I know it's not the most important issue this election, but interesting none the less. What will this mean for gamers if she's elected. Discuss
and i hate hillary....
Good thing it looks like she won't be the Democratic candidate.
at worst she'd enforce ESRB. which i think is a good move. they'll never be able to censor video games, only rate it so that some carriers won't carry it. if it leads to less whiney 12 years old begging their grandmas for gta, then i'm all for it.
I personally get a bad taste in my mouth whenever I hear her name - but I doubt as much as she is against it that she could ever get them banned in this country. Make it harder to sell them? Yes. Ban them as a whole? Not in this country.
does Hilary hate violent movies, novels, or tv shows? Cuz I tell ya, I've seen much worse in Hostel than I've ever seen in any videogame. And there's a rating system anyway so the precious "children" who must never be exposed to this type of stuff will not be unless an uninformed parent buys it for them. Hilary is just exploiting a hot topic amongst the uninformed to get votes.
That's why you should vote for Mike Huckabee.
vote for Ron Paul so there will be no regulations like gaming regulation, Net Neutrality, and etc. Ron Paul is for individual freedom and small government!!! Gamers and the rest of America unite!!! We don't need big corporate government nonsense!!!
She actually does, this really isn't just an attempt to flame her. She agrees with alot of Jack Thompson's policies, and if she was on her period (lord forbid), we would see a Nuke strike and the end of video games all in the same week. Thanks aunt flow. LOLOLOLOLOL. JK, seriously though she sucks. I'm tired of her bashing Obama because people see him as a more realistic outlet for change.
i hate hillary, and this just justifies it.
john mccain 08
McCain is a dried up prune who would do absolutely no good for America. Vote Obama, change is now.
Ba-Rack the vote!
Vote Obama and McCain. Oh, and Hillary...
this is why we dont need her in office, sh!t we dont need any woman in office, all they want to do is mess over all the fun stuff and say oh this causes violent people it needs to be banned, so when election day comes vote republican, sh!t vote for a monkey for all i care just as long as this prick is not voted into office
I'd rather vote Obama. I dislike McCain's policies very much, and the republican rule needs to end.
either way it is better than hillary
love how easily Obama has brain-washed the gullable youth of this nation. "Yes , we can!" How about, "Yes, we will!" All I've heard out of his mouth is promises. No concrete details on how to do most of his proposals, and being afraid of actually bringing them up in debates. When was the last time we had someone do this? Why, our current President! What an awesome choice that was, my fellow Americans! /sarcasm Besides looking at fun and entertainment and whether a candidate likes video games or doesn't, consider the REAL issues. I.E.: Global problems, economy, health care. Obama says, "well, I'll meet with the terrorist leaders." Is he out of his mind? Since when have these people shown any desire to negotiate peace? They're FANATICS! Added to this, China and Russia are growing in power and we might soon find ourselves in yet another Cold War! WE can't have someone as inexperienced and new to the game as Obama representing our country. We need someone experienced, and the only democratic choice is Hilary. And to all the people voting against her because she's a woman... way to be an American and tolerate others!!! Not...
Here in Australia, Our liberal prime minister took this country out of debt, Lowered the 15% interest rate down to 4.5% or something like that.
And last election he got voted out for the very party that brought this country into debt.
OH oh..and now interest rates are rising and rising
Only country to EVER vote out a party when they were doing well.
HAHA people RULE!!
Lastdance: Sounds like the Aussie liberal party is for things a bit different than the democratic party here in the US. Obama's tax plans look to double many of the taxes currently in place to be able to pay for government programs he would like to implement. I am not saying its good or bad (it's bad...) but a democrat in the white house would not lower taxes. Interest rates are set often to offset ways that the economy is swinging. Right now we have low low interest rates since they are trying to stop us from going into recession. Usually high interest rates mean they are trying to stop inflation since the economy is chugging right along. Sorry had to jump in and make sure you don't compare the US and Aussie liberals in the same way. Cheers.
