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Submitted by Cocozero 511d ago | opinion piece

Sony's Portable Console Dying Ugly in Japan

Forbes writes: "The performance of Vita in Japan has been nothing short of atrocious on so many levels. On the week ending November 11, the unit volume in Japan was a shocking 4,021. The eight-years-old PSP sold 12,000 units during the same week. This is a rare example of a new console failing to dislodge the old one even after one year on the market." (PS Vita, Sony)

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Snookies12  +   512d ago | Well said
Lol, I stopped reading at, "The PS3 is aging badly".
Jinkies  +   512d ago
It's the only consoles left which is basicaly future proof.

It looks, plays and works great for being 6 years old...
AAACE5  +   511d ago
Future proof? No! Nothing is future proof these days. But it is doing well and keeps me playing.
Series_IIa  +   511d ago
Future proof?

Most games on all of the consoles can't even achieve 720p screen resolution...

Unless upscaling is the future?
MikeMyers  +   511d ago
It's far from future proof. Just because bluray holds lots of storage space doesn't mean the systems limited amount of RAM and aging GPU is future proof. I do disagree that the PS3 is aging badly though. It's still pumping out great games and future titles like The Last Of Us show great promise and one that still holds its own visually to modern PC's.
Blacktric  +   511d ago
"Tero Kuittinen
Contributor

VP at Alekstra - mobile diagnostics, mobile trend research, mobile expense management.

The author is a Forbes contributor. The opinions expressed are those of the writer."

So to put it simply, this guy is just some iOs loving dipsh*t who doesn't have any actual clue about the handheld console market, let alone actual home console one.

Never, EVER, take the words of a market researcher as facts or even as a rumor in a serious way. Ever. These guys are just clowns, parading as actual intelligent researchers.
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Mounce  +   511d ago
@Blacktric - I like you :) lol

@Series_lla - Future proof, a term used by Sony that signals their personal goal of keeping the life of their hardware for 10 years before ditching it, unlike what Microsoft did with Xbox 1 which was butcher it early to fuck over the fanbase that still were playing it to push them to buy their next console to make up for a loss of FULL support by the company.

PS3 and Vita are guaranteed future proof, Sony says this to tell us, the consumer, that they plan on giving it support undeniably until their time is up. PS2 had support up to games like God of War 2 in 2007, that was when PS2 was basically 7-8 years old. PS3 is getting the same treatment, and Vita. To me, it's them saying "Don't think we'll jump ship and tell the current buyers - "Sorry, since its selling like shit right now, we plan on just ignoring everything and pretending it never existed, you just wasted your money, kthxbai""

Meaning, if you buy Sony hardware, it WILL be an investment, that of which is only a matter of time before a game is funded or developed for it that will be of everyones interest individually. I have a Vita, and I will wait patiently knowing there Will be a good handful of games that will make me say "DAMNIT I want a Vita now! -_-" and want to buy one anxiously, but I have one Now so I can just go out and buy that game when it comes out :P
NeverEnding1989  +   511d ago
Not sure why you guys are going so far off topic.

He's looking at numbers and the numbers say the Vita is doing about as good in Japan as the original Xbox did.
dennett316  +   511d ago
@Mounce, the 360 has been out a year longer than the PS3 and is also still going strong. Both companies are stretching this generation out, and both companies will support both formats even when their next gen offerings are ready.
Both have lost so much money this gen because of their loss leading strategy that they can't afford to abandon the hardware when it's now actually generating profit for them on each unit sold. Sony are not unique in this instance.

Also, future proof does not mean what you take it to mean. Future proof is discussed in terms of hardware only, not software support. Hardware wise, no console is future proof because their spec is fixed with the exception of storage space. PC's are future proof because every component can be replaced at any time.
Blacktric  +   511d ago
@NeverEnding1989

Some people are going off topic because the author is an absolute clown. It doesn't matter he's pointing out a fact (Vita doing bad in Japan), because the rest of the article points out towards two possibilities;

-He either doesn't have any clue about what the hell is he talking about as a whole, considering the things he said about PS3...

