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Submitted by Chrono 508d ago | news

Nintendo's Fils-Aime: Microsoft, Sony need to react to us

Nintendo of America president Reggie Fils-Aime has some sharp words for Microsoft and Sony: you react to us, not the other way around. Speaking to CNET in a telephone interview today, Fils-Aime brushed off an assertion that the Wii U could be faced with irrelevancy issues if Microsoft and Sony launch their new consoles in the coming year, as expected. (Industry, Microsoft, Next-Gen, Nintendo, PS3, Sony, Wii U, Xbox 360)

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FunAndGun  +   508d ago
uh oh, Reggies' poppin' off again.
nukeitall  +   508d ago
Ironically, Nintendo reacted to MS when they introduced both XBL and the idea of entertainment apps.

Wii has Nintendo Network and support for Youtube, Netflix and so on now.

That said, MS/Sony would be idiots not to react to Nintendo.

Does it matter anyhow?
Blastoise  +   508d ago | Funny
It's just a bit of healthy competition. He's just bigging up his console like he's supposed to.

Look at his face, look at his stupid face. He means no harm
WrAiTh Sp3cTr3  +   508d ago
They reacted to MS for sure and they did it with flying colors, lol. You can now control your television and your television services with gaming console. I'm sure this is something MS wanted to do and even Sony, but it's just Nintendo beat them to the puch and I'm sure newer hardware was the only way to do it.
Donnieboi  +   508d ago | Well said
Xbox Live did not create online gaming. Seriously, where u been all these years--under a rock?

PC & Dreamcast says hi
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Peppino7  +   508d ago
Well its not like he's technically wrong. Each company somehow reacts to the other competitors.
WrAiTh Sp3cTr3  +   508d ago
Donnieboi, where did anyone say that? Stop trolling.
lilbroRx  +   508d ago
That is not a reaction. At least not to MS. Last I checked, apps were an asset of smart phones and Nintendo has been using them since the DSi.

Nintendo already had a network back with the GC. It was only used for one game series at that time though. They used it more for the DS and even more than that for the Wii.
M83_  +   508d ago
I like rocks
Jaces  +   508d ago
@Blastoise: "Look at his face, look at his stupid face. He means no harm"

Ugh, laughed so hard at that. Bubbles mate.
MultiConsoleGamer  +   508d ago
And Microsoft was merely following the trail blazed by Sega.

Also SFCBS and Xband.
daclynk  +   508d ago
why so serious.is it something he said that made you angry.LOL.
that aside i think its bit of healthy competition.he is just sticking up to the rivals(360/PS3) and is good for business and it means more harm.

only delusional people will take it serious.
Hardcore Gaming!!!

LOL.fanboys so lame and dump.
jmc8888  +   508d ago
Not entirely, I read an interview where they were talking about Mii's in the mid-nineties. Which of course isn't Youtube and Netflix, but really Microsoft was just copying the PC on those things, so I wouldn't exactly give them credit for it. Console wise sure, for doing it first, but it's just a different variation of the wheel. Same of course with online gaming via other consoles or PC's.

But I agree, they both react to each other, and it's for the better. Competition, while not the end all be all of progressing things, still is important and provides benefits.

Also while I'd love for the Kinect 2.0 to work,I'm not going to automatically believe that it will work because it has a 2 on the end. I'm sure it'll be better, but it could be better, still not good, because Kinect 1 is pretty horrible. But the hand manipulator looks like a good way to make it much better, and copy Sony's Move in application while getting around it's patents.

Plus the whole behind the scenes information grabbing of the kinect, well it is expanding with the Kinect 2, is pretty alarming. Personally I don't want my gametime to be free marketable data to whoever they want to sell it to...or asks for the information.
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rainslacker  +   508d ago
I understand the need for PR and all that, but really...didn't Jack Tretton just wish Nintendo luck with their new console. Why is Nintendo trying to compete like this? Just do what you do Nintendo, don't get into a pissing contest with your competitors. It will just backfire on you.
Jazz4108  +   508d ago
Pioneers with sea shells and string invented the telephone and Bell perfected it. Dreamcast and a few others started out online and ms perfected it.
pixelsword  +   508d ago
"Microsoft, Sony need to react to us"

They did:

They're called the 360 and PS3.
liquidhalos  +   507d ago
@Blastoise

"It's just a bit of healthy competition. He's just bigging up his console like he's supposed to.

Look at his face, look at his stupid face. He means no harm"

Thats just the funniest thing Ive read in a while. Thanks for the laugh man, im stuck at home nursing broken ribs. I needed that to cheer me up. Everytime i see that picture of him my chest explodes with a painful, crippling yet strangely warming laughter, Thank you for that bud.

And thank you Reggie for that quality picture
Oh_Yeah  +   507d ago
@Donnieboi.. Yeah,except Microsoft and Sega collaborated to make dreamcast.. Remember the little powered by Microsoft ce mark on the front of the dream cast? So technically Microsoft was the first along with Sega to bring online to console. Partially why I got a 360 was the resemblance to dreamcast, they even had some of their team working on it.. http://www.1up.com/features...
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darkride66  +   508d ago
"faster processors and pretty pictures won't be enough to motivate consumers"

It'll be enough to motivate gamers though. Nintendo hit it out of the park with the Wii, but rather at the expense of people who were playing games before.

