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Submitted by bunt-custardly 789d ago | opinion piece

Halo 4 graphics - will next gen be that much better?

With the Halo 4 launch trailer using in game graphics, it raises the question as to how good the majority of next gen games will look in comparison. (Halo 4, Next-Gen, Xbox 360)

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Keith Olbermann  +   789d ago
Dumb. Current gen games look better.
Captain Qwark 9  +   789d ago
very few if any, at least not on consoles. uncharted and god of war 3 are prob the only two that can give it a competition as far as i can see. perhaps heavy rain too but thats barely a game.

and dont cite weak games with washed out color palettes either. halo has achieved its graphics using a wide variety of colors as opposed to 2-3
NewZealander  +   788d ago
halo 4 looks insane, im blown away by the fact that 343 have taken a game that was getting seriously dated and shaken it up to produce a game that looks this good, it was probably a huge risk to take halo fans away from what they know and show a different side of the series, but its probably the best thing they could have done for the series.

the standard just keeps getting higher, halo 4 looks buttery smooth, add that to forza horizon, one of the most impressive open world racers i have ever seen, i was blown away by how smooth that game is and virtually free from pop in and frame dips....its unreal

just goes to show theres still a bit of life in the current consoles!
Army_of_Darkness  +   788d ago | Well said
Are you people serious?!?!
Killzone 3 looks way better than this game! who ever says otherwise is just ridiculous... OMG.
GameNameFame  +   788d ago
Go look at trailers for "in game graphics" Halo 3 trailers
and go play halo 3.

You will immediately realize halo 3 looks nothing like "in game" graphics trailer.

Mostly because Bungie did alot of touch ups on it. Since 343 has some people from Bungie, wont be surprised they did the same.

Even with the touch ups, graphics are not as good as certain games already out there.
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ChrisW  +   788d ago
Army,

Could you at least try to compare H4 to a game on the Xbox? Sheesh!
CommonSense  +   788d ago
@army
i don't find KZ to be visually impressive. Guess i'm "ridiculous."
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wishingW3L  +   788d ago | Well said
@CommonSense yes you are. You probably don't find it impressive because:

1. you have no idea what the game does at a technical level. Here are 3 links so you can learn to appreciate it:

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

2. you're just judging the game's art direction

3. fanboy goggles
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Ak47Russia  +   788d ago
@NewZealander

Forza horizon car models are so low poly i have the models for my 3d max and they are between 50k and 80k polys, that why the game is smooth. even car models and environment in NFS most wanted looks way better than Horizon...

Fanboys......
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ShinMaster  +   788d ago
Halo 4 looks similar to Mass Effect
So unless we're saying Mass Effect has the best graphics and animations, then no.

Also, as someone above already said, if you compare Halo's "Gameplay" trailers(i.e. Halo 3) vs the actual game when you play it, looks different.

Halo 4 does look great. It's among some of the best looking console games. Killzone has some technical achievements that I don't think any other console game this gen has match.
God of War, Uncharted and The Last of Us are pretty impressive as well.
humbleopinion  +   788d ago
@Army_of_Darkness
I don't find Killzone 3 even comparable to Halo Reach level graphics. It does some things right, but lacks in many other area: It has amazing particle effects and some of the best character animations for an FPS, and the art direction is very good. The forward renders makes the lighting also look very good.
But on the other hand it has no HDR at all results in limited color range, many textures are blurry, small framebuffer for explosions and visual effects makes them look blurry, the archaic MLAA implementation doesn't look good (even the QSAA they had for Killzone 2 looks much better), and many models are just too low poly. The game suffers in many different areas, especially if you compare it to Halo Reach graphics which excels in all the things I mentioned here (perhaps except for their own AA method which is also not very good).

You're bringing Killzone 3 to a Halo thread here, but even if you are not trolling at least try to stick to the technical truth. Calling people who say otherwise "ridiculous" without even bringing up any fact to back your claims up is ridiculous by itself.

This is what the game actually looks like - with no touch ups or supersampling:
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/...
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/...
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/...
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/...
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/...

Pretty good IMO, but will reserve judgement until actually playing it.

@GTRcivic
Forza Horizon, just like any other racing game, had multiple LOD models raging from probably 5k to 500k (Forza 4 carried even higher polycount in photo mode) depending on the car distance and game mode. 50-70K for a model is actually very good considering most good looking games don't even offer half of that for their main character.

