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Is Xbox Live Dead?

"Sony may have been in the console race for longer than Microsoft has, but one thing is evident: Microsoft know how to create a strong online offering. They’ve been at it for the last ten years, who else could be doing a better job? Well, up until around a two years ago that may well have been the case, but now they’re no longer top dog when it comes to offering consumers value for money. For me, the tables began to turn on the Washington based giant thanks to the arrival of Sony’s PlayStation Plus."

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NukaCola1736d ago

Well the fact is, LIVE won't die if people play Xbox. You aren't afforded the right to play online for free with MS so you have to pay to enjoy all the features you get on PSN and WiiU for free, at a price dictated by MS. Plus Xbox and COD are one this gen and the kids need their COD and they pay to play.

I do have to say, since you get everything LIVE has for free with PSN, minus a couple technical features like chatting, PS+ is a baller service for anyone who can afford the $50 a year to be in the club.

ShadyDevil1736d ago

One thing that really grinds me is that you used to need XBL Gold to run Netflix and Hulu+ and Amazon. Not sure if you still do, which means if you don't have gold but have a sub for either one of those services you would need AN ADDITIONAL service on Xbox 360 just to stream. Not the case with PSN and their Playstation platforms.

darthv721736d ago

but what is disheartening to me is that netflix has really gone downhill since not reestablishing their deal with Starz.

Al i seem to see is all tv shows now on the new releases. A few newer movies but my interest in the service is really dropping.

I used to use my 360 for netflix streaming but I now use my lg bluray player. So that could be one reason for me to drop gold. Although i do enjoy some multiplayer now and then but not enough to keep the live...alive.

I just reupped my sub for another year. We will see how much i use it this year before I make my decision.

GrandTheftZamboni1736d ago

I don't care about free online gaming and sh*tload of free games with PS+. All I need is cross-game chat and Facebook app. Waa.. Waa...

/s

GuyManDude1736d ago

@darth

Do what I do: get Netflix for one month, watch everything there is to watch, cancel for two, resin for one, cancel for two.

$32/year, still get to watch everything.

BattleAxe1736d ago

Optional PS+ with lots and lots of free games and themes > Mandatory LIVE with no free games and maybe the odd free theme.

Play Beyond!
Make Believe!
Playstation!

Blacktric1736d ago

You also need to be a Gold member to be able to use some ingame services. For instance, you can't redeem SHIFT codes for Borderlands 2 if you don't have a Gold account.

saoco1736d ago

@ Blacktric,

what!!! that's just stupid. no, that's too far.

pixelsword1736d ago

Far from dead...

...far from cheap also.

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Elwenil1736d ago

I'm as big of a Sony fan as anyone but taking a look at all the people on Xbox Live playing games, there is no way I could ever claim it was "dead". I may not agree with why people pay for Live, but I can't deny that there are a lot of people on it. With all those people, I don't see how anyone could say it's dead.

BattleTorn1736d ago (Edited 1736d ago )

Roughly about eqaul numbers play on XboxLive vs PSN, no?

At least the online-activity for more AAA games are equal, if not sometimes more (see:COD), on Xbox Live.

caseh1736d ago

@Elwenil

Agreed, all the times i've heard 'x is dead' or 'x is dying' yet you will find online communities for nearly any game that has ever had one still in effect.

MSG4 (MGO) is a good example of a game thats apparently dead, logged in the other day for a blast. 4 Years on and I still had no problems getting a game.

I don't even own an Xbox and i'm not naive enough to believe LIVE is dying, its quite a laughable statement really.

Staircase1736d ago (Edited 1736d ago )

@caseh

Considering the Metal Gear Online servers closed in June, I really doubt that.

CandyCaptain1736d ago

@caseh It's dead now, as they patched it out of the game. At least we got trophies out of that. <.<'

caseh1736d ago

@Staircase

I may have exagerated when I said the other day but people were saying it was dead within the first year.

4 years later and it still had an active community right up to the point where the servers closed.

JellyJelly1736d ago

@BattleTorn - Sony do not release numbers on their PSN activity. If you have a source for it please share. All they release is their total number of users, which include PSP, Vita and PC users, as well as multiple accounts.

From what I've read it seems much harder finding people to play with on PSN, sometimes even when it comes to exclusive games. That's something you rarely experience on Xbox Live.

MaxXAttaxX1736d ago (Edited 1736d ago )

Those are very high numbers on both consoles.
BOTH communities are large.

No one is saying that it's literally "dead".

andibandit1736d ago (Edited 1736d ago )

At the moment the Communities are fairly equal in COD on both systems, with the xbox having around 700k online users at peak hours and the PS3 having around 600k.
I expect the Xbox community to distance itself further since alot of people like me, spent their money on Halo 4 this month and are dying to try out BO2 when i get some money between my hands next month. That and the fact the PS3 Version is to say it mildly, temporarily Fu... Up.

