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Konami confirms Metal Gear Solid 4: 25th Anniversary Edition is PS3 exclusive

Konami has confirmed that Metal Gear Solid 4: 25th Anniversary Edition is indeed a PlayStation 3 exclusive after a New Zealand shop listed it for Xbox 360. (Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots - 25th Anniversary Edition, PS3, Xbox 360)

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KingOptimusAscend111   506d ago | Trolling | show | Replies(6)
redwolf  +   506d ago
Well that clears things up
dedicatedtogamers  +   506d ago
I propose an even trade:

MGS4 on 360 in exchange for Mass Effect 1: Complete Edition on PS3.

I mean, C'MON! The fanboy wars are boring. If MGS4 came to 360, it would be 4 YEARS after its launch on the PS3. No one is going to care. With MG Rising (Revengence?) and MGS Ground Zeroes coming out multiplatform, it would be nice to let EVERYone play through the entire franchise.
Ilovetheps4  +   506d ago
Did either the Xbox or 360 get the first MGS game? I haven't tracked which games they did and didn't get.

And also, I know that PS3 is getting ME1, but what is missing from the game that is in the Complete Edition?
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MYSTERIO360  +   506d ago | Well said
The mass effect trilogy is already coming to the PS3, so no trade
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Blastoise  +   506d ago
But without exclusives there's no reason to buy one console over the other...

But yeah, Mass effect 1 is coming to PS3 anyway :P
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MikeMyers  +   506d ago
"But without exclusives there's no reason to buy one console over the other... "

Sure there is. It's why people buy an Android over an iPhone or vice-versa. It's why people play games on Steam rather than Origin. They should not use 3rd party games as hostage to convince gamers to support the hardware. If a game can only currently be done on that hardware like we saw early on with the Wii and its motion controls that's fine. Eventually some of those games came out on the PS3 and people that didn't own a Wii got to play it. Games should be enjoyed by as many as possible and 3rd party publishers should not be using a wedge to segregate gamers and force them to buy multiple systems for no reason.

Sony needs to convince consumers by offering their own games. They need to offer their own online service, which they also do. Same with Nintendo and Microsoft. Microsoft should not be using its money to leverage people and make games like Blue Dragon and force Japanese gamers to support them that way. That's why we have 2nd party games too. So if that's the case like Bayonetta 2 on the Wii U then to me that is perfectly acceptable. They are funding the project even though they don't own the team behind it.

The only reason I can think of why MGS4 hasn't come to the Xbox 360 is a partnership deal between Konami and Sony. Which of course is solely created to limit its access in order to force gamers to buy that hardware.
blitz0623  +   506d ago
Other than the fact that the ME Trilogy is heading to the PS3, the MGS series is better than the Mass Effect series. Yeah I said it!
Krypto  +   505d ago
If it did get ported to 360, the part where Otacon tells snake to swap disk 1 to disk 2 wouldn't be so funny anymore! :)
Lord_Sloth  +   505d ago
There's nothing even about that trade. Besides, we have ME1 now.
OldSnakePS3   505d ago | Trolling | show
DFresh  +   505d ago
You do realize EA announced a Mass Effect Trilogy Collection for PS3/360/PC.
Mounce  +   505d ago | Well said
I find it sincerely hilarious.....That dedicatedtogamers has absolutely 0 agrees. 38 disagrees.

The Xbox fans always seem desperate to get games, though I don't blame them since new games barely come out on 360 that aren't simply a port.

MGS4 being begged, argued, debated, rumored, happened so fucking much before its original launch..... I'm amazed to see that there are still a mound of fans and fanboys who're still clutching at straws for this game, those who remember MGS2 went Xbox and it barely sold, unsure if the audience differs now though Revengence should sell well on both. Sneaking-games just aren't what the Xbox audience go for, nuff said. If you want to play MGS4, just bloody fucking get a PS3, they aren't priced at $599 US DOLLARS anymore.
Army_of_Darkness  +   505d ago
@dedicatedtogamers
That's a pretty crappy trade bro. I'd rather have the gears of war trilogy on PS3 instead:-D
Dark_king  +   505d ago
I guess people still haven't figured out that you would have to have a HD to make the game work.Its a must for the camouflage to work an since thats not in every 360 they won't port it.
MysticStrummer  +   505d ago
@MikeMyers - Your entire comment is nonsensical. If it was meant to be a response to the quoted statement at the top, it was a complete failure.
callahan09  +   505d ago
But Mass Effect 1 is already coming to PS3 in the form of the Mass Effect Trilogy. Already announced.
stragomccloud  +   505d ago
I can't believe how many disagrees you got. I gave you an agree. Anyway Metal Gear is hardly exclusive. MG 1 and 2 was on the msx, a port of 1 was released on the NES. Mgs1 was one psx the remake on gamecube. Mgs2 was on ps2. Mgs 2 substance was on ps2, xbox and pc. Mgs 3 and mgs 3 subsistance was ps2. Mgs3 was rebuilt for 3ds. Peace walker was psp and 2, 3, and peacewalker all rereleased for ps3 and 360. 4 was the only true exclusive as Rising is coming out for ps3 and xbox 360. Needless to say, you make a valid point.
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SilentNegotiator  +   505d ago
""But without exclusives there's no reason to buy one console over the other... "