Forza Horizon is indeed the best looking open world racing game, but the truth is that it doesn't have much competition (only Test Drive unlimited, Fuel and the aging burnout paradise).
lets see how NFS Most Wanted actually turns out in comparison this coming week, but based on their vast past experience I do expect Criterion to deliver a game which is at least as beautiful. I for one don't mind having two amazing looking open world racers released at the same timeframe.
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insomnium2  +   788d ago
@humbleopinion

Did you lok at the photos you linked? You can't even tell if that's a last gen or a current gen game from those pics.

More importantly using pics only to try and say KZ is not comparable is....well....I don't even know what to say to that.
BertlSenix  +   788d ago
The Last of Us,The new God of War Game and Beyond Two Souls look a lot better than Halo 4 and so does Uncharted 3.

Halo 4 is maybe the best looking game on the 360(i think Witcher 2 looks better) but overall the upcoming PS3 Exclusives destroy it.
Kurt Russell  +   788d ago
Regardless of the usual graphical arguement (I think Halo 4 looks great personally, others clearly are not so wowwed) gameplay wise Halo 4 looks brilliant... I personally cannot wait to play it.
@Captain Qwark 9

crysis 2 & 3? oh yes that was easy

also killzone 3
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

we are talking about graphics right? so there u go.

Also it's another halo which is ok. But name at least 3-5 new AAA ip's that are not shooter exclusive on 360. and Not some forza sh!t either.
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INehalemEXI  +   788d ago
halo 4 gfx they aight...meh compared to wii u games.
ambientFLIER  +   788d ago
Killzone is linear as shit. Halo 4 isn't. Not hard to make a good looking game when you're forcing players down linear corridors that are ten feet wide...versus having a huge Halo warzone.
humbleopinion  +   785d ago
@insomnium2

If you find these photos last gen you must have a very high end PC with very actual few games to utilize it. I would have even believed you if you didn't bring Killzone 3 to the argument.

Have you actually compared direct feed and non-bullshots images from Killzone 3? As I said, Halo Reach already surpassed it on a technical level. What makes you think that 2 years later the difference won't be bigger?

I guess there's a reason why we don't see any direct feed comparisons here from other FPS games. It's easier for people to talk nonsense when they don't have a point of reference. It's also easier to talk about future games from different genres that can't be properly analyzed.
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AfricanGamer9ja  +   788d ago | Well said
It will forever never be as good as Killzone2/3,I can only imagine how Killzone4 will be on the PS4.
Muffins1223  +   788d ago | Well said
Well,everything will be grey and ugly
AfricanGamer9ja  +   788d ago | Well said
@Muffins1223 then you have not played the game.
MariaHelFutura  +   788d ago
Gray and Beautiful.
jonli76   788d ago | Trolling | show
It looks about as good as Resistance 3.
spicelicka   788d ago | Personal attack | show
Muerte2494  +   788d ago
@JonLI76
You have clearly never played Killzone 2. That game differs from Halo in almost every from of the word. Halo Reach and even Halo 4 have adopted making the gun as big and detailed only after they seen Killzone 2.

http://www.lazygamer.net/xb...

Killzone 2 had a weight feel to it. Like you were actually carrying a gun and not something made out of cardboard. I love Halo and will be logging many hours into Halo 4. But Killzone 2 was beast of a game and had longer legs on it then Killzone 3. I didn't like the COD direction Guerilla took with that one.
Norrison  +   788d ago
Killzone looks like shit, low res textures everywhere, even though I like the PS3 more, I hated killzone especially the third one, it looks "Good" because of the ugly color filters it uses to hide it's lack of detail.
spicelicka  +   788d ago
explain this to me, can killzone simultaneously have close to 40 enemies, vehicles, 5 times the amount of space, and 4PLAYER CO-OP with all players interacting with different things all over the map! and pull even close to the kind of graphics it seems to have???

NO? Then stop making fail comparisons!! you're even making people who like killzone hate on it.
tubers  +   788d ago
KZ2 > KZ3 ... The low contrast was really beatiful.. KZ3 graphics looks a bit "different".. the mix of contrast didn't have that impact for me. KZ 2 had a very unique graphical presentation also with its gun fov and swerves.

This Halo 4 graphics doesn't look THAT amazing nor unique compared to GoW 3, KZ 2, Crysis 1/2, BF3 graphical presentation..

(not talking about lore and gameplay here)
AsheXII  +   788d ago
Halo has colors, it doesn't need black pallets to cover up the smudges.
Soldierone  +   788d ago
Seriously people complain about how things are done to look good now.....Who cares how they did it, Killzone still looks amazing.