-Or he's just completely biased, which I don't think is that possible since the guy is writing for Forbes as a mobile market researcher who mostly focuses on mobile market (mobile as in cellphones and smartphones).
Dmarc  +   511d ago
@snookies
lmao you shouldve kept reading

" Nintendo’s portable gaming empire is facing a potentially lethal long-term threat from mobile apps. Apple‘s iPad application market is getting more and more sophisticated game titles, as ambitious games like “The Room” and “Clash of Clans” edge towards console game quality"

DEAD

I just dont understand why people keep comparing the sells to the DS.I mean I understand because both are handheld mobile devices but c'mon,nintendo has always had the more popular handheld coming from the gameboy days.Thats like comparing the sells of black ops 2 and resistance 2 regarding popularity.Just because it didnt sells as much as a juggernaut doesnt mean its doing bad.
Im guessing thats what people are basing they're scales of good or bad on.
Oh well I dont care.Il prob get my vita sometime next year when I start school.Yea.. Normal people dont buy everything day 1 btw

@ blacktric
He's just another one of those "phones will take over the gaming market"idiots
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Consoldtobots  +   510d ago
I am currently replaying GOW3 and my jaw still drops at what Sony Santa Monica achieved on the PS3. Anybody that can look at games like God of War, Uncharted, for the graphics they achieve with 512mb ram and what Insomniac achieved with Resistance 1 in terms of parallel processing.........which STILL HASN'T BEEN MATCHED OR SURPASSED. anybody that tells different is a fanboy talking out of their behind.
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HarryMasonHerpderp  +   511d ago
The author sounds like a butt hurt fanboy "it can feast on Sony's corpse and hoover in consumer dollers" who talks like that? it's like he's loving it.
What a complete loser.
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kopicha  +   511d ago
he is just trying to get hits for the site. That's obvious. With all the Vita hate going all these long, that's like an easy way to draw attention. Notice he wrote 2 different article on the same day which one praise and one bash. Moreover it is not the first time the site is writing on article to bash on Vita. There was at least twice in just less than a month with this one making it 3 articles. Funny thing is how contradicting to then write another article to praise the device over the recent addition with PS+. Anyway a writer who can call games like The Room and Clash of Clans console quality games already you can stop reading right there.
torchic  +   511d ago
never agreed more with a human being.

I just want to add that this was the same website that just a few hours ago posted an article that gave "3 reasons why Sony's PS Vita will crush handeheld competitors"

http://www.forbes.com/sites...
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dennett316  +   511d ago
It's a big site with several different writers. They most likely also operate from a "neutrality" stance in that both sides of every story must be put forward so as to counter accusations of bias. They are not a games specific or format specific site, that's not conflict of interest, it's ensuring a level of unbiased coverage.
Tewi-Inaba  +   510d ago
The difference is, one is an opinion the other is a fact ¯\_(ツ)_/¯)
geddesmond  +   511d ago
Lol I did the exact same thing. Japanese PS3 sales have always been around the 15k to 21k a week mark unless it gets a software boost from titles the japanese market goes crazy for. Last week the PS3 sold 17k. How exactly is that aging badly lol.
Why didn't he mention the 70 Million+ sales on par with xbox after giving it a year head start?

sony will finish 2nd place and and 1st place in non casual gamers eyes.
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CalvinKlein  +   511d ago
you mean sony lost half its market share and MS gained more than double theirs from last gen?
zgoldenlionz  +   511d ago
I got a feeling November is going to be a good month for the vita. Scratch that it's going to be a great month.
darkride66  +   511d ago
I guess now that the hoopla surrounding the Wii-U's launch has died down a bit, gaming "journalists" can get back to what they've been doing for the past 6 months, reminding us all of the Vita's impending doom, over and over and over again.
Abriael  +   511d ago
I stopped reading at "forbes.com".
ChronoJoe  +   511d ago
So you stopped reading near the end of the article?

...
2pacalypsenow  +   511d ago
It shows the Forbes.com in the N4g article page
ChronoJoe  +   511d ago
My reply was @ Snookies12, the guy I hit reply on.

He said he stopped reading at 'the PS3 is aging badly' which is fair enough, but that's usually what people say when they stop reading at something early on, which flags the entire thing as probably not worth reading.

