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Submitted by BlackNerd 1176d ago | opinion piece

"Black Nerd" Attacks Wii U Haters

A Black Nerd puts Wii U haters and hardcore gamers in their place.

Andre Meadows of Black Nerd Comedy may be a Nintendo Ambassador and fanboy, but he still loves the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360. However, he constantly sees 360/PS3 fanboys and "hardcore gamers" bash Nintendo and its new console the Wii U... a lot of them doing it without even trying it! So "Black Nerd" fights back in the name of Nintendo. (Assassin's Creed III, Culture, Industry, New Super Mario Bros. U, Next-Gen, Nintendo, Tech, Wii, Wii U, ZombiU)

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Neonridr  +   1176d ago
lol, there's this place called outside by the way, it's really nice, its got like sun and stuff.. XD
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ape007  +   1176d ago
LooooL this guy is AWESOME, SUBBED to him instantly
BlackNerd  +   1176d ago
Thanks so much for subscribing to my channel!
LOGICWINS  +   1176d ago
@BlackNerd- I agree with pretty much all your points. Although, me not wanting to buy a Wii U has more to do with the lack of appeal Nintendo exclusives have to me as opposed to me "hating" on it or not being able to afford it. I would be interested in playing Bayonetta 2, but as of right now, I see nothing that justifies the purchase of a Wii U.

Even if your a diehard Nintendo fan, why not wait until the inevitable Zelda, SSBB, Donkey Kong, and Metroid titles come out to buy a Wii possibly a lower price point? I never understood the whole mad dash to buy a console at launch when its at its most expensive and has its crappiest games.

There are MANY legitimate reasons to criticize the Wii U. Meager hard drive space out of the box, lack of an optical audio drive, having to buy the pro controller for shooters and fighting games since the gamepad isn't ideal for those who take these genres seriously, barely more powerful than the PS3/360 etc. Its fine for u to call out the haters, but also understand that not all criticisms are hate.
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fatstarr  +   1176d ago
lol awesome indeed, he sounds like my comments on n4g.
AO1JMM  +   1176d ago
Same here. He is hilarious!
darthv72  +   1176d ago
To be fair, there is a difference between "hardcore" gamers and "core" gamers. While you would think one is derived from the other. That is only partially correct.

Hardcore was coined from the idea of a gamer being so dedicated that they essentially played anything and game related. Be it puzzle or shmup or sports or platform types of games. It was an obsession for that gamer to be as versed in everything gaming as possible.

Sadly, there aren't many like that anymore. That designation you had to earn in the gaming community. For several years now that classification has been replaced by a new one. The "core" which actually is a self proclaimed title by those who feel they can be called that due to the genre of games more so than the amount.

Since the age of the FPS, new players think that by playing these shooters or violent action games or any online based competitive game they are automatically given this title.

That is the problem with younger generation gamers. An entitlement issue that has skewed their way of thinking. They won't acknowledge the existence of other opinions when it comes to what is a game and will look down on those who do not share the Sam pov as them.

There are a few of the original "hardcore" still out there. We are older and have a more sense of respect and can be entertained by the latest action or shooter as much as even the simplest puzzle game.

I say this because the hardcore don't necessarily want to be associated with these "core" because it is them and their attitude towards games systems and others that make it look bad for the rest of us that just want to enjoy this industry.
Baka-akaB  +   1176d ago
Not saying that's your overall point or tactic Blacknerd ... but i'm tired of the recurrent sophistry and "laissez faire" attitude and defense we see for a bunch of game items and game related subjects . especially the "if you dont like it just dont buy it" variety

As commercials products they all deserves sound criticism of their pros and cons , and if fans can't handle the truths or perceived truths about it , they should heed their own crap and ignore what they deems hostile against said products .

A lot of die hard Nintendo fans needs to grow a thicker skin, or better yet realize that criticism you don't necessarily feel the same about still has merit.

It's really getting a bit ridiculous. The logic I'm seeing most times is just... pitiful

Many of the people criticizing the Wii U grew up with Nintendo. If you are over the age of 20 and play on consoles, chances are you grew up with the NES and/or SNES. Classifying people who feel that Nintendo has made a lot of oversights with a 2012 console as "nothing but haters" is really immature.
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guitarded77  +   1176d ago

Loved the video... you make a lot of good points. There are a lot of detractors when it comes to any console manufacturer or game publisher. It's just part of being successful... you're gonna have haters. It happens in every entertainment medium.

