Original-Gamer.com: "Tekken Tag Tournament 2 producer, Katsuhiro Harada, received multiple tweets from concerned gamers over the placement of "Allah" on the floor of the Saudi Arabia stage in the game. Harada was quick to respond on his Twitter that they did not know that "Allah" was on the floor and will be changing it as soon as they can."
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Am i to understand that you have never in your life been offended by something and made that known to an offender?
"Women, kids, men, homesexuals have freedom and the right to do what they want and wear."
yeah.....this discussion is done.
I bet you keep using that, I don't think you know what it means though.
People these days do more damage over apparent "insults" than the insult itself actually caused.
I'm sure one of the holy books says to turn the other cheek, but I guess thats not in all of them.
Maybe I should of been a bit clearer in my first post, but I think it gets the point across.
All they did was mention that the word 'Allah' was on the floor. Nothing else transpired. It is well within their right to bring this to the developer's attention as it is for you complain about the developer's response.
Now this story would be far more interesting if the developers made a statement that they made had a mistake and in response put more names of gods on the floor so that everyone can be equally offended. This would put a big grin across my face.
Yet, saying communism is great gets you shat on in the US. Some freedom of speech. Also, what benefit does putting that name there bring to the game? Is it for "authenticity"?
Also, it's peoples freedom of speech that allows them to object against these things. Please, continue, I'd like to hear more backwards views. Also, "Muslims want to pass sharia law here". WTF?! You just went full retard. How is this relevant or even true for that matter? You say "everyone can believe what they want". Lol your post is so hypocritical it's not even funny.
+ Killerhog, your a fake. You have no beliefs because if you did then you would get offended.
But it iss admirable that they're considering changing it just from fan feedback.
Do Muslims similarly observe the taboos of other religions? Admittedly, I don't know very many Muslims- or am not in contact to ask them this question- but I feel like many Muslims are quick to take offense, feeling that respect is not given to their beliefs, yet do not extend that same courtesy.
What's your experience with this?
I hope this answers your question.
I never noticed the ALLAH name , some do search because they have a feeling the game try to offend them and this may been discovered by mistake , i felt that in call of duty and many games , but most of us that play games only hear this from news like in here , so dont judge us and say we muslims search for these things , we hate to see these things so why would i search for it , but when i know it offend me i will speak , it is my right..
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it's good that Katsuhiro Harada is a respectable man and truly love the fighting community and has proven many time and i don't think he will like people fighting over this.
Stop caving to the whim of every insecure fucker out there who can't handle having their beloved prophet depicted, let alone mentioned.
Yeah, the stage said "Allah"...how is this offensive? You know what is offensive, restricting women's rights and indulging in barbaric bullshit sharia law.
I dislike all religions, but islam has a special place for me, one where logic and reason has absolutely no chance of reaching the brainwashed muslim masses, and where acting the same way your ancestors did 2000 years in the past is to them something to be proud of.
IT'S NOT.
No apologies. There are some cultures that just need to catch up. PERIOD.
People in the gaming community get pissed-of because Muslims are making a fuss whenever there is something offending their religion in a video game .. ok ummm
WHY would you consider adding something from the Islamic religion in a game to begin with if you know that Muslims are going to get offended !?
If you ask me,others are trying to take jabs at Islam whenever they could & when it blows up,apologize and remove something from the game or ban it,then the gaming community gets riled up blaming Muslims for being over sensitive ..!
Just an analogy...
it's just how I see it :)
It's not the first time that Muslims have stepped into having a game changed because it disagrees with their sentiments. One game I can think of would be the Ocarina of Time which had a soundtrack for the Fire Temple level. It wasn't as if Nintendo went out of their way to "insult" Muslims, but to use something unique and interesting to give an added resonance in a level.
I doubt Namco meant to do what they did. Cultural ignorance or merely working with the themes of a level? It may be one or the other or maybe both.
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I'm not attacking anyone here but it's bugs me when people start cursing or attacking Islam or Muslims when you obviously must attack the root of the problem which is the people who use these Islamic symbols or chanting without knowing how it would react on Muslim beliefs & the Muslim community.
I for one respect freedom of speech,to be able to express yourself to the fullest without filters but I despise using that same freedom to attack others especially religion ! As much as you have the right to attack religion,use it,talk about it and discuss it,the people behind that religion have the right to defend it and be upset about using their religion in a bad or disrespectful way.
