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Halo 4 Review | EGM

EGM: "It’s been an impressive run, but after a decade of the same basic experience, I can’t escape the feeling that Halo needs to try a bit harder. Fans of the game will have a blast here, and the multiplayer is something special, but if you expected Halo 4 to keep up with the Joneses, you might be disappointed." (Halo 4, Xbox 360) 7/10

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Muffins1223  +   617d ago | Well said
This reviewer fails,same person who gives cod a 10 when he complains about halo having the same god damn formula,please dont approve this garbage...
smashcrashbash  +   617d ago
Why call it garbage? Because he gave it a lower score then anyone else? He just thought they didn't try hard enough to make it different
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LOGICWINS  +   617d ago
It's the Internetz

Differing opinion = garbage opinion
Skeletor88  +   617d ago
They're opinions aren't justified. How many games really change drastically over the course of a decade? These guys gave Tekken Tag 2 a 9 even though it's the same game from 1995.

Most importantly they gave fucking Call of Duty a 9. Halo needs to try harder but the yearly rehash of COD is worthy of a 9?

No wonder no one respects EGM
TENTONGUN  +   617d ago
sometimes when a franchise changes its formula its not for the better. resident evil comes to mind. its halo and i expect halo. i understand maybe an evolution next gen would be needed. but im down with this last halo game on the 360
aviator189  +   617d ago
I normally am not outspoken about these reviews, but this review truly is unsettling. Want to know why?

They gave Modern Warfare 3 a 9.0, a game in which literally nothing changed, introduced noting new to the franchise, and really played it safe, while they are now bashing Halo 4 with a 7.0, claiming that the game needs to try harder with changes and improvements. Sound hypocritical to you?

Here's everything new in Halo 4: Spartan Ops (free weekly chapters of missions up to 50 missions total, turret defense style dominion mode, several much needed and enhancing features in forge including dynamic lighting that pairs up the environment lighting with object placement among other key features such as magnets to make forging incredibly intuitive and easy, brand new leveling system, 3 incredibly diverse forge worlds each with unique forge pieces, an actual flood mode where they took the time to give your character a claw and flood skin, etc. I could literally go on and on about the changes and new introductions in Halo 4 new to the series.)
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StanLee  +   617d ago
The problem with reviews from many sites is inconsistency but different reviewers have different opinions of games. That's why if you're looking at review scores to decide on a purchase, you look at a consensus; What's the prevailing opinion. The prevailing opinion is, Halo 4 kicks a**!
Intentions  +   617d ago
yet he gives a high score for cod when it is the same game every year
DatNJDom81  +   617d ago
My my so many tears. Get over it. The reviewer didn't like it so what? Buy it if you're a fan.

"He gave halozzz a lowz scorez." Shut up. 7 is good. That means its as good as Killzone. :P
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mewhy32  +   617d ago
Wow...this from a guy that gave cod a 10. Move on.
gaffyh  +   617d ago
Well, what I've gathered from all these reviews so far is this:

If you like Halo, you will like Halo 4.
If you've never liked Halo, you still won't like Halo 4.
If you were on the fence, Halo 4 is worth checking out.
kikizoo  +   616d ago
Look at the cry babies, when you have mathematics proof than edge and others are biased toward ps3, donwplaying the best games this gen, they are saying "move on, it's just opinion, don't be a fanboy" and now, look at the comments here, and the agree/disagrees here XD

LOL@extreme fanatics like straighpath :
"one of the highest games games all year and all time
one of the highest rated games this year"

roflmao !
really, frustrated gamers/haters without great exclusives, best hardware, and paying for online, are obviously the worst..
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ShinMaster  +   616d ago
This actually isn't the lowest score so far.
This one
http://n4g.com/news/1112850...
is.
FACTUAL evidence  +   616d ago
@ Skeletor88

