Nintendo president Satoru Iwata responds to those who say that Nintendo lacks innovation.
It’s not kind of surprising. Nintendo always bringing the “new” to gaming. I hope for the same innovation for WiiU.
innovation isnt always about technical achievement. It could sometimes be about a new way of thinking or in other cases...playing.
In some ways Nintendo is innovative, in others they are a dinosaur. Wii was innovative with motion controls... it was a dinosaur in terms of hardware. In terms of their classic franchises, I don't want them to stray too far away from what made them great from inception... I'd rather them press innovation by making new franchises.
There is lots Nintendo can do in the online world with their IP's yet are still reluctant to do so. So yes, they do innovate in certain areas but fall behind in others.
Sometimes as well.... being innovative sometimes, doesn't make the company 100% innovative....How many failures has Sony and Nintendo both done together, or attempted? Successes? It varies on when the attempt and technology is marketed and released. Nintendo tries things, it works or it doesn't. They are both sometimes innovative, and sometimes incompetent, as most corporation and business decision breakdowns... Wii U is not innovative, that much I can easily say, it's a pisspoor attempt at trying to keep the Wii-recognizable name while desiring only money for the losses had with 3DS's horrible launch. Nintendo is playing it safe and also playing it dangerously, it tells me they cannot predict the outcome of WiiU, they couldn't with 3DS, they won't for WiiU. They expected 3DS to sell like Hotcakes, ARROGANTLY, just as Sony did with PS3 at $599.99, but with 3DS being its launch price. Moral of the story. It depends how often you remember someone, or a companies failures, successes and attempts ALL TOGETHER, before you can see what the ratio is. Most people focus only on success or in some biased manner. Virtual Boy? Power Glove? Gameboy Mini? Gamecube and/or Gamecube disc format?(Sold well, but not 'Hurdurp-Nintendo-quality- 'Well'', Nintendo being incompetent with Online functionality? It's 2012 going 2013 and they're barely grasping the bare-minimum of what should be the norm for WiiU.... So many more gimmicks exist that Nintendo has done that I've not named and same as with Sony with their own gimmicks, though I'd have wished Sony had marketed Move better since of it having actual potential.
When Nintendo "innovates", it is always in the 100% success rate given the primary factor of every "next-gen" console released then on: The NES introduced d-pads. The S-NES - shoulder and the traditional diamond shaped face buttons. For N64, the analog sticks (which spear headed the modern 3D controls WE SEE 15 YEARS since it's inception). The NDS made dual-screen/touch screen an innovative approach to gameplay. The Wii-mote, demonstrated how controls can be relatively streamlined that even non-gamers could interact with. And now we have the Wii-U. With a track record like that how can one doubt their ability to "innovate". Failed prototypes like the V-boy is what happens when Nintendo tries to diversify an already competitive market, not to mention there was almost nothing redeeming about it which caused the main designer to be booted off their company.
It's new but at the end of the day to them it's just what will attract an audience to purchase their product over their rivals. It's still a gimmick, I used to like Nintendo before they relied on gimmicks to sell their consoles. The NES - Gamecube were amazing. I say gimmick by the way because like the Wii's motion controls people will slowly loose interest and after they do they will go and purchase a pro controler. People are like magpies, we see something shiny and new and were all like "OOOOOO...AHHHHH" then once we have it sitting in our "nests" it rusts away or gets dirty so we toss it aside and go out to find the next shiny thing which we like the look of.
"People are like magpies, we see something shiny and new and were all like "OOOOOO...AHHHHH" then once we have it sitting in our "nests" it rusts away or gets dirty so we toss it aside and go out to find the next shiny thing which we like the look of." lol sounds like my sex life. I like nintendo but I hated the Wii, the Wii u and I just don't know what to think about it yet.I'm going to wait for a year or two before thinking about getting one, and that gives Nintendo time to release more games. I just didn't know about haveing a touch screen in my controler, the controler looks like it could get awkward after play a fps for a few hours, and I don't like their new wii u pro controler, on top of this I don't really want any more motion controlers. I want to try a demo in best buy or some think before I have my final say but sofar I'd say my expectations are 6.5 -7/10 on my expectation scale, will need to wait see.
