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Next gen consoles will be maxed out in within an hour

The Xbox 720 and PlayStation 4 will be maxed out by developers within an hour, Hitman: Absolution game director Tore Blystad has said.

"Every time you get a new piece of hardware, within an hour you max it out as a developer; that's just how it is," he explained. "You keep pushing it right to the max, every time a new system comes out you have to make a bucket for who is getting what from the memory and performance. Is the audio getting a lot? The animation? The A.I.? They're fighting for resources and this fight is very healthy because it will make people optimize the different elements of the game.

"Of course, it's great to get more power, but it's very quickly going to be sucked up by any kind of part of development. That's always the problem, right?" (Hitman: Absolution, Next-Gen)

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SynGamer  +   1178d ago | Well said
No they won't. What people don't understand is it ALL depends on the game engine and the developers. That's why Uncharted 1 looked great...and then U2 looked even better. Oh, and then U3 looked amazing. But wait, The Last of Us somehow looks better than U3.

It's all about refining the game engine and being clever with what you have to work with. There will always be a better way to do *something*, that will lead to improvements.
Walker  +   1178d ago
Agreed !
WrAiTh Sp3cTr3  +   1178d ago
Have any of you developed a game or worked on game development?
JellyJelly  +   1178d ago | Well said
Maxing out isn't the same as optimizing. Maxing out is about using all the resources available, not about utilizing them as cleverly as possible.

Read the article.
SilentNegotiator  +   1178d ago
What Jelly said. Games looking better is about optimizing, not using all of a systems resources. They WILL "max out" hardware on go number one.

But hey, how nice of you to think that you know better than a GAME DEVELOPER about the technical aspects of GAME DEVELOPMENT.
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darthv72  +   1178d ago
has a valid point. I mean we can look at the quality of games that launch with a platform and compare them with the ones at or near its end.

Its the same hardware from start to finish but the programming got better because they learned how to wring out more textures on screen or find tricks to compensate for any restrictions.

It has been this way for years. Just compare the graphical fidelity of a game like altered beast on the genesis to a game like rangerX. Yeah they are totally different types of games but they are made to play on the same hardware. The level of detail on rangerX and amount of scrolling is above and beyond what they thought the platform could do when it was released.

It takes time and dedication but we are seeing a development cycle where WE as gamers are getting pushy for releases instead of letting these guys finish their product. It could also be the pressure of the bigger companies to meet deadlines forcing these devs to cut corners as well.

i feel bad for the real hard workers (the programers) because they are stuck in the middle. They are being tasked with making a quality product but as cheap as they can. Which is what usually leads to improving on a formula they previously used. Refining and optimizing their code to do stuff that it hadnt before or do it better than before.

As to the next gen hardware, I think people will really be surprised when it does not represent the typical generational leap in specs but is more in line with converging more features into one box than before.

we are in a modern society of convenience and playing games on these machines has been the same for over 30 years. Consumers are wanting more than that and just by looking at the additions to the ps3 and 360 we can see they really like a platform that does more.

A bump in specs...yes, but the real difference is the more these platforms can provide as a service to the consumer.
SilentNegotiator  +   1178d ago
has a valid point"

Except completely off topic and with a clear indication that he doesn't understand the terminology.

What Tore said is totally correct. They will "max out" any new systems right away. They will use all of the system's raw resources.

The point that syngamer THINKS he is making, against the GAME DEVELOPMENT EXPERT is that games can be optimized. Which wasn't Tore's point at all.
Bereaver  +   1178d ago
It depends on what he means by max out. By the article he's talking clearly about the hardware and not about possible graphics.
BitbyDeath  +   1178d ago
I'd say he is wrong.

Resistance 1 didn't come anywhere near maxing out the PS3 and that was one of PS3's best looking launch titles.