And for those saying "oh its only dull colors" you obviously only watched the trailers. Killzone 3 has plenty of jungle area's with greens and blues in it.
TooTall19  +   788d ago
There are a lot of people who need to get the Killzone Trilogy. Killzone 2 and 3 are the best looking console shooters this gen. It's tough to tell how good Halo 4 will look from trailers, but it's highly unlikely that it will surpass Killzone.
WetN00dle69  +   788d ago
LMFAO!! Ive seen in game Halo 4 footage dude. I managed to see the first 10mins before they removed the video. And let me tell you HALO 4 craps all over both KZ 2 and 3.
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CrustifiedDibbs  +   788d ago | Well said
So many ps3 fanboys talking about kz, yet the servers for kz 2 and 3 are ghostowns. There are more people playing halo3 that both kz put together. If kz Is so great, why don't you fanboys play it instead of bragging about it on the net?

Halo looks very bit as good as kz (if not better) and that's with more ai on screen, bigger area, and WAY more game types and features. Without shiny graphics, kz is another bad shooter. Great graphics in halo Is just another plus for a top notch fps. Kz relies on graphics, halo does not.
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JasonKCK  +   788d ago
I dont get how pro Halo comments in Halo news are being removed for trolling, but I can mention KZ or PS3 20 times and get a "well said".
starchild  +   788d ago
I haven't seen any other shooter on console that looks better. Only the Crysis games maxed on PC look better, and to be honest I still prefer the way Halo 4 looks. It's simply gorgeous.
Norrison  +   788d ago
Half of the PC games look better than Halo 4
vishant101  +   788d ago
@ above I assume you mean just raw pixels because let me tell you the art direction and the art style on halo 4 is better then 90% of pc games
greenpowerz  +   788d ago
It's not just the visuals but also the sandbox open maps with open space gameplay(ground/sky/sea) Number of smart AI, vehicles, co-op plus state of the state of the art graphics.

It's the way people should truly measure a console's power just as the PC community determines how powerful pc hardware needs to be to run games that are demanding on processing many things at once not just one thing or the other(either graphics only or modern open design with decent looks)

The way people should see this, is the fact MSFT doesn't think many games are worthy enough to push the hardware with tailored game engines and big enough budgets like Sony does with exception of Forza 4/H and Halo 4
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Cupid_Viper_3  +   788d ago
Awww cmon guys, we're not going to do this again are we? Every time Halo releases people claim that it's the best looking game on consoles.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

I don't understand why people can't just be happy that finally for the first this Generation, Halo is in HD and is reaching graphic levels expected of Multi Million dollar franchise.

The game looks great, and it has a lot of great things going for it, but you know that it won't win in the graphics department, certainly not against the countless PS3 games that are already, and are to come.
Plus we have multiplayer games like Metal Gear Ground Zero that looks a lot better then Halo 4 and other PS3 games so far, so why would HALO 4 Be the Graphical Standard all of a sudden
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Muerte2494  +   788d ago
Halo 4 looks,
amazing....for a Halo game, and this is coming from a Halo fanatic. But I've played Killzone2 and 3. I love those but for different reasons why I like Halo. I can't stand when people talk about Killzone2 when they have never played it. Halo:Reach and 4 have implemented recoil which was something they didn't have before Killzone2.
rpd123  +   788d ago
@Muerte2494

That doesn't mean they got the idea from Killzone 2. There were plenty of games that implemented recoil between Halo 3 and Halo Reach and before Killzone even existed.

Anyways, I don't see why people have to compare everything and chose a winner. I don't think Killzone 2 or Halo 4 are the most graphically impressive this gen.
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insomnium2  +   788d ago
rpd nailed it.
SkyGamer  +   788d ago
Halo 2 says hi on the recoil....and that was last gen!
Shadonic  +   788d ago
have you been looking at the gameplay with your screen turned off or something? I call sony fanboy on this one
showtimefolks  +   788d ago
well this turned into another fanboy war article over halo and killzone. IMO Halo 4 looks much much better than games before but not on KZ level but moving forward KZ is a franchise that sony will show case its tech more than anything else.

why can't we just live with that? also to anyone asking if next gen graphics will better better than the answer is 100% yes. Not only graphics but game worlds will be enriched with more to do a lot more to see so better tech better graphics its common sense. Here is a better question though how long before next gen system will be used in a way to gain the extra benefits? it took ps3 good 2-3 years before we started to see games that were starting to push the tech

Best looking games this gen IMO

Uncharted 2
God of war 3
Alan Wake
when Bioshock came out it was quite good
Metro last light could be added to the list
GTA 4 and RDR set new standards for open world games
Halo 4 looks extremely good
vandal GAB  +   788d ago
@showtimefolks

Best looking CONSOLE games this gen IMO (FIXED)