It's kind of redundant to say, when you've already read 90% of the articles content.
moegooner88  +   512d ago
" The franchise is not as strong over there as it is in America and Europe, but the PS3 version of the game still sold 73’000 units – a solid number considering how badly the PS3 is aging right now. In stark contrast, the Vita version of the AC3 sold just 24’000 units – and this triggered only 9’000 unit increase in the console sales."

So selling 73,000 units among an install base of 6 million, is considered a solid number, but selling 24,000 units among an install base of 1 million isn't, how exactly does this make any sense ??
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MikeMyers  +   511d ago
It doesn't make much sense other than Vita obviously has a much more limited game selection when compared to the PS3. The author is suggesting AC3 is more of a system seller for Vita than it is on the PS3 (or thinks it should have been). Not sure if I would agree unless marketing was more so for the Vita version.

What we need to take into context is not all great products have great success. For whatever reason Vita is failing to capture a wide audience. I personally think it is due to todays times with everyone fighting for spare time with the huge array of devices available now to the consumer. On top of that Vita has been marketed as a sidekick/partnered to the PS3 whereas something like the 3DS is more geared towards its own identity. As a PS3 owner the Vita looks much more tempting (especially for me being a Plus member), but as a non-PS3 owner it probably doesn't. That's just my own opinion.
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aceitman  +   511d ago
Japan is waiting for a price drop , they did the same with the psp and it took off , the 3ds did the same thing price drop and boom it took off . I think after the holiday Sony will do a price cut or ,they might surprise us and just keep the price down now.
XB1_PS4  +   511d ago
I bought it after the black friday price drop. It was too appealing once it cut under $200.
NYC_Gamer  +   512d ago
PSV isn't dying the handheld is just being ignored by many developers in favor of the 3DS..It's not fair that many studios haven't produced/announced any Vita software.
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Aibo  +   511d ago
Well, in my opinion:
"many studios haven't produced/announced any Vita software" = "dying system"
bubblebeam  +   511d ago
A lot of that is due to the fact that Sony are well renowned for making games for the 'core', and devs these days are trying to find new and cheap ways to make quick $$$.

It does suck, yes. But there are already some great games out for it. Persona 4 Golden has like a 95 on Meta off 20 reviews or something. That's insane.
It shows a handheld can have better games than what home consoles can offer.

I think people are being a bit to presumptuous, as the VITA hasn't even been out a full year in Japan, and only 9 months everywhere else. Give it time.
Majin-vegeta  +   512d ago
*Looks through submitter's history*Damn trolls are out today.

Lol guys don''t bother clicking the link it's jibberish.
j4re  +   511d ago
Gibberish or not, this terrifies me: "Nintendo’s 3DS continued its rampage, moving 186’000 units during the week – 46 times more than its handheld rival."
smashcrashbash  +   512d ago
I love when people revel in Sony being in trouble with articles like this. How is the PS3 'aging badly'? What does that even mean? I have never seen a generation so eager to see a console fail. I watched Sega's consoles die and never laughed or gloated or anything.It was horrible to see the Dreamcast with so much potential go to waste like that and the same goes for the VITA. No matter what I think of another console i would never want to see it go to waste.
onandonandon  +   511d ago
"Sony in trouble"? Revel away!!
-Mika-  +   512d ago
Well look at what selling in japan. The same rehash of pokemon,mario and animal crossing are selling millions. Those people would rather buy that instead of fresh and innovating games like Gravity Rush and Little big planet.
Jadedz  +   511d ago
Really?
I'll give you GR (since it's a new ip), though LBP? That franchise has a couple of years under its belt, and it is innovate.

I'm sure you're a decent person, but your hate for anything unrelated to Sony (gaming wise), has me a bit worried.

