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Submitted by bad naruto 1161d ago | news

WiiU Hacked By fail0verflow

hacker and mod-chip developer Marcan42 of fail0verflow has shared a Wii U teaser video via 0xf0f on YouTube demonstrating The Homebrew Channel below.

Keep in mind that this is purely a demonstration at this stage. Depending on how things progress and what direction development takes, we may or may not release something like this in this form. Please don't ask for release dates. We'd rather spend time investigating the new system than putting together a release that may or may not end up being the Right Way to do things in the future. (Wii, Wii U)

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Jadedz  +   1162d ago
I'm a little nervous about this
Hopefully it won't extend to software piracy for the Wii U.
majiebeast  +   1162d ago
Where there is homebrew there is piracy its just a matter of time before it happens sad as that is.
3GenGames  +   1161d ago
Unlesss Nintendo would have gave them easier access to Homebrewing programs on it. It's not their fault they have to crack it wide open to get what they want. PS3 was only hacked because they removed the tools they were using to program the PS3 without pirating. Sony removed them, and they did what they were forced. Crack the system wide open. Not any bodies fault but their own.

The guys who hacked the system also agree.

Is it the provoker or the provoked who is to blame? Exactly.
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mandf  +   1161d ago

First off the Ps3 wasn't hacked. The keys were stolen and given out on the internet. To this day you can't hack a Ps3 that is over firmware 3.55. Having a key is not a hack.
HammadTheBeast  +   1161d ago

Honestly, it wasn't ever about the OtherOS. If people wanted that, it's basically free on PC's and any PC can run it.
rainslacker  +   1161d ago

If it was about homebrew...which I believe it is with actual homebrew people, how do you explain why people are trying to hack the Vita. They offer the tools required to run homebrew software on the system, yet just last month we got a report that someone has started to open up the system.

I believe the homebrewers in general actually do it for the reasons you state, unfortunately their methods lead to others with less desirable intentions to break open the system and allow piracy. Because of that, if they weren't just in it for themselves, they would be more responsible with how they present these things to the market. I'd like to think this guy saying "Is it the right way to release it to the market" means that they are looking at a way to prevent their methods from allowing someone to open the system up to piracy, but that isn't likely the case.

Also, wasn't it not too long ago that the courts saw a strong correlation between homebrew leading to piracy, thus jail breaking a PS3 is not legal? Your arguments are nothing new, and restating them doesn't change how these things happen.
guitarded77  +   1161d ago
Well, maybe it will lead to Nintendo taking the Nintendo Network more seriously, and patching Wii U to play Wii, Wii Ware and Virtual Console games directly from the Wii U interface instead of having to switch to Wii mode. It's a major pain for the user, so I hope this is a major pain for Nintendo so they will make the necessary changes to make playing older titles less cumbersome. Oh, and I still want trophies/achievements damn't, so if Nintendo refuses to implement a system, maybe home developers will.
blackbeld  +   1161d ago
WiiU will sell millions again just like the Wii cause its been hacked.
profgerbik  +   1161d ago
Nope, the Vita has all the homebrew it wants but it has not be pirated yet because the only damn leak in the system was actually shared with Sony by the hackers that figured it out.

Almost all the people who have homebrewed the Vita all say it's impossible to pirate games on it anymore because of that leaking info, plus the way the Vita was made, they made sure to make it extremely hard in almost every aspect.

Maybe the Wii U could end up in the same position but it seems like Nintendo system have always been the easiest to pirate on or emulate..

Obviously.. I mean god damn this was fast they hacked the Wii U, I don't even think they did the Vita that fast to be dead serious. Just goes to show how easy it must be to hack Nintendo systems.

As much as I love piracy simply because I wouldn't even be who I am today if it didn't exist or at least know half of what I do, I do hate to see systems like this abused by it.

I also hope like the Vita, someone if they do figure out how to pirate games on the Wii U is willing to hand it over to Nintendo, thing is the Vita only had one hole to pirate games which Sony is now aware thanks to a rogue hacker who wasn't happy with it and has fixed it, I am not sure how many options are available with the Wii U, if there is more that isn't good.

Best of luck Nintendo, even though I don't really care for you all anymore or your devices, I still hate to see anyone have their business compromised like this.

I guess it's not official yet though so no need to worry right now but honestly at this rate, it really isn't looking good, if it has been this easy for them so far.
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mushroomwig  +   1161d ago
You know it will, since when did homebrew not lead to software piracy?
3GenGames  +   1161d ago
When the PS3 was running Ubuntu an they were programming games for it that way. Once they started to access more of the GPU, Sony shut them out because they didn't want that. So they hacked it and did it anyway and everyone lost.
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ElectricKaibutsu  +   1161d ago
Sony and Nintendo are games companies. They lose money on consoles. If Linux developers want to make games they can use the Ouya.
Crazay  +   1161d ago
Ya clearly it won't ever extend to piracy.

