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Submitted by Barry_Burton_84 891d ago | opinion piece

PlayStation All-Stars: 5 characters who should have made the cut

PSU.com writes:

"Sony’s Smash Bros-inspired brawler PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale does exactly what it says on the tin: brings together a host of iconic characters plucked from 15 years of PlayStation gaming, and lets them rough each other up in the ring. However, its choice of combatants is slightly questionable. Sure, we’ve got a host of heavyweight combatants like Nathan Drake, Kratos and Sly Cooper bringing home the pain, but likewise there are some conspicuous holes in the roster." (PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale, PS Vita, PS3)

CalvinKlein  +   891d ago
GIANT ENEMY CRAB!!! especially for last boss.
StrongMan  +   891d ago
There's just too many Playstation characters to narrow the list down.
yami930  +   891d ago
For anyone who doesn't know (like the author in the article) putting Donte in the game over Dante was not superbots decision, they tried to get Dante but capcom did not allow Dante, or any sort of Dante skin or anything, they only provided Donte, and it was either that or nothing so superbot took him. As for Crash, negotiations and agreements still have yet to be done between superbot and activision (plus he throws wumpa fruit not apples lol) as well as the talks between superbot and square enix is not over either, so I don't feel Superbot deserves any blame for characters not making it, they only put what they had, fantastic game either way and the DLC is very exciting, looking forawrd to all the additions to the game!
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Lovable  +   891d ago
lol Donte
smashcrashbash  +   891d ago
You are talking to concrete. People blame Superbot no matter what.They are not their characters and they cannot dictate what they want to the people they are asking.You cannot go in and demand Old Dante for instance. Capcom says that this is Dante now and that is how it is.They aren't going to compromise their potion on using new Dante to give Superbot Old Dante and have DMC fans up their @$$ asking 'If you can use old Dante for PASBR why can't you use him in the new DMC'. These developer aren't as stupid as people think they are.
admiralvic  +   891d ago
Heres the thing, there is a lot of conflicting information. While I agree that Superbot doesn't deserve all the blame they're getting, we also don't know what they tried to do or how much effort was applied. For all we know they could have asked for ____ character in ____ version because the other version was more recent and perhaps easier to get. In the end, your point loses validity when you look at things at a larger scale.

"They aren't going to compromise their potion on using new Dante to give Superbot Old Dante and have DMC fans up their @$$ asking 'If you can use old Dante for PASBR why can't you use him in the new DMC'. These developer aren't as stupid as people think they are."

Yet Project X Zone had classic Dante announced a little before All-Stars announced DmC Dante. I think using the classic look in a game that released a whole month and like 9 days earlier, certainly could cause some confusion here. Sure it's East vs West here, but it also compromises their position too.
Jinkies  +   891d ago
Well I kind of think they did have a decison but it worked out benefiting them more

http://www.examiner.com/art...

"“We understand that different people have their own favorite version of Dante. However, once players sit down and try him out they will realize that he’s simply a blast to play!"

So basicaly they picked the best one who they thought was peoples favorite and were trying to calm people down because their "favorite" didn't get picked.
admiralvic  +   891d ago
I wouldn't be shocked if they picked that version for a different reason. Like perhaps it cost less to use the newer version, since they were getting free marketing from All-Stars or simply because the new version is what people are talking about.
smashcrashbash  +   891d ago
Where in that did they say they had a choice but they picked that one? How do you know that didn't mean they had to pick him but they are reassuring you that this on plays just fine despite not being the one you want? And way do people think that using new Dante could be cheaper then using Old Dante. How does that make any sense? Why should something newer be less expensive to use then something older?

And why would Capcom care about free marketing when people have been talking non stop about new Dante and nothing else about the game.So how is putting him in PASBR going to stop anyone who hates him or accepts him to look at him any differently? Are people going to hate him any less because he is in PASBR? And anyone who doesn't know who he is doesn't care which Dante he is so how is that free advertising? Does the game say 'Buy DMC at the end of the game or something?'

Please if you must come up with the tin foil hat theories try to put some sense in it. Like the people who say Big Daddy is only in it to advertise the new Bioshock. There are no Big Daddys in the new Bioshock and anyone who hasn't played Bioshock has no idea what game he comes from. So what kind of half @$$ advertising will that be? I don't see any signs in PASBR saying 'Buy Bioshock Infinite' anywhere so where exactly does the advertising kick in? If they stuck in a Handyman that would make more sense but a Big Daddy? What do you think people will run to pick up Bioshock Infinite because a Big Daddy is in PASBR or run to buy the new DMC because he is in PASBR? I don't see what kind of business sense makes at all 'Put new Dante in PASBR.Many people don't know who he is and everyone else hates him and won't accept him and there is nothing indicating that another game exists but hey free advertising'. Who exactly are you advertising to?
Ducky  +   891d ago
" And anyone who doesn't know who he is doesn't care which Dante he is so how is that free advertising?"

... it's free advertising because now people are aware of who Dante is.

Advertising isn't just about telling people flatly to buy a certain product, it's about telling them that a certain product exists and/or getting people interested in the product. To that extent, BattleRoyale does act as advertising for upcoming games.

Bioshock is getting a new edition which includes the first two games, while Revengance and DMC are also getting released soon. BattleRoyale isn't going to make people run to stores to purchase those games, but it will create some level of interest for those games. It is commonly acknowledged that people will buy products that they feel they are familiar with, which is also something BattleRoyale does. (... and no, I'm not saying that this is the sole reason for BattleRoyale existing)

When buying their next game, someone might pick up the new DMC because they're familiar with the new Dante, while if the old Dante was in BattleRoyale, then that familiarity wouldn't exist.
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admiralvic  +   891d ago
@ Smashcrashbash

Do you understand how marketing works? Because I get the impression you don't...