Edit: just reread that you didn't mention taxes, you were talking about the interest rate all along. Well high taxes will get you out of debt in no time. I say keep the taxes low and cut back on un-needed government programs. :)
I would totally say move to Canada, but they just follow what the US does the conservative way. Sad thing is its usually better...
Oh i wasnt doing any comparing at all really:P
you just have to be careful about the young leaders. They seem fresh and enthusiastic but its usually the old bores who get the job done right.
Having said that from what ive seen, Obama looks to be a decent man and possible president!
Wish edwards had gotten some more screen time.......or Gore would run.
Unfortunately those are the canidates for the democrats, and they are way better than McCain IMO, so more likely than not it's Obama. Still, our first black president(no racisim here) or our first women president..... *smacks forhead*.
You mention a bunch of details about how we need a strong experienced decisive leader then you conclude that Hillary is the choice. To me that's a total contradictory statement. Her campaign so far has been to try to adapt to her opponents so that she can in turn mold into what she believes America wants at this point. Also I'm slowly starting to dislike the democratic party as much as the Republican party. Both have major flaws, but I'm starting to think that the higher ups in the democratic party are just plain weak. They try to bend to what the people want, but you can't satisfy everyone. If things went their way then we'd have an early form of communism on our hands. I mean they cry about this, they cry about that, somalia, south africa, Iraq, but the moment we send troops over they cry to bring them back. It's all talk to them. At one point you have to come out and make solid stances on subjects whether you'll create a solid divide or not. Although the common thing to say is that Bush is dumb and what not, I personally believe he knows what he's after no matter how eschewed it might seem to the public who i believe know far less then he and his advisor's do when it comes to national affairs. I want a president that will stay solid so we don't get surprised. I mean do you really think that if we pack our bags and leave Iraq then things will be fine? The country would literally implode if we left and it will eventually effect America. Where would you rather have the war? Our soil or theirs?
Yes I CAN... I can vote for him! :o)
No wonder why she "was winning" the Woman vote by a landslide.
I say let the parent decide the Parents need to take control. Yes we can.
How about trying a little gun control instead? Just a thought.
Everybody agree's we need some control with adult content. What you said Hillary would never talk outloud about. If she wins WI, TX etc. and gets the nomination(super Delagets should jump? Hillarys ship) that would be the last thing she would be spewing she has to win over conservitves and other right wing factions from the old man lol.
Who's dissagrreing with my post up there?, Hillary supporters or fanatical PS3 children? with malice so great they hit dissagree at the mere site of my user name. lol.
I'm a conservitive. But a Canadian one
No offence. I'm Mod DEM close to conservitve on the Blue side.
I think that's what I saw on the news in the lastest shooting...but it may have been 3
definitely some gun control...but very doubtful anything will happen anytime soon
I'm with you Genesis, Conservative Canadian...welllll more like anti-Liberal:P
"but very doubtful anything will happen anytime soon"... was my point.
Hope you didn't dissagree with me although I can understand being from another country.
Could be some low life PS3 children doing the dissagreeing.
EDIT #9 I'm assuming you're from a different country judging by that *IGNORANT RANT* your Bendictive and belligerent attatude tells me you have no clue of what the hell you're talking about.
Parties in the states are very different from eachother as are people incharge.
Man I hope you're from another country please god I hope you are, GET off the PS3 man.
Thats not me putting those disagrees on there. I wasn't offended. You haven't said any thing I disagree with yet. And if you did I would do it in civil manner. I'm little c conservitive. I have noticed you have a few s.o.b.'s that seem to follow you around slapping disagrees on your posts. I don't think they even read what you're saying. Which really isn't fair.
Thought I read somewhere in the policy to disagree with PoG's comments. Just kidding man. Probably just some bitter people. Don't worry about it. People get disagrees all the time for no reason. Just something that won't go away.
only problem with gun control is criminals dont follow laws, i think the only solution would be much much harsher punishment for people who commit crimes with guns.
take it from a cop- gun control does not work. i take that back- it worked great for the nazis and other tyrants all through history. kevin is right. its too easy to blame a gun or video game for an individuals free will. blame the individual. one thing they keep talking about is the fact that the recent college shooter played alot of violent games. too bad they forget to point out that most every young man does. enforcing the laws you have would be a good start. stoping revolving door justice would be next and making prison a place that people dont want to go seems logical.
hillary grow up. Of course u hate games cause ur old and u never played video games before!! and if you dont love it live it!!!!
you might want to try and reach her through an e-mail.