Motorstorm also only used about 10-20% of the machines capabiltiies.
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DoomeDx  +   1178d ago
In order words, Optimization is key.
HarryMasonHerpderp  +   1178d ago
There are loads of games that look better this side of the console lifespan than the beginning of it because developers get better with the hardware as time goes on.
Not sure what this guys on about to be honest =/ lol
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SolidStoner  +   1178d ago
I understand what he is talking about, it will be maxed out in a hour in a way... but still over a time developers will learn to use it more professional, optimize and learn new ways to do same stuff with eating less system resources.. he meant that if you make game in a fast lazy way, you can max out anything...
SynGamer  +   1178d ago
I haven't read the article because the sensationalism title was all I needed to see to know what the author was trying to accomplish. Of course the devs will max out (or come close) with first-gen games. It's like build...well...anything. The first time will always take longer, not look quite as good, and cost more. With each revision you learn new ways to do "this" or "that". There really was no need for the article author to point out the obvious.
shutUpAndTakeMyMoney  +   1178d ago
@first post
Third party devs only optimize to a certain degree. So in a way he is right.

3rd party devs rely more on raw power.

Assassins creed 3 is on pc,ps3,xbox 360 & now wiiU.
Also they said they plan to support ps3 & 360 after ps4 and 720 are out.

So they will be developing for pc, ps3, 360, ps4, 720 & wiiU.

Imagine them trying to be clever and really learn everything about each piece of hardware. This would cost more time and money & probably wouldn't make them more money(keep in mind next gen development cost).

Also as far as playstation goes. They will know the hardware form day1.

Sony Boss Revealed Developers Will Help Build Next PlayStation

"Sony: Devs to help build the next PlayStation"

aslo if this is true then sony is already helping devs get the most out of it.

fun fact: only Hard Drives in the world that come in 256gb are ssd's..

so Basically I am saying if the consoles are not powerful enough the 3rd party devs that have to do more than 1st party devs will hit there potential limit fast.

1st party developers will always have the best looking games since they work only with one piece of hardware.
If bethesda was only working on ps3 the ps3 version of skyrim would be less buggy I guarantee you that.

FrostByte 2 will probably give new consoles a real push imo.

This console cycle has been so long devs are already prepared for it with new engines.
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SynGamer  +   1178d ago
I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you (but I am), however, since you bring up Ubisoft;

Assassin's Creed 3 > Assassin's Creed 2 > Assassin's Creed 1

It's a simple fact that game developers will always find a way to get more out of the hardware with each new game/product that release.
vortis  +   1178d ago
I could be wrong but I really doubt the UE4 and Luminous Engine will be pushed to their full potential on the PS4 and 720, just based on the leaked specs of both consoles and based on what we've seen from both engines.

I get the feeling that 3rd party devs will have to do A LOT of optimization to get the most out of the next gen consoles for truly next-gen games. Also, expect multiplatform titles down-scaled from the 720 and PS4 to look like utter garbage on the PS3 and Xbox 360.
Irishguy95  +   1173d ago
No Syngamer, they don't get more out of the hardware, the hardware is static. They learn to utilise it better.

Suitcase argument that has been used for years ~

The suitcase remains the same, but you can fit more depending on how well you fold the cloths.

Or something of that sort...
kevnb  +   1178d ago
I dont think you understand what he means, its not about how good it looks its about pushing the machines to the max. It can be done easily, and it will be done so that they know what they are working with.
gorebago  +   1178d ago
well said
emartini  +   1178d ago
Whats COD's engines exuse then??It always looks like trash and never looks any better.
hennessey86  +   1178d ago
Black ops 2
Looks quite nice and even when you turn on 3d it looks good
floetry101  +   1178d ago
Visuals aren't the game's prerogative, performance is. You have to sacrifice a certain level of visual fidelity in order to maximise frame-rate and control response times. It's as simple as at.

Look at any of the biggest multiplayer FPS's of past 15 years. Visuals come last.
momthemeatloaf  +   1178d ago
He's saying it more like this...

