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‘PlayStation All-Stars: Battle Royale’ Beta Impressions | StickSkills

StickSkills said, "PlayStation All-Stars: Battle Royale combines all the best characters, locations and items from Sony’s deep library of games into one, massive fighting game. Kratos, Nathan Drake, Sly Cooper and a slew of other exciting personalities will meet up on November 20 to duke it out like men, but before that release date, we’ve been given a chance to experience the holiday blockbuster through a Vita and PlayStation Plus beta. If you don’t fall into either of those categories, the multiplayer experience will be open to all PSN users October 23. Yet, for those who’d rather just hear some general impressions now, we here at StickSkills have got you covered. Four of our editors have been kicking the living hell out of each other online over the past week, and along with those beatings comes a group of our impressions of the beat so far." (PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale, PS Vita, PS3)

Blastoise  +   648d ago
"I love Smash Bros. for all its charm, tight controls and zany battles. PlayStation All-Stars: Battle Royale doesn’t really have any of that, as far as this beta goes. Characters are unbalanced, and it’s often hard to tell what’s going on (not in the good way that Super Smash Bros. somehow manages to pull off)"

I'm sorry, what does that even mean. When things get confusing in all-stars its bad, but when things are confusing in smash bro's it pulls it off in a good way? okay then...

The controls are perfectly fine, whenever I press square the character attacks, whenever I press R2 the character uses its super. What more do you want?

And if you don't find charm in a thieving Raccoon, a murderous clown and a rapping dog fighting it out in a stage filled with sea monsters then I don't even know what to say.

Also, Stop comparing this game to smash bro's. You mention Smash bro's like 5 times
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HammadTheBeast  +   648d ago
Someone came prepared with an agenda. I agree with every point you make.
Mykky  +   647d ago
As someone who played super smash bros for a good 300 hours after it came out I totally get what he's saying. It's almost impossible to explain though. But I guess both him and me is already too used to SSB to be ready for something new in the genre.

To point it out very simple on how I feel: It does not have a deep learning curve as in Smash Bros. And what I mean by that is that in smash bros it is chaotic just like PS All Stars but if you know the other characters moves you can predict what he is gonna do and then dodge his attack and counter. This is little important in All Stars.
Also in Super Smash u must be able to take items off the enemy, inflict a lot of light damage so the enemy is easier to send flying and then use hard hits and combos with hits and throwing items to send them flying off stage. While in All Stars you try to inflict damage on opponents, it doesn't matter who it is and then acquire a super, stand close to the enemy and click it. You can't block a super in the same way as blocking attacks that send u flying in SSB.

I guess that wasn't simple at all, just tried to explain to the ones that hasn't played SSB.

I love All Stars though. It is mighty fun and I'm definitely going to buy it. It is different from SSB so let's just call them different games which they are and leave it at that!

(PS. The characters in PS All Stars isn't unbalanced at all, the guy probably just sucks)
Nimblest-Assassin  +   646d ago
300? Pff, I have played smash bros for a collective 1000 hours, and Im having fun with all stars

All stars is its own thing, and smash is its own thing
Mykky  +   645d ago
300 is a lot, 1000 is sick. I have fun with All Stars too and as I said they are two different games. Read the whole text next time you comment.
Mikey32230  +   648d ago
first of all... this is a playable demo BETA! they are testing everything hopefully they will fine tune and tweak things.

but it is not super smash bros... so don't expect it to be
VitaOwner  +   648d ago
A lot of their criticism is very nitpicky. I've played this game everyday since the beta came out and I at first thought the characters were unbalanced as well. After playing with all of them for a while, I don't think that is quite the case. Each fighter is very unique and you can't play each character the same way and expect to win. I was at first annoyed by kratos and radec, but now I win 90% of my matches against anyone and I main with Sly. I originally thought sweet tooth was useless but I just won 4 matches in a row with him after figuring out how he works. If you use strategy and not just button mash or spam, any character can beat any other character. I understand the comparisons to Smash, but All Stars is a game in its own right and shouldn't be judged by simply how it compares to Smash.