One thing that pisses me off though is if a person has a legitimate concern or criticism, they are burned at the stake by fanboys. I spent $600 on day 1 buying Wii U, games and accessories. I'm kinda let down because Nintendo didn't implement a trophy/achievement system especially since Miiverse is the perfect vehicle for such a system and Reggie said "We'll have all that" when referencing trophies/achievements on Wii U. I'm also concerned at the level of censoring Nintendo is doing on Miiverse and on their Facebook page. I agree that most people are just being stupid hypocrites with their complaints, but some criticism is good for Nintendo and gamers. If we just roll on our bellies every time Nintendo does something we don't like, and do not put some pressure on them to make the best console, games and online community, then we miss out on something great. Nintendo "fans" (I hate to use such general terms) are the worst when it comes to attacking those who constructively criticize the company and they perform a disservice to the gaming community as a whole because of it.

Since you have so much influence in the Nintendo community, would you please ask Nintendo point blank why Reggie said "We'll have all that" when asked about a trophy/achievement system in an E3 interview with GTTV? When anyone asks the question, they get attacked by rabbid Nintendo fans that say "achievements are stupid"... I don't care if they're stupid or not... I care that Nintendo said "We'll have all that", and they're nowhere to be found aside from being able to post to Miiverse when a player performs a certain accomplishment in NSMBU. Your argument for giving Nintendo credit for what they have done with Wii U is only valid if you're willing to criticize when they do something wrong.
MasterCratosKong66  +   1176d ago

I know it sounds redundant but your criticisms can also be criticized. When someone points out something wrong with your criticism, it should be heeded just like the original criticism to the subject itself. That's how civil debates work.
vickers500  +   1176d ago
"That is the problem with younger generation gamers. An entitlement issue that has skewed their way of thinking."

Yes, because older gamers don't have entitlement issues at all.


I agree with most of what you are saying, but to imply that older gen gamers are all (or mostly) true gamers (the ones who enjoy all genres of gaming)and all or most younger gamers are just self centered entitled brats who think themselves superior to other gamers because they play violent games/shooters is a huge generalization and simply not true.

I've seen just as many older gamers put down other peoples opinions as I have younger gamers, and just as many entitled older gamers as I've seen younger gamers.

It would be absolutely stupid to believe that this is simply a generational thing. This is an individual personality thing.

Being an entitled/ignorant a*hole has no age limit, and is not more common in either group of gamer, be it young or old.
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deafdani  +   1176d ago
Sun? What's this "sun" you speak of? Can I eat it?
Knight_Crawler  +   1176d ago
Happy Black Friday to all my people!
Gr81  +   1176d ago
Well done : )
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SilentNegotiator  +   1176d ago
Black Chad Warden doesn't consider the real issues.

For one, the large update. It's hell on the basic system's internal HDDs. No, I don't care if YOU have a 2TB external harddrive, some of us want our saves on the internal harddrive and have little to no plans of buying large DD games. We don't all want tumors attached to our systems to have all of our saves by the end of the generation on our system. By the size, it was clearly an important part of the final OS - they should have had it on the Wii U in the first place.

@Gimmicks stuff
The 360 and Ps3 weren't built AROUND the Kinect and Move, however. In MANY reviews, they have found the interface to be slower using the gamepad, as opposed to something like the D-pad.

@Old titles
Uhhh, yeah, he really doesn't make ANY real points there. People just don't feel the need to buy a new system when the main attractions are old games. And he compares collection packs with late ports?

It's easy to be arrogant when you ignore the actual issues. All this guy does is make irrelevant arguments and use a whiny mock voice.
deafdani  +   1176d ago
I'm deaf, so I can't comment on the video per se, but I wanted to counterpoint your arguments:

1. The update isn't THAT large. It's only a bit more than 1 GB in size, not the 5 GB that almost everyone erroneously reported. Although I'll happily aknowledge the fact that it definitely would've been better if it had all those features ready at launch, instead of being put in a day-one update. But precisely because it's not that big, it's also not a big issue, and hardly a deal breaker for the system.

As for hard drives, if Nintendo included a large internal hard drive from the start, it would've ramped the cost of the console even further, and we would've gotten less internal space than what we could buy outside with that extra money. Calling it a "tumor" is a bit ridiculous, because the Wii U console itself is ridiculously small, and you can just plug the hard drive on the back of it, and nobody will see it.