As a gamer, I like innovation. I appreciate it when new things are tried but mostly what I want is the genres I already love, but better, and that's what will get me to sign up to the next gen. Not waving a controller through the air or sitting with a bulky, pad device in my lap.

But I'm a gamer. I'm not the casual that Nintendo was targeting with the Wii. I'm the guy who bought the Wii and said "Wtf? This looks like ass on my HDTV. Do I have to point this controller at the screen the entire time I'm playing? Why am I waving this around? Waggle is not the new button press."

Sure MS and Sony tried to appeal to casuals with their own motion control, but if Nintendo doesn't have to react to their competition, what's with the pro-gaming controller? Isn't that a step backwards, Reggie? Isn't that an admission that you lost the audience that Sony and Microsoft happily catered to, and you're trying to rectify that mistake? It's rather an arrogant statement to make considering that everyone is watching what everyone else is doing.
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Stroke666  +   508d ago
Not really the had a pad as well, the classic controller, so the addition of the po controller is nintendi following their own footsteps again not a response to anything other than the understanding that some people may want to play "normally". I too am a gamer and though admittedly nintendo did neglect certain genres last gen this gen they r making that up. Already the have ports for the so called hardcore. They r getting bagged on for their pots but the ports I believe r just to show the content they are willing to have and going to have on their console. I think a lot of people are setting themselves up for disappointment thinking ps360 will have a great increase in graphical capability. They will surpass their predecessors but certainly not vastly. With money being an issue for everyone more than likely msony will be reacting to nintendo.
Abdou23  +   508d ago
You can't call yourself " Gamer " if you bash a major and successful company and don't accept innovations. Real gamer will find benefit in every platform.
lilbroRx  +   508d ago
You ever hear of the classic controller? Its been there since the Wii released. The Pro controller is just the another redesign.

Its no more a response to any BS released by Microsoft and Sony than it was 6 years ago. Its just a Super Nintendo controller with functionality added from the Gamecube controller. Nintendo redesigned it to the Classic Controller Pro which look more like the GC controller. The Wii U was actually using the Classic Controller Pro(pictured in dev kits) until Nintendo decided to give it a new look again for the new console.

Its the exact same controller only with the button layout made like the Upad with the analogs both up top.

There will likely be another redesign of it in the future. It does not nor has it ever had anything to do with responding to Microsoft/Sony.

It is used in the same way it was initially to made to be used. That is to play games that still rely on the outdated pure button pressing control style.
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yeahokchief  +   507d ago
you have my agree.

down with nintendo.
CDzNutts  +   507d ago
There are more casuals than there are gamers. To be profitable, one must sell to a majority.

See where I'm going with this?
StanSmith  +   508d ago
This is cringeworthy! I know it's PR and he's trying to sell the WiiU, but still...

Nintendo, please learn from Sony circa 2005. Their cockyness did not go over well with anyone. They were taught a lesson by gamers to not act bigger than they are. The same could happen to you.
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Nintendo reacted to the fact that casual gamers shifted over to apple products and android tablets?. Oh no of course the new controller is mostly for core gaming right? who knows.
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AJBACK2FRAG  +   508d ago
He should be saying, "F' you Sony F' you Microsoft. You don't know s' about making beautiful games that actually provides gamers fun emotional content. We do. Nintendo is in the process of releasing a home video game console that provides gamers with incredible hd graphics an amazing brand new online structure that also interacts with the home entertainment center in ways that your companies haven't even thought of and Sony your in the t.v. business. We're really almost not even in the same business.
Good luck! Nothing wrong with silver! Oh yeah. The PS3 has just caught up to the 360 both now at seventy million units per. Nintendo has just performed an amazing feat! With two Game Cubes duct taped together Nintendo proved that Microsoft and Sony are both in second place and by second place I mean second class. Have fun stealing everything Nintendo has ever invented or even thought of."
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IRetrouk  +   508d ago
So what about alan wake or ico and sotc?, what about heavy rain?, how about all of the arcade games from both ms and sony, theres some great original games there too. So far this gen each company has done something diffrent but keep the good games coming, some more than others but they have all done well enough this gen, now nintendo has shown its hand i hope we hear some legit rumors about the other two
jivah  +   508d ago
you people must have forgot about or may be too young to know.. but xband was back in 94. hook it up to ya genesis or your snes and you was able to play other people via dialup. there are probably some videos out there to look up if interested
CDzNutts  +   507d ago
LMAO. These youngin's don't know! I was 9 years old when I bought my Genesis. Never had xband, but I remember it.
fermcr  +   507d ago
Don't know if WiiU will succeed or not (probably will)... but in all honesty i have no interest in purchasing one any time soon.

