Japan has never been crazy about the Xbox 360, save for the few instances when it had exclusive role-playing games folks wanted to play. But generally speaking, it's been an uphill battle.
Who cares. Their tastes are out of touch and is reflected in their dying influence in the global market among many art forms and exports. Now back to DUST: An Elysian Tail a game that shows what Japanese devs have lost quality and design wise.
"Their tastes are out of touch and is reflected in their dying influence in the global market among many art forms and exports". Wow, massive stereotype much? if you lived in Japan all the military FPS games we get would be branded "out of touch" too, it's a matter of perception and personal taste. At the very least, Japanese devs push the envelope and are willing to try ideas that western gamers and devs would brand crazy, niche etc. If anything WE are the out of touch ones, with our obsession over shooters and franchises of all genres now getting sequels that are slowing merging into one big generic genre and shedding their roots for the sake of commercial success. I can only presume your tolerance of other tastes and IQ are as low as your bubble count... Edit: i should make clear, my point is that there is a difference between "out of touch" and what is popular. Just because it sells more doesn't make it any better to the individuals who enjoy said games. Ford outsell Bentley cars, does that make it better? it's all subjective.
Japanese devs push the envelope??? With Mario, Resident evil and Sonic? Japanese devs get a free pass to release the same generic crap every year because people want to relieve the glory days.
Those 3 games are recycled in such a way to please the north American market. I think he talking about games like Catherine or the last guardian.
Oh i forgot about last Guardian. Thats the game we have had one screen shot of, The lead developers have abandoned "BUT ITS TOTZ GUNNA BE GOTY"
Tell me one reputable jap dev that has released anything envelope pushing of any kind RECENTLY. Hell, even some years ago capcom was releasing great stuff (resident evil 4, okami etc.) but these days jap devs are more or less the same as western and often leave it personally to them to destroy their games or just do it themselves. Your talking in the past, and I wish you were STILL right, but your not.
I don't know what happened but From Software, Platinum Games, Kojima Productions, Nintendo, Sony Japan and more are all still good. But it is hard not to notice the difference between this gen and the last. I really hope things improve next gen so that we don't have to play the usual realistic games that we play now.
You're such a weaboo, stop defending a country and people that do not care about you. The guy is right, the Japanese are a thing of the past AMD they are out of touch with today's gaming.
Yeah I remember this good old days buying different genre Japanese games especially for the Dreamcast. Powerstone, skies of Arcadia, crazy taxi, jet set radio, heavy metal geomatrix, shenmue etc.. Now its all the same bs especially in the west. Though Japanese developers do lack that creativity they had back then.
You all are so ignorant. Sure, developers in Japan make the same Mario trash over and over, and somehow manage to make Resident Evil worse and worse with every installment, but what about Demon's/Dark Souls? What about Cathrine? what about Metal Gear Solid? I'm sure when Japan looks at our game collection, all they see is a bunch of shitty military shooters. And those military shooters are our best selling games, which shows how "tasteful" we are. WE are the ones out of taste. Japan almost NEEDS something different, their games have so much variety compared to our games. It's almost sad.
Acully hes kinda right.... Japanese games are really only selling in japan.A few Nintendo games are really the only thing selling in america and Europe that's Japanese.American games,like grand theft auto,halo 4,saints row 3,call of duty,forza, need for speed, assassins creed 3 are all selling amazingly across the world but japan....really?You think america just makes FPS...
@omi25p There are games in Japan that no one ever heard of in america that are so great, and games people want so bad but only in Japan like Super Robot Wars OG
@greenpowerz Your opinion about Japanese preferences is very narrow-minded. You need to understand cultural differences and preferences. America is not the centre of the world and nor their tastes are the best or absolute. Western obsession with shooters, space marines and crime based games probably seems just as silly to the Japanese. In the end everything is relative when it come to culture so you cannot say they need to change.
There are still great games coming out of both regions, but don't try to romanticize the artistic integrity of Japan. The overwhelming trend in gaming these days, whether it's the West OR the East, is to release the safest, most inane genre pieces in order to maximize profit. This Halo thing, as people have already mentioned, is just a cultural divide. They're busy buying the same crappy JRPG's over and over while we all continue to buy the same crappy shooters over and over. That's all it is. Both regions have their fair share of generic crap, I promise you, but to generalize either region because of that is ridiculous.
