looks at his replaced arm, there are petals falling. Maybe the petals signify the last battle against The Boss in MGS3?
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