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Nintendo Still has two Unused Wii U Features not Possible on any Other System

The Wii U has been out for over two weeks now and everybody here at the Playeressence HQ is loving the system. Nintendo has finally put out a system that has a modern structure, good online play, and HD graphics. While the Wii U already has a host of features not present on the Xbox 360 and PS3, there are still two major features the system is capable of, that will not be utilized till 2013 at the earliest.

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waltercross1718d ago

PS Vita + a PS3 is really all you need. The Vita already has some of the same features as the WiiU Controller. It has 2 cameras, a touch pad on the back plus the regular pad. It has a Built in GPS and some games make full use of the GPS by giving you rewards for distance you travel. Also the PS Vita can be used as another PS3 Controller.

The WiiU can't play Blue Ray, Feature up for the PS3. Just saying.

dennett3161718d ago

The WiiU is a games machine first, doesn't need to play blu ray movies. Blu ray playback didn't exactly kill the 360 or Wii did it? In fact, the blu ray drive is pretty much a hinderance to the PS3 due to it's relative sluggishness. They don't duplicate game data on blu ray discs for nothing you know...it's to save wear and tear on the drive. As for the Vita thing....that's a non-starter.
Devs for the WiiU know the gamepad (at least 1) is there for EVERY player and can develop with that in mind. The Vita is a very optional extra, and the devs cannot build a game based around using that for a game because the user base just isn't there.
Also, the Vita/PS3 combo features lag while the communication between the WiiU and the Gamepad is practically instant, less than the lag that modern TV's feature when using consoles. It will never be used for PS3 gaming in the way the Gamepad is used with the WiiU. Well, perhaps the odd gimmick here and there.

cee7731718d ago

No devs copy the game on bluray multiple times to increase seeking times not to reduce wear on the laser that's what do installs are for and bluray did not hinder Xbox or Wii but neither contained a brdrive
But the Wii is an exception it technically has a bluray drive but Nintendo don't want to enable it because they would have to pay royalties to Sony I mean who wouldn't want to watch blurays on the gamepad from time to time it would be a sweet feature and another selling point for Wii u

Hatsune-Miku1718d ago (Edited 1718d ago )

Using two Wii u screen severely affects gameplay because it lowers resolution and frame rate. This was talked about by a lot of devs and is basically a deal breaker because of the tech degradation.

The vita which is not in direct competition with Wii u is better than the Wii u and its gamepad with its higher quality and features. Imo the Wii u pad feels like a cheap toy and seems like a cheap toy by its design , screen tech and all sorts. The vita with ps3 can do the same as the Wii u pad and more than what the Wii u can do over a ps3 vita combo. The vita has better a way better screen with multi-touch, rear touch pad and all sorts.

The dual screen feature which NES fanatics love to tout about on Wii u is actually a hindrance to gameplay more than it helps. Fanatics will pretend and lie to validate Nintendos silly decision on delivering an inferior console. Common sense gamers who's actually played the Wii u extensively and can give a non fanatical opinion can admit that the gamepad interferes with gameplay immersion. Even after playing for a bit the controller starts to feel heavy and uncomfortable.

I literally can look at the Wii u and see that it adds nothing to enhance gameplay because its tech and features can be had elsewhere with the ps3 and vita. The gimmick of the second screen isn't something to brag about because utilizing it is a hinderance to gameplay and immersion. There isn't a thing wrong with traditinal gamepad controller akin to the DS3 style and Nintendo hasn't improved or add anything to the fundamental design. The Wii u is a good system for the fans that will buy the same games over and over from Nintendo with incremental tech upgrade from Nintendos previous gen but its a lie to say that it adds to gaming things that hasn't been there. Whatever the Wii u can do it can be done elsewhere on ps3 with better tech and cheaper. The exclusive 5 or so games from Nintendo are what the NES fans want.