Every Tekken was NEVER the same. I'm sorry pal, but you honestly need to think of a different franchise. I could name so many changes in Tekken it's not even funny. I just think you needed the latest review from them to try to pull a point, but Tekken has never been the same. Try again. I can almost tell you're not a Tekken fan, or hardly play.
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miyamoto  +   616d ago
@tentongun

sometimes when the original creators leave a successful franchise its not for the better resident evil comes in mind

that's a fact

but no one is stopping any gamer to enjoy their games just because some people did not like it

OT

The original creative director wanted to take the series to a new direction but M$ wanted it to remain the same and does not want to make risky changes to the same formula and it shows in the reviews

some people want to play the same game over and over that is fine

some people want to play a new & different game that is fine too
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smashcrashbash  +   617d ago
Damn it. Double post
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AO1JMM  +   617d ago
EGM is shit anyway.
IAMERROR  +   617d ago
This reviewer is incredibly biased and wants Halo to be a COD clone with a Halo skin. I'm not saying this because I'm a Halo fan, I saying this because it is blatantly apparent by this man's review. EGM should honestly fire this guy or at least delete the review and have someone who isn't biased review the game. Here's a lil quote that made me laugh.
"These low points are openly exacerbated by the series’ staunch refusal to get with the times when it comes to game mechanics and level design, ignoring obvious enhancements like big-ticket sequences and proper iron-sights mechanics in favor of their age-old addiction to slow, methodical combat in unnecessarily large environments."
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dillydadally  +   617d ago
Wow. Just wow. Anyone who complains about Halo not having iron sights should not be reviewing a halo game. It shows they don't understand the game nor its style of gameplay at all. Millions of people roll their eyes when they read that. He loses all credibility as a games journalist immediately with a paragraph like that.

In addition, its just plain stupid to say Halo 4 hasn't changed. There has not been an FPS sequel in years with this much change from its last numbered entry. Its been completely reworked by 343i to the point many fanboys are screaming its no longer even Halo at all! The engine, sound, and motion capture has been nearly doubled in quality! That alone was enough to make Battlefield 3 considered an amazing sequel, despite few other changes. Its obvious this man wanted it to be a completely different game that would completely abandon the gameplay elements that makes it hugely successful and loved. Fire this idiot, or at least never let him touch a halo game again!
ZombieNinjaPanda  +   617d ago
It's funny, iron sights makes games slower than Halo. You have to stop all movement just to ADS and then aim at your target. Last I checked that's not fast gameplay.
cgoodno  +   616d ago
***EGM should honestly fire this guy or at least delete the review and have someone who isn't biased review the game. Here's a lil quote that made me laugh.***

Just FYI, every review is "biased". What you're essentially saying is they should replace his review with someone who fits your personal bias, meaning a score you feel is better representative of Halo 4.

Sounds like we're ignoring the idea of personal opinion, here.
IAMERROR  +   616d ago
No, I support personal opinion but professional reviews shouldn't be biased. Not every reviewer is biased, case in point, I'm not.
IAMERROR  +   616d ago
I'm not saying that the review is biased because he doesn't agree with me (I don't even have an opinion on the game yet), I'm saying that because the reasons he has are just ridiculous, expecting iron sights in Halo and other things is like expecting Mario to have speedy gameplay like Sonic. Halo has already implemented modern things like the ability to sprint and to have custom classes but he wants Halo to not even be Halo anymore. The grade itself (7/10) isn't even the bad nor the beef people have with this review. This guy came into this wanting it to be a COD clone, and this is very evident. I don't care whether this review agrees or disagrees with me (Like I said I don't even have an opinion about Halo 4 yet) there have been other reviews that are more in depth and give real criticisms, this review comes off as a shallow attempt to generate views (in which is succeeded). Feel free to message me your response if you'd like so I can respond(used up me comments).
JasonXS12  +   617d ago
It wouldn't be a sequel if it didn't have the same formula. IF SAY Mass Effect 2 had an RPG formula but Mass Effect 3 had RTS formula then it wouldn't be considered a sequel, more of a crappy spin-off.
Now I myself don't personally play Halo but according to testimonials from friends and positive attitudes towards the Halo franchise, I find a 7/10 hard to believe for such a popular game.
Heavenly King  +   617d ago
M$ did not paid them that is all. They paid IGN and other major websites to rate it 9 plus, but did not paid other sites. And that is why it is getting this score.