When we get a new car we put it on spin barrels and see how fast it goes. Once we know how fast it goes we know what we're working with. However, to get to our destination it will take a few rides before we learn the fastest routes. Similarly how it takes a few games to get the best out of a console.
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pangitkqb  +   1178d ago
@syngamer Even engine optimization has its limits because of the Law of Diminishing Returns.. I agree with you, however, that Mr. Blystad (of Hitman) is over-generalizing the truth about "maxing out" the next gen.

The article below is a great description of the limits of engine optimization:
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SynGamer  +   1178d ago
Good article. This is exactly why I hope the PS4 rumors are true. 1080p 60fps & 3D. If Sony can give developers hardware that can *easily* achieve those targets, then I have high hopes for next-gen. A lot of developers were quoted saying they wish the current-gen consoles had more RAM. And I'm sure they still want more with the new consoles, but really, it's all about the CPU and how much data can be processed.

Real-time calculations are generally "faked" because the current consoles just don't have enough processing power to do that AND output at 720p 30fps, let alone 1080p 60fps and in 3D. I'm not saying next-gen will be 100% real-time calculations, but it sounds like we'll be in for a treat. Especially considering the SDKs should be far more mature this time around than they were early on for the 360 and PS3.

Ultimately, the developers will still "max out" the next-gen consoles, and returns will diminish, but to claim this will happen within the first hour is just...talking out of his ass.
ajax17  +   1178d ago
Thats's exactly what I was going to say! Like, yeah dude, Naughty Dog didn't really max out until Uncharted 3.
Tonester925  +   1178d ago
Grand Theft Auto 5
vortis  +   1178d ago
lol @ fanboys who really think that GTA 5 on the 360 and PS3 will look the way it does in those press screenshots.

I'm going to say Battlefield 3.

And I'm going to point you to this:
Tonester925  +   1177d ago

WTF are you even talking about? I put GTA 5 because of how big the game would be not because of the graphics.
wheresmymonkey  +   1178d ago
So i'm guessing you didn't actually bother reading the article because that's exactly what the guy said.

He stated that they push the thing to breaking point and then spend the rest of the time refining everyhting so it works better. thats just how development of anything works.
Kurt Russell  +   1178d ago
Read the article before commenting SynGamer.

"They're fighting for resources and this fight is very healthy because it will make people optimize the different elements of the game"

It's easy to max out the system, then comes optimising the performance, hence why Uncharted 1 looked better than 2 and yada yada.
greenpowerz  +   1178d ago
That's not untapped power in PS3. Those games you mentioned are simple with linear game design. Sony can even make The Last Of Us 2 look better than 1 if they take the AI character out of the game and make the corridor game even tighter.

Shiny paint has little to do with what people are talking about related to console capability.

GTA4, GTA5, Skyrim, Red Dead Redemption, Halo @4, Horizon, Watchdogs and other games like that are true technical marvels and is in the end what devs are talking about and not Silent Hill type static, linear games.
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raymantalk1  +   1178d ago
your comment is very childish greenpowerz how old are you ?
Ben_Grimm  +   1178d ago
The article clearly states that optimization is key how could you not see this...wait..

So Syngamer gets a "Well Said" for being off topic and admitting to not reading the article?

Okay, I didn't understand how this site works but now I do. got it.
GraveLord  +   1178d ago
Yes, they will. They may maximize the console, but they they wont' optimize it.

Optimization is how you go from a game like Uncharted 1 to Uncharted 2.
jtenma  +   1178d ago
I disagreed Syn, here's why.

What he dev is talking about is similar to a Video Card Stability test for a PC. Something like Furmark.

What that does is test as much as possible loads on the GPU to see if it can remain stable.

Most likely developers don't mind burning out test models if that information can be used to make safer (obviously) and better running applications (optimized games). The later being made AFTER the console has been "maxed out" by the stability test.

So two unrelated topics that lead into each other, I guess...
showtimefolks  +   1178d ago
yeah tell that to bethesda who still can't figure out ps3, also than why didn't we see halo4,uncharted 3 quality games at launch if the devs are so smart to figure this thing out?

also why doesn't hitman look better when you could have maxed out the system?