By now a lot of people who's had the Wii u for a while will realize that their necks aren't on hinges to look up and down constantly and that whatever is on the Wii u pad can be on the teli for convenience. More people will speak out on the lack of Wii u game enhancements when the novelty of the Wii u wears off. With the Wii, NES fanatics said the tradional control design with its buttons, high definition and big AAA games were unnecessary but now they are very important or matters.

WeAreLegion1718d ago

Gameplay is seamless between the PS3 and Vita when You're playing LittleBigPlanet 2 on the PS3 from your Vita. Try again.

profgerbik1717d ago (Edited 1717d ago )

"The WiiU is a games machine first" What a stupid argument. Every console and handheld will always be a gaming system first.

I don't see you complaining about the fact you are playing with a tablet controller which is not necessarily needed for a gaming system, I don't see you complaining about the web browser in your Wii U just like any other system or the fact it has online, a game system doesn't need online multilayer games to be a gaming system now does it? or to play games? Not at all but they are added features people learn to love not complain about pointlessly to side with their fanboyism..

It's just a pointless argument, you aren't going to find any gaming system in the world now that doesn't simply do a little more than just play games, which they all do first above else.

I don't know about you but I never buy a gaming system and go wow I can't wait to use it for browsing the web, listening to music, watching nothing but movies and never playing a game on it.

I am pretty about anyone who can afford these newer systems already has tons of electronics lying around the house that can easily do all that already..

To say the Vita can't be used the same as the Wii U is completely insane also, it already has been.. It's obvious you don't care about the system so why should I go through the trouble of even bothering.

If you don't like it, that is fine but this crap is getting old these pointless ass arguments.

What you just can't accept the fact that yes the PS Vita can do what your Wii U can. Is that so hard to swallow?

You are right it is easier for the Wii U pad but guess what it's lack of multi-touch leaves a lot to be desired along with other features not even adding the Vita's OLED screen looks far better than the Wii U game pad VGA and on it's own can do far more and still has good enough functionality between the PS3.

You also can't expect it to the same, the PS3 and PS Vita were not made at the exact same times more developer support takes time and when the Vita is more expensive to develop for it will take more time, The Wii U was planned together. No shit it will work better as far a tablet to console goes, right out of the box. Keyword right out of the box.

When more work is put into the Vita I can promise you it will do everything and anything the Wii U is able to do and more with Gaikai later on down the line.

You won't be able to say I wish I could stream this Wii U game to my 3DS so I could play on my works WiFi later when I am bored... again I doubt you care too much about the technology Sony has invested in so again why go into much detail into things you can easily research yourself..

Bottom line the Wii U isn't better hardware wise that is obvious, so why on earth would the Vita not be capable to do more, when the PS3 is still stronger and the Vita can do the same with the PS3 and practically is strong enough on it's own.

It just doesn't make sense and your point ends up falling apart.

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney1717d ago (Edited 1717d ago )

"The WiiU is a games machine first, doesn't need to play blu ray movies. Blu ray playback didn't exactly kill the 360 or Wii did it? In fact, the blu ray drive is pretty much a hinderance to the PS3 due to it's relative sluggishness. "

How is ps3 not? How many core games have sony given compared to Nintendo? Oh yeah ninty abandoned you last gen..

How about this 48GB game?
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Devs are already complaining about 360 disk. And what does ninty do? Start a new generation with 25gb disks?

" L.A. Noire, a game that spreads across three discs on the Xbox 360, the company confirmed to Kotaku. The forthcoming game about being a detective in 1947 Los Angeles fills a single-layer, 25 GB Blu-Ray disc on the PlayStation 3."
http://kotaku.com/5798996/r...

lol oh let me guess you can just download the 50gb games right?

Dice already know wiiU is not enough for the potential of their engine.

But don't worry wiiU is already hacked..
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

don't see much piracy on ps3? wonder why?

Wonder how many GBs games will need next gen?
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Dice & 4A are already now fans of wiiU..

Trine 2 devs love it though..

Just not high end game creators.

