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Submitted by Invert-On 754d ago | opinion piece

Devil May Cry, Fans May Too: Community Reaction to DmC

The upcoming entry in the Devil May Cry series is a little controversial. If by "little" we mean "widely" and by "controversial" we mean "hated". But why? Hint: it involves the hair, the smoking, the clothing, the environme-actually just read the thing. (DmC: Devil May Cry, PS3, Xbox 360)

blue55  +   755d ago
I approve of this
Yi-Long  +   754d ago
Never played Devil May Cry before....
... tried the DMC-demo last friday, and really liked the gameplay.

The main problem many Devil May Cry people seem to have is that it's just not 'Devil May Cry', which is probably a fair complaint, and perhaps they shouldn't have called this guy Dante, or should have made it a completely original IP instead...

... but for me, who isn't familiar with the series, I thought the demo was very entertaining, gameplay felt good, graphics are good, and it seems like it will be a decent game at least.
Hanso  +   754d ago
game is good but not DMC good
as a newcomer you ll enjoy it but DMC 3 and 4 are much better combat wise.
Baka-akaB  +   754d ago
That's ll i'm going to bother to say and agree with , as i went on and ranted enough about it .

It's an ok game all thing considered , just not good enough for DMC (and yes even accounting a misstep like dmc2)
humbleopinion  +   754d ago
Game demo was excellent, and way better than the sour taste the DMC4 demo left this Gen.

Not to mention Capcom lost Mikami to Platinum at the end of last gen, with Bayonetta being the proper H&S for people who like a challenging game. NT have much more experience this gen crafting quality H&S games this gen than Capcom.
DragonKnight  +   754d ago
@humbleopinion: No they don't. They made Heavenly Sword and Enslaved. Enslaved is only H&S in terms of button mashing and was lazy. Heavenly Sword was a decent game, but the combat left a lot to be desired. NT's strengths are story telling only, and even then there are better devs than them.

DmC is a bastardization of a beloved franchise. The article was right when it said Capcom was looking to use a cashcow they hadn't used in a while.

I know I'm not the only one that wants an Onimusha game, but judging at how Crapcom has handled its beloved franchises, they are the last people who should touch Onimusha. Onimusha should stay gone simply because Capcom owns it.
OmegaSlayer  +   753d ago
Like other said, from what you can dry the demo the game is very good, above average, just not Devil May Cry good.
You should do yourself a favour and play Devil May Cry 1 and 3
humbleopinion  +   753d ago
Funny how people call something "devil may cry good" when only referring to Devil May Cry 1 and 3 , but completely ignoring 2 (especially) and 4.

I loved the demo. I also loved DMC games in past gen - but my standards were much lower back then and a lot of progress in H&S games was made since.
In my opinion when comparing current gen games, DMC4 lags behind both HS and Enslaved - not to mention Bayonetta which is at a class of its own. The new DMC demo is also not Bayonetta, but it does fill much more competent than Capcom's previous attempt this gen.
d0nT wOrrY  +   754d ago
Creative headline, lool
Chucky2003  +   754d ago
great 500 fans are pissed because they are going in another direction with this game,boo hooo,if the games were selling really well they wouldn't do that
d0nT wOrrY  +   754d ago
I actually enjoyed the demo!
Coming from a diehard fan of the series, the boss battle was really amazing too.
Baka-akaB  +   754d ago
"if the games were selling really well they wouldn't do that "

Obviously you have no clue , the only franchise of the same genre outselling dmc is God of war .

NT wish any of their previous games had "500 fans" left fighting for it or caring for it :p
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FrostyZipper  +   754d ago
The fact that God of War is the only hack-n-slasher outselling the franchise is immaterial because practically everything else has outsold the Devil May Cry franchise by a good margin. Fact of the matter is that Devil May Cry 4 didn't rake in nearly as much as Capcom needed to turn a decent profit. The fan and critical reaction to 4 only made things worse and from the way people were reacting to RE5 a year later they must have judged that keeping things the same would only have resulted in a loss.

'So then why didn't they just let it die instead of bastardizing it?' I hear you ask. Well shit you only have to look at their recent track record to see that Capcom enjoys flogging a dead horse almost as much as Nintendo.

