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No Wii U Accomplishment System? Is This A Bad Thing?

Nintendo have released a whole load of information on the Wii U recently, but one thing people seem to be wondering about is if the Wii U will have some kind of achievements/accomplishment system.

It looks like the Wii U will not have an accomplishment system, is this really a bad thing?

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LX-General-Kaos1357d ago (Edited 1357d ago )

I do personally believe that this is a letdown, but hopefully can be patched in sometime very soon.

Over the last 7 years I have grown accustom to the achievement system made popular by the Xbox 360. I had hoped that Nintendo would offer a similar system as standard from day one to avoid having to patch it in on some titles while leaving out others. I have learned within this current generation that tacked on options or accessories is usually not the proper way to do things. It causes alienation and unorganized style.

Though I will continue to support Nintendo and will take advantage of the Nintendo Wii U entertainment system online structure. I will also continue to support Xbox live, which is what I believe to set the standard of how an online gaming experience is done properly. Especially with the achievement system. Hopefully Nintendo follows down the yellow brick path set by Microsoft online sooner rather than later.

Rated E For Everyone

GameTechZero1357d ago

I also find this a bit of a letdown but it can be patched. Look at when the PS3 first launched. It had no trophies and was introduced via a firmware update.

Jinkies1357d ago (Edited 1357d ago )

...but why patch it in later, I mean unlike Sony with the PS3, they really didn't see the point of an accomplishment system untill they saw how well it worked with the 360 and it's Achievements, since it was a new thing and the first time something like that was added on consoles.

Surley with it being an entire gen Nintendo would of known by now that the majority of gamers these days like an accomplishment system and would of put it in from the start.

It's common sense really, it's not they're going to think "Oh people like an accomplishment system...we never knew that"....really

PopRocks3591357d ago (Edited 1357d ago )

@Jinkies

I remember Iwata addressed it. He felt that dictating the player to do things to earn accomplishments would detract the player from playing the game the way they wanted to. To an extent, I agree with that.

I think they should have introduced a system closer to Trophies or Achievements but kept it 100% optional for both the player and the developer.

Maybe they'll change it through an update as Game-Modo suggested, but who knows. For now, I guess early adopters will have to deal. Not a huge problem for me, but I understand why people would be disappointed.

Jinkies1357d ago (Edited 1357d ago )

@PopRocks359

I suppose but didn't they have stamps for Wii Sports Resort...that would of been a good accomplishment system to add or expand on.

MikeMyers1357d ago (Edited 1357d ago )

I never understood the appeal of a unified tally of your achievements. The only purpose they seem to serve is giving those with more time on their hands bigger bragging rights.

I do see the incentive for a reward system on a game to game basis. The problem right now is not all games are created equally. We still have games that reward the player for simply going through something as simple as a tutorial. So when we see some guy (or gal) with a huge Achievement score or a ridiculous amount of medals it doesn't necessarily translate into the best gamer.

When you require all games to have a reward system what ends up happening is a lot of games don't have a lot of thought behind them.

wastedcells1356d ago

I really don't care but a lot of people do. Surprised they would not include this because you know for sure everyone else is doing it and it's for a reason.

admiralvic1356d ago

@ MikeMyers

A lot of this has to do with "creditability" over "being the best" or thats how I see it anyway.

Like I had someone tell me game A was awful, where as game B was fantastic.

Now I personally platinumed both of the games he was talking about, where as he platinumed 1, but only beat 1 stage of the other. Now we know for a fact they didn't like the game, though would you consider them very knowledgeable?

Since we can see what people are doing, it's easier to see who knows what they're talking about and who doesn't. This is just one of the perks of this system.

MaxXAttaxX1356d ago

than lack of an accomplishment system on the Wii U.

MikeMyers1356d ago

@admiralvic

You do bring up a good point and it applies to those who take the time to look into the details.

Back in the day there were arcades (they are still around but not nearly as much aside from maybe Japan). You used to brag about your high score and put your initials up for all to see. (watch the movie King of Kong, it really highlights the competitiveness of gaming) These achievement/reward/trophy applications try and replicate that. I see the appeal and think it's a great way to bring back that competitive edge for all to see. The problem I have is when they make it mainstream and make it a requirement. That's when developers tend to get lazy because now it's like a checklist they have to do before they ship the game.