As for Reggie, he's only protecting his interests. Don't bash the guy. Every CEO of big companies lie now and then.
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harrisk954  +   507d ago
Yeah... Reggie is popping off again... but, why does Sony get accused of "arrogance" when they make comments and Nintendo gets a pass -- 'Oh, it's just Reggie'...
Syntax-Error  +   507d ago
Donnieboi..
In case you didn't know, Dreamcast was powered by Windows CE, so yes Microsoft was the first to unveil online gaming. They already stated that was their motive to begin with. Why do you think the Xbox was released with ethernet support and not a dial up connection.
Godchild1020  +   508d ago
Am I the only one thinking Reggie is becoming the Cliff Bleszinski & David Jaffe of Nintendo?
NexGen  +   508d ago
The Peter Molyneux*
Donnieboi  +   508d ago
Yeah just like Molyneux, because he talks trash, inflates his own opinion of himself, and his products never quite deliver.
vortis  +   508d ago
No he's not Molyneux yet. That guy fails and Nintendo hasn't failed yet, they're doing quite well and trolling while doing it, so Godchild1020 is right...he's more like Cliffy B.

David Jaffe always runs his mouth BEFORE his stuff is successful. Cliffy B. runs his mouth AFTER his stuff is successful. So yeah, I'd say Reggie A. is Nintendo's Cliffy B.
Gamesgbkiller  +   508d ago
no ... too far from jaffe
Knight_Crawler  +   508d ago
The Crazy Kaz...next gen does not start until w say so.
daclynk  +   508d ago
Really Next Gen.

Assuming in Power,Graphics and physics,Next Gen started on PC years ago.

But on Control and Interreaction has started on Wii U.which lunched days ago.

so ya Next Gen has started already not till you say so.

Fanboys so delusional.
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N4realGMRZ  +   508d ago
@ daclynk, please tell us how does the Wii U a next Gen in interaction? how? please explain........i have been here about this tablet like controller without multi touch....tell me and explain how it introduces something Tablets have not been doing for years....also explain how having a second screen that u have to take your eyes of of a primary screen to look at not the same as pressing the "pause" button. Please go ahead...explain the innovation to me...and im not being sarcastic im dead serious......
scissor_runner  +   507d ago
Tablet vr. The motion control is that good that it becomes augmented. Gpgpu and a blue ray drive faster than sonys. 4 to five different control style in the very beginning. Hey but we are here to bash Reggie so stay on topic. Truth is Sony has a gpgpu and ms is going kinect 2.0. They need to show some thing. I'd rather get gow 3 On the ps4. Ms well I like their surface, we need an Xbox surface!

The card company is calling their bluff while showing their weakest hand. Every one knows s
Smash is coming, Zelda might actualy be fun again, but a last story or xenoblade are going to be drop dead gorgious. Galaxy is going to be rediculious. Mario kart is going to be epic. Imagine a wave race where you can race in the perfect storm! F zero, metriod, star fox, bayonnetta2, I don't know. The others guys better start the hype machine up soon. The wiiu hype train has not even started and we are getting big numbers.

I wouldn't mind if the wiiu did sell, it didn't make me like the neo geo any less or the lynx.

Is it possible nintendo is hinting at an out side compititor. If apple where to step in we could get new consoles every two years attached to cell phone like plans which would make online payment meaningful again. I'll admit I'd pay for online if it included the wireless plan with it. Could this be coming?
sal77  +   508d ago
okay I'm listing
tachy0n  +   508d ago
nice to meet you listing :D
Sp1d3ynut  +   508d ago
Numerically? Alphabetically? Chronologically? And what exactly are you listing? C'mon man, we need more info....don't just tease us, and leave! Your list has GOT to be more interesting than anything coming out of Reggie Feels-Boys' mouth.
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morkendo23  +   508d ago
Nintendo , would have no worries if reggie open backlog of SNES portfolio . this could be massive slougter for MS / Sony.
bubblebeam  +   508d ago
Lol I can only imagine what you meant by "slougter".
F***ing (non-existent) word of the day.
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scissor_runner  +   507d ago
Massive dramatic sloughter! You know a game like that might actualy sell! MDS!!!

I wonder if Sony could pull off not releasing a system this gen? They have the fanbase. They have a vr headset that I would love to buy.

Really many gamers are too young to remember the snes though. Vc games have lots of legal issues it seems. Many of these company's are gone now. MS killed a large portion of them lol. Sony helped by killing pc gaming with the ps2!