This is how the industry works if you have not realized that yet.
chukamachine  +   616d ago
Shh, don't tell them the truth.

Quick pack your stuff and hide. Microsoft has sent out it's ninja's for you.
PimpDaddy  +   616d ago
So is this the same theory for Sony and Nintendo too??? Or is Microsoft the only evil empire in your conspiracy theory???
starchild  +   616d ago
Do you have a shred of proof?

Thought not. Moron.

For the most part I find that games that receive high critical acclaim are by and large the better games once I actually play them for myself.

Now, I haven't played Halo 4 yet, but the vast majority of reviews have been extremely positive so I have little doubt that it will be an exceptional game.
adorie  +   617d ago
Well, damn. CoD gets to ride a 9 while a great game like Halo 4 gets a 7?

Color me pissed off. I'm not even a Halo fan,but I've played this game recently (review copy) and thought it was a 9 easily.

Graphics, sound, presentation and gameplay were all great and felt a little more fluid compared to past Halo games.

W/e at the end of the day these reviews are just glorified opinions.
ZombieNinjaPanda  +   617d ago
I'd give it an 8.5 max. It had a lot of flaws, gameplay and story wise that would detract. And multiplayer additions that are stupid imo.
legionsoup  +   617d ago
Since when was a 7 a poor score? That's above average.

All of this EGM bashing makes me sad, as a gamer who's been around for a long time...
Blastoise  +   617d ago
Reviews are different these days. A 7 is more or less garbage.

Back in the day only THE very best games got 9's ect. Super Mario 64, Ocarina of time, Final fantasy VII & IX, Metal gear solid ect

These days anything gets critical acclaim, and this is why everyone is going crazy over a 7, what was once a good score now just doesnt mean the same...
lategamer  +   616d ago
It's not about the score, it's about the text. The reviewer basically wants the game to go from Halo to Call of Duty. He wants more scripted events, less "open spaces" because its pointless, and he wants ADS.

And thats not Halo. Halo is one of the few games left that are similar to Quake and other Arcade Arena shooters.
StraightPath  +   616d ago
this review is pathetic cant believe accepted in metacritic. well no one really cares about this sole one persons poor review. Halo 4 will go on to be

one of the highest games games all year and all time

one of the highest rated games this year

a killer exclusive returns for xbox 360.

only available on xbox 360 tuesday 6th cant come soon enough!!
NastyLeftHook0  +   616d ago
its going to be on metacritic....;)
CDzNutts  +   616d ago
Man......people who like this sort of game are like Communists.

"Off with the head of anyone who doesn't like this game!"

Seriously....not EVERYONE is going to like EVERYTHING.

It's called...........BEING HUMAN.
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lategamer  +   616d ago
Copy and Pasted from what I wrote earlier:

It's not about the score, it's about the text. The reviewer basically wants the game to go from Halo to Call of Duty. He wants more scripted events, less "open spaces" because its pointless, and he wants ADS.

And thats not Halo. Halo is one of the few games left that are similar to Quake and other Arcade Arena shooters.

You would think with more and more games trying to replicate Call of Duty (BF Campaign, MOH, etc.) that games that try to stray from the "walk down hall way, trigger scripted event" would be given some credit. However, in the case of this review, it's a negative. A negative because the reviewer wants the game to be something it isn't, and won't become.
cgoodno  +   616d ago
@lategamer: Yeah, and people wanted Killzone to be CoD, Uncharted to be GeoW, Darksiders to be GoW, and so on. Most often reviewers compare a game to their ideal FPS and rate it based on that. Some reviewers have a wider view of what they like, some don't.

Just one guy's opinion, same as this review.