I love how easily Obama has brain-washed the gullable youth of this nation. "Yes , we can!" How about, "Yes, we will!" All I've heard out of his mouth is promises. No concrete details on how to do most of his proposals, and being afraid of actually bringing them up in debates. When was the last time we had someone do this? Why, our current President! What an awesome choice that was, my fellow Americans! /sarcasm Besides looking at fun and entertainment and whether a candidate likes video games or doesn't, consider the REAL issues. I.E.: Global problems, economy, health care. Obama says, "well, I'll meet with the terrorist leaders." Is he out of his mind? Since when have these people shown any desire to negotiate peace? They're FANATICS! Added to this, China and Russia are growing in power and we might soon find ourselves in yet another Cold War! WE can't have someone as inexperienced and new to the game as Obama representing our country. We need someone experienced, and the only democratic choice is Hilary. And to all the people voting against her because she's a woman... way to be an American and tolerate others!!! Not...
The people with experiance have made America hated by many countries in the world the people with experiance gets us in trouble.
What you're saying doesn't even make any sense.
You clearly have not been paying attention if you think Obama has layed out policies in detial, he has done so more than any other canidate has talked about actaully.
The so called fanatics biggest problem is an invasion of Christain powers(USA) on their Holy land running about against their will, talking is better than killing due to them not wanting us around.
If they smell OIL ! they kill 10000000 people to get it and now they hate violence. LOL Funny
'pro life' my @ss kids can buy guns @ wallmart but it's so much easier to make a case that the few psychos who go on a killing spree where gamers: who hasn't ever played a FPS these days? it's called demagogy: the political art of finding weak points in popular culture that are guarantied to score in the ballot box. we should all develop a radar against that: a 'demagodar' and never vote for the pigs who beep on the demagodar like clinton and thomson. whenever I hear 'war on terror' or 'war on drugs', my demagodar beeps like crazy!
she also hates free blowjobs
sh1t she would probably start taxing on bj's too..
So does every other politician.
wtf is she talking about video games only for? what about hollywood movies ? some kids will play games to take out aggression instead of on the streets somewhere, this is what they want to stop, they want kids to go around causing real life terror instead of in the videogame world...they are trying to find ways to get kids to behave stupidly again since the adolescent crime rates are down, that means no money comes into the justice system....
secondly, anyone who votes in america is wasting their time, because the president is SELECTED..NOT ELECTED...and if you people can't tell by now, do some research
I did some research, and I found that our government is a democracy. You obviously don't know what that means, but it means we vote and ELECT, the pres. isn't SELECTED retard. Do you want us to be communist like China?
Obama said he believes the video game community should police itself. Google it. And holy crap me and power of green agree on something.
It can happen. I've agreed with him a couple of times.
Funny how the most vicious, most unethical candidate left in the election is the one getting up on the soap box like this. True irony
She obviously has never played one of these games, because if she did---well, actually, never mind. She would never understand the entertainment value of these games. She's so vehement against something she has never experienced. I do, however, agree on that state. I believe that M games shouldn't be sold to minors on the bounds simply that the ESRB has these ratings for a reason. I think they should card kids. Simple as that. Some places have started this practice. Being 19, I agree with the idea to make it illegal to sell M games to those under 17 as the rating suggests. Of course, that could just be because the law wouldn't affect me. XD
I think it's great that Obama has not been blaming violence on videogames..but unfortunately Obama for some reason (maybe cause he is a rookie or maybe just his crazy thinking) has been coming up with some crazy plans. He wants to raise the tax on capital gains and dividends from 15% to near 30%. It sounds like old-fashioned tax on the rich to give to the poor..but its much more than that. When you raise taxes on investors..it discourages investing big time. The same thing happened in Germany a while ago and their economy has been pretty poor since. Businesses need investors in order to generate capital which allow them to grow and create more jobs. Obama has also not been good with respect to pork barrel spending (he himself has committed this for his state of Illinois). Although he would probably be good with respect to our world standing he really has no clue on how the economy works and his domestic policy plans show that.
libs love it.