I mean hell we don't even have arcades any more.
PirateThom  +   508d ago
Yes. Ruin next gen with gimmicky controllers, poor online implimentation and hardware that is not even close to being future proof.
deafdani  +   508d ago
The gamepad is superb, the online structure in Wii U is amazing, and a definite setp-up from Live and PSN in many ways. Regarding the hardware, your guess is as good as mine ATM.
extermin8or  +   508d ago
because the architecture the wii u is using is ancient and it's cpu is apparently going to cause devs issues in the future with things like playercounts in online games etc I can't see DICE not knowing what they are talking about in that department I mean look at frostbite 2 that's programming brilliance; how well it seems to optimise for so many different consoles of different specs-even runs on the vita.... yet looks brilliant on a top spec PC, and they've been doing large scale online maps and player counts in their games since forever.... the pad is ok but not as comfortable for using the sticks as a standard controller, and the nintendo online network I can't say anything about as I haven't used it but playstation plus is likely to ensure I stay with sony tbh
Cueil  +   508d ago
it's easy to walk the path that other have beat down for you... rumor is that some guys who helped setup the update for XBL helped Nintendo with their network
Da One  +   508d ago
"setp-up from Live and PSN in many ways"

LOL....I own a wii-u, and you sir are stretching it.
Rainstorm81  +   508d ago
I agree Da One.... I also have the Wii U, while the message board/facebook/twitter aspect of the Miiverse is nice but to compare it to PSN or XBL is a bit much...... I will say that the Wii U easily has the best web browser of the 3 (posted from the Wiipad)
jbgamer  +   508d ago
How do you know if the hardware is outdated? For 1 thing we have not seen what the wii u can do yet. And go to ign they show how the 720, and ps4 are only gonna be a little more powerful so yeah. You better brace yourself the 720, and ps4 fans are gonna be in for a big shock, and let down pretty bad.
Qrphe  +   508d ago
Wii U's GPU is based off a low-end GPU from two years ago. However EVERY console is automatically outdated on release regardless.
Rainstorm81  +   508d ago
Nothing has been unveiled officially for the PS4 or 720.... IGN is guessing at best..... Let be realistic, no one knew the Wii U specs til near release, so No One but MS and Sony know the spec for their future hardware
GodHandDee  +   507d ago
If you have seen any of the 'rumors' IGN has put forth about the vita hardware you will know better and will not trust IGN as a source. And from the look of it so far both the next PS and Xbox won't have to do much to be more powerful than the wiiu. At this point it feels more like wishful thinking by Nintendo fans.
The_Infected  +   508d ago
Sorry to tell you but the "free" Nintendo Network is amazing. The gamepad is awesome also.
AJBACK2FRAG  +   508d ago
Sweet! I can not wait until Christmas morning! Black Ops2 will be getting a new resident! Count me in!
Deku-Johnny  +   508d ago
Yes, who needs the innovation that Nintendo is offering when you can just have a bigger CPU and sharper images. That's what the next is truly about right?
PopRocks359  +   508d ago
"Gimmicky controllers"

Ah, this tired argument again. You mean a controller that functions similarly to the Vita? Which no one seems to view as gimmicky? Despite having motion control, a camera and not one, but two touch screens?
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Rainstorm81  +   508d ago
Bad comparison, Vita is a handheld console, the Wii U gamepad is a controller, that can barely leave the room the Wii U console is in without losing functionality.

BTW i own both the Wii U and PS Vita
PopRocks359  +   508d ago
One of the reasons people told me a Wii U is no good is because the Vita can emulate its two screen functionality which a PS3 (you know, another home console) is required for. And as I said, they both have similar features; motion control, a camera and touchscreens.

The comparison is 100% fair.
AJBACK2FRAG  +   508d ago
Hell yeah!!!
jbgamer  +   507d ago
The vita is a rip off of the ds, and tell me can the vita do the things like zombiu? Or nintendo land? No so nice company line :)
nerdkiller  +   508d ago
@piratethom: come on be realistic i love sony but you know damn well if the wii u does great, sony and msoft are going to come out with a control like the wii u. then youll say its much better then wiiu
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WiiUsauce  +   508d ago
I absolutely love that on the Wii U, devs can choose to support motion controls, traditional controls, and touch controls, or combine all three any way they want. it gives the player options, and is in no way a gimmick. I like playing shooters with the Wiimote and nunchuck, but sometimes I wanna lay down, so I got the controller pro, and the Wii U pad for when I wanna take a dump, but keep on playing COD. I cant do that with my Xbox, and that's why I love my Wii U so far.

and I have no clue what you're talking about, the Wii U has an awesome online community and online infrastructure. you don't own one to claim the online sucks when it clearly is awesome.

just wait til you see games that take full advantage of the hardware. maybe it will be a Nintendo developed game or maybe it will be a third party game. either way, you'll be proven wrong.
cervantes99  +   508d ago
I love Reggie and Jack Tretton. They are just likable guys in an industry populated by hipster clowns.
WildStyles  +   508d ago
Dat arrogance.
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LOGICWINS  +   508d ago
MS/Sony isn't worried about Nintendo. Different audiences.
dboyc310  +   508d ago
Yea I recall Jack stating that Nintendo was running their own generation separate. Microsoft and Sony cater to the same audience so I doubt they are worried about the wii u.
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nerdkiller  +   508d ago
you're right logicwins theres room for all three. sadly fanboys dont think so
WiiUsauce  +   507d ago
yup. each console offers unique experiences you can't get anywhere else. I mainly own my 360 for Halo, my PS3 for Sony exclusives, and my Wii U for Nintendo franchises. but that doesn't mean you don't also get some really awesome gems with each console too like Zack and Wiki, Yakuza, and Lost Odyssey, ect. in my opiniom, you cannot call yourself a hardcore gamer and only game exclusively on one console.
MasterCratosKong66  +   508d ago
different and overlapping audiences
AngelicIceDiamond  +   508d ago
Sorry Reggie but at the moment your not a real "threat" to Sony and MS.

