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Submitted by MeatheadMilitia 598d ago | article

The Gaming Community.... No Longer a Community

Long ago there was the time when playing a video game by yourself or with friends was fun; good wholesome fun. Sure things got a little competitive, you may have expressed some anger to yourself, the game, the controller, the TV ….. the wall. But at the end of the day you found yourself turning off willingly turning off the console or PC because you wanted to. You were probably happy with the progress you made in that session or it was dinner time and you needed to energize for the next round of playing. (Culture)

smashman98  +   599d ago
Idk I feel like the article was heading in a different direction a much better direction than gamers are all about who's the best. I mean in a way that's the heart and soul of gaming dating back to pong. Hell dating back to even before video game. Everyone wants to be know as the best, that's what makes this so damn fun. Well one of the things. You wanna know what's really poisoning our community, all these entitled gamers!
ZombieNinjaPanda  +   598d ago
"Entitled gamers"

First of all, stop using that word.

Second, you have multiple things to thank for this new trend. 1) The Internet. Console wars and assholes have always been around believe it or not. The internet has just allowed us to see them first hand and in mass droves, in this case Sony,Microsoft,Nintendo,Apple, Pc, etc fanboys.
2) Anonymity. I shouldn't need to explain this one.

Really, there has always been problems like this in gaming, just the internet has allowed us to see it much more easily. But it doesn't also help the direction games are going in lately, enticing in people that first picked up a controller with call of duty.
What wrong with being a pc fanboy? I am a fan of my own creation. Not of a certain corporation who I constantly feed money.

I would say being a pc fanboy makes the most sense actually.

my pc really represents me not sony, ms or ninty.

Or maybe am just a blind (?)<--Fill in the blank drone.

So saying pc fanboy is basically saying "You are a fan of what you built!!! argghhh". lol why yes I am!
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caseh  +   598d ago
Primary blame is the internet, its given EVERYBODY a voice. You give that to kids and its bound to go horribly wrong. You see it in everything, right down to 'top 5 games of all-time' lists. When you see the likes of FF7 at #1 you can safely assume the author has no knowledge of the 15 years of gaming that came before.

XBL probably has the biggest share of muppets online, its purely down to MS including a headset with the Xbox.

PSN on the other hand isn't so bad, no mic so people need to make a consience effort to get a mic and abuse others. Still has its fair share of muppets though.
vortis  +   598d ago
@shutUPandTakeMyMoney

You can't be a real PC fanboy or you would have said you were among the PC Master Race and you would have name dropped a high-end GPU or CPU combo and then said "Consoles won't have tech like this until another 10 years. Now I'm going back to play Realm of the Mad God on my GTX 680".

That's how a real PC fanboy does it.
NintyJazz  +   598d ago
at shutupandtakemymoney, sorry to break it to you but all those parts and software you buy for your pc? Yep they come from big corporations. So yes you are feeding multiple corporations your money.
KwietStorm  +   598d ago
Entitled gamers
MeatheadMilitia  +   598d ago
I am not saying its bad to be competitive but there is a way to go about talking trash and being civil with your opponents
showtimefolks  +   598d ago
fanboys are bad for business but in a way their loud mouth attitude can help sell a game which doesn't get great advertisement budget.

fanboys have existed for a long long time even before all this mess now a days, what's truly sad is some of the editors of major gaming sites are fanboys.

it is what it is, n4g is famous for stealth disagrees lol. i hate how every day someone has to hate on wiiu than comes ps3 than xbox360 in no particular order.

people just can't accept the fact a game i like and they didn't can be so good. their opinions are facts while your opinion really doesn't matter
th3n00bg4m3r  +   598d ago
One thing i do not understand in the video game community is, why do you have to insult just to explain to somebody. For example:
Gamer 1: Which video game is this?
Gamer 2: OMG, F*** you, have you been living under a rock? you are retarded...ETC. It is called Half Life 2.
-GametimeUK-  +   598d ago
OMFG, you idiot! Have you not been keeping up with current trends?

You have to insult people to make it seem you're overall gaming knowledge is superior. People have reputations to maintain!

What a noob...
th3n00bg4m3r  +   598d ago
Thanks for proving my statement.
Wigriff  +   598d ago
Erm... I'm pretty sure -GametimeUK- was being sarcastic.
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vortis  +   598d ago
He called you a noob, but your name is noob.

Sorry, just saying.
MeatheadMilitia  +   598d ago
I don't understand how people get upset because someone doesn't play a certain video game. Not everyone has the same tastes and likes as any other individual. Instead of bashing someone for not playing it, the person could explain why they find the game entertaining and what about the game keeps you going back for more. You never know, the person you're talking to might go out and give the game/genre a try just because they enjoyed your enthusiasm.
chazjamie  +   598d ago
hmm this article is right. when i play fifa with a group of friends, they quick to act like a bunch of wankers and never assitst or shed some light on how they did certain things.