WrAiTh Sp3cTr3

that's just dumb. its the age of internet people can learn stuff. if anyone has been gaming for 15-20 years they know a lot more than you think.

simple question look at games in 2005-2006 and now and see the difference so if developers could figure out how to use the system to its max why didn't we get the best quality games at launch? and that is why wii-u won't be used to its max for atleast 2 years till everyone can understand how it works in a positive and negative way
RustedMan  +   1178d ago
I agree with SynGamer.
"Black" is a good example.
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ALLWRONG  +   1178d ago
SynGamer he kinda said that?
HardCover  +   1178d ago
Didn't even read the one question. Go ahead and read it. You'll see how completely idiotic it is to say "no" in response to that. It's remarkably stupid.
Rush  +   1178d ago
I don't think people understand the difference between hardware being maxed out and games looking better over time.

Hence why dumb ass comments get so many agrees, someone could make a simple benchmark for a day one console launch and max out the hardware.....

Prime95 a simple CPU temp/stability testing piece of software less then 1MB in size maxes out any CPU on the market.

Games looking progressively better has nothing to do with maxing out hardware, maxing out hardware is simply running the hardware at full throttle so that it can't possibly give any more which has nothing to do with the visual quality of a game.
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T3MPL3TON  +   1178d ago
@SynGamer: He's actually telling the truth. They max it out on purpose. To see what the limits are. They'll create in house tech/animation demos just to push the system to it's limits from there they fraction the resources out as he said. People have no idea how taxing really great sound can be. The little things eat up resources. This is why some games have so/so graphics and great sound or vice versa. The thing is as time goes on they learn little tricks to make you think something looks better than it actually does. They call it smoke and mirrors but it's really just blurring and high pass filters.
KwietStorm  +   1178d ago
I don't know why you got all the agrees and a well said, when you didn't comprehend what the guy was saying. You actually kinda even explained it yourself. Using what's given to you and optimization are 2 different things.
Angainor7  +   1178d ago
Couldn't agree more!
Tzuno  +   1178d ago
You just saved me a long comment :). I agree.
Eyesoftheraven  +   1178d ago
That's what this means, "They're fighting for resources and this fight is very healthy because it will make people optimize the different elements of the game."
Bobby Kotex  +   1178d ago
Apparently you and the n4g community missed the point. Maxing out the system is independent of how optimized a game engine is. They're maxing it out at the beginning, but get better at using the resources over time.
Picnic  +   1177d ago
'Community'! It's generally a bunch of people who give a lengthy, well considered post a Disagree on the grounds that they didn't have the brainpower to understand it - or that it insults their pseudo intelligence. They appoint a handful of people who they regard as 'N4G legends' and give them a ludicrously high number of Agrees for their simplistic statements. And this is somehow elevated above what must be a considerable number of better written gaming websites. But that doesn't matter presumably because it is somehow more egalitarian to pat the medicore on the back more enthusiastically for their bullshit statements. And so I will get loads of Disagrees just for not being friendly. If you want friends get real ones.
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Tei777  +   1178d ago
Sorry but what @SynGamer said is more or less fact... The 30+ people who disagree need to have several seats!
SyWolf  +   1178d ago
No, they instantly max out the hardware. They just better utilize what the system can do over tme which is why Uncharted 2 look better then 1. Uncharted 1 maxed out the hardware, but they optimized the crap out of their code which is why Uncharted 2 looks better. Maxing out the hardware doesn't mean games can't look better on the system.
N4g_null  +   1178d ago
You guys are still confusing art with tech or code.