There's a massive install base with PS360. Your starting this gen incredibly late with 3rd party software that people already baought on PS360.

They would be a threat at this moment if they released A Kid Icarus game, a new Metroid, Kirby, Donkey Kong, and the legendary Super Smash Bros next gen Zelda and new Super Mario Galaxy.

People don't wanna buy the Wii U for Cod and s bunch of third party games people have beatin 5x on PS360.

But look, all power to Nintendo next year should be a great year for them but I will say this. Nintendo, you won't like what you see when PS4 and 720 get released. Be careful what you wish for, just saying.
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deafdani  +   508d ago
Good points, but those heavy Nintendo games you talking about? I think Nintendo is holding them back precisely for when Microsoft and Sony announce their next consoles. :P
extermin8or  +   508d ago
and if the next consoles are considerably more powerful/full of features and release with their own exclusives so halo for microsoft and whatever assortment of games sonys 1st party can pull out of the hat, new ips included then that list of nintendo "heavys" may suddenly seem not so heavy; especially if the step is big enough just big enough to make it a pain to port games to the wii u from the other 2 consoles....
rainslacker  +   508d ago
I agree with you. But new console announcements and releases usually trump big IP releases in the news. Those IP's will do well regardless, as they always have. Thing is, both Sony and MS have big names like that as well, and I could see them pulling out a big gun to announce along with the system. The cost of the Wii U come PS4/720 time will be it's best marketing tool, as it will likely be the lowest next gen system on the market, and while we on here will argue on it's next gen merit, the average consumer just isn't clued into that kind of thing.

How it all plays out is going to be very interesting, probably the most interesting since the SNES/Genesis days, especially with the online variable
Drainage  +   508d ago
lmao cmon now, its called Playstation Move/ Playstation All Stars/LBP Karting. This is real, only non-delusional fanboys can see it. Theyve already reacted and will continue to react. Nintendo is a threat.

Why do people talk about 3rd party games that released a week earlier on the Ps3/360? 1 Week ago? I think this is yet another Sony-Drone type response. ASSCREED3 is a new game that people havent beat yet. Rayman is exclusive, Zombiu exclusive, Bayoneta2 exclusive, .....so what are you talking about Darksiders? like 3 old games and this is only year 1.....which is about to end.

Good luck Sony, your Vita is killed by the Nintendo 3DS but there is still hope for the ps4.

Sony is Lucky nintendo didnt go crazy with their graphics...
raWfodog  +   508d ago
Well, he's the president so of course he's going to talk up his company. It wouldn't look right if he said "we're playing catch-up with the other two".
maniacmayhem  +   508d ago
Well to be honest both Sony and MS reacted to the enormous success of the Wii's motion controls and domination of the casual crowd.

If the WiiU's second screen controller proves to be a success with 3rd party devs then I can definitely see MS and Sony following in the footsteps unless the PS4 and NXbox cones with a screen controller standard on release.

"launching new systems is about bringing new consumer experiences to the marketplace and we're doing that with Nintendo land and third-party publishers are doing it with games like ZombiU"

Unfortunately this isn't new to anyone since both those games can find an equivalent on both the 360 and Ps3 in one way or another. The Wii missed out on a lot of great 3rd party titles that have found a core audience on 360/Ps3. Getting those guys to switch to your system is going to be the true challenge.
zebramocha  +   508d ago
@maniac that's not entirely true because Sony & Ms both had motion type devices on their consoles with the eyetoy- ps eye & xbox vision cam,I don't think it was a reaction but more of a prioritization .

But the eyetoy was marketed for casual gamers as for the ps eye I believe it's focus was to have a broader appeal than just serving casuals.
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maniacmayhem  +   508d ago
They both had motion type peripherals but it was a never a focus or marketed to the casual. Which Nintendo did and became successful.

It was definitely a reaction.
Jinkies  +   508d ago
@maniacmayhem

Not really, it was more like a

"Oh...people are interested in motion controls, well how about that, lets focus on our gimmicks a little more to get involved in this market"

As zebramocha has said above, Sony already had the eyetoy and what we've heard before on here, had the PS Move in development before the Wii came out. They just saw it was a hit and decided to put a focus on it more since they knew it had already been tested on consumers thanks to Nintendo and knew it would sell well.
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maniacmayhem  +   508d ago
@ Jinkies

"Oh...people are interested in motion controls, well how about that, lets focus on our gimmicks a little more to get involved in this market"

How is that not a "reaction". I'm pretty sure that defines reaction.

"had the PS Move in development before the Wii came out."