Sure there is. It's why people buy an Android over an iPhone or vice-versa. It's why people play games on Steam rather than Origin"

.....Origin HAS exclusives and so does Steam. In fact, Origin's exclusives are the only reason any level-headed person has ever bothered with Origin ever.
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ThanatosDMC  +   505d ago
Only reason I even use Origin is for BF3.

Uplay on the other hand is douchy idea from Ubisoft in which it wasnt needed before but now they're trying to copy Steam within Steam. I have to be running Uplay to get the most out of Anno 2070. Uplay servers suck.
knowyourstuff  +   505d ago
Or maybe you could just quit your whining and buy a PS3, they're dirt cheap now. Consoles are so incredibly cheap, you can all stop wishing and pining for some exclusive to get ported to your console, just go pay a few bucks for the cheapest console, there's got to be at least 2 or 3 games worth playing on it that aren't on your console, whichever one you have.
Darrius Cole  +   505d ago
Man they really want Metal Gear Solid 4 on 360. It 's been almost 5 years and fans are still trying to get it on 360.
akaakaaka  +   505d ago
Lol at mysterio360
That was so funny hahaha
showtimefolks  +   505d ago
how about gears of war franchise for MGS lol juts kidding

i don't mind if xbox360 gamers get to enjoy this masterpiece but its been over 4 years and i don't see it happening now.
Rayansaki  +   505d ago
X360 doesn't really have any exclusive at all worth trading with MGS4
frankiebeans  +   505d ago
Not 1 xbox exclusive I would trade MGS for.
I buy all my games multi platform games on xbox but when it comes to exclusives you can't come close to the PlayStation I just wish they would have supported mods on the ps3.
Zhipp  +   505d ago
I thought that MGS4 couldn't run on the 360 because of it's storage space. If it didn't fit back then, why would it fit now?
...then again, installs on consoles are more prominent these days...
darthv72  +   505d ago
25th anniversary
There hasn't been 25 years of metal gear solid let alone mgs4. It is funny how that is phrased.

Anyways, if its 25years of metal gear then by all means....throw Nintendo some love.
MikeMyers  +   505d ago
@MysticStrummer

A failure? Please explain, I'm elated.

@SilentNegotioator

".....Origin HAS exclusives and so does Steam. In fact, Origin's exclusives are the only reason any level-headed person has ever bothered with Origin ever. "

You're right, EA is using titles like Battlefield 3 to add leverage, just like Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo do. That's what 1st party titles are supposed to do, showcase the hardware or the service. People like Steam, not because it has Half Life and Left4Dead but because they really like the service and convenience it provides. Even if Origin had the same games people would still use Steam more because of the service.

That is what the console manufacturers need to do as well. Provide a better service, more value based hardware, unique gameplay. Stuff like that. What exactly does timed exclusive games and DLC do for the consumer? What difference does it make to the consumer if MGS4 comes to the PC or Xbox 360? It doesn't. All it does is make those who decided long ago to take sides feel better about their purchase.
Reverent  +   505d ago
"If it did get ported to 360, the part where Otacon tells snake to swap disk 1 to disk 2 wouldn't be so funny anymore! :)"

Krypto, it would still be plenty funny, because on the 360, you would ACTUALLY have to swap the disks at that point. Lol...
sazzrah  +   505d ago
Since PS3 is already getting ME1 I guess that's a pointless trade.

Instead I propose this! X360 should get Journey - because that's a game everyone should experience, not just PS3 owners. In exchange PS3 owners could get... Alan Wake? I'd still quite like to play that.
BattleAxe  +   505d ago
"dedicatedtogamers + 12h ago
I propose an even trade:"

I don't propose a trade, I propose a toast! Here's to Konami taking the high ground, and showing their loyalty to Sony, the PS3 and the dedicated fans who bought the game the first year it came out, and made it one of the best selling PS3 games to date!
Aghashie  +   505d ago
@ Mike Myers

Bro, I love ur movies. Some of them are really funny (i mean, Austin Powers). But about your comment... the reasons because the game is still an exclusive are simple. Partnership and dvd9. Does that tells you something? No? Then stick to what you do at best, movies. Stop complaining and get a ps3, then you can play the freaking game.

MGS4 in exchange for the entire Halo franchise. That is a fair trade. Otherwise is a wasted trade. Deal with it.