Uncharted's code never got better beyond small tweaks. It's art did. It still ran under 30 fps. Most of the time framerate was simply lowered.
Awesome_Gamer  +   1178d ago
@SynGamer: Well said, i don't understand how can he say they will be maxed out within minutes, The Last of Us looks a generation better than Uncharted 1 and both use the same engine. :/
LocutusEstBorg  +   1177d ago
Sorry none of those games had good graphics. All they had was good artwork. The graphics sucked. The textures were horrible with no filtering and objects were horribly jagged with no anti-aliasing and it ran at some pathetic resolution like 800x600.
thawind  +   1177d ago
@SynGamer Bubble for that.. many developers don't really change their engine throughout the life cycle of games console.
Intentions  +   1178d ago
Devs say this everytime, devs will always find ways to 'max' the console during their game development, when they make other games they will find out another way to 'max' the console for the games they make.

SynGamer  +   1178d ago
Not sure why someone disagreed. It's true, developers generally "max out" the platform they are working on...not because they've used everything they can, but simply because their game engine and methods leave a lot to be optimized over the coming years.

That's why Naughty Dog said they maxed out the PS3 with Uncharted 2...and then again with Uncharted 3. U3 was clearly a major improvement both visually and gameplay-wise. And early indications point to The Last of Us being a further improvement upon their previous work.
OmniSlashPT  +   1178d ago
I dont understand why people disagree. Its not only about the graphics. Tell me one PC game that has graphics, art style, animation and technology as the plane sequence in UC3? Or the boat sequence with dynamic ocean waves? Real time fire with the burning chateau? What about those sand particles? Im not even mentioning the characters animations that humiliate any pc game out there.

PC has 'better' graphics, but that doesnt mean it makes it more beautiful. You can have an hyper realistic painting but people would prefer Monet style because it's prettier, it has an unique art style and some meaning behind it. That's why Journey is nominated for Best Graphics at this years VGAs.
bubblebeam  +   1178d ago
In other words, they max out the consoles power witht what they have to work with (their engine etc).

Of course the title isn't trying to say that they won't improve the efficiency in which they work with the available power of the console, just that when ever a developer releases a game, that is generally them maxing it out.
TheLyonKing  +   1178d ago
Game Director's rarely have much insight on the the actual hard coding of a machine so I would listen to a dev over him and even then no one has got to grips with them yet so nobody can tell that.
N4g_null  +   1178d ago
That would be wrong. You have to know how to write code now.
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talisker  +   1178d ago
I was just thinking about buying Hitman but when I read such nonsense coming from its dev, I now have doubts if this game runs well on PS3. I'll wait then. Oh well, Mr Blystad, you won't be getting my money then. Next time think twice, man.
PersonMan  +   1178d ago
It runs great on all 3 systems.

Steady framerate at 30fps
No screen tearing
Looks great

I'd go ahead and pick it up for PS3 if I were you. It's a pretty fun game. You play the missions however you want.
The Meerkat  +   1178d ago
If all the CPU power was used to calculate Pi then you could indeed max it out.

I'm sure they once did something like that in an episode of Start Trek.
PersonMan  +   1178d ago
Just because it's maxed out, doesn't mean they're using it to it's fullest potential. Someone could max out the PS3 writing a Pong game if they wanted to.

I don't even think Sony were aware that the PS3 would be pushing graphics that look as good as Uncharted 3 when they first released the console. It really makes you think about how amazing the developers are with the limited hardware they have to work with.

The graphics on the PS3 keep getting better and better every year and I never had to upgrade it. It's great isn't it?
PinkFunk  +   1178d ago
Indeed. The solution isn't always to throw more processing power / ram at the machine. I mean, yes, it would certainly help a lot, but then you wouldn't get the benefits of seriously creative optimization and seriously creative art design.