And you don't think that Nintendo had the Wii in development also? I mean there had to of been R & D on both sides. Just because there was a youtube video of Sony toying with the idea before the Wii came out doens't mean that Nintendo wasn't doing the same. And Nintendo went with it and brought it to the masses first which is really what matters.

"They just saw it was a hit and decided to put a focus on it more since they knew it had already been tested on consumers thanks to Nintendo and knew it would sell well."

Which is a reaction, if I'm not mistaken. There prioritization as Zebra put it was a direct reaction to the success of the Nintendo.

And let me clarify that this is also true for MS/360. (I have to be clear about this due to some recent posts)

@ millzy102
I guess, not really sure what your point is but yes. I guess you meant for the people who buy multiple consoles. I don't see to many people doing this if ever unless you were a hardcore gamer. And I can definitely not see this for next gen. I myself have all three systems but for this next gen I will be sticking to one....maybe two.
DigitalRaptor  +   508d ago
@ maniacmayhem
"And Nintendo went with it and brought it to the masses first which is really what matters."

What I don't get, is that Nintendo were so quick to ditch the Wiimote's waggle for the tablet controller. I mean you have design principles and have Reggie going all out to tell your audience why it's such a great vision for your company, but then by the time the next generation comes along, the waggle support just goes out the window.

So was the Wiimote a gimmick or what? You say that Nintendo brought it to market first and made something of it in the industry, but that's only worth something if you follow that idea longer than you need to just sell consoles. Where I think the difference lies is that Sony were cautious to release their product first, and always envisioned what was released as Move in 2010. Now that it's 2012 going into 2013 (and a new gen), the Move support is getting stronger and more important for Sony and more relevant for gamers. See: Wonderbook, Until Dawn, Beyond: Two Souls, Portal 2, BioShock Infinite, other third party games and more going into what will no doubt be strong Move support for PS4. Notice that they dropped EyeToy -> EyeToy evolved into PlayStation Eye -> evolved into PS Move -> continues to evolve. It's basically an evolving vision.

Likewise, Nintendo released their tablet/big screen interaction before (sort of) Sony, even though Vita/PS3 interaction was in the works @ Sony before the Wii U was announced. Sounds familiar, right?

But Sony will be labelled the copycat yet again, when the mass media catches on to what Sony is doing with this cross-console interaction. Mark my word. Nintendo might be the ones making the brave, new moves and spurring the industry on, but Sony look to be the ones sticking it through with the tech and the vision.
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CaptainN  +   508d ago
I love how people bring up the Eyetoy as if Sony was the one who came up with using a camera for gaming. The Game Boy Camera says hi !!!!

And as for those who claim Sony had motion controls in the works long before Nintendo, the reality is that the Wii Remote was also in development for a very long time and was originally supposed to be an add on for the Gamecube. So stop with the BS already. Every company experiments with ideas, it all comes down to who implements them first and makes them mainstream. And Nintendo is the company that's does that the most, be it Shoulder buttons,Rumble,Joysticks, Motion controls,Dual screens,wireless,cameras,3D gaming etc.
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scissor_runner  +   507d ago
Play the wiiu game pad and tell me it isn't the wiimote on steroids! It has the best gyro sensors on the market right now.

So they didn't abandon it they expanded it.
millzy102  +   508d ago
its not a switch I own a ps3 and had 360 in the past but 5 redlighted so stayed with ps3 had a Wii for a few games and getting a Wii u but by no means am I switching I play all consoles and handhelds a Wii u is an addition to my games collection along with ps4 when it comes, maybe xbox if they get there shit together but my point is why do people think its always about switching what you play rather than opening up your experience.
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joeorc  +   508d ago
@CaptainN
"And as for those who claim Sony had motion controls in the works long before Nintendo, the reality is that the Wii Remote was also in development for a very long time and was originally supposed to be an add on for the Gamecube. So stop with the BS already."

1st of all just like the power glove, Nintendo did not develop it, and again with the Wiimote, it was made and brought to Nintendo, thus they licenced other's created technology.

that is 100% true factual what i just posted, and Unless Nintendo had a freaking time machine the people that designed the WiiMote went to Nintendo in 2001, while Sony had their Idea because DR. marks who was just signed on at sony at the time develloped the eye toy already had the core basics for a "Wand" controller design back working with they eye toy @ siggraph 2000! convention they showed the freaking thing already working in front of people at the convention. working on a playstation 2 a year thats again a freaking year even before nintendo was given a demonstration of the wiimote in 2001.

one of the reasons Sony could not release the Move because of the cost of components inside it. back in 2006 the cost of the move controller set up would have been 399.00 for a move, the move directional controller+ an EYETOY thats right the cost of components would have been almost as much as the d@mn PS3!

imagine 599.00+$399.00 for your freaking set up. people cryed and cryed about the PS3 was so expensive if you added move they would have really been crying than..LMAO

Sony had to wait, Even Nintendo had to cut out Motion Plus from the wiimote it would have added another $15.00 to each unit of wiimote back in 2006, Microsoft had to wait for the prime sense 3D camera technology to lower in cost before they could release Kinect.