And don't forget the witcher 2..
Ak47Russia  +   788d ago
This guy who wrote the article needs glasses

Halo 4 launch trailer its all touched up... WTF is this guy talking about? played Halo 4 its available on Tor***nts (still buying it) it looks good but not even close to the Trailer, there are many current gen games that look better than halo4...
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andibandit  +   788d ago
LOL @ Killzone

are you seriously gonna take a game that never has more than 4 enemies on screen and marvel what they done with the graphics???
They looked at Halo and said lets have:

Dumber AI
Smaller Maps
Fewer Enemies
Slow paced Combat

just so we can get better graphics......only fools would praise the graphics, because they dont realize what they've sacrificed to get it.
sly-Famous  +   788d ago
Maybe you should play the game first before making comments that make you look silly son. If you played KZ you would have known that the AI is one of the best in the business and dont say you have played it because your comment proves otherwise. KZ may have fewer enemies but the fact is KZ3 was easily able to generate as many characters and GG did it without a visible drop in frame rate and that is the game changer as far as graphics go I just find it funny that Xbox fanboys are comparing Halo4 to a two year old game(which btw still looks better) when TLOU & Beyond: TS has clearly raised the bar for consoles once again, all done on the PS3
BigStef71  +   788d ago
Everything you said makes no sense at all. The AI in the game is amazing. But the thing that shows your ignorance is by saying only 4 enemies are on screen at a time. You must have never played the level of KZ2 where your storming the Visari Palace and enemies just keep coming and coming until you progress to the end. Im pretty sure that part had way more than 4 enemies on the screen. So before you start trolling about how KZ sucks at least know what the fuck you are talking about. Also I like Halo and think halo 4 looks amazing but theres no way it looks as good as KZ3 which is arguably one of the if not the best looking FPS on current consoles and thats a fact my friend
Jaces  +   788d ago
I'll reserve judgement till it comes out, then we can fight over whether H4 is going to be better looking than next gen games.

My take on it though....I think it'll be just like every Halo game, looks good in trailers but not so much in game. Prove me wrong 343
ambientFLIER  +   788d ago
Lol...I still play Halo 3 on occasion and it looks damn good to me in motion. I dont know wtf kind of standards you have...
Jaces  +   787d ago
The standard where the trailers graphics live up to the actual gameplay during my run through of the campaign.

Those kind.
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Captain Qwark 9  +   788d ago
and it seems a few of you think killzone is better, the game full of 4 colors.......black, grey, brown, touch of red. very similar to gears. all this is an opinion since so many factors influence graphics but as ive stated before, i dont find graphics impressive when they use such a limited color range. it gets boring and repetitive
N4realGMRZ  +   788d ago
Halo 4 is the current Beast of this Console cycle.....its polish runs circles around any PS3 game with exception of maybe GOW 3........
XabiDaChosenOne  +   788d ago
@humbleopnion those pictures look horrible... especially that last one...
mewhy32  +   788d ago
This game is mind blowingly awesome!!! I can't belived the extremely high level of fidelity. There isn't a game on the market that looks as good as this! What a way for Halo to close out this gen!! I mean WOW!!
princejb134  +   788d ago
lol i agree
there just showing a cgi
how about some actual gameplay so we can see its the same thing over again
Vortex3D  +   788d ago
I think everyone forgets is how good the graphics look isn't how new the hardware can be. It takes lot of understanding how to get the old hardware to produce incredible looking graphics, ie. optimization, cheats or tricks in how the graphics are drawn, and well understanding how to program the video hardware.

It takes years for the next gen hardware to show its full potential because it's opposite to what I wrote above.
darkride66  +   787d ago
Personally, I can't wait to see what 343 does with the Halo franchise. So far it looks pretty damn impressive and I'm much more stoked for this game then I thought I would be after I found Reach to be a disappointment (from a story and single player perspective). I love that the story and characters seem to be central to this game again.

As for next gen, I'll echo what other devs have already been saying. I don't think we'll see much in the way of improved graphics. There's already only so much developers can do with the resources available to them, otherwise every game out there would look like Uncharted or Gears. What I think we'll see is better environmental interaction, better particle effects, better AI, etc. The graphics may not be overly improved but they'll probably be able to get away with more complexity in game.
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lordz95  +   785d ago
What I dont get is why the fuck is he comparing pc and console graphics seeing as pcs hardware can be changed to make games look better and mods that make games look better
Nicaragua  +   789d ago | Well said
What a dumb title - Halo 4 looks nice but its hardly a benchmark for graphics.
trenso1  +   789d ago
Agreed they're giving it way to much credit. It's only cause it has halo on the title.
spicelicka  +   788d ago | Well said
That's bullshit, annoying fans who are used to linear corridor games with 3 inches of space to move around have been hating on halo's graphics for years. I rarely see halo get the credit it deserves for graphics.