2. Interface slower using the gamepad? Can you point me a review where it states that? Because, as a Wii U owner, I can attest that's not true at all. The data streaming from console to gamepad is instantaneous. The interface works exactly at the same speed with the gamepad as it does with using a Wii Remote, and it's actually much faster to tap things on the screen than to navigate them with a normal controller. Oh, and the gamepad has d-pads, too. I don't understand what you're talking about here.

3. Old titles and ports: the Xbox 360 and PS3 had a lot of ports in their launch lineups, but somehow it seems Wii U doesn't have the right to do the same without being heavily criticized for it. And never mind the actual original content, of which there's quite a lot: Scribblenauts, Zombi U, Mario Bros U, Nintendo Land, etc. Oh, and some of these ports aren't exactly old, namely Assassin's Creed, Sonic All Stars Racing, Black Ops 2.
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N4g_null  +   1176d ago
All that you said was fine and dandy. SUN!

Yet I'm really liking having my 10 games on a harddrive! You get a message and bammmm you can start playing! No getting up to put a game in! I'm a big fan of disk based software but I'm loving the option to install and launch with out a disk. It is a very pc like freedom.

Omg is the gyro accurate in zombi u and black ops along with Nintendo land. It is way beyond motion plus... It really isn't a gimmick if it works that damn good!

Plus while I'm playing the old wii thur the wiiu I can even adjust the sound from the game pad. Or while I'm playing the wiiu.

While is this console going to make us all fatasses! LoL.

Zombi u has a minecraft feel too it except it is pure survival. You can shut and barricade doors?

It's so good to see the wiiu in final form. To tell you the truth many where still in the dark about many things that would be included in the final system.

The wii emulation has a very emulated look to it... As though the resolution could be changed. Some things are smoothed over while others render as if they where on a pc, interesting.

Powerwise? Gpgpu are a beast at some things. Even Sony is thinking about using one. If Xbox does have sixteen core it will be in the same boat.

Unless they all use an i3 intel chip! Ms has a bad taste in their mouth from that and Sony got raped by nvidia. That leaves arm, IBM, and amd the masters of open cl lol.

This development will actualy make more developers use direct x11 on pc instead of direct x9. If Sony abandons gpgpu computing the programming gurus will jump ship. Oops.
MikeMyers  +   1176d ago
@ SilentNegotiator

So tell us, how large are the save files?

Nintendo is trying to keep the cost down. They don't want to release a $500 or $600 game console. We see time and again storage issues. From the Xbox 360 and not all of them having hard drives, to paying $100 for minimal upgrades in the iPhone and iPad, the Playstation Vita, Even the PS3 and it's original 20GB model was a pain considering how many games require a partial install.

We don't know how limited the hard drive will be on the Wii U unless someone can tell me how many games require large portions of hard drive space to play. I just like the fact they support outside party hard drives. Something Microsoft still doesn't do.

There is simply a lot of negativity surrounding Nintendo, some legit and some not. What is noticeable is a lot of it comes from people who have yet actually spent a great deal of time with it.
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Abdou23  +   1176d ago
@ scissor_runner

You sayin that you can install the your games and play them without having to put the disk in ?! or were you talking about DD ?!
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StanSmith  +   1176d ago
He is 100% right. As a 360/PS3 owner, I think the hate on Nintendo is petty and childish. If it doesn't interest you, fair enough. Nothing wrong in that, but to go into every WiiU article, hating and repeating the same tired crap again and again is just plain sad. Those doing that need to find something to do in life as they've clearly got issues.

I'm still getting a WiiU. It looks great. I'll also pick up Sony/MS' next gen offerings too. All this crap about "but, but it's not powerful enough" doesn't mean a damn thing to me.
wishingW3L  +   1176d ago
you could say the same thing about those that go into every article praising Nintendo like a blind sheep from left to right. Everybody sees things differently and have different opinions that's a rule from life.
StanSmith  +   1176d ago
Yeah, you're right. But there's a line. When you start going into every PS3/360/WiiU article, just to trash it (Mika) then those people need to find something better to do.

I'm not against people having different opinions, just those who repeat their opinions blindly in every single Sony/MS/Nintendo article here.

It's one of the reasons why the open zone needs to return on N4G.
jmc8888  +   1176d ago
Actually I don't see a lot of fanboys, just haters.

