Pacific Crest's Wilson believes Spore publisher is primed to reclaim market share by 2011; Microsoft's new box to debut in 2010, preceded by Nintendo's Wii follow-up.
new xbox in 2010. It will have blu-ray, wi-fi, HDD, and online still won't be free
If they have Blu-ray discs that means they have to pay Sony for using it. I think they might have to create their own discs for their console like Nintendo.
They already have their own...HD-DVD. They can still use it, it just won't be able to play any movies because no one will be making them by that stage. But then again that would put them at a disadvantage against PS3/4. So its either BlueRay or download....will download be ready by 2010...not for most people in the world.
Isn't that a waste of money?
Violater, it doesn't matter. As soon as the PS3 starts to get momentum of any kind over the 360 in America, you can bet your butt that they will get a new system out there as fast as possible.
another rushed xbox? I dont have a 360 and you wont see me buying the next failure in hardware. Dont get me wrong, Im not condeming xbox, its just that I feel they should take their time with things. I would have probably not took my 360 back after getting the RRD on my second week of having the console. The freaking console scratched the crap out of my ninja gaiden,, I almost put a sledge hammer to the darn thing. There is one more thing I would like to add. I dont know how much more they think they can make the graphics to software with a new system,, the poor devs are having problems making games better than they are now,, why would you want to make a new system if the software wont beable to even catch up to it? I know I know, the ps3 had a bad start cause of the new cell tech, but they will have learned how to harness the ps3's power by the time the new xbox comes out, and then its gonna have a reverse effect,, devs only wanting to make ps3 games. Go ahead though xbox,, if you think you can pull it off i might buy it,,, but I cant see it all working the way they think it will. I see it falling apart just like my 360 did on me.
Lmao PSP and DS dead yeah right....
This is like the idiot who claimed cellphone will be dead after 2 years of their first release.. What an idiot.
Agreed dude, the DS is a fantastic little console.
Kind of moronic to predict what a company will do just because of one console(XBOX). These posts are getting out of hand just wait and see no cares about the new Xbox yet no ones thinking about it(unless you're useing the topic to spite MSFT). Not suprizing though when seeing who's posting all these 360 posts(PS3 Fans). DS & PSP comments are ridiculous(whats going to replace these platforms?)
Does every post of yours must have the word xbox in it?
The DS2 and PSP2 I guess (or whatever they decide to call them). The n4g title is misleading - the article said "2010 is also likely to coincide with the end of the Nintendo DS and Sony PSP cycles.", cycles being the key word methinks.
I agree with everything except the PSP and DS being dead. There will probably be upgraded versions, but by no means will they be dead.
You agree that the Wii and the 360 will have new consoles out in 4 years.
Aren't you a smart one! Bubbles for your deduction powers!
@ power of Green Windows XP was first released on October 25, 2001 On January 30, 2007, Vista was released worldwide to the general public. So 6 years for a new operating system. They still support XP because of all the complaints they have had with Vista. Now the X-box: How long did the X-box last? It was released on November 15, 2001 The 360 came out in May 2005. (Microsoft dropped support of the xbox shortly thereafter) So 4 +/- years? Right? That means the 360 will be 7 years old in 4 years, right? If the 360 makes it to 2010 I would be very surprised. 10 years? Of course Microsoft might still support the 360 because of all the complaints it might have with the 720. You never know. Or they might just drop it like they did the X-box. On a side note, the PS2 keeps chugging along.
To realize that as long as a console is in the positive(making money) consoles will be supported till the end. Now for 2010 consoles coming out, maybe. I'm not a prophet, but I can tell you this. A lot of people are mad that MS dropped support of the Xbox, but again those fans aren't seeing it through the eyes of Business men and women. It's simple, why has the ps and ps2 still been supported? Because it was selling, bottom line. It was bringing positive, money, euro, walmpalm, salt, diamonds, rubies, Dead Prez, Won, Izms to put some cash in their hands. If history has truly been done, only systems with a positive sale rate have been supported through and through. MS wasn't in the positive with the XBOX, and at the present time to come out with the 360 knowing you were going to take another loss for a year or two isn't good. A company's mission is to make money, not lose it. So, they had to make a hard choice, Sony would have dropped support of the Playstation 2 if it wasn't in the positive, and it had a small install base.
that could happen... it seems to me like the xbox was just an experiment on which MS made its teeth, so it make sense to stop supporting it once the 360 was out. M$ will probably support the 360 for a long time, just like sony and the ps2.
"The 360 came out in May 2005. (Microsoft dropped support of the xbox shortly thereafter) So 4 +/- years? Right? That means the 360 will be 7 years old in 4 years, right? If the 360 makes it to 2010 I would be very surprised. 10 years?" If my math is correct, 360 would be 5 yrs old, not 10.