WiiU already having 3rd party dev problems.

Yodagamer1717d ago

@shutupandtakemymoney the Wii u disk is 25 for a single layer 50 for a dual layer

sniperxx1717d ago

@hatsnue - really? The Vita is better then the Wii U? You have either tried both and are ignorant, or have tried neither and are ignorant, or ONLY have a Vita and know nothing about the Wii U. The Gamepad blows the vita out of the water with what it can do... BTW - I have both.

rpd1231717d ago

@ shutUpAndTakeMyMoney

I swear to God, you post that same Medal of Honor video in every argument you get involved in.

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Neko_Mega1717d ago

I don't think you have clue to what you are talking about, Bluray a hinder to PS3? No, they closest thing to hindering the PS3 is the Cell and that is only because it is hard to work with.

Other then that, developers that know how to work with the PS3 have no problem.

You do know Bluray isn't just for movies right? Games like MGS4 an so on couldn't work on a small dvd without being alot of dvd's.

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MasterCratosKong661718d ago

PS3+Vita can be a great addition to your console library, but not a substitute for the Wii U.

daclynk1718d ago

well said.
haters and stupid fanboys dont know shit.shut up and play your PS3 + Vita.

while we enjoy your wii u's awesomeness.
delusional haters.

Amsterdamsters1717d ago

I agree. I have a PS3, Vita and Wii U...and 360 etc... Anyway, the PS3 + Vita setup does not in any way work as well as the Wii U with Gamepad, anyone who says differently doesn't own both. While on paper the PS3vista should work, they were not made for each other and few developers are going to do much with it. Using the Vita as a PS3 controller is a complete afterthought. Besides every single person that has a Wii U has a Gamepad. What's the percent on PS3 owners who own Vita's... 4-5% maybe?

BlackWolf1717d ago (Edited 1717d ago )

Agreed. While the Vita has a capacitive touchscreen and a back touchpad for more varied actions, it's screen is smaller, which could be a problem for displaying information and giving space for touch actions on the same degree that the bigger Wii U gamepad screen (IMHO).

Other thing I see is that you'd have to buy both the PS3 and the Vita for the same experience the Wii U is offering on a single buy (console + gamepad), which makes it a more expensive choice.

sitharrefus1717d ago

Agree, i have both systems and the Wii Pad has more to offer with the wii u than PS3 and vita!.

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andibandit1718d ago (Edited 1718d ago )

@Waltercross

Wow, cameras and GPS..., well if that dosn't send people flying down to the store, i dont know what will.

Cant wait to play madden with 2 cameras and GPS!!!.

And let's not oversell the Vita Cross Controller, I mean how many games support as of right now?.

profgerbik1717d ago (Edited 1717d ago )

See again another pointless argument from Nintendo fans..

I am not a fan I just enjoy technology and hardware and I at least realize everything comes from something and sometimes others make it first but it really doesn't matter who does.

Everyone I mean everyone on this planet copies someone. That is human nature, we mimic and build ideas upon others.

The stupid fact is all you Nintendo fans say the same shit also.. I don't agree that this person went to great detail about the Vita either, not at all but it very well can do the same as the Wii U, there is nothing wrong with having two consoles that can bring the same experience to someone.

What is wrong is how most you Nintendo fans point out the dumbest shit.

Like every single game you own on the Wii U supports the gamepad? No, so what point does your argument have using one PS3 game..? nothing really.

Thing is no one is really going back to recode that anyway as far as developers we all know how lazy EA can be. So seeing Madden 13 with Vita functions most likely won't happen.

The only games you will see with Vita functions are newer games. Which are exactly that just the same as the Wii U and it's gamepad that also does not support every single game right now.

I already stated also that no shit the Wii U and it's gamepad were made together so it will work better right out of the box. If the PS3 and Vita came out at the exact same time the same functionality would be there by now but it wasn't.