Note: I do recognize this one and the 5/10 score are way outside of the standard deviation of scores for the game and don't represent the 'norm' but they do represent how some may feel about the game.
4Sh0w  +   616d ago
Agreed lategamer. I recognize the reviewers right to his opinion, I just don't agree with his logic, because many of his cons are what what makes Halo, uhmm Halo and its changed plenty. Still I hate when people say "well they gave COD __" as if that makes them wrong about this particular review based on a past review because it doesn't work like that, 1st its often different reviewers and 2nd even if its the same guy whos to say that he can't think COD is better than exclusive ___ that just proves you don't like COD, nothing more, maybe just maybe different people like the COD formula better.

Similar stuff like this happens with every big exclusive though, some will say it hasn't changed enough and some will say its the same old thing, I'm kind of numb to it, but I think this review is just as valid as the 10/10 reviews because it just depends on what you want from Halo4, if you were expecting some change but mostly just a great Halo story and kickass gameplay then it delivers, if you were expecting some with major overhauls becoming some "fresh" new FPS experience then you might be disappointed. At the end of the day its just 1 opinion, don't take too much from it, look at a lot of reviews to get a better idea of whether YOU will like the game.

From what I've seen no doubt I will love this game, much respect to 343 for their high quality work in keeping the Halo legacy intact.
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Chuk5  +   617d ago
I just don't think people should expect them to flip the formula on its head. Well, personally I was never expecting them to. This too much of a sacred cow, for 343 to just up and alienate all the loyal fans. Halo 5 should be a different story

Very excited for Tuesday though
SJPFTW  +   617d ago
"These low points are openly exacerbated by the series’ staunch refusal to get with the times when it comes to game mechanics and level design, ignoring obvious enhancements like big-ticket sequences and proper iron-sights mechanics in favor of their age-old addiction to slow, methodical combat in unnecessarily large environments."

This is why the review is terrible. Its basically saying that it is not Call of Duty enough. LOLOLOL wow. Iron sights would be retarded in Halo, so would more COD-like killstreaks, and anything that would transform Halo into more of a generic military shooter. Halo gameplay is more old school and suppose to play similar to games like Unreal Tournament or Tribes. And that is why it is successful. No need to change it into another COD.

Considering that everyone is trying to be like COD now, Halo is probably one of the only handful of FPS that is unique and trying to do its own thing. I applaud 343i for not selling out. Can't say the same for most franchises.

LOL and EGM gave MW3 a 9. Yahh I guessing MW3 had a engaging and emotional story too, and Call of Duty innovates every year... like PUHHLLEEASSEE
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grifter024  +   617d ago
"Unnecessarily large environments."

Did he actually say this in a review are you serious?!

I actually like playing in BTB just goofing around trying to splatter people...if 343i made Halo smaller with no big maps it would fail tremendously.

"Big Ticket Sequences."

So this reviewer wants more can't control little cutscenes in the game than actual gameplay?

"The game narrative doesn't live up to Farcry 3 or Dishonored."

You're actually comparing a FPS storyline to an RPG and a open world FPS really!

"An the thrill of more non shooting thrills goes unfulfilled."

So you want LESS shooting sequences in a FPS as well?!

This guy is an idiot plain and simple. looking at his old stories he actually hypes Resident Evil 6...so it's obvious this guy is an idiot.
aviator189  +   617d ago
In addition, he think that Halo 4 is inferior because it doesn't support iron-sights like call of duty does... :/
josephayal  +   617d ago
great review AAA Game
Paradicia  +   617d ago
"ignoring obvious enhancements like big-ticket sequences and proper iron-sights mechanics"

Any hardcore halo fan can only laugh at the above quote from the review.
ALLWRONG  +   617d ago
It's EGM, the mag was replaced by 1up years ago. All the great people during it's heyday are gone or fired long ago. The mag is now filled with crap copy and pasted from the web. Sometimes they screw up and you can see the like/dislike links from the site the copied it from.
TekoIie  +   616d ago
Cutscenes > big-ticket sequences