@ Willio That would be beer math. Must have had a few to many. lol! Anyway, thanks for pointing that out for me. Bubble to you for seeing my tardness! lol
I will say that the new Xbox console will come out in winter 2012. But I really have no idea.
2012 seems too far away IMHO. I think we'll see it as early as 2009 E3 or X09. 5 years seems to be the sweet spot because that's when they start getting too far behind the PC, which I blieve MS has every intention of keeping up with it for multiplats with Vista.
the way it's going wii and the xbox 360 is beating the ps3 in total sales. Sony should be the first one to make the move in the next generation. Shane Kim from microsoft game studios already said xbox 360 will last for a long while. 2 months into 2008 and the lead is still 4 million behind wii and 7 million AHEAD of ps3 even though it's being outsold by a small margin every week. I don't see any drastic changes at all. Microsoft will counter attack everything sony does.
360 fans were 360 rules because we have all these games, well it's funny now that 360 doesn't have one AAA game in 2008, not one console seller or known to sell consoles. NG2 is not a console seller, fable is not a console seller, Halo war is not a console seller. I guess the tides have turn and We will see what happen and if history repeats the console with the most hype games will sell more,,,,,,It's 360 fans logic at least it was in 2007 but now that PS3 has the most domince profile in gaming history they want to say 360 will sell. There is no reason for someone to buy a 360 in 2008 not one reason every game is multi platform or low budget..
Microsoft intends to counter the biggest guns Sony has for us right now, with what exactly? Lost Odysee? Alan Wake? Oh wait, one of those sucks, and the other is never going to make a realistic release date. FF13, MGS4, Killzone 2, Resistance 2, White Knight Story, Disgea 3... Vs GTA4! Oh wait, that's multiplatform! Microsoft could have fooled me. I mean the titles the 360 has is nice, but the ball is in Sony's court, and Sony is Asian, so it's really good at tennis.
You can't be that dense can you? :| Why in the world would Sony drop the PS3 when it hasn't even peaked yet?
their principle audience isn't gamers.
Shooters and Rpgs, yeah as we all know they are all system sellers...Right kiddo. Ms has had mostly new IPs sony has old games..
lol you dont make any common sense. u want sony to create a ps4 after 1-2 years of ps3's launch? the AAA games havent even been released yet so the hardware sales cant be justified yet. Once the rpgs come out, ps3 will retain the die hard fans from ps2 (120million consumers). they wont retain all of them of course but sony will overcome xbox within 2 years tops.
As much as I would like a game console's to come out every 4 years the fact still remains that there is never really any games worth upgrading to a new console the 1st year. It takes a while before developer are able to release games at a steadier pace than if they have to release only one game and then plan for the next gen console. I hate that about PC that games take for ever to come out and the choice sux. I think the PS3 is a perfect machine maybe doesn't have all the online features now but we all know soon it will. The Price will come down and once it reaches $199 it should sell like hot cakes and one can only assume that more and more games will release frequently and better.
This year will be a great year for 360, games like Banjo kazooie 3, Alan wake, Fable 2, Gears of war 2 will be out. What will PS3 have? Metal gear? (booooring), Gran turismo (borrrrrrring). The only thing am looking forward to is little big planet, the rest is just same old crap or overrated crap like HALO is for xbox 360.
i played forza. that's boring and i played halo and it is more boring.
ok thats your ignorant opinion, im pretty sure millions of people do not think MGS4 and Gran Turismo are boring, and lets be honest here, all that 360 has going for it in 2008 is Gears of War 2. Most 360 owners are too young to even know who banjo kazooie is, and it will never be as good as the n64 banjo kazooie. Alan Wake - not a strong enough title to make people buy the 360, same with fable 2. MGS4, Gran turismo, Tekken, final fantasy are world renowned franchises and the 360 cannot compete with any of them.
Gears of War 2 will be great, i just hope they extend the story line a bit more in this one. @Sleep, you are the first person i have ever heard say that Halo 3 is boring, or are you just saying that because it is a 360 exclusive?
wow...no long term for microsoft after all... well if the wii2 will not be out until 2011. i dont see it coming out in 2010
what bothers me is that everybody grills MS for dropping support of the xbox 1. when did the gamecube get released, AROUND THE SAME TIME AS THE XBOX 1,is there any gamecube games being made, NO, didnt nintendo drop support of the gamecube just like MS did. the Wii released 1 year after the 360 an during that year there were NO REAL games released for the game cube because they were all going to the Wii. so nintendo did the same thing MS did but nobody is mentioning that. people just want to slander MS an label them as a evil company when other companies do the same thing but catches no heat from it!! now you have to give credit to sony for having a system that you COULD support as long as the PS2,but... how many big high profile PS2 games have come out. GOW2 was the last. how many is scheduled to come out. sony is awesome with their mind game playing tactics an people just eat it up!!