:/
Kevin ButIer  +   505d ago
Fanboy aside. It's more than clear that Sony owns MGS4

On the fanboy side... I haven't seen any PS3 owner asking for Halo or whatever
MikeMyers  +   505d ago
@Aghashie

I have a PS3. It's a slim model that came with Infamous 2. Great game by the way and I have to play it again with the Playstation Move. I also used to own MGS4. That too was a good game but I traded it. Nobody can answer one question though, why would it matter to anyone if MGS4 came to the Xbox 360 now? The more access the more people can play it.

@Kevin Butler

Why would anyone ask or expect Halo to come to the PS3? It's intellectual property is owned by Microsoft. Are you suggesting Metal Gear Solid is owned by Sony?

Perhaps I am just an oddity around here who actually enjoys the games and doesn't get caught up in all this childish behavior to do with console wars or picking sides with certain companies/publishers.
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dark-hollow  +   506d ago
Who would've thought...
Consoldtobots  +   505d ago
I find it hilarious that it drives MS and their fanboys up the wall that this is one game their wallet can't reach. We all know a sizeable minority of these fanboys only want the game to come to 360 so they can troll PS3 owners till the cows come home.

kids......
MariaHelFutura  +   505d ago
It doesn't change a thing. Next month, 3 months from now, a year from now we will see something saying MGS4 is coming to the 360. Just like we will see somthing about a FF7 remake, an Apple console and something about how Shenmue is being made for exclusively for one system or another. MGS4 coming to the 360 is just the biggest one out of all the things I just mentioned. It causes instant tension round here. Always has, alway will.
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Jazz4108  +   505d ago
Its such an old game and I played it when it came out. It was dissapointing with to many cutscenes and loads and installs every time you play it. The only reason I would want to see it on the 360 and the reason Konami has not ported it is it would by far be the much better version and Konami does not want to deal with all the whining and hatefull ps fans. Im sure they would get death threats while masseffect one going to ps3 is a oh well moment as 360 fans dont seem to care about the ps3 like ps3 fans care about every kittle move. I guess when you go from first to last it hurt some pride and I guess they blame ms.
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MRMagoo123  +   505d ago
@jazza

Ps3 isnt last anymore 360 is.
P_Bomb  +   505d ago
@Jazz

If ME1 going multiplat was an 'oh well' moment, it's cuz we didn't have articles like this every other month for years on end, having to shoot down rumors of its re-allegiance.

It was simply never as in demand as MGS4. That and the "whining/hateful ps fans" as you call them, didn't make a big deal out of not having it. The ME2 prequel digital comic (which 360 has too on XBLA) had all the most important decisions, save for an extra 10 war assets for Kirahhe or Shiala in ME3 which could be rectified by a couple rounds of multiplayer.

As far as MGS4 goes, they patched out all the chapter load/install breaks in September with the option for one full install. I did one full 9GB install when I replayed it for trophies and had an amazing no-kills run. So smooth without those between chapter 'Smoking Snake' segments. Loads quicker too. Game aged *extremely* well, I forgot how good it was.
xtremeimport  +   505d ago
lol. xbots still trying to convince everyone its "eventually" coming to the 360 eh?
doogiebear  +   505d ago
Will MGO be returning? If not, then I don't give a damn.
NYC_Gamer  +   506d ago
MGS4 wasn't built with the 360 hardware in mind
bubblebeam  +   506d ago
Yes, people keep forgetting.

That game used a dual-layer Blu-ray disc. It had so many cut-scenes, it would fill up AT LEAST 4 Dvd's.

PS3's are cheap now, so if people want to play it, then get a PS3. Sure, it would be good if they did make it multi-platform, as it is a great game that should be played by as many people as possible, but it isn't going to happen, especially not this gen.
kingPoS  +   505d ago
I not sure all were cut-scenes, I think maybe two or three were. I believe the rest was in real time.
Codeman420  +   505d ago
Ppl also forget inorder for it to be put into the 360 they would have had to go change a ton of stuff in the game. They took so many jabs at the 360.
xtreampro  +   505d ago
Change what exactly? the graphics wouldn't need changing at all since many multi-platform games today look better than MGS4 and run just fine on the 360.

