GV: The Wii U will brick if you shut it down during an ongoing firmware update.
That's freakin' huge o_O
Its not a problem i am sure you can hit the Del key when the system boots up, load the backup bios ... oh wait nvm.
Nintendo needs to learn about the online component of consoles. You just cannot release a 5GB update out of nowhere without any kind of backup to restore the console in case of any mishap. Not everybody can download 5Gb within an hour. Many people will need a whole day and anything can happen between that time to brick the console.
There is no del key stupid.
^^^^^ Dumb ass!
It's more expensive than the PS3 and 360 and at least 6 years late and still behind. I will wait on a better model.
Ya its big and will this even fit on the 8gb model, I mean isn't over 4 gigs already used by the system or is this supposed to be part of that already used 4 gigs?
Of course it will fit on all models. These are the joys of a launch for a new system. I imagine the phone lines for customer service will be long and frustrating. Hopefully there is a backup plan if your power gets disconnected or you accidentally unplug your device while it's trying to update the system. I said before that it will be awhile before everything on the Wii U is running properly. That's one of the reasons why I'm waiting. Nintendo's inexperience when it comes to online gameplay and apps is already being reviewed. It's slow and not everything is functional just yet.
the 8gb model is really 3gbs..
Yeah, it's pretty big ;)
Fu*k you Geoff! Being able to download 5 gigs in an hour! God, I hate time warner's slow internet!
Time Warner isn't slow. its just the cheap internet package you have. They have over 50MB/s so i can assure you, its just your package. Of course i don't have them. i have Charter with a 30MB connection. Its beautiful ;)
My power went out in the middle of the update and bricked it. So I'm already on my second wii u. lol.
What is the friend code to download this update?
First Wii U brick reported: Do not shutdown during firmware update - this is common knowledge!!!!
Yeah that's what I was about to say lol! Why the hell would anyone shut it down during an update?
There's a backup state usually. PS3 updates again when you reset it during a firmware update.
If only life was that simple; where I live powercuts are quite frequent and now I'm worried it might happen during firmware update and leave me with an expensive door stop :( Thing is, it being a new system, there are bound to be a fair few updates coming in for the rest of the year.
No one probably but what if there is a power cut etc? I hope there is a way to initiate a system restore.
lets hope nintendo doesnt have control over our power then ;]
You see, most of the time this is said as a general rule and common sense, like "dont use cellphones in a thunderstorm"... but what also is common sense is that any hw maker worth their salt would know that million things can happen and a fail-safe is needed; for instance, its unbelievable the wii u will brick while DOWNLOADING the update... i mean, what is it doing? downloading and writing the pieces as it gets? the usual (and tried-and-true) way is to download the file,verify it and only then start doing the update. No matter how you slice it, this is a flawed design. Lets not touch the point of an UPDATE with 5bg...not even microsoft puts out updates this big to windows
cause it takes 4 hours maybe and nobody wants to stare at the TV in that case or just that they didnt know how big the update is and they regret.
Just cross your fingers you aren't hit with a random power outage.
Sorry Camel_toad, I just wrote the same thing then saw your comment. A very real concern though, until we know of any in-buit fail safe/back up.
I think it becomes more of a problem if your power goes off, especially as it is such a big update (some people take more than 10 hours to do that amount).
Yes, it is, but it shouldn't brick if something goes wrong during an update that can take over an hour to download/install.
Depends on how big the freakin´ FW is correct? 5GB is a Joke. Who wants to sit and download a firmware for hours instead of playing games?
Things happen. You can lose power or something, there should be back-up plans in case someone does turn it off. Not everyone has the time to download a 5gig update. Not everyone wants to send Nintendo their console for repairs. Nintendo really messed up.
So what? If the console becomes unusable if you shut it down during the update it's fucking retardedly engineered. It's never good to shut down during updates, but it's not 100% avoidable, anything from a power outage, to internet outage or download stalling at a certain % can force you to do so. Specially if the update is freakin 5GB :X Playstation also tells you not to shutdown during firmware update, but if you do, it retries after you restart, and if all else fails you can simply reset it to factory settings. This is really sad by nintendo, hope they fix it fast or it's gonna be a horde of angry customers all over the world.