The people referred to as fanboys are the ones pointing out that we still don't know squat, and the information used to bash the Wii U is dubious at best and full of holes. Hardly fanboys.

There are SOME of course. But for the most part we have the reality brigade against the haterade. With a few sprinkles of fanboys on top.

Fact is we don't know what the bandwidth is of the ram. We don't know it's timings or actual clock speed. We don't know it's latency based on the setup of the console. We don't know the eDRAM, how much is in it. The combined bandwidth of all these things combined.

We don't know much beyond 7XXX GPU.

We don't know much about the CPU.

We have devs that haven't done one line of code on the Wii U bashing it as weak, whereas those that actually have, love it.

We have haters taking all this dubious info and proclaiming it as fact. Using launch titles and more specifically launch title ports developed around the 360 as supposed PROOF of it, even though we know such factors hold newer systems back every time.

You have many of the haters no aware of the limitations that Sony and MS are facing with their new consoles and thinking it's going to be some uber beast that can strangle an abominable snowman while kicking a bigfoot's butt. Those factors...power required (<300 watts versus 700-1500 in PC's)...heat...cost of ng returns...reliability...not wanting to lose money per console...add in's like Kinect 2 and hand manipulator (let alone a tablet controller).

So no, it's mostly haters based on fiction versus the people waiting for facts. Again with a few pro fanboys on top.

At some point all these things will be answered and be facts....but for right now, they aren't. Anyone that says otherwise is being foolish.
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r21  +   1176d ago
I wonder if this is Turk's cousin, the blerd.
fresh2death93  +   1175d ago
he's black and he's a nerd... whats so hard to understand ?
SilentNegotiator  +   1176d ago
Fanboys have really been on the offensive against the "hate" lately....especially after DICE, 4A, and the warriors dev had their say. That caused an amazing tantrum.

Sorry, Nerd, but the large update should have shipped on the systems and furthermore it takes up a large chunk of the basic system's 8GB internal HDD.

You sound like Chad Warden.

Not everyone wants to save to an external tumor when there's an internal HDD. 1/8th isn't significant? 8GB is already cutting in pretty close.
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StanSmith  +   1176d ago
"Sorry, Nerd, but the large update should have shipped on the systems and furthermore it takes up a large chunk of the basic system's 8GB internal HDD. "

I was thinking the exact same thing. It's not a deal breaker for me, but Miiverse and everything else in that update should have been there from day 1 in the OS.
Eorl  +   1176d ago
"...but the large update should have shipped on the systems and furthermore it takes up a large chunk of the basic system's 8GB internal HDD."

But that's the thing, it doesn't. The update was roughly 1GB, which I don't really see as being a "large" chunk of an 8GB system (which by the way has multiple ports for an external HDD). I'm all for opinions, but at least get the facts straight.
Deku-Johnny  +   1176d ago
The update wasn't shipped on the console because they were still working on things such as Miiverse and eShop etc. And the only reason 'fanboys' are on the offensive is because of Sony/MS fanboys unreasonably bashing the new console constantly, when 90% of the time the things they're saying about the Wii U are incorrect.
StanSmith  +   1176d ago
If they were still working on them, then the console wasn't ready to be released.

I love Nintendo, but there is no excuse for that 1GB update.
Redempteur  +   1176d ago
i'm sorry but this kind of thing shouldn't be worked on like that .

First where was the last time i had to download a +1 System update for a console ? Never
i know big patches exist but something so huge for a system ? really ?

Second ..Working on things is alright , then they should have used a partial patch update ..the patch was huge for no reason .. from phone , to game consoles ( apple, android devices, vita , ps3 , 360 and the list goes on ) partial system updates are something that should be common for a 2012 device.

Third .. they didn't anticipate the massive amount of users on their services ( resulting on the long update time ) another reason why their entire update process was amateurish .

i won't even comment on nintendo leaving a debug/test version of their tools accesible for the public ... they just forgot !!

That's so professionnal... so nobody can't complain about them ..because they did nothing wrong , right /s ?

As a programmer specialized in networks , the amount of thing they failed to take into account is just too huge to give them a free pass.
shutUpAndTakeMyMoney  +   1176d ago
He mention only trilogies. Yet The last Of Us and beyond are coming next year. And we are not even on to ps4 yet.

At least one company still invested in current core gamers with new IP's even in bad times.

what about wii or 360 last year to this year?

I'll stop hating on the wiiU. I really would buy one though. maybe in 3 years.