Myamoto, Sakaguchi, Kojima, Mikami and Kamyia and other japanese devs pushed the envelop more than any western dev with exception of Rockstar and ID Software. Many of the gameplay mechanics and game design we see on western games today are copy pasted of what these guys did. Cover System - killswitch-Namco Shoulder view- RE4- Mikami Cinematics- MGS- Kojima Regenerative health- Hydlide- T&E Soft Corporation 1st game with save option-Zelda- Myamoto. etc etc etc
You are just so wrong. Demon's souls, Dark soul's, Valkyria chronicles, Disgaea 4, Monster Hunter, Ni no kuni. There are tons of great games still coming from Japan. Don't be such a meathead. It's because of people like you that we don't get so many great Japanese games over here. I have a feeling if Halo 4 sold a lot more in Japan you'd be telling a different story.
that Ni No Kuni im holdin off on till i get my hands on it but i did pre-order that but thats mostly cuz the art style, but i dont think ne1 here doesnt think animes r better than ne where else
i disagree demon's souls, dark souls and MGS4 are my fav games this gen all made by japanese devs thank you im an american and its us who are out of touch with nothing but shooters and sports games spammed every year imo
@MACGREGOR I find it stupid that you couldn't add the "anese" but you could take the time to type a reason why. really?
@macgregor.. Just curious, but what games do you consider good then? If you say call of duty I'm going to /facepalm
@MACGREGOR Congratilations. Yours won the prize for the most stupid comment Ive ever read on this site.
@omi25p Look at CoD releasing year after year with the same rubbish. The Japanese culture like games that require them to think. Many Americans like games where you can go bang bang all day without stressing the brain tissue. CoD is aimed at children, teens and the mentally incapable. It sells well because there are many Americans who are mentally incapable. Such as those who voted for Mitt Romney. Though don't get me wrong, I believe all republicans should be exterminated humanely.
The anti-ps, pro-360 troll trying to downplay Japan's...existence? Wow, such a shocker! /s Reported as offensive.
They like different games. For example i prefer killzone over halo. Everyone here will disagree but if we lived in europe then killzone is as big as halo. I also prefer medal of honor and battlefield to cod. Im not out of touch either I just am not a main stream ms fan. I loved gears but im not a freak about it.
dude take the vast disagrees as a sign that you're out of touch
"Out of touch"? Do you even know what a culture is, and that there's more than just the American one?
your dumb.. Nintendo and sony will dominate the world of gaming. next gen watch. Let MS have America. MS barely leads and had a full year start.. lol
Butthurt because the 360 only sells in the US, and the PS3 outsells it worldwide?
i agree greenpowerz, totally spot on, the disagrees are all sony fangirls.
Lost Odyssey Blue Dragon Catherine The Last Guardian Persona Dragon's Dogma Vanquish Fatal Frame Drak Cloud Siren Silent Hill Metal Gear Just to name a few.
Not surprised... Halo 4 isn't a dating sim. Though Cortana having bigger breast now than in previous iterations kind of hints 343's attempt to appeal to the Japanese market.
"Though Cortana having bigger breast now than in previous iterations kind of hints 343's attempt to appeal to the Japanese market." Really...I just saw it as 343 improving the graphics
I think it was a joke... no need to get all defensive.
defensive....lol Ok man...whatever.
Lol it's funny that ppl have disagreed with u cos the big breast thing is true. Japs are Perverts just like every other culture except they more openly market it in their games, anime etc.
Japan is a great country, but unfortunately their culture is incredibly misogynistic and perversion is more widely accepted than in the West. Hell child pornography was legal their till the mid-nineties and it is not uncommon for women to get groped by strangers in public. That's not to say they are more perverted than men anywhere else, but if the laws don't persecute then they will continue to get away with it.
whoa a lot of stereotyping in here
Agreed, and that the admins allow such a thing. Trolling is one thing, but offensive stereotyping? Stay "classy" N4G *rolls eyes*
they know all fps are trash
besides fallout, borderlands, crysis, rage, bioshock, battlefield and rainbow 6..id have to agree.
for the most part i agree however there are some like bioshock that are great tho
well by fps i assume he means modern military shooters MMS rather than games like bioshock,dishonourned,mirrors edge,etc...