They talking for the games not for their consoles and is true they making the same games again and again from 25 years Mario and Zelda Nintendo lacks innovation
It's true, and makes a lot of sense.
I'm surprised he felt it necessary to make that comment. Other than rampant fanboys on sites like this, the industry in general recognise that Nintendo DO innovate.
Did you think I was being sarcastic? I was agreeing with you.
I know you were indirectly agreeing with me but there was no need to attack Sony fans whilst doing so. I'm a Sony fan by the way ... but I appreciate what Nintendo have brought this industry.
“…One thing I would like to add, though, is that it might be true that Mario and Pokémon are franchises with long histories and tradition behind them, but we are trying to push the boundaries every time we develop a series title. In other words, the reason Pokémon has been continuously popular for about 15 years and Mario for almost 30 years now is that each sequel has something novel. So I frankly think that those who assume that Nintendo lacks innovation might be making judgments by looking at our game titles without actually experiencing them. Without ongoing innovation, even Mario and Pokémon would have lost their popularity long before.” Speaking of rehashing games, I think I rather see companies like Capcom continue to rehash games with more updates than to rely on disc locked contents or dlc in general. You see, that's a rehash I know of. Nintendo games don't really go by those rules.
Mario Galaxy, perfect example.
Galaxy 2 was a fully different game, not an update. But then again, I can't really follow this line of discussion because of poor grammar/wording... so maybe you already know that and are trying to say something else...
I was saying mario galaxy was innovative.
Sega always innovated more than Sony,MS and Ninty combined.
maybe he is right . but if they care about hardcore gamers more I think that is "innovation" for Nintendo
I think Nintendo has plenty of innovative ideas... I think people who think otherwise are short sighted. Innovation doesn't have to be the next wiz bang electronic thingamagig...nor does innovation mean 500gazillion polygon processing power. No, innovation can also be coming up with new creative ways to tackle issues in games that were handled poorly in the past, or creating new control methods/schemes. Making 3D portable...or even a power glove. there are plenty of innovative ideas at Nintendo. With that all said innovation does not equal success... Nintendo has been very innovative over the years, but their success rate on that innovation has been up and down. Vitality sensor comes to mind...it was an innovative tech idea that flopped so hard it never saw daylight.
i have one of them. just need a game boy.....
It can't really be a flop if it's never released, though, can it? I mean the Vitality sensor. It was just an idea Nintendo had, and they probably made some prototypes, but didn't deem it worthy of release... yet. They could go back to that concept in the future, if they see it fit.
You know what was innovative the trauma centre series, know what console it was on, the DS and WII
...and Nintendo didn't have anything to do with those games. What's your point, then?
that they create innovative hardware duh...
Sometimes trying to innovate isn't a good idea, if it ain't broke don't fix it. From most gameplay videos for the wii U the extra screen is just used as a storage system for players with a gimmick added on. The best I have seen for it is the golf game that nintendo showed and I think (like the wii) it will be up to nintendo to show everyone how to do it properly.
Anyone who has been gaming for years & understand the industry will know that if it wasn't for Nintendo the game industry we know now would not have happened or at least be very different. One can love Nintendo or one can hate Nintendo but there should be NO denying the innovation that Nintendo has given to the industry. They may not be the first in some of these but like all tech the need to improve upon technology is natural. Game wise do i think that some of Nintendo's first party games should move away from the formula they have followed for the last 20 years? Of course! but like they say if it is not broken why fix it. Nintendo 1st party games sell tons cause people still find the formula enduring. There is nothing wrong with that but the idea of 'CHANGE' does not hurt as well. Iwata must have been annoyed at some of the comments made towards the company in wake of the Wii U launch, totally understand where he is coming from. Look i support Sony but even if you are a fan of Sony or Microsoft, supporters of these companies should at least be mindful/respectful of what Nintendo has done for the game industry.
Without Nintendo yes we probly wouldn't have video games now. But without nintendo screwing over Sony we would never have the video games we get now. Playstation brought adult games to a hole new level that Nintendo would of never done. And still don't.