I'm dead serious I love cutscenes and Halo 4's look amazing :D
Belking  +   617d ago
They only do that to get hits.
DigitalAnalog  +   617d ago
Personally, I think the low review scores is a good thing.
NOT because I think Halo deserved that scores but because reviewers are now trying to show how "critical" they can be. NOW, the ultimate test is to see if the reviewers will give the "free" pass to COD to which so many has claim. These reviewers will be in every one's target sights especially for the upcoming BOII.
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LtComAmbrose  +   617d ago
This is a joke of a review, from a gaming mag that went under for obvious reasons.
maximus1985  +   617d ago
I give this game a 4/10 because its not modern or warfare enough
....also what's with all the shooting and large maps, when will this game stop playing it save?
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Dlacy13g  +   617d ago
LOL...this review failed once the reviewer made the "it needs iron sights". Jesus, we have a bad enough time with every other FPS copying COD, this reviewer just kills me. It would be one thing if this games aiming was bad, and so the reviewer stated it was broken and needed iron sights, but no.... EGM just wants more clones.

**sigh**
A7XEric  +   617d ago
I was literally just about to post this.
KonaBro  +   617d ago
LOL
Makes me laugh to see how the Halo fans are so quick to jump and call for the heads of whoever doesn't give Halo 4 a good score. So pathetic. I'll be playing Halo 4 and enjoying it, instead of playing review scores like some of you chumps are. :)
ALLWRONG  +   617d ago
It's EGM, the same mag most gamers don't buy, even PS3 fanboys like you.
CDzNutts  +   616d ago
@ ALLWRONG

And you my friend, were not.

Bubble down.
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CDzNutts  +   616d ago
@ KonaBro

You my friend, were born with a healthy brain.

Bubbles for you.
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Nunchez  +   617d ago
Iron sights in Halo and a really short review, this guy has no clue about Halo at all. Oh well it's his opinion and he gave MW3 a freaking 9! I'm still wondering why he would do that.
StreetsofRage  +   617d ago
Well not everybody is going to like it, from what I seen I know I will and that's all that matters to me. :)

GAME ON BABY! NO SCOPE!!!!
AO1JMM  +   617d ago
His review pretty much says: "It's not CoD but should be".
YodaCracker  +   617d ago
EGM hasn't been relevant for 10 years. The editors probably told this guy to give it a low score to drum up page views for the advertisors.
Kos-Mos  +   617d ago
Just like ign gave it too high score to get hits?
Gamer-Z  +   617d ago
COD gets a pass for being the same but when other games don't change it up reviewers tear them apart.
nano88  +   617d ago
They gave resident evil 6 a 9.5 and that game if you play it and beat it its trash. And about halo 4 to give it a 7 he did not play it at all
insomniacgamer  +   617d ago
Failed reviewer fails review.

I'm not a big Halo fan, but this is just an idiotic review probably geared to generate hype for being the only one to speak ill of a clearly incredible game.

"Halo 4’s campaign feels as empty and uninspired as its strong, silent protagonist"

From what I have seen and heard, MC talks more in this game than any other and on a deeper level. After a friend recommended it, I read Eric Nylund's book 'Halo: The Fall of Reach' that 343 is using for the backdrop. Anyone that is familiar with this book knows that this was an incredibly brilliant move by them. There is depth to the story of the SPARTAN program that many fans are not aware of, moral implications to it and Halsey's work, MC's personal story, and so much more.

I said I am not a Halo fan but I am definitely picking this game up.
Braid  +   617d ago
"The game narrative doesn't live up to Farcry 3 or Dishonored."

This sentence is so wrong on so many levels. I respect your opinion but Dishonored had almost no narrative, it's just in-game dialogues that you go with. The game is absolutely great in terms of gameplay but sadly the presentation of story was one of the weakest I've ever played in a while. Even though the game plays geniously, the introduction sequence was too rushed/fast and the ending was somewhat of a joke. It's by no means the definition of "perfect narrative" in my book.
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Loki86  +   617d ago
Halo is 20% Campaign, 80% multiplayer. However, from what I heard in that Halo 4 has the best campaign yet with excellent pacing. In your review you give little to no details regarding anything about the multiplayer, you also say it's the same thing over and over. When Halo has consistently renovated and improved nearly every aspect of their games. 343i has put out an incredibly high quality title and you pick it apart because you are looking for hits, please go chug the shit under your sink.
bubblebeam  +   617d ago
"Halo is 20% Campaign, 80% multiplayer."