Actually the ps3 originally had this issue also.Was fixed some time ago though.Flashing the bios is always a risk.
i doubt it is really common knowledge, think about who were the vast majority who bought the original wii
You know, most people don't power down during an update because they are curious, many, like me, had a system that locked up during the update. My system became unresponsive when the connection was lost, I let it sit for over two hours and it remained frozen. At this point, there is no option but power down. A lot of you need to stop being condescending pricks, there are people that spent hundreds on hard earned dollars to sit and stare at a brick. Nintendo failed to build in a fail-safe, that is inexcusable.
Ummm... No shit.
Why would you shut down the system when its updating? Something wrong is bound to happen. Report a brick when something happen when you don't cause it yourself.
Or if the power goes out? Or if someone else turns it off mistakenly? A rat nibbles on the power cord? A herd of elephants comes into your house and trips on the power cord? Or if a T-rex................ You get my point. Fact is, Nintendo is at fault either way. Who else is there to blame? (Please don't blame me).
Land of the free and sue everything even if it`s your own fault.
90% of those listed are the owner's fault then . And the way people usually complain about console prices , you'd think they'd learn by now to at least invest into UPS units and surge protectors . How often do you experience over an hour long power outage ?
Baka-akaB : Are you really saying everyone should have consoles on a battery back-up system as standard practice? Seriously?
5GB? Is this real life?
Is this just fantasy?
Caught in a landslide
No escape from reality.
Nothing is true, everything is permitted.
Open your eyes
Look up to the skies and see
I'm just a poor boy
I need no sympathy_____
From a Poor family Spare him his life from this monstrosity
I see.. Console launches...do this to people....
Lol most Wii Games are not even that big
...Why would you turn the system off while it's updating?
Because you just waited in line til midnight to get something you want to play, only to discover that you have to wait 2 hours before you can even do the initial set-up. I thought about stopping it and letting it update later. Glad I didn't now.
But if you get it at midnight why not just set it up and leave it to download while you sleep for the night then get up in the morning and play it.
...Because it's 5GB and not everybody has the patience to wait for 5GB to download? You can replace the word patience with time if you want. There's lots of substitutions.
Lol, what if they forgot to turn off that "Auto shutdown" feature and it even shuts down if it's updating...
Good point. My friend has the slowest internet I've ever seen. Downloading 5gb takes him a day and a half. I'm pretty sure he's not the only person out there with that problem. That is unless the "Auto Shutdown" feature is automatically disabled when updating the firmware.
I'm pretty sure such a feature will be disabled during an update... unelss Nintendo engineers are a bunch of idiots.
Hope people have bought an external HDD before updating the system cause that 5GB really eats up most of that basic model 8GB system. Funny cause it should be common knowledge that when a system is updating 'YOU DO NOT TURN OFF THE MACHINE!". The PC, PS3 warns the user not to turn off the system so i wonder if the dude ignored a similar warning on the Wii U or if the Wii U does not have a similar warning on screen.
Well apparently the 8gb model only has 3gb left so it might now even be able to get this update :-s
Wait since an 8 GB model will have 3 GB left over is it possible that this 5 GB update was predetermined already cause if you do the math... 8GB - 5GB = 3GB O_O!
yeah and usually the amount any system has for space isnt usually what you get, so an 8 gb system might be like a 7.xx gb, so there's like 2 gbs left !
True, you are probably right
@izumo, the update was predetermined, it installs access to nintendo network. Probably the system's operating system was not ready when the console went into mass production so they left it to update day 1.
Oh, those poor 8Gig owners :C
One does not simply unplug a WiiU during update. Nintendo should have prepared for this kind of scenario, especially when the updates are this big.
there is nothing in the world that can prepare for idiots doing stupid things....like unplugging a machine during an update.
The other systems are prepared... And they're over six years old.