Enjoy your games in the meantime; don't let your anger get the best of you.
Hicken  +   511d ago
Mika's got a point, though. LBP has never been very popular in Japan.
RIP_Weazel  +   511d ago
@Jadedz
..Mika doesn't sound angry.
rpd123  +   511d ago
Yeah, I just looked and Gravity Rush sold more in North America than it did in Japan. When a game like Gravity Rush doesn't sell well in Japan, there is something wrong.
darkziosj  +   511d ago
because LBP , Uncharted, assasins creed , Cod, metal gear are not rehash and that's half of the vita library. what a half-ass reason....
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StrawHatPatriot  +   511d ago
They release Mario, Pokemon "rehashes" for the younger gamers/as games for those who want more fun bright games.
fatstarr  +   510d ago
Gravity rush is the best thing going for the vita

As much delusion as you guys have for little big planet it doesn't live up to the hype. No body wants to play that on a train or a bus.
And no one wants ps3 rehashes for vita games, that's like buying the same thing twice If anything the vita is strong enough to play a ps3 game you should just be able to play it on the vita or ps3

Pokemon and Nintendo first parties are solid 8/10 games you know what you are getting when you buy it
legend911  +   511d ago
The Xbox 360 and PS3 lead the way, I really don't see how that's going. It could be aging, lots of things do but it doesn't mean it's bad. It all depends on what the new generations will bring us. :)
tiffac008  +   511d ago
The author even doubts Ninty's future in the market?... well that says everything.
Jazz4108  +   511d ago
Japan doesnt equal the world.
sak500  +   510d ago
Yeah only when comparing 360 sales against PS3's.
tachy0n  +   511d ago
stupid media trying to kill basically the best consoles out there, welcome to the new world order.
rawshack  +   511d ago
How can this be a new world order ?have you been looking at the back of a u s doller bill again
tachy0n  +   511d ago
THAT CRAPPY SPELLING.

don't you see all these "PSVITA is Doomed" articles when the PSVita doesn't even have a year being released and stupid journalists say it is doomed so people dont buy them?
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zeeman  +   511d ago
Woo better sell my 3 year old PS3 and 6 year old phat as its ageing badly.

Guess I'll skip all the awesome games coming out. Far cry 3, GTA V.

I'll be honest though I am put off getting a vita as I opted for a nice shiny new Asus infinity tablet I'm not a young man anymore love my games but need much more from a handheld device. Like a decent web browser would be nice.
Godchild1020  +   511d ago
While the web browser on the Vita ia still not up to terms with tablets or my phone; The lack of HTML video in the browser, but YouTube does a good job with that. The web browser has drastically improved with its latest 2.00 update; It's faster and I can go up and down a web page with the checker box load screen and waiting for it to load wvwn more.

This is not a comment to try and persuade you into.getting a Vita, just comment to info you have the improvement in the browser.
zeeman  +   511d ago
Thanks mate. I gave it a whirl and enjoyed uncharted loved my PSP GO as well and was intent on geting the Vita but opted for the tablet. Is it true that the Vita doesn't have skype like the GO?

Edit: just saw it is available on PSN oh well maybe at a later stage as I ordered the tablet already. Might have been otherwise had I got that great black friday deal at amazon
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vikingland1  +   511d ago
I will support my Vita untill the end. If this story is true and the Vita is dying then it would be the 3rd gaming system that died that I bought. The virtual boy and the Dreamcast being the 1st two.
Rip-Ridah  +   511d ago
If you got a HD-DVD player, you may also count that. It was system related in a sense, so maybe give it 1/2 a death and not a full point. To be troll-less, the PSPGO could be given 1/4-1/2 a death as well. IMO, the original Xbox was the worst suicide in history. I wouldn't even call it death...suicide. (Please note: not the system, games, fanbase, etc. I'm referring to the way it "opted" out of the market.)
onandonandon  +   511d ago
Another 'article' submitted by a fanboy who craves attention as he obviously isn't getting any at home!! The only thing dying ugly or badly is this site thanks to trolls posting trash!!!
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ratcop22  +   508d ago
What are you talking about? Im no troll. If you disagree ok. But don't call me a troll. Grow up.
onandonandon  +   504d ago
Oh I'm sorry I forgot that TROLLS have feelings too!! I was being polite calling u that! I'd liked to have called u worse believe me!!!!
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ratcop22  +   511d ago
Ps3 isn't ageing. Rapidly like it's others compettiors. Such as xbox and hahaha wii. It produces Pc like graphics. Ie the last of us, Beyond, and Gow Ac.
CrustifiedDibbs  +   511d ago
produces pc like graphics? lol. i almost fell out of my chair.

