If you are now the proud owner of a brand spanking new Nintendo Wii U console, we have a feeling that one of your launch games purchased was Black Ops 2. It’s now available to play on Nintendo’s new system for the first time and we already have a fantastic video for you to watch, giving you an initial look at how those ‘next gen’ Wii U graphics compare vs the Xbox 360 and PS3 versions of the game.
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But this is what happens when a developer takes their time and doesn't rush stuff. Bare minimum they achieve parity, but in a case like this, the graphics seem to have a slight bump. It doesn't 1up the competition, but it's at least good to know that the visuals "look to be" slightly enhanced.
My only question is - What version of the game was it being compared to. Because we all know that the 360 and PS3 versions have been compared and there are differences between the two of them. But in this comparison, they are lumped together like they are the same visually, which isn't necessarily the case.
I'll bet it compares to the 360 version like the 360 version compares to the ps3 version.
Frankly, I smell agenda. Why would you say "PC version and 360 version" when you're using the worst version as the example?
I didnt see any difference, maybe that small window was the case..
However that still means that it does look crisper than the PS3 at least. Slightly better alpha textures like the smoke/fire especially with the helicopter landing and the trucks burning as well. I suspect that it won't beat the 360 version very much and that they will look very similar. But generally it seems quite crisp and stable framerate wise.
Its not very in depth this analysis but its one of the earliest comparison videos I could find.
I am sure later we'll see a bunch of professional in depth comparisons.
In order in terms of graphics:
PC > Xbox > WiiU > PS3
EDIT: Im probally getting disagreed by PS3 Fanboys.. Just admit that Treyarch fucked up with the PS3 version
In all fairness, the differences between all of them are quite small. Nobody's stopping to to think "damn, that grass looks a bit blurry, I wish it looked sharper" on the PS3 version.
I can't see any difference really between the Wii U version on this video, or the Xbox version from Eurogamers 360 vs PS3 video.
@DoomeDx
It's a small difference to me, it's CoD. Nobody has ever cared about the graphics. It's a noticeable difference, but nothing that's gonna stop me from enjoying the game.
THIS is a big difference
http://gamerinvestments.com...
Does look higher rez. Could still be 880 x 720 tho like 360 and ps3 and be claimed by activision as 'native 720p' cos well...they are sneaky like that.
The diffrence in Black Ops 2 for the PS3 is NOT a small diffrence..
Its horrible. Blurry, resolution is way lower, and the textures are alot blurrier too.
This should have been made a selectable option as in BF3.
The Wii U version looks very clean and playable much closer to a mid/low range PC (Dual core + NV5800GTS).
It's Cod so who cares. Now if BF3 was for wiiU that would be a game to see compared to ps3 & 360.
Also is this video saying wiiU is better than pc verson? They must sell nintendo crack in nintendo land.
If I liked cod I would still get the 360 version since it's bound the most stable.
Compare the gun skin (simpler on WiiU), scope reflection.
Of course the video's not exactly very high-res since they're using exactly 1/4 of my screen for each video feed. There's no wait to get a better comparison.
Yaaawn!
1. That's not the PC version! Looks like the PS3 version!
2. It's just call of Duty. Don't expect great graphics!
3. COD is meant to look the same on all platforms cause frame rate is important!
4. the PC version however is capable of looking better thanks to the capabilities of the PC
5. Wake me up when a second generation Nintendo WiiU game gets released.
6. No first generation game on new consoles really look all that great anyway!
7. Can the Wiiu Run Crysis PC? We don't know cause Ninty has been so secretive about the GPU specs! Give me an article on that instead of a stupid comparison!
8. Hows the WiiU COD MP online capabilities? are they as good as the other platforms!
9. WiiU vs. PS3/x360 = Graphics Challenge and comparisons but....... PS3/X360 vs. PC = "Oh graphics don't matter", why is that lol?
10. Laughs at another half arse article about a generic shooter.....then goes back to playing Chivalry: Medieval Combat
http://www.ign.com/articles...
To those saying "this isn't a game made to take advantage of the Wii U", of course it isn't. If it was it wouldn't be running on the other systems also, as any multiplatform title has to cater to the lowest common denominator in order to ensure that it can run on every system that it is made for. It is possible to add higher res textures or something like that, but it's rare that developers will take the extra time (and therefore money) to add features to one console that the others will not get, especially for a console with a small install base like Wii U currently has when compared to the other 2. The fact remains that, because Wii U is launching at the tail end of the current generation, it's going to have current gen ports for at least another year. So, such comparisons are valid, for now. However, this person completely ignored what resolution or frame rate the game is running at, and that can make all the difference in the world when the PS3/360 version are running at sub HD natively (then upscaling to 720p @30fps, as many COD games are well known for) and the Wii version is hitting 1080p60 (not saying this is the case, but these things need to be pointed out when making a comparison). You can't really pick out native resolution from a heavily compressed "1080p" youtube video running at just over 3.5mbps. For those of you that don't know much about video encoding, blu-ray 1080p runs at between 16-40mbps (and even that is heavily compressed from uncompressed 1080p, which clocks in at just over 186MBps). That's a LOT of quality loss going on, and not good for comparison.