Like I said in 4.blah ps2 has a huge install base, and was making money. Why would someone drop support of something in the positive? If sony didn't have that kind of support, they would drop support early too. However, Sony has never been in that situation before, and a lot of fans don't think about the business aspect of it all.
gamecube was a flop in comparison to the xbox though which didnt have much installbase. Because xbox had a good portion of the marketshare, dropping it may seemed different than Nintendo.
PS3 will be mainstream in a year or so. Its gonna own the competition.
bubble for you.
I agree with the xbox 3 coming, but with the success of the wii it shall hold on for more than the next 4 years, I only agree because I see that now 360 is going downhill, halo 3 is out, sales are lowering. Those reeasons, DS and PSP will never die, but their 2nd versions will be out. Anyway this guy is dumb.
360 is a really fun console, with great games. if the new xbox comes out by end of 2010, it will definantly be backwards combatable. and the technology is so far beyond what ps3 and 360 have right now that it would probaly be a good idea. but I personally dont see it that soon. and if it does then I had 5 great years on my 360, which I think is worth my $400 investment.
2 years left to get a new kind of RROD on xbox 720. No more PSP and DS why these products are fine.
they should go over to the sega office and learn a thing or 2 from them , sega fail because they kept coming out with console after console . dont get me wrong i owned every sega system , but in the end consumer got scare ...plus the ps2 and dvd was going to take over anyways..play b3yond and jump out its not to late
"GTA4! Oh wait, that's multiplatform! Microsoft could have fooled me." Instead of using the term "multiplatform" from now on we should all start saying "runs better on the 360"
In terms of new consoles, this is similar to remarks I made on another thread days ago. MSFT to go with new Xbox in either 2010 or 2011, depending on how quickly PS3 is catching up. Nintendo likely to go with a new one by 2010 if Wii sales slow based on "fad" sales. I think the DS will be supported until 2010, but I suspect that Nintendo will release a new DS before then. Maybe this year? As for the PSP, it's pretty much dead. Okay, God of War is finally hitting this year. But look at the upcoming games on the PSP and not only is there a severe lack of AAA titles, there's a severe lack of titles altogether. Only 4 pages worth on GameStop as opposed to at least twice that many on the DS. Sony needs to jump all over Nintendo in the handheld war and get a new system out first, with more bells and whistles, with some great launch titles, at a lower price. The $250 for the first PSP was too steep. I applaud them for getting as much market share as they have, but I'd argue that the first PSP was just a toe in the water for Sony to get a feel for the handheld market. I suspect they'll come out much stronger with their second iteration, and that they should do so soon (2008 even). It will be interesting to see if MSFT or Apple are really getting into the handheld market with any real hardware. I think MSFT has dabbled with the idea, but I expect them to stay away from handhelds. The kinds of games that MSFT is known for (mainly FPSs) aren't really translatable to a handheld... that might be a generalization that is unfair, but it's a perception in the marketplace that MSFT would have a tough time overcoming, IMHO. As for Apple, I think if they wanted to jump in here with an iPlay, they *could* have some success. This isn't their typical bailiwick, but I'd be excited to see the hardware they'd produce.
DS Dead? This analysts are getting even more dumb every day jesus christ, SOME ONE NEEDS TO FIRE THESE PEOPLE.
My predicition: E3 2008, MS announces new XBOX for christmas 2009. See, now I can work for one of these sites as an analyst! WOOT!
Id buy the next Xbox3 if it was solid state! fast solid state hard drive! and had TRUE HD resolutions meaning at least 1 GB of Video Ram!!!Across the board and ran off of something similiar to Nvidia 8800ultra in SLI!!! ID buy if around 500 dollars im sold!!!!! But can MS make that sacrifice?? They could do it!!!they got the money.... DO iT Damn it
I doubt that a new Xbox or Nintendo system will come out in 2010, that seems so soon.
first the xbox 1 had the christmas lights then xbox 360 had the ring of death now the xbox 720 will have a nuclear explosion but the wii 2 will be just fine :)
So MS to have a new console by 2010? So,they make an announcement January 2009? When are the launchn gears2? Wil they announce a new xbox 6 months after gears2? Weird,they work so hard to reduce the size of their chips,js so it cn be in vain? Thats dumb. The next xbox, 2012
MS themselves have said they want this console to last longer than the original Xbox. I'm thinking around 2011/12 they will release a new system, which is fine by me. And the PSP/DS are dead is just plain stupid.
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