Japanese have pretty weird taste in games. Just take a look at their top sales games every week.
Weird is subjective. They might think that Halo is weird. Although, I also think that some of their tastes are a bit weird.
but fact remains that your definition of weird will depend on whether you're looking from the outside in or looking from the inside out
Japanese do have weird tastes. If you lived in Asia like me, you would hear people say the same thing about Japan. They do make lots of awesome stuff though
@greenpowerz Do you know why they weren't excited for Halo 4??Watch the video. P.S. It's a joke so don't get your panties in a bunch. http://youtu.be/JbCsEaq2nFI
343 to make halo 4 schoolgirl edition and hey will sell millions
Lol! Sad but so true. Don't forget to add a bunch of cutsie pikachu gizmo's.
They should also release the bare chested muscular men in tights edition for you homophobes as well while they're at it. Cause that's what sells on the 360 right? Beefed up men saving the world? But then majority of 360 owners swear they aren't gay, but that same half are mysogynist, by the way they treat girl gamers? See what I did there? Threw a stereotype back at you. Like people said, its all about preference, what we like might be out of touch and generic to them. Japanese devs do have a very different style from westerners.
Thank you killerhog. We need more level-headed, non-ignorant adults here.
Not really surprising. The Japanese have an.....interesting.....taste in video games, at least from a Western perspective. >_<
Well everyone should know this fact. Over in Japan, the psp and its games are almost competing with the vita. THAT IS INSANE.
I truely do not care what Japan likes to play these days. They are out of touch with the rest of the world for the most part.
they probably think the same about us... America likes shooters, Europe likes racers and Japan likes JRPG. Everybody likes different stuff!
everyone should know this that not many american companies are succesful in japan cause they dont like are american product and they always critized our us. take for instance the cars we have a hard saling a car in japan then over here. also we as american dont help either when all we do is buy more foreign stuff. does anyone realize what would happen if we put more support for the xbox 360 then the japanese product sony and nintendo i would like to hear anyone reply to this
MS shouldn't have release that game in Japan, specially when their console is dead over there.
id rather play metal gear, demon's souls and dark souls than all the shooters and generic crap that american puts out every year japan has better taste in games guess what im american
Not all FPS developers are in the US, they just sell well here. In fact I would say only half of FPS games are made in the US. Many come from Europe or Canada.
That's why its good the PS3 exists as it creates games of different gameplay, and these are from American developers like Naughty Dog.
Different kinds of gamers overall. The entertainment choices in Japan are very different. FPS do well in countries where they have a gun or war culture. FPS do well in America because shooting guns is familiar, most Americans have seen or used firearms. Japanese developers do make games with guns but most are TPS, or used along side melee weapons.
Yeah. You hit the nail right in the head. Cultural differences play a big role in our tastes and preferences. Just not in games but also in food, movies...
Look, even the Japanese know a 6 hour Single Player Campaign for a Halo Game is a Joke. No wonder they dont flock to Halo 4, aint worth the Price for that short a "Story Driven Shooter", Please, get real.
Japan tends to lean more towards the artistic side of things. In America all people want are big Michael Bay action set-pieces with four letter words thrown in commands wrapped with a nonsensical story...oh wait, that also sounds like Japanese video games, nevermind.
We do get the occasional game from Naughty Dog like the Last of Us that goes against that trend
Games in the past decade have changed and have less personality because it is now big business think of the glory days when there were truly unique games now you only basically see this in indie games that are willing to take risks and are building a game because they love games business is destroying games trying to commercialized a art form(how well does that work)that is what is killing us hopefully in the coming years this will change but not anytime soon i imagine, that is my rant i feel better now lol :P
As much as I would like to care, Japan doesnt need the US to be successful and we do not need Japan to be successful Sales to either country in the end are not important. Halo4Life
Wow this is a top story? Lame!
Wait wait wait, you mean different cultures are different? Like, on a cultural level? I