Wake me when the Wii U/Orbis/Durango comparisons start coming out.
This video lost all credibility when it included PC in the mix (especially without even showing the PC version)... A top of the line gaming PC today would EASILY smoke anything Wii U could do... without even breaking a sweat.
It's completely moronic people don't understand that a game that has more time to be developed of course is going to look marginally better.
It is pathetic they are even comparing anything as of now really.
Like I said when games are released on all systems all at the same time, then I will care to see a comparison of the Wii U. If they keep ending up like this and Wii U always has longer development times then no wonder why those versions of those ports will look better, they have been updated to look better simply because they had more time to improve the games from past versions.
It honestly doesn't have crap to do with the Wii U and for sure is not any proof that it's graphics are better than it's competitors at this time.
Not like I care that much about graphics or like I buying one but still these comparisons are crap and I would like to see better ones in the future.
Thing is they had probably finished other versions first before the release date regardless which probably gave them more than just 5 days from other releases to work on it. That is common sense as well but ok.
Trust me they also had dev kits ages ago and BLOPS is not my main issue all the other ports that had a ton of fucking time are which are always being the only comparison shots like Batman and AC3.. now BLOPS.
Did I even mention BLOPS 2 before though really? No, don't think I did. Sure I implied what I did and it's here but I was speaking in general obviously but I never directly said anything about it.
I mean it's pretty clear this is once again another really crappy comparison. On top of the fact I am watching this crap in 1080p and there is no significant difference other than slightly better coloring and the blur seems to lacking while the PS3 still has it, the textures are also more pixelated on the Wii U not by much but it's noticeable, I can notice that right off the bat with the weapons and scope during the fighting and don't forget the added flames to cars.. wow how stunning..
So unless you are also watching this in 1080p I don't want to hear it. I am very sure they could do all that in a measly 5 days, sorry.
When you bump the texture resolution down like that it's noticeable and I could careless if the Wii U was better at the point, it clearly runs at lower texture res than a PS3 does still.
What is sad people are arguing about graphics when the Wii U clearly has no big jump on any of the older systems. From a graphical perspective that just blows, as those systems are really old and can still do just about the same if not better from what I notice.
I just don't understand why anyone would even buy Black Ops 2 or any of these ports on the Wii U, I am pretty sure everyone owns them all practically already on other systems.
I mean I understand if Wii U is your first big console but I seriously doubt that.
What a difference though.... I have 20/20 vision and a 60 inch LED, 1080p HDTV and set at 1080p res... which my computer is connected to.. So I guess if it isn't looking better than the PS3 on this TV.. I don't know when it ever will.
...in his mind.
While it can run better on a high-end configuration, it can also run poorer on a computer which has aging hardware. You can't simply come up and say "Hey, here's the PC version", as there's no definitive PC version of ANY game, with trillions of different configurations existing. You can say "it's how the game looks on a high-end system" though, which would give you a rough representation of the game's visuals on high detail, but again, it wouldn't give you any indication regarding the game's performance, as there's no single, definitive hardware representing the PC platform as consoles do.
Not that they show the PC version in this video, but do the PC footage on comparison videos use DX11 or DX9? How about advanced graphics options like texture sizes, shadow detail, anti-aliasing, resolution? You have to be extra careful when you compare the console version with the PC version, or else you'd be comparing apples to oranges.
that's the only thing that makes any console any generation, lol.
the new ps and xbox will be out then lol so who cares.
Have you seen Assassin's Creed 3? This is definitely not the best looking game for the Wii U.
It's much more pronounced when you view on a 60" TV in person then on youtube.
I have AC3 for PS3 and I can only imagine it looks even better on the Wii U with a more stable framerate. It already looks killer on the PS3.
Also, for the record, playing AC3 on the PS3 was fine. Yeah, it slowed down in some areas but so what, it was still an amazing experience. I'm not going to buy a whole new console and get used to a new controller just for a smoother framerate. It was still fun.
Nothing we've seen on the Wii-U out and upcoming trumps anything this gen, not saying that it never will, but from what we've seen the Wii-U's hardware isn't looking very powerful.