Also why is comparing mario to trilogies?

Trilogy = 3 games.
Mario = 3000 games.

3000 trilogy? idk what to call it..
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Redempteur  +   1176d ago
he forgot dragon dogma, dishonored

Of course nobody is that stupid to launch a new IP for christmas ... but new IPs are still made

But hey ..nintendo did "nintendoland" an IP that run on nintendo nostalgia's an ok game , but it sure isn't what wii sports was when the wii launched.

At least there is Zombie U...
PopRocks359  +   1176d ago

Man, your arm must be hurting with all of that grasping.


While those games do indeed exist, I think the point is that other major publishers put a great deal of focus on sequels and therefor Nintendo is not alone in the guilt of 'rehashing'.
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Jinkies  +   1176d ago
It would of been funnier if Kenan and Kel did this

"Wii U Haters"


But no seriously, I think this "hater" thing has went to far, it's like everyone with a negative opinion now is a "hater".
Deku-Johnny  +   1176d ago
The reason most negative opinions are being seen as hating is because most of them are using lies to back up why they don't like the system.
Jinkies  +   1176d ago
But I meant in everything though, not just with the Wii U

Take dmc for example, we have solid reasons why we don't like the game yet were labeled "haters" by people who do like the game.

For the Wii U, even if you state something which is pretty much true like "The Wii U isn't future proof" or "It will loose third party support in the future".....BAM, you called a hater. I'd understand if you said something like "The Wii U SUCKS"...."Nintendo are a crap company" but other things can just be counted as opinions rather then being a hater.
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jmc8888  +   1176d ago
Losing 3rd party support isn't 'pretty much true'.

That's another guess, and not one that is backed up by further scrutiny.

PS3/360 can run 'next-gen' engines, which means the Wii U (and unless the total amount of ram needed is finally exceeded) then even the 360/PS3 can run 'next-gen' games. Just not at their fully glory.

So no, seeing how the Wii U doesn't have the ram problem, and it can easily run the next gen engines, like Cryengine 3, Frostbite 2, and other things, then yes, there is no real reason to believe it will have 3rd party support pulled.

Remember Metro 2033 doesn't even run well on a GTX 680 when you turn up the DX11 options, and the guy that made that engine is probably the worst person to ask. He also hasn't done a single thing on the Wii U hardware, so he's guessing.
dennett316  +   1176d ago
@Jinkies, I'm not up on all things DMC, but the only reason I've heard for people bashing that game is that Dante doesn't look the same as he did in the other games. That's it, because that's all that's really been shown and no-one knows how it plays.

How exactly is that a "solid" reason?
As for the Wii U not being future what? No seriously, so what? The 360 and PS3 were both outdated upon release. The Wii even more so, didn't hold it back from selling 20 million more consoles than either system, and 200 million more games. No console is future proof by design, they can't be upgraded and the PC is always generations ahead.

That's why Nintendo look towards offering different experiences rather than getting into a graphical arms race that will cost them money. They're not like MS and Sony, they strictly do games. They don't have other divisions propping the company up to enable them to lose money on everything.

As for losing third party support in the future, there's no evidence of that other than how things went for the Wii, and the situation is markedly different now.....It's been less than a week on sale. And that's before we even get into the matter of the big draw of a Nintendo machine being the Nintendo developed titles.

Frankly, a lot of these concerns are ones which simply don't matter to the majority of people...seemingly only to those searching for reasons to back up their decision not to buy one.
Baka-akaB  +   1176d ago
" I'm not up on all things DMC, but the only reason I've heard for people bashing that game is that Dante doesn't look the same as he did in the other games. "

Not true at all . But like you said you are not up on all things DmC . People advanced many fears and reasons behind their initial dislike of the game . Sure it started with the look of the hero , but never stopped there with more details abunding about the game over time .

But obviously not many of the fans , of the new game , and most of all the press actually could argue their case , so they'd retorted to the tactics of playing the ostrich , heads buried in sands and chanting LALALA loudly .

Only conveniently seeing or acknowledging grievances about the look , and dismissing the rest .
Of course been the case with all of them , some had very good arguments and something to say , even if i completely disagree with them , but those were very few .
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Jinkies  +   1176d ago
"but the only reason I've heard for people bashing that game is that Dante doesn't look the same as he did in the other games. That's it, because that's all that's really been shown and no-one knows how it plays."