I dont care much for the stereotype of gamers; smelling like dirt, and being anti social cretins. but what does annoy me is they way in which they function, in how they argue, in how they demand. Its a contradiction that will never be realised, and therefore never be resolved.
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ACEMANWISE  +   598d ago | Well said
There will never be a true feeling of community using an online system that allows anonymity. With anonymity brings unaccountability. This encourages people to behave much differently, as opposed to being there in person.

There will never be a true feeling of a community if the industry is founded on division through competition. The online sector promotes their services as if it is a platform where a community is created. Yet they sell maps,modes,dlc, and passes that divide the nonpayers from the paying ones. Not only do they divide the community through high prices but they also divide everyone's gaming experience so that they cannot relate to one another. Why? They allow every gamer to personalize their own gaming experience in both online and story to the point no one can share the same memories about one product or game. Then they reward those that kill the most and prop that player up through a point/trophy system. That is on top of punishing a player for owning one console vs. another...where one version turns up superior in some way (i.e. graphics, exclusive dlc, bugs, etc.). Then to ice the cake they allow retailers to give extra content for buying at their store.

Adding to that the landscape of the industry has changed where everyone plays now, not just one audience demographic. It's not as small and hated by the public..or your family. Nothing has drawn the gaming community together stronger than during the offline era when finding another gamer, with the same passion, meant you weren't crazy or alone...even though everyone told you so.

If everyone of us here at N4G.com screamed out as loud as we could in one voice it wouldn't even account for 5% of the entire gaming community. The reason being the other 95% don't care. They are too casual or ignorant about the industry to make this part of their everyday lives. The rest of us are left to destroy each other through a system they call community.
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Wigriff  +   598d ago
Well said. Bubble up for you.
ACEMANWISE  +   598d ago
I don't understand the reasoning behind disagrees here. I say something. Everyone agrees. You say you agree with me, then one person disagrees with you...but not me.
rainslacker  +   598d ago
You shouldn't worry about it Ace. Disagrees mean nothing unless they actually tell you why they disagree. Debate is lost on people, which is why people don't discuss things like you talked about. Also having a large wall of text, even though well thought out, means that those 2 people disagreeing probably didn't even read it.
Admiral_BoneToPick  +   598d ago
HERE HERE. I agree with you 100%. Well said bubble+ coming your way :).
Software_Lover  +   598d ago
WTF ITS ACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
R.I.P. gamepro.com

(cherub2g)
ACEMANWISE  +   598d ago
You make me laugh. Stop.
MeatheadMilitia  +   598d ago
Well said! You ever think about blogging, you let me know :)
Hallow  +   598d ago
Look everybody, a well written intellectual comment right here on N4G?
Good job Ace!
Fel08  +   598d ago
It's funny, you'd think access to the vast diversity of the internet would open people's minds in regards to the many different tastes and opinions of others all around the world, encouraging tolerance. Instead there is no shortage of people who think of it as a platform to impose their own viewpoint as though it were common knowledge and fact...

...sigh...
Qrphe  +   598d ago
What did you expect? Being a gamer doesn't mean you're some intellectual highly respecting (and respectable) individual: a gamer is someone who likes games. Geniuses and idiots alike can be gamers. This is the Internet, expect people to insult each other all the time, the gaming community has always been the same, you just weren't exposed to it like nowadays due to technology.
rainslacker  +   598d ago
Just because it's the status quo doesn't mean people should just accept it. That changes nothing.

The gaming community may have always bickered about console war stuff, but never to the degree that we've gotten to since the internet exploded. Also bickering about this stuff actually required intra-personal communication, which generally kept things much more civil.

While trolls always existed, they quickly went ignored. Back then you had to be really good to be a troll, now people just comment endlessly to the same people over and over. It takes no skill to bait and get attention anymore.
Qrphe  +   598d ago
The online gaming community has always been full of idiots, fanboys and trolls (N4G definition) as far as I can remember to this same degree of nowadays (Newgrounds early 2000s from personal experience). I'm sure gamers outside of this circle don't have to deal with this at all.

There is nothing to accept; this is an optional community (no one is forcing anyone to participate). It's more or less futile to change the way they are (unless you'd want to reform our society culturally and academically from the root).

But hey, the gaming community isn't nearly as bad as the much more recent mobile phone community (ew).
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Acadius  +   598d ago
Once in a great while I will meet some nice randoms online who are having fun and communicate well but it is a rarity. Other times I see everyone in party chat or the player doesn't have their mic plugged in. I used to get upset about that since I communicate during objective based games like CTF, King of the Hill (Yes, I play both Black Ops 2 and Halo 4 and I haven't imploded). I can't blame players for not wanting to engage with the online community since I have had experiences where I inform my team that the enemy is flanking to specific area and I am told to "shut up !@#"
Don't get me wrong, there isn't anything wrong with smack talk but there is a line of class and civility. The malleable minds of all ages are digging the grave for the stigma of the gaming community.
mydyingparadiselost  +   598d ago
Although i do mostly agree with this article it's not all bad. I try to avoid the douches myself and I've found the new miiverse on the wii u to be full of great and helpful people. I'm sure it's more because of admins than anything else but it's a step in the right direction.
rainslacker  +   598d ago
Lack of moderation is a terrible problem everywhere in the gaming community. If you let people be asses with no repercussions, then there are many that will do so. Unfortunately I guess censoring people is taboo nowadays. Kind of silly since it's possible to criticize something without being hateful about it.