Is the framerate high and stable?
How does off tv play work?
Are there any bugs?
This is the closest anyone seems to
Want to get to overviewing the wiiu version... but pop-up ads keep me out of even this...-_-;
Next gen can render eyewear...so there!
I can just see the next Top Gun game being a Wii U exclusive because other consoles simply can't do aviators nearly as well.
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Once again it is just a simple port. THATS IT.
one player even said that he feels no lag and he felt like he was playing with 4 bars even tho it was 3 bars but on other consoles he always felt like he had a distinct disadvantage when playing with 3 bars against 4 bar players, but on the wiiU he said it felt more even.
im sure if u look youtube u will find the exzact video as it was one of the first up with online play, dont just take my word for it i havent even played the thing yet.
Im looking forward even more to getting mine now after seeing how it performs with games like cod and these are just ports.
treyarch must found some hidden power in the Wii U
lol
There is an eDRAM chip situated very close to the CPU and GPU. They can buffer graphics resources in eDRAM and render a range of objects which use them, then load something else into eDRAM and render the objects that use the new data (multiple times in 1 frame). 360 also has an eDRAM chip but it will inevitably be slower and lower capacity (games use it to store the buffer for deferred rendering). When the PS3 and 360 are rendering they use their memory which is faster than the Wii-U's main memory but far slower than the eDRAM; this, RAM capacity and shader performance are the bottlenecks for graphics - all of which are better in the Wii-U for.
Hence, the memory speed/bandwidth is not a sever
As for the CPU, pure quoted speed in GHz barely means anything, the transistor layout, feature set and fabrication process are all superior to old chips.
Sony and MS will no doubt have greatly more powerful machines next gen, but the Wii-U is more capable than the 360 and PS3.
I don't even think BL2 is using the eDRAM effectively though. They probaly almost directly ported over the 360's code (might need to use OpenGL instead of D3D), then ramped up the settings a bit.
Graphics Beyond Realism
All versions are 99% the same content wise.
Textures on 360/PS3/WII U are the same.
PS3/360 Run at sb hd and are upscaled.
360 has true aa, PS3 has filter. Reminds me of GTA4.
WII U version is true 720p with 2aa.
I don't know the framerates of said versions.
PC does not count. It's limitless.
I'm hoping to see more game comparisons.
If we judged a console purely on launch day ports, then the 360 and it's version of the PS2 western game Gun would have been tossed on the scrap heap, just like a bunch of people are willing to do with the Wii U. Just enjoy the damn games people, THAT'S what it's about, not raw horsepower. If it was just about that then we'd all be gaming on nothing but PC's as they will blow away anything that Sony and MS announce next year.
If COD played better on the Wii U than the usual consoles, that properly would win over a purchase, any feedback would be awesome!.
My brother wouldn't care for any of the fancy specs of the machine, just wants something cool to play on, Can I ask if it has any kind of Trophy/achievement like system?
Would be cool if he had a reason to collect the daft bits n' pieces here n' there in games like Batman ect.
On a serious note, I'm loving the Wii U. Switching between apps could be faster, but I'll suffice.
As a matter of fact, I'm posting this from the Wii U browser, which runs excellent by the way.
Edit: Forgot to mention that I love playing Black Ops 2. I initially had no intention on buying the game, but I wanted some online multiplayer since Super Mario, ZombiU and NintendoLand lack such a feature.
It runs smooth, and I actually prefer the GamePad over the Pro Controller when playing online. I love that a guest can use your TV as their own screen while you play on a GamePad, despite the clear hit the framerate takes.
it may look similar, but what you don't see are the hidden details being rendered in the wiiu version.
in the wiiu version, every soldier and human character has their entire body anatomy (down to blood cells) rendered in real time. thats every bone, every muscle, every strand of hair, every micro organism rendered in real time. This helps to create a sense of realism in the wiiu version above and beyond the ps3/360 versions.
also, the wiiu version is not just rendering what you see of the environment. the wiiu version takes place in the universe. what you see on the screen is actually taking place in a real time render of the entire universe, galaxy, solar system and earth- in real time.
so, everything in the universe, from entire galaxies, down to grains of sand- all rendered in real time in black ops, while you play.
The wiiu version simulates every element on the periodic table. so that is a scientifically a accurate model of oxygen that those characters are breathing. the oxygen even circulates through the characters lungs.
there are many other groundbreaking and innovative uses of the wiiu technology in the wiiu version of black ops, but most cant be seen with the naked eye.
its also suspicious how nobody ever mentions these additions
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