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BattleTorn1736d ago

"minus a couple technical features like chatting,"

I nearly split my gut. LMAO.

""minus a couple technical features" ... "like chatting"

BAHAHAHA. Do you know how much I am in a Party-Chat? More than I game! (cause I enter one before I launch a game, or remain in one while changing games)

If I wanted to talk to a friend, who was in-game, on PSN - I'd have to call him!

calis1736d ago

wow...really. You'd have to call him? With, like, a real phone?

HammadTheBeast1736d ago

I can pay $50 for a Skype plan, or use it for free. What's your point?

Shepherd 2141736d ago

Last night me, playing Halo 4, and two other good friends playing Zone of the Enders HD and Madden 13 were all in a party chat talking about how badass Skyfall was and other things for hours. Me being in my mid 20s now and with the few friends anymore that I rarely get to see, Party Chat is pretty crucial for me. You can't do what I just described on PS3, we would all have to compromise on heading to Home or all 3 or 4 of us to be in the same game, which gets annoying at times. Sometimes I just feel like relaxing and not playing anything while I chat while everyone else bitches at black ops 2 and talks to me simultaneously.

Not saying PSN+ is inferior, but there are plenty here that mock Party chat and say it's not that great. To me and hundreds of thousands of others, it is. That's all I want to point out.

HSx91736d ago

Seriously, I use Party Chat so much it's like second nature. It's a pretty big feature if you ask me.

Elwenil1736d ago

@Shepherd214,

Honestly, that sounds like a nightmare to me. My background is mostly PC gaming and we use Teamspeak or Ventrilo which allows anyone to be doing anything while in chat but it always drove me nuts having someone not in the game or in a different game on comms. The idea that half my team can be in a chat with people talking about god knows what instead of coordinating in the game is something I want no part of and many clans I have seen have similar rules.

Army_of_Darkness1736d ago

Using a real phone is sooooo 90's:-) lol!

DarthJay1736d ago (Edited 1736d ago )

People claiming that a phone is the answer don't get the point. Party chat is amazing, and if it ever comes to PS4, I guarantee you will all wonder how you ever gamed without it and guaranteed be the first singing the praises.

kreate1736d ago (Edited 1736d ago )

@darthjay

That's Cuz some ppl actually do want it while the rest of the gamers would be happy Cuz its a single blow to shut the mouth or fingers of the Xbox fanboys claiming a cross game chatting feature is worth the money.

Ps3 has cross game chat. Its text activated while Xbox live is voice activated.

Wtf? Psn has cross game chat? I must be nuts huh?

EDIT: if its just "party chat" ps3 has it in the form of both text and voice up to 16 ppl.

MaxXAttaxX1736d ago

Seriously, you guys are trying too hard.

PS Vita offers Party-chat for free. Up next PS4.

It's time to stop claiming that party-chat is worth $60 every year.

MRMagoo1231736d ago (Edited 1736d ago )

The last thing i want when trying to strategise with a team is other ppl in chat talking about a tv show they watched last night or the game they are playing, trying to say that is a good idea is beyond a joke.

Also whats up with everyone saying the games are on loan i have 4 games from ps+ and i only got them during the free time they gave me to try it and the games still work months on ??

pixelsword1735d ago

Some people say using a phone is no bother.

Other people say getting up to change a disc is no bother.

Different Strokes for different folks.

Gaming_Guru1735d ago

The PlayStation 3 does have cross game game, but it's in a text message format up to 16 people with three chat room up at once, making that 48 people at once.

To be honest I don't really use cross game chat especially playing online because it defeats the purpose. I think it's an overly hyped feature, like backwards compatibility, the majority will most likely not use it. Microsoft even removed that feature for Netflix without any complaints.

MysticStrummer1735d ago

I honestly wouldn't use cross game chat. I ignore psn text messages and my phone when I game. For single player stuff I want to be immersed in the world as much as possible. For multiplayer I want to talk about the same game to people who are playing the same game. If I want to "chat" I get in a party chat outside a game, but otherwise my mic is used for strategy and the occasional trash talking when I'm doing well.

OT - Hell no XBL isn't dead. That's just stupid. Yet another classic N4G headline that's designed to get hits. I wish people would do what I do and refuse to play along with this crap. If it didn't work to get hits it would go away or at least become much less frequent.

Shepherd 2141735d ago

Elwenil

Okay? Maybe it's a nightmare for you but it's a blessing for me.

It's the games fault if they don't require you to exit party chat to talk to teammates. CS GO requires you exit party chat to play, so does Dark Souls and certain COD playlists. If people wanna stay in party chat and not talk to you in game then they aren't as serious about the match as you anyway and it never mattered to begin with.

You don't need to communicate while playing single player madden or FFA halo 4 anyway so why not join a party chat with someone dicking around in AC3 and talk about how michael bay is F-ing up TMNT?