Halo 3 didn't look amazing i agree, Reach was a bigg improvement though not the best, but halo 4 looks insane.

People have no sense of judgement. It's like looking at a car in GTA4 vs Forza. You can't ever make a car look as good in GTA as in Forza because forza is so compact and linear, they can obviously make the cars look better because you don't go off the road.

It's a sort of farfetched example because of course halo isn't completely open sandboxed like GTA, and games like killzone aren't extremely linear like forza, but you pull both things together more and you'll get the idea.
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trenso1  +   788d ago
@spicelicka i never said they looked bad, they are in fact good but they arent a graphical upgrade that people are making it out to be. It certainly looks better than other shooters this year, but to say the graphics are a benchmark is giving the game way more credit then it's due.

"That's bullshit, annoying fans who are used to linear corridor games with 3 inches of space to move around have been hating on halo's graphics for years. I rarely see halo get the credit it deserves for graphics."

Even though you didn't directly say it this was a jab toward me and I'm more of an RPG player just giving my two cents.
vortis  +   788d ago
@spicelicka someone obviously hasn't seen GTA 4 running on the latest iCEnhancer...it uses higher-poly versions of Forza's cars. Oh burnnnn.
miDnIghtEr20C_SfF  +   788d ago
Well said Spicelicka... well said.

Halo is doomed from the anti Halo fans from the start anyways. For the haters, it can only be a few things. Right now it's Halo 3 and Reach sucked.

When Halo 4 receives the high review scores... it will be in the 90s... then the fanboys will scream out.. "OH! Because of the Halo name it got those scores!!!11!" All while never playing the game, or even owning an xbox.

It will go on and on. The only ones who will be happy are like the 6 million people who are buying the game and playing it. ;)
lordz95  +   785d ago
@vortis why the fuck are you comparing pc and console graphics and your talking about a mod on gta 4 on pc were talking bout console games and their actual graphics not something with improve graphics with a mod I bet if consoles let you put on mods for halo 4 with a mod like you mentioned halo would kick any games graphics out the window you idiot
wages of sin  +   789d ago
Whatever. Let me know when the PS3 gets an FPS that looks as good, plays as good and that offers as much content. Vast open worlds with vehicles...keep dreaming.

OT: There's always room for improvement but Halo 4 looks amazing and I look forward to the series future.
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killerhog  +   789d ago
Try kz2 (kz2 being 2009) and then kz3 buddy. On a standard tv those two games had some of my friends go "is this HD?".

Tell me when there's a tps that's look and runs (offers as much on screen real-time) better than starhawk. You wanted to throw Sony into an Xbox article so ill shove it in your mouth.
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zebramocha  +   788d ago
No of the halo's were open world,there were just big, Sony has dust,resistance 2 mag while not the graphic equal their are more players than in halo.
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dannylilley  +   788d ago
Yeah it's really not that amazing, decent but nothing ground breaking.

As for the PS3 FPS - Killzone 3. It may not be the same in terms of gameplay, open worlds and vehicles but I'm sorry that is at least on par in terms of visuals. I don't think you can compare gameplay wise though as it's personal preference. Floaty space combat or more gritty military combat. Two very different styles.
killerhog  +   788d ago
Didn't want to sound harsh but halo is indeed a good looking game but to call out Sony/ps3 wasn't necessary, considering the ps3 has games that could set benchmarks easily as well.
FoxHound_  +   788d ago
Sorry Sony tries to focus on more genres of games and not just first person and 3rd person shooters.
WrAiTh Sp3cTr3  +   788d ago
Uhh, Starhawk is sub-hd, Halo 4 is not...
Jaces  +   788d ago
Who needs an great looking FPS when PS3 has multiple titles that are NOT FPS and just as fun.