look at the trends in gaming going forward. a mobile device for gaming connected to a central Hub for the living room, was created and innovated by Nintendo? do not thank so, Apple i pad, android Devices connected to TV's, surface connected to tv's PSP connected to the PS3 for remote access.

notice a freaking theme here. what many see as a innovation is a trend these companies all know what direction each other is going in, they all go to the same d@mn trade shows, some one always get's it out first that does not mean they innovated the d@mn technology and everone else automaticaly copy's their ideas!
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extermin8or  +   508d ago
sony are sort of already doing the dual screen thing on certain games via vita and had always planned too from it's announcement...
Cueil  +   508d ago
to be fair the Kinect was in development years before the Wii came out in the Research department
joeorc  +   508d ago
@gCueil
I do not know why you got a disagree, because what you said about the ED prime sense technology was infact before the wii was even created, hell DR. marks over @ Sony mentioned he was looking at 3D technology depth perception camera technology back in 2000!

Microsoft was also, the d@mn techology was quite expensive back then. could you imagine the cost of kinect back in 2005?

try adding d@mn near $500.00 to the cost of the xbox360 set up for that technology of kinect back then.
dboyc310  +   508d ago
Wii u's second screen wont prove successful with 3rd party developers just like the wii mote wasn't this gen. If you tell me it's Nintendo's fault for alienating itself with gimmicks that only they think is useful.
TacoTaru  +   508d ago
I never liked the motion controls but the Wii U's tablet is a different story. Unless you are a fps limited gamer you will love what can be done with the pad. I'm sure most of the people who say that second screen isn't great haven't actually used it. RPG gamers will love it.
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ylwzx3  +   508d ago
And you know this how?
MariaHelFutura  +   508d ago
They should probably just worry about on ironing out some of the issues w/ the Wii U. MS and Sony are going to try to make your system appear to be super outdated and obsolete, I can promise you that. If they succeed or not, is the question.
deafdani  +   508d ago
"Nintendo of America president Reggie Fils-Aime has some sharp words for Microsoft and Sony: you react to us, not the other way around."

Nice spin, but that's not what he said. He merely said that Sony and Microsoft need to react to Nintendo's own Wii U console, and that's true. They never said Nintendo doesn't react to Sony and Microsoft, because that would be a stupid statement to make, considering Wii U now has a online community, user ID's, HD graphics, etc, which are all reactions to what Sony and Microsoft already offer.

However, I'm not sure if Reggie is right regarding that statement that "It's likely that faster processors and pretty pictures won't be enough to motivate consumers".

Maybe, maybe not. Consumers were definitely motivated with faster processors and prettier pictures with the Xbox 360 and PS3, so I don't know why that couldn't happen again with their sucessors (assuming, of course, that they show a giant leap in power over the Wii U; this is a matter of waiting to see what happens).
dredgewalker  +   508d ago
Faster processors and pretty pictures do count a lot specially when they are in the hands of talented devs.
knocknock  +   508d ago
Why say such things...it's just asking for it. I'd rather the Market remain varied, no need to provoke the compertion.
NYC_Gamer  +   508d ago
Sony and MS aren't worried Nintendo because they appeal to different crowds
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Eldyraen  +   508d ago
I'll give Nintendo credit where credit is due--at least they didn't drag out Wii's lifespan as much compared to 360/PS3. Then again, its not that impressive of a jump either but at least its a little less casual centric as the Wii so they're trying.

I kind of like the idea of not requiring the use of the tv screen to play as well but as I'm not in any position where that effects me so it is rather moot. Still, for families that is a pretty sweet option where someone can game and others watch tv.

I'm more interested in a new Xbox or PS but I might pick up a Nintendo console again at some point which I haven't done in a while (probably not till Zelda or something along those lines).
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UnHoly_One  +   508d ago
This guy is losing his mind.
giancarmen  +   508d ago
I am glad he is saying this. For all the doom that Nintendo gets it seems like from almost everyone. Way to go Reggie.
Nodoze  +   508d ago
Look I support Nintendo but this guy needs to STFU. He is absolutely dillusional. If he thinks that WiiU is going to be even half as successful as the Wii he needs to put down the medical marijuana and start living in reality.
Sarobi  +   508d ago | Funny
(Meanwhile at Sony)
Kaz:.. My Sony-Senses are tingly... Reggie must be gloating
Jack: I'll prepare for E3
KMCROC  +   508d ago
That was to funny +10 + Bubble.
wiiulee  +   508d ago
im sure microsoft and sony are already reacting...copying the wiiu gamepad and partly the wiiu hardware too...so they can bring up their systems and cause wiiu haters, their fanboys to do a flip flop and now embrace gamepads and other nintendo innovations on their new systems
BitbyDeath  +   508d ago
Would be the worst console gen ever if all 3 had tablet controllers.
AllroundGamer  +   508d ago
you can see the full retardation in Reggies eyes...
ozzywazzy  +   508d ago
hmm true, true. He just has that type of obnoxious face..
FATAL1TY  +   508d ago
Wii U = OLD GEN
mav805  +   508d ago
The Wii U is an underpowered system with a gimmick as it's primary innovation. While the new gamepad may be used in some interesting ways on first party games, there isn't a third party developer around that is going to make any worthwhile innovations or changes to take advantage of the gamepad on a multiplatform title.