Take a look around and read the comments, that hair/looks thing was the first complaint when the game was annoucned since then a ton more complaints have been talked about. Honestly the only people who say it's just because of the hair thing are the ones who like dmc and want to try and counter the arguments of the so called haters.
StanSmith  +   1176d ago
I miss Kenan and Kel :(

Dammit Nickelodeon... Why you no release DVD Boxsetz???
PopRocks359  +   1176d ago

Depends on the complaint. It also depends on the attitude.

For example, I think it's hypocritical that the 360 launched with 20GB or none at all depending on the model (with no option for non-proprietary storage at launch), whereas Nintendo is launching a new console with 8GB to 32GB with the option of a variety of HDDs at launch.

Another issue I have is when people take otherwise inconclusive or speculative information and roll with it as 100% factual. The recent issues regarding the CPU are primarily based on hearsay; the words of developers who are otherwise inexperienced with the hardware.

What about the PS3's cell? Suddenly the devs (Valve anyone?) who hated the PS3's architecture don't matter?
negroguy  +   1176d ago
This really is nothing new. Media and fanboys thrive on doom articles, especially new consoles. When PS4 releases this will be nothing compared to the doom articles it will get. It could make toast, but someone out there will complain that butter doesn't come with it.
NYC_Gamer  +   1176d ago
I don't understand why people are quick to say everyone with legit complaints are "Wii U Haters"..The console has some issues just like any other piece of hardware and people have the right to speak about them as please.
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jmc8888  +   1176d ago
No it's people mixed in with it all, or they are trying on one hand to have legit complaints....but then drawing conclusions based on bs.

So it's muddy. But people have to analyze the sources, and the realities of the situation. You can't infer bandwidth from reading the SKU off a ram chip and reading what a PC would have roughly speaking if it had that chip in it.

You also can't go off devs that haven't done squat on the console...especially when ones that HAVE love it.

Also people are judging the game through 360 ports and launch titles and claiming...even if they are ports they should run better.

Not really.

Because if in the code is still only makes use of 512 mb's, and doesn't account for the extra threads, or other features in the hardware, then the software port itself creates a bottleneck making the system look poorer than it is.

So there's lots of people claiming something is showing something definitive, when you look a little bit deeper, it really isn't.

Then you have some people who are doing that, but also adding haterade with it.
Deku-Johnny  +   1176d ago
YES! This video is great, stop hating on Nintendo for daring to be different. Sony and Microsoft pretty much do the same thing with their consoles, Nintendo does things differently, how boring would gaming be if Nintendo did the exact same thing as Sony and MS?
Redempteur  +   1176d ago
i do wish nintendo could look at his opponents to not make stupid mistakes.

-not make updates so huge ?
-having third parties games that don't framedrop or tear ? ( providing updated dev tools to develloppers )
-not tying my nintendo ID to my console so that if my console dies , then i'm screwed ( you can't move between consoles )

3 basic examples of stupid mistakes their concurrents avoided and that nintendo totally ignored.
PopRocks359  +   1176d ago
Nintendo is the only company that makes mistakes?
Redempteur  +   1176d ago
of course not , microsoft and sony make mistakes too ..but they had more than enough time to look at XBL & PSN to avoid those mistakes.

Sorry but Who can think that a 1gb update is a good idea ? Aside from nintendo of course ?/s
daclynk  +   1176d ago
I went outside once. The graphics were amazing but the gameplay was horrible.
Drainage  +   1176d ago
try the female stage
shinrock  +   1176d ago
update times.
average update time for x360=15-20sec(1min-5min for full system updates) what about ps3? any1? not trying to be funny.just curious.
fatstarr  +   1176d ago
Ive seen some updates take a bit of time for the ps3.
dennett316  +   1176d ago
I've had updates on the PS3 take upwards of 30 minutes due to the way it downloads and installs seems to take longer than a 360 does. And they are nowhere near the size of the Wii U update.

The first update for the Wii U was a biggie, with a lot of features added. Subsequent updates will take a lot less time to complete.