Just sayin....no hate here.
pain777pas  +   788d ago
Wages of Sin, Killerhog is right. Starhawk is the best open world shooter on console and I reckon that will still be the case after Halo 4 is released. Becareful you guys not to get too fanboyish because I have a strong feeling that you will walk away disappointed. Halo 4 is constructed in a way so that you can get great moments and screen shots and trailers go look at the vidocs for the game closely. The ingame will not be much better than Halo Reach in fact it may even have the better campaign overall. In game Halo 4 looks like Resistance 2 guys. Do not say that you were not warned.
Intentions  +   789d ago
Well it will be like this: At first it would be good but not as a great of a leap, throughout the year games will look slightly better. Then after 1-1/2 years later, that's where you will see the biggest leap in term of graphics.
Smokingunz  +   789d ago
It looks incredible!!!
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AngelicIceDiamond  +   789d ago
The game looks very top notch for a current gen Game. I mean they really pushed the boundaries graphically. As far as next gen is concerned graphics would look like Halo and Uncharted standard, but not anything really amazing right off the bat.
Dread  +   789d ago
After seven years the 360 keeps getting better!
mcstorm  +   788d ago
I have to agree. The fan boys of what ever console will always say another game looks better but halo 4 forza horizon forza 4 and gears of war 3 are 4 of the best looking games this gen and the best looking games on the 360.

People said the 360 could not match the ps3 but those 4 games show it can if a game is done right but for me its how the game makes me feel when playing it not how it looks.

I still have an amiga 32 snes n64 dreamcast and a gamecube that i use every now and then and yes the graphics look poor but the game play makes up for that.

I say well done to microsoft nintendo and sony for still pushing the limit of there consoles and giving us some of the best games ive ever player and long may it continue.
StrawHatPatriot  +   788d ago
The Last of Us, Uncharted 2/3, and especially Beyond: Two Souls says otherwise.
Outside_ofthe_Box  +   788d ago
Yeah it's funny how people are always saying that x game maxed out x console, but then there are always games that gets released that out does said game pushing new limits.
tee_bag242  +   788d ago
I saw a demo of Halo 4 and it looked really good and is definitely an improvement

The thing with graphics getting better as the consoles get older - Frame rate is usually sacrificed as graphics can sell games (and win comparison tests).
Your example of Forza Horizon is a perfect example. Its no longer a silky 60fps. Not to be that guy but , arguably its not improving when frame rates are taxed.
mcstorm  +   788d ago
@StrawHatPatriot I never said they looked better than any other game I said it shows that the 360 can keep up with the PS3 in terms of looks. Stop being a fan boy UC 2/3 and GA look good to the same as Kill Zone 2 and 3.

@tee_bag242 I also agree with you but Have you played the Demo of Foza Horizon as I have not noticed a drop in frame rate and the amout of people I have seen comment on here about forza Horizon when I have said it is 30fps they have said they have not noticed the difference.
jonli76  +   788d ago
i totally agree with u
SAE  +   788d ago
better ?.. are you kidding me ?
halo > forza > gears >halo > forza > gears ...etc

that's it , what's better ?. it's the same , we want more games not this circle path ..

i want new things like alan wake , not the same game with more improvements for years without releasing other games , im not saying the sequels aren't good , it's just not worth keeping the xbox360 if there is no games but these , the right way to explain this , each year ms getting worst not better...

i would be glad to be proven wrong because im seeking for games , am i wrong ?. explain why it's better ...
hellvaguy  +   788d ago
"halo > forza > gears >halo > forza > gears"

And that sir is the coined phrase of every psfanboy. If I were to reverse roles Id say this: Uncharted>God of War>Uncharted>God of War.
Or number 2 bias: Mario>Zelda>Mario>Zel da

Obviously all consoles have over 500 game releases, yet to point out only 2 selections is very ignorant and unoriginal.
Jaces  +   788d ago
Uncharted>GOW>KZ>Demo ns Souls>MGS>R&C>Res istance>Heavy Rain>Warhawk>inFamous> ;Last of Us>LBP>Last Guardian

I can keep going on, don't tell us PS3 doesn't have more than two exclusive titles worth playing. ;)
JamieL  +   788d ago
@ Jaces

Well I can make the same argument about the 360. I think there are more than 2 exclusives as well. Blue Dragon> Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts>Crackdown>Fable> ;Forza>Halo>Gears of War>Halo Wars>Kameo: Elements of Power>Lost Odyssey>Ninety-Nine Nights>Viva Piñata: Party Animals, just to make a list too.+ you have games that aren't even out yet and one that’s been OTW since this gen started. Both consoles have plenty of games worth playing, and hell the Wii does too. While ya'll have the rulers out seeing who's got the biggest, I'm over here playing any good game that comes out for any system. I like games not corporations.
Jaces  +   787d ago
@JamieL

No rulers needed, just stating a facts. Not to sound fanboyish but a lot of those games listed aren't even worth buying let alone something to brag about in an exclusives war.

I can agree on LO though, great game. The others have already passed their trilogy mark and others have lost their luster in previous sequels.