Couple that with the fact that the next Xbox and PS are likely to be at least 2 times more powerful than the Wii U and I see it sitting in the corner collecting dust just like Nintendo's last generation console.
rataranian  +   508d ago
All of Nintendo products have been pretty much underpowered systems with gimmicks when you think about it.
IRetrouk  +   508d ago
Nope n64 more power full than playstation and saturn, gamecube more powerfull than ps2.
BananaEatingSquid  +   508d ago
I look at comments like "He's losing his mind," and then look at Reggie's face... that smile.... I can't help but burst out laughing.
KMCROC  +   508d ago
@donnieboi They just made it better & acknowledge those that ventured before them. It's certain fan-boys that just don't research before they type.
HalfNerdHalfAmazing  +   508d ago
I always been the type to owned two consoles SNES/genesis ps1/n64 ps2/GameCube Wii/Xbox360 and ever since I bought my Wii u I forgot about my Xbox I really do feel the Wii u is next gen the gamepad is a game changer and as far graphics goes I don't know why ppl complaining the ps3 early games didn't look this good I feel like sky is the limit when it comes to the Wii u graphics yea the next Xbox and ps4 will be more powerful but I don't think ppl is ready to spend $500 on a console and $80 for a game.
smashcrashbash  +   508d ago
What do they have to react too? Nintendo finally getting their heads out of the sand and making a decent console and doing what they should have done with the Wii years ago? Sony and Microsoft reaction was probably 'Dude,what the hell took you so long to get here?'
Deku-Johnny  +   508d ago
They made a decent console with the Wii, just because it wasn't HD doesn't mean it wasn't decent. Would you say the same thing about Sony/MS if the PS3/360 weren't HD?
Hicken  +   508d ago
Third party developers would disagree. To them "decent" is being generous to the Wii.

The fact of the matter is that the PS3/360 ARE HD. They at least pushed a few technological envelopes, while the Wii played it safe.
thaimasker  +   508d ago
What took them so long? prob because they were too busy selling 30 mil more wii's than ps3's and 360's and much more software and handhelds...pretty much dominating the generation.
smashcrashbash  +   508d ago
Nice excuse. Typical.They were too busy to get with the program? What the hell does that even mean? Is that some attempt to be clever?
Imalwaysright  +   508d ago
As a gamer i really dont give a shit about that. Imo the Wii was even worst than the GC wich i didnt thought it was possible.
razor76  +   508d ago
Don't forget sony has been working on using the psp as a controller for the PS3 way before nintendo with the Wii U .The PSV even more with PS4 so then everyone will cry,sony is copying!! Bull---t,sony is gunna let you use the PSV as an extention / controller to expand your gaming experince on the go ,and at home! So while I think I would like to have all the next gen systems, Sony will be my safest bet for my taste , and if microsoft stop charging for services that should be free I would pick the up 720!
razor76  +   508d ago
So no one would like to debate / comment on my opinions on my two posts?! What makes to much sense to argue with huh fanboys/Sony haters?????!!!!!!
Deku-Johnny  +   508d ago
Ha, next you'll be saying they were working on the Move before the Wii came out.
razor76  +   508d ago
well I don't know if they had it before Nintendo was developing the Wii but there are videos out that show it before the release of the Wii,so I do not know about that ,but there engineers are all way's working on crazy shit we don't always get to see so prove it wrong!
akaakaaka  +   508d ago
There is prove of this to, ps move is old I think 2001where the first prototype.
Wow most of this kids just start gaming or something?

In the end it does not metter, they are al gimmick and ruin the true experience unless is fully made for it.
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Imalwaysright  +   508d ago
Im sick and tired of people assuming that Nintendo invented motion controllers and that Sony copied them. Motion sensor controllers have been around since 1981. Both Sony AND Nintendo copied the concept.

http://classicgames.about.c...
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joeorc  +   506d ago
u better read my post above
Because they were infact working on move a full year over before once again Nintendo did not even develop the Wiimote, another company pitched the idea once again like the power glove and Nintendo licenced it. 100% the truth. Nintendo licenced it their first demonstration of this technology to Nintendo was on a projector in 2001 to Nintendo they did not even have the real controler produced yet. While in 2000 at a convention Sony R&D dr. Marks showed off the move concept with a wand type of controller concept working than at the time with the PS2. So yes they infact did.
millzy102  +   508d ago
psvita and ps orbis should work together the clue is in the names but how many people will have 400$ for the new psorbis plus 150$ for vita (assuming price cut and it is still on the market) that's 550$ for the same experience as the Wii u, I have a vita so in halfway there but if every sony fanboy who praises the vita and ps3/ps4 connectivity actually brought a psvita in the first place Sony wouldn't be in a much shit as they are now.
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