A mix of both is key. Limitations in creative materials leads to interesting and novel developments. Of course, at some point, the tech will need to evolve. That time is soon, as many PC enthusiasts have pointed out. I agree. But my isn't it amazing to see how things have developed this generation? Excited to see Last of Us and GTAV!
jukins  +   1178d ago
One of the reasons I'm primarily a console gamer is that even though the graphics are sub par compared to a gaming PC, is that consoles tend to show graphical progression over the years without the need for upgrades since you can focus on one design spec.
sandman224  +   1178d ago
If that was the case then why wasn't the ps3 or 360 maxed out when they were released?
Sp1d3ynut  +   1178d ago
As far as IO Interactive is concerned, they were. Every game they've released this gen...Hitman Absolution included...has looked like crap.
MadMen  +   1178d ago
silly article
OmniSlashPT  +   1178d ago
It's not about the hardware limits. Good devs build great engines around it and try to get the maximum out of the hardware. Look at the Uncharted franchise, if you analyse each level and graphics, you'll see the amount of work they put into each detail which is covered by small tricks to make it look better than it actually does. That's not only a good engine, it's talent, it's a great team behind it.

Somehow 6-7 years into this generation, and PC games don't look 6-7 years ahead of consoles. I mean, is BF3 PC that much better than KZ3, Halo 4 or Uncharted 3? Sure it's more stable, better perfomance, but that doesnt make it more beautiful. There is not one single PC game that blows all console games out of the water, not even one.
knocknock  +   1178d ago
This is nonsense, anyone can see the vast improvement of new releases in comparison to launch titles.

This is why with all it's issues the wiiu won't be great but it will do ok, dev just need time to get there head around it, sucks really when you here so much negative news, for each new console launch, yet year after year these ageing machines support finer and finer products.

I fail to see the point in reporting that they will oven a program that will run a few different tasks to show the computing power, if that's all the articles about then no surprise then, this is basic stuff, even then optimisation is key still.
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Flatbattery  +   1178d ago
All this says to me is that some devs are never happy and are not up to a challenge.

I'd love to see how some of these coders would get on with an Atari 2600 or a Sinclair ZX Spectrum and get the results that some devs got on them.
Mikefizzled  +   1178d ago
Definitely didn't happen this gen due to games like Halo 4 and The Last of Us look and the fact they don't look like 2005/06 launch titles. I really doubt that it would happen next gen either.
badvlad  +   1178d ago
when does life engine come out?
_LarZen_  +   1178d ago
Who cares? As long as developers make great games..
Gr81  +   1178d ago
I call BS
Consoles have never been maxed in the first year let alone an hr.

I remember even during the NES/SNES/Genesis days games just always got better as devs got more experience with the hardware, graphical fidelity improved, and this is true of the 360/PS3 as well. Doesn't Uncharted 3 look better than Uncharted 1? Doesn't Halo 4 look better than 3?

Again, I call BS.
OneAboveAll  +   1178d ago
Funny, didn't seem like the 360 was maxed out when it's launch games were released. Many years down the line we have games like Halo 4 that make those games look like complete trash.
wolfofashes  +   1178d ago
I don't agree.I will give you all a very simple example as a reason:
You have a GPU that is good in raw poly count but not so good with anti aliasing,yet you don't know this because it is too early on the machine's life cycle or you simply want to shove standard AA on the frame anyway,and that implies in reducing the amount of detail you can have per model on the scene.That ladies and gentleman is not using power that IS there...waiting...untapped.
hellvaguy  +   1178d ago
Look at all the nerds coming out to agree over maximize vs. optimize. Just go outside already. Your embarrassing yourselves with such non-sense arguments.
NeoTribe  +   1178d ago
Coming from such a horrible developer means nothing. There games look like crap and play have the same gameplay as uncharted basically. When they make a game that looks remotely as good as uncharted they can start talkin dumbshit.
LDawgNL  +   1178d ago
Ofcourse they will be maxed out. Be that doesn't mean you can get better graphics with the same hardware.
It's all about effiency.
Braid  +   1178d ago
Well, of course they max the hardware out. Have you ever seen a developer saying: "Okay, let's not use this 20 percent of the hardware power just for the fun of it."

Engine updates are what you're talking about when graphics improvement is concerned in sequels. Devs write new codes, find new ways to push better visuals, with the same hardware and again, by using the hardware "at max". If that wasn't the case, you wouldn't see any FPS drops or tearing issues at all: those show you that the hardware is struggling to handle the code.