Marketing is about creating awareness, so it works in Capcoms favor reenforcing that "This is Dante". This will get people interested in who the character is and maybe result in another sale. Either or, it won't hurt Capcom by including this character.

The same is ALSO true for the Big Daddy, since there is the Bioshock infinite level. It's very possible they went with the Big Daddy because Irrational games was okay with loaning the character out (LBP preorder costume) and thus creates awareness of the game. Also as FatOldMan said, they're rereleasing the game, so that also helps.
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abzdine  +   891d ago
i agree and i'll add Abe to these.
I dont get why they went for the new Dante design
Moncole  +   891d ago
They went with the new Dante so they can market the new DMC.
Gamesgbkiller  +   891d ago
I want Vincent Valentine from FF
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LarVanian  +   891d ago
Gabe Logan should have been in the final cut. He was the first Sony action hero after all. I think he and Solid Snake would have made great rivals!
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Kratoscar2008  +   891d ago
Damm Sony giving the cold shoulder to Gabe, the Siphon Filter series were a blast, specially 3.

I would add the Persona 3 Main Character or the P4 guy.
betan21  +   891d ago
i vote for lara and cloud
soundslike  +   891d ago
Its called licensing. You think they didn't list every character in pre-production that you would list? Please. They aren't that stupid, but ultimately its up to who they can successfully lobby to get their characters in the game.
Mad Cloud didn't make it? Blame Square-enix.
Mad there's new Dante and not old Dante? Blame Capcom.
No Spyro? Go call Activision. See the kind of response you get.
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Jinkies  +   891d ago
Anyone else I'm fine paying for them as DLC but....

Crash, Spyro (new PSN exclusive on it's way), Old Snake (Raiden over Snake...slap to the face), Original Dante and a FF character ....

I wouldn't pay for, those characters should of been in the game from the start, especialy Crash when Omar teased him over and over again
rdgneoz3  +   891d ago
Characters Sony does not own the IPs/licenses for and are still trying to talk to several of the companies for various characters.

Look at yami930 and smashcrashbash's comments. If they don't have permission for the character or a certain version of the character, then they can't put it in.

You'll have better luck listing characters that Sony are from Sony 1st or 2nd party games.
Jinkies  +   891d ago
Yeah I know but we don't really know what goes on behind closed doors. Maybe they are hard to get, maybe they arn't...get what I mean

Crash - As I've said Omar teased him over and over again. He should of just said he wasn't going to be in the game, the guy lead us on loads

Spyro - I understand but with that exclusive game coming out it fuels some hope

Old Snake - I don't believe a word about the IP crap and stuff, this would of been an easy one to get. Snake is an iconic PS character, fair enough if Raiden wasn't in it aswell maybe you could believe Kojima/Konami didn't want their characters included but to have Raiden in it, RISING Raiden aswell and not Solid Snake....well it's a bit of a slap to the face to be honest. This one has obviously been done for advertising reasons just like Dante.
rdgneoz3  +   891d ago
You do realize "Rising Raiden" and new Dante were allowed to help promote their new games? Hell, Big Daddy is a bit advertising as well since the new Bioshock game will be coming soon enough, though they (Sony) have a pretty good relationship with the Bioshock devs lately so it probably didn't take much effort to get him.

They can ask all the like for different characters, but if they're only allowed certain ones or the IP holders don't want them to, they can't. Some might just want too much compensation or just not want their characters represented in a certain way. Look at MK vs DC, the DC guys didn't want it too violent and the game got a Teen rating...
DigitalRaptor  +   891d ago
What I want to know, is where the hell is Wander from Shadow of the Colossus? It's a first party character and he's from one of PS2's essential games.

I don't see why Snake is such a problem either. It's not like less people are gonna buy MGS Rising if Snake is also included. These characters have to be included as DLC, because I just can't see why they cannot be.

Crash, Spyro, Cloud etc I'm almost accepting as probably not going to make it, due to a heavy hand on licensing, but I hope Sony can come to some sort of arrangement as far as DLC goes.

My personal wishlist:
- Gex
- Abe
- Wander/Ico
- Old Snake or Big Boss
- Chimera/Nathan Hale
- Sora
- Pyramid head
- Noctis
- Jade/Pey'j
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majiebeast  +   891d ago
Team ico has not given permission to superbot for him, its sad but i guess sony doesnt want to force their own studio's to do it if they aint 100% on board.

I think Superbot should go talk to Atlus,Nis and add water for some digeaea,Persona and abe love.
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sypher  +   891d ago
Superbot have been dropping massive hints in interviews of why they couldn't get such and such character than fans are clamoring for. They have repeatedly said how they had to approach every IP holder, even the one's Sony hold. As the original creator has the say on whether they want Superbot to be able to use that character.

Clearly no Square or Activision character in PASBR rightly means that the IP holders there didn't want Superbot using them. Whether it was a money issue or competition, who knows.

Maybe they will come to an agreement in future and add them as DLC? I think Superbot are as much in the dark about it as we are.
Paranoidplayer24  +   891d ago
Are you guys stupid they tried for all of those characters but Lara's DEV doesnt want her in all stars, Capcom chose to give them new instead of old, acticrap is asking tons of money for crash, and characters cost money. Cloud and snake wouldn't come cheap. Are you guys to dumb to realize they tried
Deku-Johnny  +   891d ago
I can't help but feel that if they don't have enough first party characters to make a game that celebrates it's first party characters why make the game in the first place?
josephayal  +   891d ago
Mega man and Psy

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