SilentNegotiator  +   1161d ago
Oh look, overflow hacked something without stolen keys! Good for them!

showtimefolks  +   1161d ago
This could be bad news or good depending on which side are you with. If this wads to piracy than bad but hopefully Nintendo has leaned something from ms and Sony and can mve fast on some the issues and patch the system on time
LOL_WUT  +   1162d ago
Already? Damn that was quick! I wonder what Nintendo has to say about this.
TXIDarkAvenger  +   1162d ago
Well it was bound to happen but this was earlier than I expected.
Venox2008  +   1162d ago
thats for Wii mode only I think so, but still :)
Qrphe  +   1161d ago
Nope, the homebrew channel is ran from the Wii U menu.


Nintendo only really would lose money with the hacked Basic models since they don't come with a game for them to profit from.

If you hack a Wii U for free games the real loser would be you (why not buy a cheaper Wii and hack it instead), else enjoy backing up your Wii games, imported games, and DVDs on the Wii U.
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ZeroX9876  +   1161d ago
nope, it IS run on wii menu

Doesn't have access to wii U nand yet. BUT it could be a door to another exploit. but seriously, it could have an impact on third party support if the console gets hacked right away.
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Godmars290  +   1161d ago
How long has this thing been out again?
Crazay  +   1161d ago
These guys that crack protections on consoles, DVD etc etc are sharp dudes. Can't help but wonder what they do for work in real life using their obviously incredible talents for the greater good somewhere.
shutUpAndTakeMyMoney  +   1161d ago
They work for nintendo america....
cleft5  +   1161d ago
Should be fun to watch Nintendo go after these people. They are going to make the Geohot situation with Sony feel like child's play.
cee773  +   1161d ago
just like they did with the wii right? which is hacked in its entirety this is nintendo's fault for using dated architecture that has the same vulnerabilities as its predecessor they basically used the same exploit from the wii. piracy could run rampant and scare devs away.

this is not good news for nintendo
cleft5  +   1161d ago
You aren't wrong about the Wii, but it looks like Nintendo is really trying to up the stakes with this new console. I don't think we will see a docile Nintendo that just sits back and let there console get hacked without fighting it. Instead we are going to see mandatory console updates online and included with the games. I definitely see Nintendo going after this guy or anyone like him. But only time will tell.
rainslacker  +   1161d ago
It's hard to say, since we don't know how much they would lose to piracy. With the PSP, piracy helped sell systems, but software attach rate was very low, so there was a definite correlation to software sales and piracy which ultimately affected us, the end consumer, with a utter lack of development interest in the system.

However with the PS2, piracy was also an issue. I used to install mod chips before I had a change of heart and realized it was wrong. However attach rate on the PS2 was still high, so it's hard to determine if piracy really affected software sales that much. I would assume that it did to some degree because Sony did go after one mod chip maker, don't know what became of the case though.

I also don't know how much piracy affected the Wii attach rate, since their target audience wasn't prone to playing lots of games, which means they weren't likely technically up to par with how to do such things anyways (even being an easy thing to do). On top of that they may have been people with more morals than people who call themselves gamers, yet don't see the need to actually support the industry they love so much.

I think if developers begin to shy away from the system because of piracy concerns, it may force Nintendo's hand into legal action. However by then it may be too late, and honest consumers will end up getting the shaft.
turgore  +   1161d ago
Nothing too interesting. It only works for outdated wii games.
coolasj  +   1161d ago
Nintendo REALLY didn't try to stop them did they? I mean that took... what? 2 weeks?
Drainage  +   1161d ago
so....wii u hacked, lets start up a wii game and test it out. yea who cares.
MegaLagann  +   1161d ago
So when a Wii U game doesn't come to my region I don't have to buy a European/Japanese Wii U just to play it? Well good.
Qrphe  +   1161d ago
Sorry if many of you lose sleep over this, it must be hard being a corporatist supporter.

Who cares if they hack the Wii U!
1) You and many will still support Nintendo by buying games regardless
2) Hackers would have never bought the games they pirate (usually end up acting as publicity even)
3) They're ALWAYS a small minority
rainslacker  +   1161d ago
PSP says Hi. To say piracy doesn't hurt a system or the honest game buyer is closing your eyes to the fact that developers won't make games for a system if they think they will lose too much to piracy.