The only drawback is the 360 version would have to use multiple discs due the games massive audio files, and to be honest that really ins't a drawback.
Codeman420  +   504d ago
obviously you havent played the game. There is multiple Dialog sessions in the game promoting Blu ray over DVD. They would have to go redo the dialog and redo the animation for that dialog costing more money than just keeping it PS3 Exclusive. Also the fact that snake uses a PS3 controller to control his Metal Gear counter part. Also the fact that it goes back to the PS1 game which was never designed for the Xbox system.
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brian1985FM  +   506d ago
I knew it. MGS4 on 360 is a pipedream.
torchic  +   505d ago
lol there's something very crushing about the word "pipedream" ahahaha

hard luck Microsoft, maybe next forever.
brian1985FM  +   505d ago
I wonder if it's another word for the male reproductive organ.... hmmmm.
Optical_Matrix  +   506d ago
No surprise. If you wanted to get the game so badly you would have bought a PS3 by now anyway. Really wouldn't make sense to spend the money porting it to the 360 only to satiate for the small diaspora of 360 fans who probably wanted the game but refused to buy a PS3 out of sheer disdain for the platform and Sony.
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Conquerbeard  +   505d ago
So, 360 owners are just people displaced from the Sony homeland? I just can't fathom buying a specific console just to play a couple games [namely, MGS4 and Heavy Rain]. Maybe the PS4 will have some sort of backwards compatibility, but I'm not holding my breath.
MysticStrummer  +   505d ago
That goes both ways. There are many games on PS3 that I'd say are reason enough to buy one. Many games I would want if I only had a 360. On 360, there are very few games I would want if they came to PS3. Just sayin it goes both ways and it's subjective.
TheRealHeisenberg  +   506d ago
Now some can sleep better at night.
rezzah  +   505d ago
lol
GarandShooter  +   505d ago
While others will toss and turn, pounding the pillow trying to get some comfort...to no avail.
Tetsujin  +   506d ago
And some moron will still argue "It's coming on the 720, they're just under contract with Sony to keep it exclusive to the PS3 for now."

Now for the "Vs13 is coming to 360" stories to start up again...
NeverEnding1989  +   505d ago
Both Metal Gear Solid and Final Fantasy series have gone multiplatform in recent years. Of course the VS13 stories will start up again...there is no reason for them not to
Sarcasm  +   505d ago
No, they won't argue that its going to the next xbox. They will still argue that it will go to the 360. That's how bad it is deeply scarred in their hearts.
SuperSonic266  +   506d ago
better luck next time ;)
TimeSkipLuffy  +   506d ago
I don't care if it would have been released on XBOX360. But Im happy I get to play Mass Effect I X'D
Ron_Danger  +   506d ago
Mass Effect is coming to the PS3 (assuming your comment was meant to be a mass effect 360 exclusive comment)
TimeSkipLuffy  +   504d ago
I am finally able to play it on my PS3 is what I meant. ^^
abzdine  +   506d ago
I still don't understand why Old Snake isn't playable in Battle Royale !

360 cannot run MGS4, when will you understand this ?
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Lvl_up_gamer  +   506d ago
MGS4 on the 360 is like the Gears of War franchise on the PS3....

It ain't gonna happen.

We have a whole next gen of Fanboy dribble to tread through soon enough. You fanboys should be resting up for that and not waste it on rumors about a game that released almost 5 years ago.
SuperSonic266  +   506d ago
Except gears is possible on the ps3..
Lvl_up_gamer  +   506d ago
Show me a PS3 exclusive that has 4 player coop in the main campaign with large playing areas and equally great graphics like Gears of War....

Still waiting....

Now prove to me that MGS4 can't be done on the 360.

There is nothing in MGS4 that can't be done on the 360. Only Fanboys believe that it can't be done because they don't want to be proven that their system of choice isn't the almighty system of all systems.

Edit - Wow disagres already and nothing to back it up with.

I am guessing it's just fanboy's upset with the truth.
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Rainstorm81  +   506d ago
Ratchet and Clank All 4 One?...maybe not graphically though
SonyStyled  +   505d ago
quoted from mr. kojima himself. now if the developers words dont convince you it cant be done on 360, then i think your really stubborn. "Kojima went out and blatantly stated that the Xbox 360 couldn’t handle Metal Gear Solid 4". http://www.examiner.com/art...
soniqstylz  +   505d ago
Lvl_up: Uh, Resistance 2 had 8-player co-op.

Gears is built from Unreal Engine, it would work fine on PS3, just like Unreal Tournament III did.
Ron_Danger  +   505d ago
@lvl_up

Calm down killer. I think you are forgetting that the 360 was basically built to be an Unreal Engine 3 power house. And i'm sure it doesn't have as many smoke filters or lense flares as GoW3, but Borderlands 2 has 4 player coop, RPG elements, huge environments, and millions of weapons and gear. The reason that Halo, Gears, and Forza look and play so good is because they're the only exclusives that really sell for MS therefor they can afford to dump basically an unlimited budget on them. Why don't you list a few other 360 games that are on par with Gears3 which would prove that MGS4 is possible on 360, or you could just realize that it's not financially smart to put MGS4 on 360 right now since: 1) it's an old game now and should be priced around $30-$40, and 2) since its such a huge game, it would require multiple DVDs which would further require special packaging thus increasing packaging costs which would only be financially smart if they sold it for $50-$60 (which people won't spend for a game that came out years ago)
Lvl_up_gamer  +   505d ago
@ Rainstorm81

So you even stated yourself. Lack of graphical fidelity. Therefore, not an example.