Doesn't mean everyone is like that, though. In fact I would wager that most are normal respectful people. It's just the ones that like to incite hate that are the most vocal and get the most attention.

"Don't feed the trolls" used to be a popular saying. You'd think after 15 years people would have gotten that simple rule through their head, but rarely do you see people just saying it. Honestly it should be the first thing anyone responds in any of Mika's posts.
th3n00bg4m3r  +   598d ago
#Wigriff For some reason i can't reply to you, but i hope you read this.
Sorry, i misunderstood, but again how can you identify if a written comment is a sarcasm or not, on the internet?
#vortis Why should you feel sorry? it is not that "Noob" is an offensive word.
Pillsbury1  +   598d ago
We are all divided by our own preference (Sony, ms, Nintendo, pc) but we come together for one love: gaming.
Hicken  +   598d ago
I don't think it's really all that different from any other community. Each one has different factions, many of whom compete with and are even aggressive with one another.

There is no "community" in modern society that does not have its share of conflicts, public or not.

What's with holding gaming to a higher standard than other entertainment forms? Movie buffs get irate about things and nobody complains. Book fans line up four hours for stuff like Harry Potter and Twilight and it's not as big a deal.

But let gamers do anything remotely similar, and we "lack maturity" or have "lost our community."
rainslacker  +   598d ago
To be fair...political forums make this place seem like having tea on a sunny day in a field of flowers with a soft lute plays about 10 yards away.

They should all be held to the same standard...which is basic respect for your fellow human being. We all have a common interest in gaming, to hate each other for the way we choose to express that interest is not productive at all, and one reason why our voices aren't heard much within the industry.
PopRocks359  +   598d ago
As long as people chastise and scorn each other for their different views then how can there be a real community?
The_KELRaTH  +   598d ago
It doesn't help that the mp games themselves often create such frustration - why, for instance do all Cod games default by having the mute off so you have to put up with various younger players that just like to make stupid noises etc which goes through the sound system. You mute x, he/she leaves and someone else enters and you have to mute him - ack too late, the map has started loading up so you have to wait and just put up with the morons.

You finally mute everyone - while the rest are playing only to find your the host and your connection is bogged down with artificially high lag compensation - may as well quit.
Of course after a few rounds of this there's a lot of pissed off gamers rather than the having fun gamers.

A few days ago EA announced the PS3 patch fix for BF3(close to 2GB); fix for lag, fix for sound cutting out. The game is now over a year old - that's a lot of gamer frustration!
AkilleezMight  +   598d ago
I agree.. Every coin has 2 sides, and gaming isn't an exception to that rule. I've come across just as many positive and chill people online. Competition breeds a lot of that negative stuff. Most people (Typically the kiddies) aren't morally equipped to handle it..hence the "uncivilized creatures" we often run into...But..such is life. I think if we expect to garner any true respect as a community..we need a lot more innovators, pioneers, and icons to step forward and bare that burden.
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Kamikaze  +   598d ago
I also think this website is run by fanboys me I like nintendo and sony but everyday I see a bad nintendo artical like wii u cpu weaker then ps3/360 sometimes I jusy wonder why cant ppl enjoy games and quit looking at the specs and enjoy there games also like the infamous SONY IS DOOMED ARTICALS JUST STOP WITH THIS DAMN ARTICALS im sick of if.
I mean EVERYDAY THERS A WIIU WILL FAIL ARTICAL WHO GIVES AN ASS JUST ENJOY YOUR GAMES NINTENDO WILL CONTINUE TO MAKE GREAT GAMES EVEN IF IT DOES FAIL PLUS THERE WAS AN ARTICAL THAT AID IF THE Ps4 IS SUCCESFUL WHAT WILL THE WII U DO? What THE HELL DOES THAT MEAN
ThaTruthMVP  +   598d ago
What website is run by fanboys?
ArtificiallyYours  +   598d ago
A large portion went from being competitive and fun, to being extremist.
ghostrider32  +   598d ago
The gaming community is a battlefield Dynasty Warriors style.
StreetsofRage  +   598d ago
It's just good ole debates and arguments. It happens everywhere. Just look at politics. My facebook news feed is full of obama hate.

The debates here are childish play and normally I have a lil fun with the fanboys. But you think I'm bad here.... You should see me in the NFL forums! ;)

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