It's a bummer if you just want to get straight into playing your new system, but if you want those features, it's a necessary one, and one Nintendo did warn people about in it's Direct videos. Besides, you can just jump straight in and play if you like and do the update afterwards.
MsmackyM  +   1176d ago
good video black nerd with valid arguments
fatstarr  +   1176d ago
more logic in this one video than in the last 15 wiiu hate articles I read on n4g... combined.
metroidfusion2  +   1176d ago
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Ben_Rage_3  +   1176d ago
His logic is sound.
sitharrefus  +   1176d ago
Enough said! good points! i have all systems and its funny how ppl argue, just play games and have fun! NOT every system is for anyone and we all play different experiences!
dennett316  +   1176d ago
It's funny, but the majority of people who bought the Wii U will miss a lot of the negativity being spouted about it because they simply don't care about all that petty drivel, they just want to play some damn Nintendo.

Like it, don't like it...buying it, not touching it....I don't care, people need to get a bit of perspective before they commence to whining about stuff which is irrelevant to 95% of the consoles user base.

The 360 had a port of the PS2 game Gun...gee, that system must be terrible. The PS3 STILL suffers from porting issues from time to time....what a waste of time THAT system must be. The detractors need to get some perspective. If the machine is so worthless and going to fail and blah blah blah, why waste so much time and effort trawling articles to tell people that's so? Trying to convince yourselves?
Gohadouken  +   1176d ago
"It's funny, but the majority of people who bought the Wii U will miss a lot of the negativity being spouted about it because they simply don't care about all that petty drivel, they just want to play some damn Nintendo.

Says you . Plenty owners are complaining about minor issues and bigger ones , just like they did with other consoles . Doesnt mean they hate the system nor aint having fun . They are just legimitate customers with legimitate concerns .

This is exactly the kind of crap people talked about and in other threads , when they mention folks having a "with or against us" attitude .

And imo people without the console yet , adoring it this much without even a leg to stand upon , arent coming off better looking than someone likewise without it , but being skeptical and cautious .
lfclee  +   1176d ago
Nintendo have nothing to worry about, it's sony there company has been downgraded to junk.
By Influential credit rating agency Fitch has downgraded Sony to “junk” status.
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Man-E-Faces  +   1176d ago
Ok let's put aside the power debate of the WiiU, instead let's talk about all the problems this system has & lacks.

1. No reset button, when games/apps freeze up no matter how long you hold the power button in you can't power the system off only by unplugging it from the power cord. Unlike the PS3 you simply push the power and it shuts off
(slim ver.), fat's also had the ability to reset the system by holding down the power/reset button for 3-5 seconds or you could power the PS3 off from the back switch. Bottomline this is dangerous for little kids to unplug their system from a wall socket every time a game/ app freezes, it's plain stupid on Nintendo's part and many potential bricks and injury(god forbid electrical deaths) lawsuits could arise.

2. Slow loading from app to app from the handful that are there, it's pathetic that Sony's Vita a HANDHELD does it very smooth but a supposed next gen system greets you with a loading delay.

3. Where are the Video/Photo/Music folders at I can't rip cd's to the system like PS3, I can't import/save/organize Photos like PS3, I can't download movies or import them from another hard drive like PS3, I can't browse the web while listning to music or have custom soundtracks play in games like I do with my Vita or PS3, I can't watch any of my large dvd collection like PS3. Hell I can even hook up a damn printer to my PS3.

4. External hard drive don't try to spin it, it's beyond stupid to have an internal hard drive in the WiiU when you can't simply take it out and upgrade instead you have to expose, plug in to another wall socket a hard drive. That's 3 items for 1 freakin system that require a power source(system,controller,hard drive) Beyond stupidity right there from Nintendo.

5. No ethernet port, you know very well a wired connection is better than a wireless one, couldn't Nintendo do what the other consoles logically do and build one in. Oh no cheap ass Nintendo wants you to go out and by 1 and plug it in to another usb port.

It's pretty sad when my Vita a (portable) does pretty much everything better in regards to apps, and touch screen features. So besides the web browser, miiverse and slightly bigger screen Vita trumps what Nintendo's(console) does. And not to mention the PS3 which is 6 years old and still has more features available. Then there's your Mii being the only option for your online profile instead of a favorite game avatar like you get with PS3/360. I'll just say this besides the new pad controller which I like btw, the WiiU feels like I was thrown back in time pre-PS3,360.
nnotdead  +   1176d ago
1. people complain day 1 updates for everything. be it games or hardware. when people buy something they just want to use it. especially on the very first day of release. no it's not the end of the world, but it is a legitimate complaint. no one(that ive heard) is saying to never update a console.

2. people complaining about waiting are just excited to use their new system. i would think these people are pro Nintendo. i don't get why arguee with them when, it seems, you are trying to go after other fanboy groups just talking bs.