You know... I'm not a big Sony fan, but I can agree with that. I can't think of anything I'd want to change with the industry now except Sega making consoles again, and Apple to go screw themselves. I want all 3 companies to thrive. They all have their niche and it would serve us well to support all of them.
"Without Nintendo yes we probly wouldn't have video games now." Hold your horses right there. It was only a matter of time before someone jumped as a leading figure on the home console video market during the crash on 1983. The same can be said to the potential of the third-party videogame developers that Nintendo ignored but Sony didn't during the 90s. To say we'd have no home consoles today if it wasn't for Nintendo is preposterous.
I'm sorry,but as a console gamer I say that gaming was alive and well after the 'American' game crash of 1983 in the vein of PC gaming.PC gaming thrived during this period.And no,I might get disagreed a lot on this,but Nintendo's "innovation" beyond hardware is severly overrated.They were their innovative best during the 90s.While the Gamecube did pack some unique experiences in games like Eternal Darkness,it never really took gaming in a new direction.I've been sick of Nintendo's old franchises for a long time,but I do understand why it's fanbase wants them.What I don't like is how EVERYBODY is supposed to be grateful to Nintendo in some way and like their games or else.I'm sorry,but I'm not the hero worshiping kind.I regard other developers who are more hardworking than Nintendo in every way.Nintendo has their enourmous fanbase,and nothing else.Even though Wii was a humongous commercial success,I've seen negativity towards Nintendo become more and more visible.of course,even people making valid points against the company is called a "fanboy".
Nintendo don't lack innovation, they lack hardcore games, and I guess they are working on that using WIIU
@mt ... I have to disagree. I think Nintendo has a ton of hardcore games but the major influx of more casual/family friendly titles from the Wii gave the Wii this perception in the gaming community of offering nothing but casual games. That and much of the game content trended toward more kid friendly..but kid friendly doesn't mean its not hardcore. Mario games are some of the most hardcore platformers out in the market but because they lack blood and guns many mistakenly call it a casual game. Factor all that in coupled with the fact that the Wii wasn't offering HD visuals and its a receipe for the average gamer to look at the Wii as not being "hardcore".
They innovate but it's never with the intent to make the best game possible for the time, they are always holding back.
I agree with Iwata. Why did Mario and Pokemon survive this long? Was it because we are stupid enough to buy the games? NO. It's because those games were awesome to play and every new title had the same concept but it felt fresh fun to play.
I fail to see how Microsoft or Sony "innovate" more than Nintendo. Sure they have their online capabilities, burt what have they contributed to the industry that hasn't been done on PC? I'm all ears...
Yeah, no way Nintendo would be around it they didn't innovate. The massive amounts of shooters released today all play the same. cover systems, 30 FPS, bloody screens, regenerating health.
" but we are trying to push the boundaries every time we develop a series title " I have a seriously good idea to innovate those series as simple as online coop for Mario games. But no Nintendo does nothing.
Solid response from Iwata. Now fire Reggie, put more of a focus on games as opposed to hardware and get back to serving core gamers and I'll buy a Wii to experience them. Until then I don't see the need to play another mario game. Skipping the Wii U like I skipped the Wii. Overpriced when you consider the accessories required and the consoles future given its lack of raw power. Until Nintendo has the support of 3rd party developers like Rockstar and some new IPs for core gamers I'm not taking them seriously.
Let me just say innovation isnt just updating the tech as every man and his dog could do that i can do what sony and microsoft do in terms of just adding more powerful hardware thats not innovation and neither is an online system innovation is the first gamepad/anologue sticks/first realtime 3d game on a 2d tv ie Mario64/motion controls all them things are innovation as they shaped the gaming industry as we see it today all thanks to Nintendo,basically Nintendo's inventions are why Sony/Microsoft exist as they just copied and made a few adustments to make them better ?? But without the idea in the first place consoles wouldnt be what they are today Nintendo innovates everyone else copies.
He's 100% correct! MARIO Party, Kart, World, Galaxy, Paper, RPG, Sunshine, Sports, and ETC. are all different gaming experiences though they may share some basic mechanics, world logics, and visuals.
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