@ SonyStyled

Of course He was going to say that. It's an exclusive game. He is not about to say yes this game can be done on the competitors platform. It would have been a conflict of interest.

Do you remember when Julian Eggebrecht of Factor 5 said that LAIR couldn't be done on the 360? We ALL know that was nothing but PR BS.

http://n4g.com/news/35156/f...

We all KNOW that it could have been seeing what has been released since LAIR.

@ soniqstylz

Not ONLY was Resistence 2 nowhere NEAR the graphical fidelity of Gears of War, the 8 player co-op was NOT from the main campaign. It was a specially made small campaign.

@ Ron_Danger

1st of all I said "exclusive" and 2nd of all if you think Borderlands (a cell shaded game) has the graphical fidelity of Gears of War, then you have already lost the right to be heard let alone counter argue.

It doesn't matter WHAT engine is used. Nobody can name a single game that requires the parameters of which I have drawn out found in titles like Gears of War and Halo. You just name a game that has 1 of the parameters.

Resistance 2 - NOT 4 player co-op for the MAIN campaign.

R&C - Not large open world fighting areas or the same degree of graphical fidelity.

Borderlands - NOT same degree of graphical fidelity.

@ Slugg3r

You are talking about media storage, NOT what the hardware can't do. Yes it would take 2-3 discs for the large amount of video and audio sure...but that doesn't mean the 360 wouldn't be able to run the game. MGS4 was built around the PS3 architecture but it was first built on PC then optimized for the CELL. If it can be built on the PC, then it can be optimized for the 360. Simple as that. There is NOTHING in MGS4 that the 360 can't run, it just means that more discs would need to be used simple to store the mass amount of data that comprises the MGS4 game.

Lets not forget people, that MGS4 also has DUPE files to help read off the disc faster which wouldn't have been needed if the game was on a DVD9. It would more then likely fit on 2 DVD9's compressed.

The reason why you won't see a 4 player co-op in the MAIN campaign with open environments, high level graphical fidelity like Gears or Uncharted is because of the RAM issues within the PS3. The RAM just can't be split enough to maintain great graphics if you start adding in larger environments and more then 2 players in the MAIN campaign. It's too constricting on the PS3.

Only fanboys don't want to accept the truth.
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yami930  +   505d ago
@Lvl_up_gamer

Why are you asking for a PS3 exclusive with 4 player co-op and all that other stuff? Just because it may not be there, doesnt mean its not possible, because there have been multiplatform games that easily show its possible.

MGS4 as it is now will cost to much for Kojima to do, and the only way to make it cheaper is to cut things out, compress things, or just make it look worse, and Kojima is not the type of developer to work under such restrictions, or to lower his games when not needed. Kojima already stated he felt kind of bad over not even having the PS3 version complete, being that he cut a few missions out, and compressed some things (I believe it was mostly audio being that audio file hold the most weight in data) even though he was one of the first to fill a dual-layer 50 GB Blu ray disc (which would directly translate to at least 6 dvds, he might be able to compress it to 4 or 5). Also the game was built from the ground up on an engine specifically tailored for the PS3, so to port would probably be a little harder for them further increasing cost of moving the game to 360. Then from a story standpoint, if you've only been a xbox fan from day one, you may not have played MGS1, therefore you will not understand the flashbacks (no one knows how many xbox owners also own other consoles or have played MGS1) and all PS3 references will have to be removed or rreplaced, but Kojima saw that when MGS2 was released on the first xbox, no one bought it, so he didnt continue to release them on that platform. The reason why Ground Zeroes and Rising are coming onto 360 is because first they aren't as big (space consuming wise with Ground Zeroes being open world now and Rising being an action game with big areas), then with the HD collection 360 players are caught up with the story now to play Ground Zeroes while Rising has a non cannon story (but there are references to MGS4 some people might not get), also both games were made from the begining on multiplatform engines, with both consoles in mind. So MGS4 is not impossible on 360, but it would require a lot of work, which equals a lot of money on there part (not to mention all the microsoft fees they would have to go throguh like paying extra per DVD they have the game on, and paying much more to patch the game on 360 than any other console), money that they are not sure they will earn back through profit to solidfy a port being made making the game very very unlikely to come out. I'm sure they have thought about, and if it was to ever come out on Xbox, it would be safe to say it will release on the next xbox console.

Also, you didnt prove yourself as to why MGS4 cant be done on 360, you just stated it cant, so why not provide evidence to back yourself up first, before asking other people for their evidence to prove you wrong.
Rainstorm81  +   505d ago
I agreed R&C isn't graphically comparable, but Gears 3 is far from open world.