3. Nintendo and 3rd partys need to show us the Wii pad is more than a gimmick. the screen is the WiiU's biggest selling point. a lot of people felt a little ripped off from the promises the Wii made, and almost never delivered on. bring in other console isn't a legitimate argument. people have, and do comploain about them, but i didn't think this was the discussion we where having.

4.gamers are looking for reasons to buy or not buy a WiiU right now. a lot of pro WiiU people where bring up its awesome launch line-up. others see that a lot of those games are ones they have already played, and don't seem to be running them as well as on other console. sure this will change down the road, but this is another good reason to at least hold off on buying a WiiU now.

5. 2 new NSMB in two months might be too much for some people. i don't know what to tell you. it is hard to argue against hypothetical peoples opinions.

6. agree, though i'm too sure how many people are making the argument. either way im right there with you on this point.

7. don't want to buy a WiiU right now, but if i knew someone who had it i would also want to try it. its called being a gamer. i still watch Halo reviews/quick looks, because it is a big deal in the gaming world. i don't even own a 360, and haven't enjoyed a Halo i've played since CE.
stuntman_mike  +   1176d ago
that's funny stuff and totally true.
jbgamer  +   1176d ago
Thank you Black Nerd for this video and why a lot of people and even some fans on here who pretend to be nintendo fans but are not, for letting them have it, i mean for people who say wii u does not have games for me, oh Ninja Gaiden, or Zombie U, or Monster Hunter, or Bayonetta are not for you? But if Microsoft or Sony is their thing fine, but let me, and millions of others enjoy our Nintendo Wii U :)
wiiulee  +   1176d ago
lol..they do mean and xbox owners are just haters....fake hardcore gamers...gaming started with nintendo and innovation ends with nintendo...thats why wiiu will win next gen also...nintendo wiiu has graphics but also everything else that counts..and nintendo has 3rd parties on a hardcore gamer but not base on because i like games with guns...but because i love gaming..and now that i have a kid, nintendo makes more sense then ever...especially now that wiiu has all games available on it.
TheSaint  +   1176d ago
I don't hate Ninty, I just don't like them.

I've always perceived it as a kids console. Now I see it as a kids and grannys console.
Orionsangel  +   1176d ago
It's kiddie, but it's alright. I accept the kiddie looking service. Because I grew up with Nintendo and it reminds me of playing Mario and Zelda and NES was for kids.

Now I'm gonna sing-I'm a Nintendo kid and I don't wanna grow up. I accept the kiddie games because I'm so nostalgic. From Mii's to Reggie to Mario games. It's the lamest kiddie system there is. I don't wanna grow up, cause baby if I did. I wouldn't be a Nintendo kid...I mean 40 year playing Nintendo Land kid.

I'm sick and tired of Nintendo Fanboys living the Nintendo Bubble. Where Nintendo can do no wrong. Everything is amazing in the Nintendo Bubble. The Wii U sold a billion units in one day in the Nintendo Bubble. Then If someone says one bad thing about the Wii U. Ugh! I'm tired of Nintendo bashing! Waah!!!
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Hueynewton2012  +   1176d ago
I subbed to your channel, thank you for repping African American gamers. Great content and most importantly you displayed common sense!!!!
BlackNerd  +   1175d ago
Hey everyone, reading and liking your comments so far. I see valid points on both sides of the argument. Just to clarify what a couple of you asked, I do not compare people giving critical reviews with "haters". If you are reviewing a product like the Wii U and you point out its flaws (such as load times), that's totally fine. Every console, game, etc. has pros and cons and we need to hear that to decide if it's a product we want.

Where the "hating" comes in for me is people who completely disregard a system or call it a failure based solely on its issues without also considering its advantages. Or people who hate the Wii U for things that 360 and PS3 do as well. And I definitely define "haters" as people who have completely written off and hate the Wii U WITHOUT EVER TRYING THE DARN THING just because it's Nintendo.

But overall, I just wanted to make a silly video joking about Wii U, Nintendo and its lovers and haters. Don't take it too seriously and thanks so much for watching.

Now if you'll excuse me, I want to go outside but I have to do a "life update" first. -Yours Truly, Andre a.k.a. Black Nerd a.k.a. "Black Chad Warren"
j0ester  +   1173d ago
<3 your video. Loveeeee it!!!

Virtual Boy was awesomeeee!!

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