While you and many others may turn a blind eye to pirates, they do effect the development cycle. Whether or not publishers actually lose money or not isn't the issue, the fact is that the publisher believes they won't make money, possibly due to piracy, which in turns affects us.
Qrphe  +   1161d ago
Oh please let us not blame the death in the West of the PSP on piracy. Did the easy-to-hack DS die due to piracy? Did the Wii? Did the PS1?
Is piracy really to blame for the death of the DreamCast?

The average consumer has no idea how to hack. You won't see the soccer moms who buy Wii Us for their kids buy them with that purpose in mind.

Most important of them all, the undoubtedly most piracy-ridden system out of them all, PC, still has the most developer-support out there (Steam has sure tanked due to piracy hasn't it?).
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j4re  +   1161d ago
I think proprietary memory cards hurt handhelds. Give it a break already Sony.
rainslacker  +   1161d ago
Umm, well when both Sony and developers say it's a problem and won't release their games on it because of the extremely high piracy rates of the system, then yes, I do blame piracy.

Your second paragraph is the reason the DS and the Wii do not suffer from piracy.

The PS1 didn't suffer as much as the PSP because during it's time, while easy to hack (99% just needed disc swapping), easy access to the tools and ISO's required to pirate(burn) games was just not there for all but the most technically minded, and even then download rates weren't up to speed for large discs. Piracy was a big enough problem on the PS2, but because of it's massive install base there was still money to be made, and developers weren't given much choice if they wanted to sell games.

The Dreamcast? Not sure where you got that being a cause of the DC death. Sega did a lot of things wrong before it came out, did things wrong with it's launch, and did things wrong during it's lifetime. Not sure that piracy had any effect that wasn't already in the cards for that system, and this is the first time I've heard of it being a cause of it's demise.

As far as the PC. There are a lot of people willing to pay for the products they use. PC's install base is massive. It dwarves all the other systems combined. Even if not all of them are gaming PC's, the install base is basically the same principal as what Sony had with the PS2.

I'm not a corporate loyalist. But it irritates me to know that so many people turn a blind eye to piracy and completely ignore what it does to the industry, all while saying "people still buy games, it's no big deal".
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Hicken  +   1161d ago
And what good will this serve again?

Oh, yeah: none.

I really don't get why they keep doing this crap. More importantly, why publicize it? For all the claims of "doing it fir the people," it really just makes things worse.

fail overflow, indeed. I hope Nintendo goes after them and puts a stop to this.
Unlimax  +   1161d ago
The Wii U get hacked so early while Nintendo fellas having fun with their own life's xD !

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Shnazzyone  +   1161d ago
Uh oh, someone got smashstack to run on wii U. It seems to get just homebrew on. No confirmation of full functionality. However 1080p upscaled emulation is quite the tempting option.

However this isn't hacking wii U just yet. This is simply showing the wii emulation is so exact that homebrew install methods seem to still work. Unless this is shown on the wii U part and not the wii part of the system. I consider this not exactly confirmation of a fully successful hack yet.
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JonnyBigBoss  +   1161d ago
Hacking is so lame. If you enjoy video games why hurt the industry? These people make me sick.
ajax17  +   1161d ago
What took you so long!? Just kidding... I couldn't hack something to save my life.
ajax17  +   1161d ago
WiiU Hacked By fail0verflow -- source: lol
DEATHxTHExKIDx  +   1161d ago
at least I know Ill be able to play brawl minus and project M on wiiU soon.
Silly gameAr  +   1161d ago
Failoverflow. Still f' ing game experiences for everyone. We already know what this will lead to.
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killatia  +   1161d ago
What I'm seeing its just hacking the Wii menus as if it was a Wii system judging by how they are installing the homebrew channel. Its not actually hacking the Wii U itself.
Gigglefist  +   1161d ago
Can't hackers come up with good names? You know, like without "1337 Speak"?
It's not clever and makes them seem childish.
FantasyStar  +   1161d ago
" It's not clever and makes them seem childish. "
says the guy with an MLP avatar and username.
Broburger  +   1161d ago
Time to buy a Wii U
Orionsangel  +   1161d ago
Already? Hahaha! Nintendo's security is a joke!
ziggurcat  +   1161d ago

this is precisely why we can't have nice things...

piracy... sorry, i mean "homebrew"... will only run amok and ruin it for everyone else when nintendo starts cracking down on that nonsense.
nintendoland  +   1161d ago
People just don't get it that this is just like old wii hack. Doesn't mean anything
AllroundGamer  +   1161d ago
well lastgen hardware will be hacked more quickly...
JohnDread  +   1161d ago
Geez...everyone knows the Wii Mode is a really basic Wii emulator app on the WiiU. It's literally the same thing as the Wii OS, so of course the same exploits work there. Don't jizz your pants just yet...
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