As for the list I spat out most where just off the top of my head, LoU and LG are guaranteed gems when both are being headed up by already proven developers.
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M1chl  +   789d ago
I hope...
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TXIDarkAvenger  +   789d ago
Next gen could look a lot better but damn I must say I'm impressed Halo 4 looks amazing and 360 is pretty old.
jonli76  +   788d ago
it really is impressive
SAE  +   789d ago
it's not 2006 to put halo with good looking graphics in one sentence ...

halo is a normal game , it was great in it's time but it's hyped now , nothing special in it now like before ...
SAE  +   788d ago
best example : resistance 1 , it was amazing , split screen was really fun and the online was something new , the story is interesting and even the graphics were a huge jump compared to the other games in the other consoles ...

but now when you go play it you will say it's hyped , no it's not because people are not saying it's the best game in console now , it was the best in it's time , i guess xbox360 players don't play other games to see the huge leap between them and halo , halo is more like cod now , it may be fun but it is not something you can brag about it and consider a prototype of next generation games that we never seen ...

but when you look at MGS GZ ( which is in all platforms ) you can consider it a next generation game that working on this generation because it looks impressive and something special for having that kind of graphics in a sort of open world , or uncharted or crysis or max payne ... etc not halo -.-
Conzul  +   788d ago
The fidelity is on par with Killzone 3. It's good, but not better than next-gen

So to answer article's query: Yes, next-gen's realtime graphics will be significantly better. And, if trends mean anything, Ninty will keep on sucking in the casuals; Micro$oft will keep sucking in the shooter crowd, and Sony will keep hoarding the story-lovers.
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josephayal  +   788d ago
The game I've been waiting for
I Think Halo 4 Set a new benchmark for console graphics, Halo 4 is Biggest Blockbuster in Xbox/Microsoft History
CGI-Quality  +   788d ago
http://cloud-2.steampowered...

That's a pic I took of Crysis 2 on my PC with the BlackFire 2 Mod coupled with MaLDo's HD texture mod v2.0. Once console games come close to that, we can discuss what looks "next gen" or not. Right now, Halo 4 is a beautiful title, but don't stick it in a category that will only invite people to pick apart what is, otherwise, a mighty fine looking 360 exclusive title.
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CGI-Quality  +   788d ago
Shame you get disagrees on N4G for making sense.
jetlian  +   788d ago
you disagrees because the article is how much better will next gen be. And though that was a good picture its cant be compared given the content of the worlds

You cant compare mona lisa to a picaso. Different styles. Halo doesnt try to look like the real world.
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Npugz7  +   788d ago
Your going to be surprised at how much better next gen graphics will be. Halo 4 looks incredible but next gen is going to blow people away!
hellvaguy  +   788d ago
Omg like totally in 20 years, you know your going to be impressed with the visuals!
MrDead  +   788d ago
I wish Microsoft hadn't of banned Halo from PC's as I enjoyed these titles.

Also the only reason this has been posted on the PS3 section is to get hits and make the story No.1. This has nothing to do with the PS3.
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hennessey86  +   788d ago
Halo 4
Looks stunning, no need to talk about any other game or platform for that matter.
a_bro  +   788d ago
The game reminds me of Halo 1, that makes it better. I'm Psyched
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chukamachine  +   788d ago
Halo a benchmark, rofl.

Sorry just no.

Trailers are well done. But seriously in the graphics dept it does not stack up against many games.

I'm sure halo 5-6 will on the 720.
AngelicIceDiamond  +   788d ago
Halo 4 doesn't stack up to many games graphically and what games would that be? Let me guess allot of PlayStation games.

Considering allot of games that been made this gen aren't graphical masterpieces So I'm curious to see how this game doesn't "stack up to many games" graphically.

These are real time pics, and imagine with these kind of graphics gameplay is in no way hindered but has gotten 5x better according to the vids.

You must be graphically blind to thinks these graphics don't stand out.

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BitbyDeath  +   788d ago
To be fair it is probably one of the best looking games on 360.
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JasonKCK  +   788d ago
I disagree, Halo 4 looks just as good as anything I played on PS3. Halo 4 on PC would be amazing.

Will I get removed for trolling because disagree?
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StreetsofRage  +   788d ago
Halo 4 arguably is the best looking fps on the market as of today. Especially if you consider the huge open maps and the amount of content.

But I would hope next gen would look better...i want it to look much much better! I always want more.
taquito  +   788d ago
there are free games on pc that look better than anything on console, free....lol

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

and those are just some free games

sadly, games like bf3/metro2033/crysis 1 and 2/shogun 2 ect...ect....in 2560x1600 with 8x aa are beyond ANYTHING next gen consoles will ever do

but they certainly need to be at least as good as a bunch of free games in 1080p

that means that next gen consoles will be REQUIRED to be at least that level, or else.....man....that would blow
BitbyDeath  +   788d ago
The graphics leap over consoles is not really that great, you can flash large numbers around all you want but when you compare side by side the differences are minimal at best.