This is BS. What else is new. When have politicians ever shown a desire to actually tell parents to do their damn jobs and watch what they buy for their children and also what they play.
This is why if I was American I would vote Obama.
...and violent video games hates hillary clinton if she gets elected im moving to canada
Ron Paul FTW.
Too bad America is full of sheeps. If the media gave everyone fair coverage Ron Paul would win.
I agree. Anyone see that one debate where Obama and Hilary just squabbled the entire time, and Edwards got about 5 minutes of the whole hour?
Xbox is the Best, what does the bottom of your avatar say? It's a bit too fuzzy to read.
sheeps? go to school?
sheeps. School? Read your Constitution it is the Supreme Law of the Land. The Founding Farthers warned us against a Centralised Bank but today we have the Fereral Reserve, no income taxing but today we have the I.R.S. (Keep the fruits of our labor) and no intanglement in other nations internal affairs (Middle East). Why do we have military bases in 170 countries? If Russia or China had military bases on U.S. soil how whould Americans feel? The Dems promise free healthcare, were is that money coming from? Raising taxes. Amreica is $9 Trillion in debt thanks to politicians but we working people have to pay for it. The Government does not own us.
"The best Government is the Government which governs the least" - Thomas Jefferson
@ Xplosneer it says "And I could snap at any minute"
sounded good, until you find out just how weak the green party is with the military. we live a world that requires us to take decisive force of action against evil whenever and wherever it suits or strategy. war sucks but is unavoidable.
Well, considering that she and I disagree on almost every issue she stands on, I kind of already assumed that she would take that side, seeing my stance on video games.
Can't wait to hear the conspiracy theories about how Clinton and Fox news are in bed together (tongue firmly in cheek). Us in the gaming community are the target from EVERY outside source. Whether it be news saying games cause people to shoot fellow students, or girlfriends/wives saying they are a total waste of time. If you don't play them, you usually have a bad image of them. If they start censoring, we have worse things to worry about than games.
she should worry about give bill some head
She's artificial. Brain-washed by Obama or not, she moved from Arkansas to New York for the sole purpose of running for the president. She hasn't done anything in NY as a senator except to raise her public image for her run at this presidency. Republican or Democrat, this is the kind of politics that needs not be in the US. This makes me wonder what can she honestly do as a president.
tend to agree with you in regard to this issue on Hillary even though I'm leaning toward the Rep. candidates. Not that all politicians aren't conniving individuals, but you could just tell to what length she went through to raise her public image as the good mother, wife and than maybe a president? When Bill was getting a BJ by Monica L., she's portrayed as the perfect wife in supporting her cheating-ass husband while trying to keep her family together for the sake of Chelsea Clinton. Why did she do that? Honestly, I don't believe it's because she really cares for Bill, she twisted it to her advantage for her future platform/fan-base to raise her public recognition as a strong/independent woman (not that there's anything wrong with that) to get her vote for this election. I'll bet the last hair on my hairy-ass that Bill hasn't gotten a BJ from anyone since that incident.....
Clinton was a president for 8 Years. 8
George bush is a president for 8 years. 8
His father was a president for 8 years. 8
And now Clinton for 8 years ?
2 Families ruling the U.S for 32 years ???????? cOMONNNNNNNN
Let's try Obama
Need to correct you.
vice prez for 8 yrs
prez 4 yrs
This makes your point even more.
but i just hate her face i really dont want her to be the face of america (to young to vote anyway) so its out of my hands. she says "games should be treated like pronography" the games she are refering to are M rated games which you have to be 17 or have a parentto buy anyway. so i see as more as "parent wtf problem" not a videogame industry problem that needs to be amended even in the slightest