You can sure wait around for the Wii U and what it will offer later but it's impossible for you to do the same for any other company or see that as a realistic situation that things do in fact take time..

I am happy with my Vita just like I am sure you are happy with your Wii U. It's just stupid the arguments I see here though you do little to actually defend the console you love other than make pointless arguments that even apply to the system you are talking about..

I mean what kind of defense is that?

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Beastforlifenoob1717d ago

DEVOLOPE DEVOLOPE
WTF do you keep spelling it wrong and then act like the smartest man on the earth

Ck1x1718d ago

Someone will come out with a hack for the WiiU to play bluray movies just like they did with DVD's on the Wii. Not to mention with all of the streaming functions that the system has, its really not a missed feature really...

WeAreLegion1718d ago

There is no Blu-ray drive in the Wii U. There was a DVD drive in the Wii, but Nintendo blocked functionality. We will not see Blu-ray capability on the Wii U unless someone physically opens one up and shoves a Blu-ray drive in there.

joeorc1717d ago (Edited 1717d ago )

even Hacking this optical drive will just not do the trick you would have to add missing components to be able to make it work, than that does not even include the software.

1st of all the optical drive that is in the WiiU is not a Blu-Ray optical drive. that is like saying a HD DVD drive was a Blu-Ray optical drive because it had the same "blue" laser, which if you did not know that even though the laser is called "blue", its color is actually in the violet range. But HD DVD optical drives cannot read Blu-Ray optical disc's because they are not the same optical drives. its the same for the WiiU

example:

The reason, according to Nintendo’s Satoru Iwata, speaking to Mashable at E3 2011: Nintendo is looking to cut costs on the new console and get rid of anything that isn’t directly related to gaming in the hardware.

For a console to play Blu-ray and DVD movies, (a few more computer chips are required), and a few dollars in licensing costs. We estimate that adding Wii U Blu-ray and DVD playback will cost Nintendo less than $5 per console.

http://wiiudaily.com/2012/0...

zebramocha1718d ago

@den blu ray is a trade of for the ps3 sense it was a newer tech and the wii gamepad does come with ever system but it's up to developers to utilize it,as of know the gamepad doesn't have a advantage over the ps3/vita combo.

Wolfbiker1718d ago

You obviously have not used the PS3+PSVITA or a Wii U. The differences are drastic in integration and user experience. The remote play ability on the PS3/PSVITA is an unfortunately under developed feature and is completely incomparable.

Ck1x1718d ago

Latency is the number one reason that the PS3&Vita combo or Smart Glass will never be on the level of the WiiU.

MEsoJD1717d ago

I thought the Little big planet ps3/vita demo seemed quite responsive, but I'm not sold on the gamepad screen concept yet.

Realplaya1718d ago

@waltercross you can scrap that idea. Vita has like features not the same the difference is the way the features are applied. The whole multi tature what exactly would you use it for in a game to zoom in?
Why talk about a feature most used for tablet and cell phones.
The wiiu doesn't use a tablet or a phone it's a joystick with similarities to a tablet.
Also if the ps3 can be used as all of that and more then why I ask if is it not used?

neogeo1718d ago

Wrong. All you need is a Sega CD/32x and GameGear and your all set.

Sega SD also has full motion video. Just saying.

jmc88881717d ago

No, it's the Atari Lynx and Jaguar. It's 64 bit!

profgerbik1717d ago (Edited 1717d ago )

You are right, the Wii U doesn't even have multi-touch. The Vita has multi-touch and way more features to take advantage of.

It may seem useless to Wii U owners simply because they know no better or never owned a Vita but on the contrary I have actually had a lot of fun with the Vita and literally all it's features.

People just aren't willing to accept that the Wii U really is not that innovative and if anything is a cheaper alternative to something that already existed.

The other great thing about the Vita is even though it can work with the PS3, it still is it's own device. You can't take your Wii U controller with you to work, play on it, come back home and interact with your Wii U console.