But honestly what's the point we all know that the PS3 has highly graphical games that probably can't be done on 360, that doesn't take away from the 360....so dont try to detract from the PS3 because the 360 has one 4 player co-op game that looks great....cause Crackdown 2 was another 4 player coop exclusive and it looked like ass
DOMination-  +   505d ago
Ground Zeroes is coming to 360. So does that mean the 360 CAN handle it, or that Ground Zeroes is an inferior game to MGS4 technically?

lulz, seriously though this game should just stay on PS3. If every game was available on every console then there's no identity to them. The PS2 may have destroyed the Xbox last gen but the Xbox had a string of great exclusives that defined it and it's successor.
JasonKCK  +   505d ago
MGS4 is a 4 year old game. Since then there have been a few games on the Xbox that look just as good or even better. Rage, Crysis 2, Halo 4, Forza and Witcher 2 come to mind. That tends to happen as the years go by. The only thing holding the 360 back is the lack of Blu ray. MGS4 would take 4-5 DVDs but to say the 360 couldn't play it is just silly fanboy talk.
Ron_Danger  +   505d ago
@lvl_up

I'll switch up the argument here a little. We all know the structure of the RAM on each system is built differently which is why the 360 can have larger environments with co-op, but can you name a 360 game that looks better than Uncharted 2 (specifically the train level) or Killzone 2? Those are just single player campaigns so they shouldn't be taxing at all for the 360, but those are old games and the 360 has yet to even match them graphically (since graphics seems to be the only lube you're using to force your argument down our throats)

Look at the ps3 and the 360 like this: The 360 is like a bullet and the ps3 is like a cruise missile. Both can be used to kill people but both are used very differently. With a bullet, all you need is a gun since all the parts of a bullet are set in a small area. But with a cruise missile you need multiple factors to fire it because the technology is spread around the device. You can't fire a bullet from a missile silo and vice versa.
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1Victor  +   505d ago
@level up show me a multiplayer online with 32 players on 360........................... .waiting to load. it goes both ways each system got their strong and weak points its up to developers to work them out but you wouldn't know that only a gamer would.
BLU RAY 50 gig=6+ disk switching ,no 7.1 sound also jokes about 360 pictures of PS3 in cut scenes all of those cost extra money to edit out.better wait and hope they do it for next gen
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ALLWRONG  +   505d ago
@1Victor Perfect Dark Zero 2005 has 32 players and Frontline has 50.
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BitbyDeath  +   505d ago
@DOMination-,

I'm pretty sure Ground Zeroes is going to be a nextgen game.

Multiplatform games have never looked that good.

The next Xbox could handle it.
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trouble_bubble  +   505d ago
@allwrong
And MAG has 256 players.

game.set.match
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Consoldtobots  +   505d ago
forget 4 player coop, show me a game with 256 players on 360.

still waiting...........
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Slugg3r  +   506d ago
For your second comment: 360 can't handle the uncompressed audio, would take way too many discs. And the point ain't that 360 couldn't handle something like MGS4, but the thing is, that it was build from ground up for PS3 so the porting isn't propably possible (If there was a way to port it easily, Konami would have done it.
killerhog  +   505d ago
Try resistance 2, 8 player co-op in huge environments bigger than gears of war and 60 player competitive, again bigger than gears of war maps. So it can be done.

I mean if you wanna talk power try MAG 256 player, real-time explosions/events with some destructible environments. Ps3 can handle anything the Xbox 360 can, but can the 360 handle our games? Because so far, nothing in the likes of resistance 1 or 2, MAG, starhawk, killzone etc. is there on the 360 to compete against them.

This goes for what single-player and multi-player has to offer.

Edit:
Also resistance 1 has 4 player split screen local competitive (I believe, been a while since I played it). So yeah gears is possible on the ps3
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DarkHeroZX  +   505d ago
@Lvl_up_gamer

Are you mental? Not only has Sony did 4 player Co-OP but they've also went on to do things like MAG which was 128 vs 128 with pretty good graphics. Stop sucking microsoft's penis dude. There are no 360 games that touch Sony exclusives. Everyone said Halo 4 was going o be up there but it still looks worse then KillZone 2. Gears 3 looks very dated with those shiny wax character models. Forza 3 and 4 are the only game on 360 that can compete with GT5's premium model cars but even then it can't do 16 cars at once lol. And no the 360 cannot run MGS4 not because its weak but because it was programmed for the ps3. Certain task that where deticated specifically for the SPEs on the Cell wouldn't run fluidly on the Xenos as the threads on that chip don't work indepedantly from eachother they work together. The 360 version would need to be built specifically for it's hardware to run.
punisher99  +   505d ago
That was well said. +bubbles
MysticStrummer  +   505d ago
There's nothing in Gears that can't be done on PS3. You can't say it doesn't matter which engine the game is built on and then proceed to rule out a game like Borderlands because it's cell shaded. BL isn't cell shaded by the way, it's a hybrid art style, but that's beside the point. There's no technical reason at all why Gears can't be on PS3. I'd also say there's no technical reason why MGS4 can't be on 360, other than the various ingame PS3 references that exist. The reason for both to remain where they are is entirely legal, as in contractual.
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punisher99  +   505d ago
"Now prove to me that MGS4 can't be done on the 360."