gotta love how the sdf is so easy to draw out. no wonder people write negative sony articles. you fanboys are so predictable.
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ratcop22  +   508d ago
Ok. What do you call BEYOND? Or the last of us. Beyond alone looks better than Hitman on Pc. Idk why you fell outta your chair hope you didn't break your neck.
CrustifiedDibbs  +   507d ago
you are delusional. im going to guess you dont play much on pc. youtube videos are not enough. multiplat games from 3 or 4 years ago look better on my pc than those games. 720p (maybe) @ 25-30 fps is NOT pc quality.
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Master of Unlocking  +   511d ago
Isn't Forbes an american publication? Wouldn't that somehow have something to do with them bashing japanese makers/publishers Sony and Nintendo, and subsequently praising Apple and Google?
No, nononononono no no no no no, simple coincidence of course.

"Aging system", the PS3...LOL Just you play Uncharted 3 while waiting for Ni no Kuni to release, Forbes cronies, we'll see who's aging. Oh, and go play Killzone 2 while you're at it, this game is 3,5 years old and still smashes any other FPS to pieces. Yes, even on Apple's iPad. :)
sak500  +   510d ago
Wow so you should only read magazines published in japan for your gaming reviews as well right? REst of the world has no right to write anything related to japanese products.. Are you japanese ?
Tundra  +   511d ago
The PS3 is aging but to say it's aging badly is quite ignorant. It has the highest global YTD over its direct competitors this year and it consistently sells over 200,000 units worldwide a week.
pepeks  +   511d ago
An american magazine trashing japanese brands and praising american...what a surprise :)
etownone  +   511d ago
The future for portable gaming are tablets and cell phones.

Once wireless portable blutooth controllers become the norm and a standard option for every ios/android game, then you can call it a wrap.
FunAndGun  +   511d ago
so people are going to carry around a tablet and a wireless controller? or a cell phone and a wireless controller??????

How are you going to hold your cell phone or tablet and play the game with your wireless controller?

You think people are going to put their cell phone on their lap and play games with their controller?

LOL, this guy^^
SegaKnuckles86  +   511d ago
3DS sales tell me different...
dkgshiz  +   511d ago
From what I understand this author basically is excited for shitty $5 app games to take control. If thats true its just another awful blow to gaming. If $5 shit apps from awful companies is the future then I guess I can kiss gaming goodbye. What you can expect from tablet gaming.

Simplified combat to the extreme
Horrible controls
Bad stories (If they even exist on app games)
Mediocre gameplay (Unless you think Angrybirds is gods gift to everyone)
etc.
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WalterWJR  +   511d ago
How can the same site bring out 2 opposing articles in the space of a few hours?
-Gespenst-  +   511d ago
The closer videogames get to some sort of mainstream status (IOs, android etc are at the forefront of this) The more diluted and crappy they become.
extermin8or  +   511d ago
Woah woah he uses the fact that AC liberations only sold 23,000 units in it's first week on the vita and that caused an increase in vita sales of 9k as a BAD thing... wtf; well considering the size of the franchise is mediocre never mind the instal base of the vita alone in japan, and that the ps3 copy of AC3 was released the VERY SAME day on main consoles and didn't really sell that all that many over there... So consider that the vita's sold increased 9k of hardware units then another 24k just of the games...
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StrawHatPatriot  +   511d ago
I think it's because the gaming industry wants more lively games like Nintendo games, not always having a generic FPS or sequel that many people would often need two buy the first games to play or serious games
objdadon  +   511d ago
I could give two shits about what they like in Japan!
josephayal  +   511d ago
41.1
This is horrible for sony
Rockdown  +   511d ago
Dear me I wasted life energy on that dull article. Time I could have spent playing Persona 4 on vita.
Ethereal  +   511d ago
The Japanese flock to software. Once the big titles release it will sell.
megamanX2  +   511d ago
Dying i thought it was already dead?
Kingthrash360  +   510d ago
Said the guy who's suffering from 3ds buyers remorse.
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