The 3DS sadly has no where near the amount of features the Vita has or the compatibility between it's new console, I am sure it will but it still is nothing to compete with the Vita. Another thing about the Vita is it could see full compatibility with even the PS4, with Gaikai.

Again most Nintendo fans don't know what Gaikai can do or what it is because they don't care about Sony.

The Vita can do all that, whether or not people want to accept it because everyone hates Sony or cares to only think Sony is crap simply because of poor sales is up to them. I don't care.

Nintendo has never had the best hardware so it shouldn't surprise anyone now that people actually notice that. It is cheap, undercut for saving cost on production to make a profit.

Regardless though the Vita is technically better hardware and can do the same if not more than the Wii U can without sacrificing any power from the PS3 or PS4.

Many people don't know the Vita and PS3 combo was in development long before the Wii U. Like I say if you like the Wii U fine, love it. Just don't say its more powerful, anything next generation or even innovative hardware wise.

I am not saying Nintendo hasn't done anything innovative with the Wii U but as far as hardware is concerned there is literally nothing innovative about it.

I really don't appreciate how Nintendo does that anyway, I don't get how broke Sony is yet they can make way better hardware than Nintendo ever has. I don't play games for the graphics either but after a while it get's to a point where you do simply want something better.

I mean I was fine with my PSP just like I am sure many are loving their 3DS's but to seriously say you don't care about better graphics or hardware is absurd. I know as soon as Nintendo releases another handheld people will want it because it's simply better.

I don't get why most Nintendo defense arguments always come down to either "I don't care about graphics." Or "I don't care about the best hardware." it's all bullshit because the majority do, like I said otherwise you would not be buying new systems, devices or products simply because they are indeed better than the last.

It's not like most people don't care otherwise they wouldn't be buying new systems period if they didn't care about better graphics or actually having better game play which comes with better hardware and more processing power.

I am just sick of the Sony hate, I have my reasons for not liking Nintendo I really don't hate them directly. I just hate the fact their hardware each time around is never that impressive, when they really could do more by now.

LightofDarkness1717d ago

With one fell swoop, I can reduce this Vita+PS3 combo argument to dust:

The PS3 is not sold with a Vita as standard. That's it.

For this reason, and this reason alone, you simply will not see the same level of support. It's not Sony hate, it's just the way the world works. Developers are not going to sink a large amount of time and effort into a Vita + PS3 feature suite if less than one percent of their end users will make use of it. With the WiiU, 100% of users can, and likely will. They can develop software that fully takes advantage of these features without worrying about wasting their time, safe in the knowledge that these features will make their game more attractive to the vast majority of its end users, and potentially improve the experience for everyone. Do you see the difference?

This goes for smart glass too, but to a lesser extent (because its pretty much device agnostic).

Plus, until people really experience the Wii U in their own home for a few days or more, they won't understand why it's a pretty handy and cool device.

waltercross1717d ago

But it also Isolates the PS3 only users from the rest. I mean if I had a PS3 already, would I buy a PS Vita or a WiiU?

younghavok1717d ago (Edited 1717d ago )

But nintendo does make the best hardware. PS1's lasers went bad pretty quickly and people were doing things like playing them upside down or on their side. PS2s were breaking left and right, even the PS3 had that yellow ring thing going on and I dont even need to mention the 360 do I? You dont hear about this stuff with Nintendo consoles... why? NES. SNES, 64, Gamecube, Wii. Sturdy consoles that were built to last.

Sony throws extra bells and whistles into their consoles but nothing that substantial that it completely outshines the competition. PS3 plays Blu Rays? Ok, the Wii U plays Wii games and is fully backwards compatible with the Wii's devices. Which feature is better for a game console? They both do online play but Wii U has a better browser and Miiverse is a revolution in social gaming. The PS3 controller doesnt have a screen built into it, can you turn off the tv and take your game into the next room on your ps3 controller? As far as a game console goes, the Wii U is king of the hill right now and might remain that way for a while, time will tell.