I downloaded Sid Meier's Pirates a few days ago, and I can honestly say that the game is easily worth $15. There are games of lesser quality for ps2 currently going for $40-$50 a pop. I don't see why anyone should be whining about having more games to play. With the 360 you have the full gaming spectrum. Everything from bite sized XBLA games, to Xbox Originals, all the way up to beautiful HD titles. I personally like the option to download games with more depth than an XBLA games.
I still own Crimson Skies on disc so I pop it not to often anymore. Last time was when it came out on the Originals. Some friends decided to down it and give it a go again. Sadly, that was the last day and only day, just not enough people on to make it fun anymore but we had a good run when it was the game back in the day!
I think if the game you're downing has a good single player then it might be worth it but Crimson was best for the multi-player and with few on anymore, it's now a snoozer!!!
lol That's my only gripe. The games are still fun, but achievements would have been nice. It's funny, but you don't realize how much you like achievements til you don't have them.
Yeah it is, I still have the hard copy of Jet Set Radio Future waiting for MS to even hint at having an original release on live. Hurry up got damn it!
imo he has a valid point about the price point. $15 for these old games? Most, if not all can easily be found either online or locally for $10 or so to the door. So imo, and most others I've talked to about this topic, the games cost to much. And a majority of people I've talked to, including myself, would rather have a copy of the game to add to our collection, not hard drive. And in the future if you decide it's no longer a game you want to keep at least if you have a copy of the game you can sell it... & most of these games are backwards compatible with the 360...
No achievements? Where's the incentive? They could have and should added achievements. You're taking all this time to bring the title to XBL via dl and you can't add 500 points? or a full 1k if you're feeling generous...
Also a lot of us 360 owners who even care about these games have already played them. And it's not like the 360 is hurting for games. There's an arsenal of multi platform games, and there's a nice group of exclusives as well.
Also compared to arcade games that are half the price and just as much, if not more fun where's the value in these XB Originals? Which goes back to price. They're TOO much...
Also, the hard drive in the 360 is small; to say the least. And with MS charging a WHOPPING $180 for a 120 gig HD a majority of us won't be upgrading. Know how much I paid for a 160 GB hd for my PS3? You probably don't care, but I paid $100 a year ago. I'd imagine you can now get a 160 GB for like $80. Well to be precise I easily found numerous 120 GB HDs for $70 or less... The point is a majority of 360 users have a 20 GB hard drive, and even the hardcore gamers aren't going to fork over $180 for a bigger hard drive. We'll continue to play games, and make use with what MS gave us. Yes, the 360 requires a special hard drive. Know why? So they can BANK off it. But this is another story...
At the end of the day a lot of us just don't see the value in these Originals. They're overpriced, and there's simply too much out there to waste money and time playing these games. Those who did miss some of these great titles are probably lost in the new gen and all the great games it has to offer while those of us who have played these games know how great they are but don't want to waste the money and/or time playing these games again when there's so much MORE to do... So while a niche group might want to play these originals I'd have to think that a majority of us simply do not care. We're much more prone to play something new, or spend out MS Points on an arcade title...
I can certainly agree that the 360 HDD's are over-priced. I'm a 360 fan, but MS should be slapped for charging that much for disc space. I've got a good $300-$400 worth of content linked to my gamertag and all of it won't fit on my 20GB. I've been waiting around hoping they will put a reasonable price on the 120GB. If they haven't lowered the price by GTAIV, I'm just going to buy an Elite and give my Pro to my parents.
That is probably the maing reason why I have yet to download any of the originals, the hard drive is too small. They definately need to lower the price of the 120 gb hard drive, or introduce say a 60 gb hard drive for alot cheaper.
I do think the originals is a good idea, but to a degree. Put rarer or more expensive games on their, especially games with a substantial single player element like Psychonauts, Conker, or Panzer Dragoon. I love that you can get Ninja Gaiden Black on there. I already own it but its still like $30 used and not easy to come by. Having games like Crimson Skies on there is pointless, I saw that game at my local EB a few days ago for $4, sounds like a good price to actually own a physical copy compared to 1200 MS points to digitally download the game.
Probably not. Otherwise we would have them already. But that would be the way to go. We would have multiple sizes and price points. I'm guessing that would require MS to reveal too much about how the console works so it will not happen. Here's hoping.
Of all the design decisions with the X360 tha make you scratch your head - no built-in Wi-Fi, no HDMI on standards, cheap ROMS - the hard-drive is a complete disaster.
Sony got that part so right. (this is not fanboyism, it is fact)
MS are now pimping DLC TV and movies and original and you can barely fit a few demos and some trailers on the standard 20GB drive. And since I can only see digital distribution growing, this is one of the main reasons why I see the Xbox 360 dieing before 2010. Sure you CAn buy a bigger hard-drive, but normal consumers simply won't.
Choice is rarely a bad thing. Giving people easy access to old games is no bad thing. It gives people the opportunity to play games they never got round to buying, or to own their old favourites in a convenient digital format.
I sold my XBox and games when they announced the 360 (and XBox's still had some resale value). Although I've not bought an XBox Original so far it's nice to know when there's a bit of a lull in 'next-gen' releases I can pick up a few old games.
The only concern is that I don't agree with MS' pricing of the bigger Hard Drive, and as I only have the 20GB it makes me wonder how easily it would be to fill the drive!
This story is actually lame as hell. When the Originals weren't there, the gaming media was praising Nintendo for bringing back their old catalog. The second 360 does it, it's suddenly a bad idea. And I'm sure that when the ps3 does it, it will be considered brilliant. It's like to the gaming media your not allowed to actually enjoy what you have. These guys act like spoiled kids "Do you want an ice cream with your lunch?" "No!!! And your an a*shole for asking!!" Pathetic.
Unfortunately for the Wii, the best games available to the system are from 20 years ago.
The X460 doesn't have that problem.
Although I think originals like Psychonauts is fantastic - I missed that game and now have a chance to play it... if someone ever ups my bandwitch and buys me a new HD that is...
personally these games aint worth a cent
in my opinion xbox last gen console had no valuable games ecept for halo 1
now 360 is doing mych better than last gen
I'm not real wild about playing the old games on my 360. I've been playing KOTOR, Halo, and Republic Commando, and I just don't enjoy them as much. I think part of the reason is that I used to play them on a standard def 22" TV on the original Xbox. Now I'm playing them on my big 40" 1080p LCD and they look pretty bad. Plus, they seem a little more glitchy. I'm also feeling the same way about my old PS2 games. They just don't look as good (except for God of War, which has a hi-def option in the menu). Am I spoiled?
All fine games by any standard except GFX wise - even Halo & Halo 2 are pretty neat shooters still. Also if you'r looking for games for children, the xbox backcatalog clearly overshadows the 360 meager offerings.
I downloaded Sid Meier's Pirates a few days ago, and I can honestly say that the game is easily worth $15. There are games of lesser quality for ps2 currently going for $40-$50 a pop. I don't see why anyone should be whining about having more games to play. With the 360 you have the full gaming spectrum. Everything from bite sized XBLA games, to Xbox Originals, all the way up to beautiful HD titles. I personally like the option to download games with more depth than an XBLA games.
I just wish these Xbox originals had achievement points tied to them... That's the real downside.
Need I say more? Shame there are no achievemants or proper testing to ensure 100% bc.
Yeah it is, I still have the hard copy of Jet Set Radio Future waiting for MS to even hint at having an original release on live. Hurry up got damn it!
MWAH-HA-HA-HA!!!