I prefer the campaign. Halo can actually deliver an excellent campaign and multiplayer. Not many games can do that. Only Uncharted and Warcraft (not WoW) come to mind.

Also, what you said is all correct. Reviewers do this to EVERY big game. Borderlands 2, AC3, Uncharted 3 etc..

I think it is because the highest bidder gets exclusive rights to the first review (for hits obviously), and this guy had a temper tantrum because his pissy little site didn't get picked.

It would be nice if fanboys stopped bitching though. They are apart of this problem. It's gonna happen next year to God Of War, Gears Of War, Beyond etc.
The real enemy is the reviewers, not each other.
lategamer  +   616d ago
Halo is 50% Campaign and 50% Multiplayer. Tons of care and effort go into both.
Dlacy13g  +   617d ago
Almost as funny as the bullshit COD comparisons and knocking of Halo for not having iron sights is looking at this review and then AC3. Both games are derivitive games from the series...Neither game goes out on a limb to change things up significantly. they both have a base formula that works. Halo 4 gets a 7/10 and knocked for being more of the same... AC3 gets a 9.5 and is praised for its diverse game play. So adding in ship battles = diverse game play, but controlling a mech or flying an airship apparently is not diverse.

EGM... I wish you would find other ways to get site hits like I don't know...write good consistent reviews.
DivineAssault  +   617d ago
I dont believe this game is a 7.. I dont even like Halo but theres no way its that low.. That would really suck if it is for fans but it not like all of em read reviews anyway.. Im sure it will sell millions even if it got a 2
Maxie1992  +   617d ago
Here we go again, every reviewer is different and has other perceptions how a game should be. Of course, a game needs to work and be playable but the rest is personal taste.

It is a grey area.
For example movies; Saving Private Ryan is good(lets say a 7)and another person finds it over the moon and gives it a 9.8(like IGN did with Halo 4).
I like Band of Brothers over The Pacific, but some people say otherwise.

Eventually personal taste(which we see in the comments here)is the most important one. I say, drop those review links and buy a game when you like it.

Celebrate individualism.
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MadMen  +   617d ago
EGM I have lost all respect for you and will no long read anything you produce.
OllieBoy  +   617d ago
7/10 isn't a bad score. Just not GOTY material like we all knew it wouldn't be.
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Convas  +   616d ago
You didn't read the review did you? What the author is essentially saying is that the game should be like COD to cater to his personal tastes.

So yeah, it IS a bad score because the review is not objective. But nothing objective can be expected of you either.
LoneWolf019  +   617d ago
Let me put it this way, if hes bashing it because its nothing new, yet cod gets glorious praise for being revoluntionary...there is a reason egm died for a few years or so.
Mr-Dude  +   617d ago
Funny how most of you are all mad about this review and are getting your pithforks ready... When KIllzone 3 or UC3 recieved a 7 from a weird website, you where all laughing and pointing... (I;m talking to the hardcore Xbox fans)

Anywayz, i will be playing the hell out of this when it's out!
Ben_Grimm  +   616d ago
In that situation the hardcaore sony fans were grabbing their pitchforks and calling for media bias.

Not every sie is going to like Halo and this is expected for a any AAA release game.
G-Ham  +   617d ago
Literally watch this site give Call of duty 9 if not 10 and claim that its a whole new experience. Halo is halo and the fact that you cant look down the sight and call in an airstrike online and get all the kills for you makes it what it is. Attention seekers deluxe.
Etackett2010  +   616d ago
Iron sights??? More scripted events??? Smaller environments???
No thank you.
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