The last time I checked. The 360 didn't have a BD drive. MGS4 is a 35 to 40gb game. How many 40gb games do the 360 even have???

"Show me a PS3 exclusive that has 4 player coop in the main campaign with large playing areas and equally great graphics like Gears of War"

lol Thats easy. The game that was created because of Gears Of War. And that was Resistance 2, which topped Gears 4 player coop with its own 8 player coop.
McLuvn  +   506d ago
would have been 6 discs anyway
sway_z  +   506d ago
Why is it so important for 360 owners to get everything...?

A lot of 360 zealots have done nuthin but slag off the PS3 since day1! ...at it hasn't stopped to date! ...but yet they secretly desire its games?

>Hypocrisy in its finest form lol

Who wants Gears?? lol

Nah....No MGS4 for you ;)
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bubblebeam  +   506d ago
"Hypocrisy in its finest form lol"

You shouldn't have said that, especially considering the follow up sentence.

Not everyone is a fanboy, just a vocal minority on the internet. How many times do you hear random people on PNS or XBL say something bad about the other console? Never, because they are real gamers.

And yes, MGS4 will not be on the 360 due to technical limitations. I couldn't see it being on less than 4 discs, with heavy optimisation. I'd be guessing 6 discs or so.
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SDF Repellent  +   506d ago
I think I would like to see a game like Valkyria Chronicles coming to the X360 instead.

@sway below, I already got the game when it was on sale for $4.99 at the Target store bargain bin 2 years ago for my Phat PS3. Still haven't play it yet though, too huge a backlogs.
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sway_z  +   506d ago
@SDF Repellent '99.9% of x360 owners could care less about MGS4' at this point??

...is that why 99.9% are still holding their breath?

You want it don't you....yeah....you know you do! lulz ;)

Edit...too late Xbox 360 spokesperson...you committed ya'self, no point trying to erase your comment :))

Edit p2..

@Bubblebeam (above)

Follow up what? ...shouldn't have said what?

Make sense dude...and to clarify...most PS3 gamers I know, don't even mention Gears...maybe Halo4 but not Gears... PING!
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Fil101  +   505d ago
what's halo ???
dredgewalker  +   505d ago
A halo is a ring that is a symbol of divinity......or a ring that that turns red when something goes bad.....
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gninja92  +   506d ago
wow. 4 scores and 4 years ago. and this games new version will have nothing new. the online has been permanently offline for months now. and the dlc sucked might i add. as well as how raiden and vamp handled. not to mention the trophies look like they were made the night before they patched them in. the item menus are all still painted yellow. why always yellow. mgs2 had the best color scheme. the annoying ass install and re-nstalls are still gonna be present. and finally no new vr or snake tales missions like mgs2. not even ape escape from mgs 3. wow literally nothign outside of " heres an old game with a new boxart priced at triple wat it normally goes for
Jeff257  +   505d ago
Actually the installs have been streamlined to the beginning of the game. You can now install the full game so that you don't have to between Acts. It isn't just the new version that does that. Since they released the trophy patch you now have that option with the original version as well.
gninja92  +   503d ago
and thats the only new thing? btw boxarts and collectible booklets dont mean anything to me.
SephirothX21  +   506d ago
!
sway_z  +   505d ago
There is a moral to this story ...

The moral is...no matter how deep a corporations pockets ...you just cannot buy your way into the hearts and minds of the gamers nor can you buy up every game/dlc to make yours exclusive!

Hate on Nintendo Wii U/Platinum Games for Bayonetta 2, yet a certain corp. tried to monopolize GTA series and all they could muster was timed DLC exclusives...tut, tut!

*Some will bring up Sony Ps1/Ps2 days of exclusivity...but let's focus on the here and now...the past has gone.

...not every developer/publisher whores their franchise to the highest bidder.

Thank you Kojima/Konami for showing your integrity :)

@KMCROC54

Don't put words in my mouth...this is about integrity, which IMHO is more important than money!

Dude most PS3 gamers (outside of 360) gives a rats crack about Gears...it's a decent game don't get it twisted...but I'll take Uncharted series over Gears any day of the week...Even Cliffy B abandoned the series he was so instrumental in? ...Speaks volumes.