It's not just Ocarina of Time,other games did it,like that Little Big Planet 2 sound track which was about someone reading from the Quran,or using it in Japanese anime like JOJO's Bizarre Adventure when Dio(the main villain) was reading from the Quran while sitting one leg over the other which is a disrespectful way of reading the Holy Quran in the Muslim's belief & many other example...
I'm sure lots of these incidents were not meant for or deliberately put their as an insult to the Muslim faith,but some of these makes me wonder if it's meant to be a trigger for Muslims to react and blow up(no pun intended!) the whole thing out of proportion so that they get dissed at from lots of communities,even though Muslim extremest are doing a great job at that as it is..!
Anyways,that's how I feel,if you don't want Muslims complaining,don't include them in your projects,if you do want to reflect their beliefs or culture in your work,at least know what you're dealing with so that it doesn't show up as if its meant to disrespect them.
BTW,sorry but English isn't my first language (=.=")..!
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Sorry for the long comment too u_u ..
Let us take an example of a game like Assassin's Creed for instance. In the first Assassin's Creed game, you star as a bloke called Desmond Miles who can travel back into his genes to replay genetic memories of his ancestors. One of his ancestors' full names is Altaïr ibn-La'Ahad who is part of an assassin brotherhood where he goes about slaughtering Templars who are searching for the pieces of Eden. Now, where are the hand-wringing Christians who are upset over the way the Templars are depicted in this game? How about in Assassin's Creed 2 where you fight the Pope and his various bodyguards? Was there any uproar from that?
I can understand that people should be respectful to a group's culture, but in my opinion, a person/group's right to say or do what they will deserves greater protection than the general consensus because what they have to say may have taken a great effort to come up with and might even hold a grain of truth; allowing us to learn and challenges us to become sure of the facts that we've become accustomed with.
It's easy to express an opinion if the general consensus abides by it but any opinion must be defended against any consensus, any government and any mind cops who deign to think otherwise.
Its better then saying "pathatic" , some people think they are too smart then muslims and think they are sensitive just to defend what they believe , that defending only means they have feelings for their believes and sticking for what they see is good ..
Islam isnt the problem here , its people ethics ..
I dont think this was made to insulte muslims , just a mistake because they are fixing it not like other developers , i am a muslim and i support tekken developers with proud ..
If anyone have problem with islam then prove we are wrong instead of insulting us , make us love what you believe not hate it ..
Picture frame in the toilet of COD, And need to use a sniper gun to scope in to see? I mean come on... In the first place how many % of the people actually go scope and look at every single shit in a game like COD. Most people are running around shooting at people or at least camping and look out for target than to do such a thing. The logo on the floor that has whatever word in the middle of a fighting stage? Looking at at the floor in a middle of a fast action fighting game rather than actually enjoying the actual fun of the game.
There are countless games, movies or stuffs out there that has the word 佛 found within or on them. It stands for Buddha, also consider as God from Buddhism. And some of them are even very obvious ones that you dont need to specifically do something to actually see the word. So Buddhist should come out and bud hurt? IF they dont means they do not respect their religion?
Countless games also have word like 魔 found within them. It stands for devil. So those games are promoting Santanic cults and should be banned or boycott?
So it comes back to the same thing, in the first place why are those things even in those games / movies and etc? Does people even differentiate virtual and reality these days? Which apparently I dont think many does these days... Should this thread be taken down? Or even N4G to be taken down as a whole? Because the world Allah actually on the topic title! Why is it even there? Whatever... this world should end quicker. Because people are getting more concern over a word in a game than if they are still alive the next morning they wake up.
Why does everyone always have to be so touchy all the time?
Let's rename Christmas to Happy Non-Denominational-So-As-Not-T o-Offend-Anyone-Day..
Anyway , just try to respect others believes , it wont harm you and its not against any religion believes , it is what bring peace , Each to his own believes :)
so its ok to kick the shit out of somebody, as long as you aren't reminded of god?
Although I'm not Muslim myself, I'm happy to stick my neck out and state that the overwhelming majority of Muslims will be as confused as we are as to why Namco have opted to remove it. It's just a silly knee-jerk reaction to a furore that doesn't exist.
Some people have remained noble even during these vile times and still uphold a class of morale.
Dont judge them for trying to conserve that , then complain about how the world is messed up & not the way it was.
Muslims in particular take very high morale when it comes to anything concerning their god naturally something like this would massively offend them.
Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus,
Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus,
Mohammed, Mohammed, Mohammed, Mohammed, Mohammed,
Mohammed, Mohammed, Mohammed, Mohammed, Mohammed,
Anybody offended? Too bad the complaint department is closed!
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