Some developers put a lot of thought into them and some don't. That's why I don't think they should be mandatory. I do like the idea of sharing among other gamers. Miiverse looks to me as though you can congregate with other gamers and discuss it. Playstation Home does this too but the problem with that is it's a separate application that doesn't work as well as it ought to from the main start-up screen and all your other games.

If all developers actually put some thought into the reward system then yes, having it in all games would be the best way to go. The other issue I have is the legitimacy of how they attained them. Some people stopped caring on the Xbox 360 reward system because people used a save cheat and did other things. That's why when you have a system in place that rewards the top dog (in that case the highest achievement score) then what follows are those who will try and get there the easiest way possible just to see their name up there.

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SephirothX211357d ago

You are becoming less and less pro Nintendo and more and more pro Microsoft. Next you'll be sucking Sony off and then Apple.

garos821356d ago (Edited 1356d ago )

There is definitely potential in the achievement/trophy systems.it's a great idea however pointless.

For next gen I would like to see a reward system associated with all games, for example getting a platinum may unlock cheat codes, extras, avatars or profile images etc
Come to think of it even better world be to get at least a discount on the subsequent dlc they will most certainly feed down our throats in the future.the way I see it is if a gamer likes your game enough to get a platinum, at the very least give the guy a discount or even free dlc!

SegataShanshiro1356d ago

Don't mmind having no achievements at alI

Rated M for Mature

jsslifelike1356d ago (Edited 1356d ago )

@Kaos

As crazy as this sounds, I kinda valued my Wii, late in life at least, for not having a reward structure in place. It reminded me that I played games for the sheer fun of it and that I didn't need to constantly be checking an achievement list to see what I should or should not be doing at any given moment.

That being said, you're right- you are technically getting less for your money if you buy a third-party game on WiiU. Maybe it's really not as much of a priority at Nintendo as we assumed it was.

kupomogli1356d ago

With as much of a fanboy as you are, I thought you'd praise Nintendo even with something such as this.

I'm not a fan of the achievement system personally. They do extend playtime of certain games for me as I play more than I would without the achievement system, but they've also brought less enjoyment from games to me.

So I recently purchased Assassin's Creed 3, only to restart from checkpoint when I don't complete certain objectives because it's an achievement. If I was to play through without worrying about the objectives I'd enjoy the game much more, but each time I tell myself I'll just skip it if I fail an objective, I don't.

I'd rather have no achievements at all. I might not play certain games as much as I would have, but I'd have more fun playing the games than I do worrying about a trophy.

s8anicslayer1356d ago

Yes indeed, people like to see things like scores accumulate when your playing a game, it's very addicting and keeps you coming back for more ! It's why my legance is to Xbox Live!

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tehpees31357d ago

I'm glad Nintendo isn't jumping on the bandwagon with this one. If you can't play games without them being there what does that really say about the concept?

BitbyDeath1357d ago

You do get a deeper sense of accomplishment if you get them all though, like you have truly completed the game as opposed to just finishing it normally.

SilentNegotiator1356d ago

Exactly.

And who said the people disappointed "can't play games without them"?

FFS, It is a STANDARD feature these days. How can anyone downplay the exclusion of a STANDARD FEATURE?!

Tetsujin1356d ago

I've gamed before achievements/trophies, and will continue to game even after they're long gone.

garos821356d ago

I agree completely with your sentiments, however I don't see trophies or achievements disappearing any time soon.

Kyosuke_Sanada1357d ago

Don't care if they do, don't care if they don't.

Trophies/Achievements are not a must and definitely doesn't replace free in-game unlocks even though companies nowadays use it as such. So if Wii U games have more content to fight for as opposed to the "here's a cookie" system then I will lean more onto Nintendo's side.

PopRocks3591357d ago

It's definitely a bummer. I enjoy earning achievements throughout games (though I don't usually go out of my way to get them all). However, I prefer the feature being used at the developers' discretion. Forcing something which is, at its core, needless onto developers is something I don't agree with.

Qrphe1357d ago

I honestly don't care. It's not console-breaking for me.

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