On another note I'm sure I saw somewhere that they'd dropped the smoking thing.
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Baka-akaB  +   754d ago
Er not at all .
No other game of the genre besides god of war outsold dmc , when dmc4 made around 3 millions (according to vgchartz's dubious figures 2.73 millions)

None did that .. below you have stuff like bayonetta and once upon a time Ninja gaiden .

"Devil May Cry 4 didn't rake in nearly as much as Capcom needed to turn a decent profit"

That you wanna compared to cod or other obviously more popular genre is irrelevant . There was never any hint about them not getting their worth , its just your own interpretation .

There were official earning reports that you end up contradicting your view anyway

"The fan and critical reaction to 4 only made things worse and from the way people were reacting to RE5"

You are reaching and scraping for interpretations . Sure there were criticisms and some backlack ... dmc4 sold very well nonetheless .

Just like re5 complains didnt stop Re6 from happening .

" I hear you ask"

Except i'm not asking , that's your imagination . Why is called greed . Capcom let it slip why rather easily and probably regrets now being so outspoken some times ago .

They dreamt of turning the franchise into a 5 million selling machine , wich is yet to be likely . They revised their estimate for more realistic figures since , while still hoping of course
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FrostyZipper  +   754d ago
I don't think I can come up with an even half-presentable counter-argument. So I guess I'll just say hats off to you, and let's all just agree that DmC is not going to be a very good game.
I literally cannot wait for this game to flop (and it will flop!), just so I can see how you guys will spin it by then.
Hanso  +   754d ago
i hope too!
all the media is giving the game a free pass.
But the game is flawed every good DMC player knows it.
im 1 of them!
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I can't believe some people still trust the press releases that the vast majority of gaming websites pass up for previews and reviews. These days, hype, marketing budgets and swag bags are far more influential on a game's score than the actual game itself. Professional gaming reporters have been replaced by bloggers long ago, and never has that been more clear than it is right now with "Donte may Cry".

This game doesn't look like DMC, it doesn't sound like DMC, it doesn't play like DMC, and there is no logical justification on earth why it should be named DMC... I mean DmC.
TheKindRoost  +   754d ago
@ chucky
I like how you go about the series having 500 fans then follow up on how "really well" the previous games sold.
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Nemesis4567  +   754d ago
I played the demo and although I found a few glitches here and there. The gameplay was quite nice. With that being said, I can tell the story won't be anything higher than mediocre based from what I've seen. Which is why I'll probably take a pass or wait for the game the last of us. I can see others loving this game based off the action alone, but it just wouldn't be a game for me.
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TemplarDante  +   754d ago
New Dante smokes, swears like a dysfunctional teen. I prefer Japans definition of cool.
All NT did was create the average COD fan and called him Dante.
P.S, the DmC demo sucks. Too slow, way too easy to be a dmc game.
Hanso  +   754d ago
i agree Normal and Nephilim are like easy mode wtf
SOS Mode should have been Normal Mode in this..
and whats up with the broken stylish meter?
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Erudito87  +   754d ago
ohh plz we are still getting a dmc the way everyone likes it yet people are actually pissed that the ip name has been leant out to another company for a single game WTF
Kenshin_BATT0USAI  +   754d ago
It's nothing how anyone wants it. It's quite crappy actually.
timeon11111111111  +   754d ago
Erudito De Firenze • 10 hours ago

ohh plz we are still getting a dmc the way everyone likes it yet people are actually pissed that the ip name has been leant out to another company for a single game WTF
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Erudito87  +   754d ago
yes i know i wrote it on the damn article website too. So?
byeGollum  +   754d ago
Did anyone else like the game besides me?

I like the new Dante. He is charismatic, cool and stylish. The gameplay will take some gettin' use to. I like the visuals. Art.
FrostyZipper  +   754d ago
I disagree.

NT made a pretty huge mistake with the character of Dante here (not that I particularly liked the original Capcom rendition either). They could have humanized and really done something with the character, but instead of smug and smarmy he now acts like an utter pillock with enough 'baditude' to fuel an entire legion of Britain's finest white trash. I like the physical design of Dante, but as they say, looks will only get you so far. What I will agree with you on though is the visuals; much more colourful and vibrant than in the Capcom games.