Also Halo is about fun first, out of all those games you listed only BF3 comes close.
Norrison  +   788d ago
All of them are fun, it seems you only like to play fps, like most of the console crowd. Also they're light years ahead of consoles, you think games with lame ass color filters to hide their lack detail look good I guess. There are few exceptions, like some ps3 exclusives, forza and this halo game, but they still look average at best, for PC standards. They look awesome for Console standards
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CGI-Quality  +   788d ago
You really need to see the best of PC. It's not even a comparison.
DEATHxTHExKIDx  +   788d ago
I could only imagine how much of a jump in graphics a next gen Halo could have.
Belking  +   788d ago
I've seen the game and it's gorgeous.
tudors  +   788d ago
Well I have had both consoles for some time now and I think they are both great, but in all fairness I have never noticed a massive difference in PS3 and Xbox 360 graphics, I have noticed the frame rates tend to be better on 360, UC3 looked amazing but I have not been impressed with the Killzone games, boring and dull looking, they look better on youtube videos than they do when playing them, much prefer the Halo look.
Trekster_Gamer  +   788d ago
Halo 4 looks awesome but compare to say the CGI cutscenes in Halo Wars look A LOT better and I think the CGI in Halo Wars is more what like FPS would look like in a next gen system.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...
HeavenlySnipes  +   788d ago
Am I watching a different video from everyone else? Its the waypoint one right?

How are people looking at that video and saying this game is the best looking console game? Yes the the spartan armor is VERY detailed but everything else is not.
XabiDaChosenOne  +   788d ago
That's what I said, environments look like crap but this happens every time a new halo comes out. Just wait until the comparison vids come out that will quiet the ones in denial.
CyrusLemont  +   788d ago
The game looks pretty good I guess, but 100% it's sucked every little bit of juice out of the Xbox 360. Most games have for the last year and a half now. This is also Microsoft's flagship game, and it really seems like they're treating it like that. The hybrid of what seems to be in the millions of dollars live-action sequences and actual gameplay throughout the game give it a strange blend. I can only imagine that Microsoft have spent $120 million+ on producing this game. Not really a great comparison of what next gen games will look like. If the next Xbox has 10 times the power, imagine what 343 could do with all their money and resources from Microsoft in Halo 5. Halo 4 will look so outdated. Plus the Unreal Engine 4, and Square Enix' new engine are really impressive too.
Shadonic  +   788d ago
The game looks pretty good I guess, but 100% it's sucked every little bit of juice out of the Xbox 360. people have been saying that for so long on every new game thats graphics heavy and they keep surpassing whats been done before. I would wait until the absoulute last current gen game before i judge.
CyrusLemont  +   788d ago
Hey, but it's true! The last year of games haven't really shown anything jaw dropping, they all feel like they're using the maximum power available to them. Developers have had to cut so many corners now to make these games work with such limited RAM and underpowered hardware compared to modern stuff. Try playing Borderlands 2 on PC at 1080p with every at max, then on Xbox 360. The experience is just infinitely better on PC because of the hardware, I was running it 35fps+ on a GTX280 which is old now. Imagine the lowest bar for a next gen Xbox game looking like a modern PC game at max settings. It will seriously blow away everything on this gen.
cheapness1  +   788d ago
Lol try Borderlands 2 at 1080p on PC...

Seriously if you think 1080p on PC is 'amazing' what would you do if you played it at 2560 X 1440p's?!?!

I think we all know that consoles will never match gaming PC rigs...

As for Halo 4 I'm reserving judgement till I've played it myself, I watched the trailers for Halo 3 and Reach really was nothing like the actual game despite being in-engine (which does not necessarily imply gameplay!) and the clips I've seen weren't exactly mind blowing but a step up from previous definately.
The real Colombian  +   788d ago
Next gen will probably provide more gameplay innovations than graphical ones. I can't wait to see what next gen offers but for now Halo 4 is poised to once again be the king of FPS. Judging by the trolls it seem they better get a 360 because the envy alone might kill em.
Shadonic  +   788d ago
I want graphics as good as the CG in the trailer for next gen :D not possible i know but a man can dream!!
_LarZen_  +   788d ago
When they can make this good looking games on todays consoles the next gen is gonna be mind blowing.

It's a fun time to be a gamer!
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