Believe it or not, even the sh#ttiest developers max the hardware out if they're incompetent on optimizing their code.
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Mkai28  +   1178d ago
Anybody can max out a new piece of hardware quickly if your just cram it with a bunch of crappy coding, but game devs do this to see what they have to work with. Example: You want Halo 5 to run at 60fps and run at 1080p. You have HIgh Rez textures, Advanced AI, motion capture programs, ect. But you see that the system is at it's max. So something has got to give. You either take it lower to 720p, or cut the framrate in half to 30fps, or take away some of those textures.

This is what happens when developers work on new hardware, thus is why launch games don't really look all that spectacular. Now when they figure it out more down the months and years. That same game will run better, have better sound, textures, frame rates because the time they spend with it and able to "unlock" more of its potential.

I think Sony will be easier to develop for then the PS3 because of not having the Cell and change of memory designs. The next Xbox may be even easier already rumored to have the 360's hardware specs already in it including the 720 unknown specs.
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kingduqc  +   1178d ago
Of course, they use old hardware. Sure dev can tweak and optimise, show a bit of magic tricks to make the game looks better. They will do that the whole generation, they don't have a choice. In the end we end up with sub 720p games that barely run at 30 fps, not sure if that's what yuo call a "great experience".
Hicken  +   1177d ago
So is this a "consoles suck because their hardware is static, and PC is better cuz I can upgrade it whenever some new comes out" kinda post?

Cuz if so, it's pretty lame and unnecessary.

On topic, saying something like this is misleading, and I believe intentionally so. Yes, he DOES say that optimization is key, but the "maxing out" he's talking about isn't what people mean when they say the same.

I mean, unless I'm wrong, most people mean that a FULLY WORKING GAME maxes out the system. Not having one aspect or another do it.

Like I said, I could be wrong about what most other people think of. But I know that's what I think of when that phrase is used.

And, in that case, this dev is wrong.
sdozzo  +   1178d ago
Did anyone else have to read the title five times... "in within..."
Tornadobounce  +   1178d ago
Haha no shit.
Jek_Porkins  +   1178d ago
Don't a lot of current developers say there is still plenty left in the current consoles? I don't think they will be maxed out within an hour at all. Look at the release games for the Xbox 360, games like Prey and Saints Row, they were both great games, but hardly touched the true power of the Xbox 360, seven years later you get a great and true HD Halo game for the first time.

So I call BS on that.
Picnic  +   1178d ago
You know, it's unfashionable to say but a few parts of Uncharted : Drake's Fortune were more interesting than anything the sequels came up with. It's bound to be that way- they didn't make the original game to be underwhelming in retrospect. It's a really hardcore game in ways that the sequel aren't, apart from the closing chapters of Uncharted 3.

I love the jetskis part - the sequels give you no vehicles to control that take properly mastering.
Even in terms of graphics that more cartoony look (which they toned down in the sequels) was sometimes very compelling such as in explosions.

Uncharted 2 was arguably Naughty Dog's highpoint of the series, for single player anyway. It's just the most rounded (and easiest) game in the series with some of the finest graphical touches that look like the work of no other developer and it doesn't go fully sadistic on you.
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annus  +   1178d ago
N4G, the place where nobody reads the article. He doesn't state that games will not improve from the first hour onwards (don't know how anyone here thinks a game can be made in an hour), he says they max the hardware which isn't hard to do. It takes about 5 minutes to max anyones computer using cryengine, you open up the editor and drop in 1million barrels and your computer will more than likely crash.

If you read the article he says that they 'make a bucket for who is getting what from the memory and performance' to see what is 'fighting for resources and this fight is very healthy because it will make people optimize the different elements of the game'.

I'm amazed after this many years N4G still allows articles with headings like this to be released.
stone_cold  +   1178d ago
It will be calling PS 720
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