Nice try tho ;)
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KMCROC54  +   505d ago
So you believe this to be an act of loyalty , seriously doubt it .
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Ron_Danger  +   505d ago
There is truth to what Sway said. Look at where SqareEnix is and say integrity (or as you put it, loyalty) don't matter
TronEOL  +   505d ago
Interesting tid-bit:
Metal Gear Solid was never really a Playstation exclusive franchise. Every single Metal Gear Solid was multiplatform except MGS4 (even then, it had an iPhone game released based on MGS4).

Examples:
MGS1 (PS1) - MGS:TS (GC)
MGS2 (PS2) - MGS2:S (Xbox)
MGS3 (PS2) - MGS3 (3DS, Xbox360)
MGS4 (PS3) - MGSTouch (iPhone)
MGSPW(PSP) - MGSPW (Xbox360)

The series wasn't really ever exclusive to any platform. All the games ended up on another platform in one form or another. All it is now is that they'll be releasing them at the same time across all platforms (Rising and Zeroes).

Although there were a few exclusives like Portable Ops/+, and Ac!D. I'm not sure if anyone is complaining about missing out on those tho.
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sdplisken  +   505d ago
MGS1 -not on xbox
MGS4 -not on xbox
MGS portable ops- not on xbox
MG Acids - not on xbox

MGS1 on ps1 is what made the metal gear series popular FACT

MGS is a playstation franchise and the fanbase is on playstation just like final fantasy
skrug  +   505d ago
And where can you get the WHOLE MGS SERIES? Only on Playstation
trouble_bubble  +   505d ago
Portable Ops is canon and the true sequel to MGS3, where Big Boss meets Campbell and Frank Jaeger for the first time, Foxhound is born, Big Boss gets the money to build Outer Heaven, and Ocelot steals back Volgin's philosophers legacy. They show clips of Portable Ops as flashbacks in MGS4. If they're not complaining about missing out, they should be.
KMCROC54  +   505d ago
What a Shame was looking to getting this copy on Xbox so I can have the complete franchise on it, Guess my collection will have to remain in complete. Hopefully the spin-off & Zero are still set to release on 360. Again what a shame.
OldSnakePS3  +   505d ago
wheres MGS1 on xbox?

360 dont even have the best one

how can you say your collection will be complete lol

portable ops as well (psp)
its still part of the story
EverydayGuy  +   505d ago
I thought you guys don't like movie games.
KrimsonKody  +   505d ago
Mmmwwwahahhaahaaa!

(in my Solidus laugh)
strigoi814  +   505d ago
Now im gonna see a ps3 and vita doom article all over again??? i guess fanboys have their hopes up so high again..sorry guys dont worry another halo or gears will comeout soon for your convenience..lolz
blackstrr411  +   505d ago
Well. Duhhh. With the sony marketing in the game there's noway it will come to xbox. The mantis fight asks u to change controllers. So tht will take too much time to edit all the ps stuff in it. Imo. Mgs4 was n is still the best ps3 advert. And I'm tired of swapping my xbox with a friend's ps everytime an Mgs or uncharted come out
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CPTN MITCHELL  +   505d ago
Mgs 4 destroy Mass E1.... XD
KrimsonKody  +   505d ago
I sorry, but as MUCH as I love Kojima & his work, I almost don't feel compelled to get this edition.
The only thing drawing me in is the red in the boxart (I love red!), & the poster is 'meh' cute, & I do like collecting very selective posters, magazine covers & such, but it's almost not worth it this time...

Day 1 release, brought the limited edition (the one in the tin box)
Traded in day 1 release for the GOTY edition (again, I wanted the red case, lol)
The disc, mysteriously, turned up missing...(most likely stolen), so I re'purchased around the time of the trophy patch...
Traded it back once I heard about this edition,
& now, come to find out, there's not much added.
But hey, I still got my red case
=^>

BTW, I'm REALLY hoping that something cool is hidden in this "25th 'anniversary'" edition.
Otherwise, WHY the whole "anniversary" talk?
LOL_WUT  +   505d ago
Maybe next year guys ;)
sdplisken  +   505d ago
Hold it, Snake. Time to change the disc. I know. I know. It's a pain. But you need to swap disc 1 for disc 2. You see the disc labeled 2?

Uhh... No.

Huh? Oh, wait! We're on Playstation 3! It's a Blu-Ray Disc. Dual-layered, too. No need to swap.

Damnit, Otacon! Get a grip!

Yeah, what an age we live in, huh, Snake? Wonder what they'll think of next.
Reverent  +   505d ago
+Well Freaking Said.
SovereignSnaKe  +   505d ago
COME AWWWWNNN ~After 4 years, I want to see how many 360 discs it would actually ship with! Doesn't Lost Odyssey still hold the Title belt with 4 Discs?
PraxxtorCruel  +   505d ago
Is this what all the commotion is about? Just some anniversary edition? Not one bit amused.
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