I can only hope that if NT manage to pull through with regards to narrative that he develops in a satisfying manner and eventually loses that infuriating attitude.
dirthurts  +   754d ago
I don't like the look of the main character, but everything else looks phenomenal.
I look forward to playing it myself. Sure it's different, but we need that these days. fPS are getting old...
wishingW3L  +   754d ago
the battle system is broken: http://www.youtube.com/watc...
BlackSharinganX  +   754d ago
my beef with DMC is dante's looks, and it needs better work with his jokes. He was the deadpool devilversion. ALso vergil looks ok, but come on we got a version of confident elegant and pridefull power hungry vergil on DMC and you guys turned him into goody boy doing right for society.
what i enjoy of DMC? pretty much the world environment looks likes there actually a devil hunter's service to do, you got to admit on the old DMC's you were a devil hunter taking phone calls but not one single person on the street, not even one?!. Also i like the limbo idea as well looks sick twisted very fitting i might add.
Terms of gameplay i think its ok but it doesnt feel like dante though it feels more like nero's gameplay with his arm, only this time using weapons as sugar coating.
Rupee  +   754d ago
Devs can't win... They either don't try anything new and people complain it's the same game or they do and fans throw a fit.
blue55  +   754d ago
Devs can win. They can put out some new IPs or try to remain consistent to the game's established tropes. Nobody is whining because Dishonoured isn't like Bioshock. They like Dishonoured for taking inspiration from Bioshock but doing its own thing and having no external baggage about anything from the Bioshock-universe.

Capcom really don't deserve much credit here and whilst I believe the criticism is overboard it represents what it reflects, and that is gamers disliking devs trying to sell games on their names for the sake of it, even when they go so far as to change the formula and say 'well you better accept it just because'.

Capcom aren't stupid, they knew it'd go badly but they didn't care and I'd assume they just decided to make a new DMC because it's easier to do that with an established name rather than try to win people over with the quality of a new game (something that you only have to look at Bayonetta to see as a successful approach from within the genre). Basically it's lazy and in essence represents Capcom's approach to games entirely at this point. You only have to look at what they're doing (releasing sequels) and what they're not doing (putting out new IPs) to see that.

Whilst the game may prove to be decent and gather fans, it'll be a complete mark on an otherwise good franchise simply because of the changing of formula that nobody asked for. If Capcom really wanted to put a DMC game out there for fans they'd have mirrored the gameplay of 3 and just upped the scope, but they didn't and speaks for itself.
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Rupee  +   754d ago
I heartily disagree... There has been fan outcry since the the new look for Dante was unveiled. They aren't unaware of the complaints, therefore the easy thing to do, the "lazy" way, would be to reskin the character and bend to the will of the howling masses. That would take NO time at all to do... the animations,etc would be the same. The majority of the work would be already done. Instead, they are trying to breathe new life into an established franchise. The looks of characters evolve over time and that's not always a bad thing. Adam West's batman and Chris Nolan's dont look the same... I give them credit for sticking with their original vision of this game.

The real issue is people are resistant to change. Especially gamers...

*edit* by the way I agree there is a definite lack original ideas the last few years. Too many sequels and prequels.
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Silly gameAr  +   754d ago
Think I'm buying. I thought the demo was ok. Definitely not the DMC we're used to, but it wasn't terrible. I'll give it a shot.
rezzah  +   754d ago
If you have a mentality of "giving it a shot" then rent it.

Unless you don't mind spending the money.
Tei777  +   754d ago
So I gues I'm the only person who played it and enjoyed it more then I did the recent DMC. The art design, the cutscenes/script and hell even Dante was a more interesting character IMO. He seems more human and yet more unique, even witn the selection of the voice acto, its just something a bit refreshing. Also people need to remeber that its a reboot. reboot doesn't just mean a removal of numerals from the games title. It means an introduction of new idea's and a different take on things, this translates to everything, so of course it isn't going to feel exactly like old DMC, otherwise its not a reboot.

Oh and the humour is so much better!
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