You also can't fully compare a beta to a fully completed game like Smash because you don't get the full experience. Of course there will be server issues and other problems like that. Betas exist to fix those problems before the full game is released. The reason Im getting it is because even with just six characters and limited features, the game is a blast and I still havent figured out everything about any character after playing it religiously since it came out. The issue of tracking the character is not that big of a problem after playing for a little while. Whenever I play with newbies on Smash, they almost always have a hard time following their character until they play a few matches. I just focus on the player number above my head if there are other people playing the same character in a match, or I just follow my character. It's no harder than Smash in my opinion and it is second nature now. The issue of charm is subjective. If you grew up on Playstation, it will have charm for you. I never grew up on nintendo and didn't know half the characters when I started playing Smash but I didn't let that ruin my good time. I simply learned about them as I played. All Stars has more charm for me than Smash because I grew up on Playstation. But that is just an opinion and others may feel differently, so a statement like that doesn't do well when you take into account you are talking to people who may not have grown up on Nintendo or play Smash. This game won't be for everyone, but I think it is a very deep and rewarding brawler with a large moveset for each character.
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yami930  +   648d ago
that ... was just ... BEAUTIFUL :'(
silkrevolver  +   648d ago
The game feels anemic to me.

I like it, but there is a lack of visceral impact to whenever you hit another character. I don't know if it's because a hit feels like it matters less because you can't kill another player traditionally, but I'm not a huge fan of the Super Attack system... which is a main pillar of the gameplay.
GammaSix  +   648d ago
At first i was frustrated with people like kratos and sly, but then guess what...I ADAPTED and i must say its great fun. My only issues are with 2 things with the controls.

When you roll you turn around

instead having to just hold a direction for a different attack, i think you should double tap it so you dont constantly get the same moves or the ones you dont want

Other than that its perfect
JetsFool3500  +   648d ago
Can't Do That...It's 4 Different Moves With Each Button
Snookies12  +   647d ago
Lol, I think he meant double tap the stick in the direction.
MightyPatapon  +   648d ago
PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale is better than Super Smash Bros. Brawl.

No one will admit it, but it's true.
newn4gguy  +   648d ago
Agreed. As an avid Super Smash Bros. Brawl fan, I wasn't sure if Superbot could pull it off.

They did though. They REALLY did. This is the new brawler. This is something that can/should be used in MLG and other professional gaming competitions.

Superbot is comprised of some of the most respected fighting game creators in the industry...and this game has been tested/tweaked by some of the best competitive fighting gamers in the world.

People are going to cry "unbalanced" no matter what you do. The balancing is unmatched in brawlers.
Virus201  +   648d ago
chrispseuphoria  +   648d ago
Totally agree. Super Smash Bros Brawl was on my Top 3 Games I've Played but PlayStation All Stars has already dethroned it with it's beta. I tried to play Brawl again but it's not the same anymore. PSABR has won me over. Now it's up to Nintendo to fight back with the next Smash Bros.
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Mykky  +   647d ago
How? I see u listed a lot of arguments to back up that statement.
MightyPatapon  +   648d ago
"PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale is stupid because it's unoriginal!"

"I don't like PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale because core gameplay is non-traditional."

Hypocrisy, hypocrisy everywhere.
r21  +   648d ago
At least one of them liked it alot :L Just asking but is anyone else having connection errors, i've been getting them alot and it makes playing it frustrating BUT when it does connect, the game is very enjoyable :D
Blastoise  +   648d ago
Yeah I've had a few errors. Just occasional timing out when trying to find a match, when im in a match 9 times out of 10 it will work fine.
The article says 4/5 times you'll get an error and in my experience its more 2/5 times.
r21  +   648d ago
Ah, good to know im not the only one. Was worried my wi fi was slow or something. Hopefully, SuperBot release a smal update or something to fix this.
skrug  +   648d ago
lol i get connection errors a lot.

i get to play like 1/10+ games... I lost count how many times I got disconnected...
boybato  +   648d ago
My success rate, meaning the number of times i could connect and finish the match, is 60%.

Also every time I am on the "connecting..." screen there is someone who always yells "hhhhhhhhheeeeeeellllllll llloooooooooo". weird.
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skrug  +   648d ago
@babyato

lol @ always someone yelling hello.

A lot of the times I get disconnected before the match starts. Sometimes it's right when it says 'fight'. Sometimes there's glitch/lag when they show each character and then after it starts for a split seconds, it disconnects.

Other times there's lag where I can't move until someone hits me a couple of times. When that happens 90% of the time it disconnects right after I get to move LOL...

I got maybe about 3-4 games of lag free games... Other games there were some slight lag, where someone, including me, teleports, character disappearing.

I hope when the game releases none of these problems occur.

I'm playing on the PSVita version.
XabiDaChosenOne  +   648d ago
As soon as they brought out the good ole smash comparisons I stopped reading. "it's really hard not to compare it to smash" STFU!!
belac09  +   648d ago
i love this game, im only playing the vita beta right now, but its really fun i think, ive never played ssb though, so whatever. i dont know why people are so stuck up about games anymore. kind of sad.
smashcrashbash  +   648d ago
Okay the one things beside all the other things I didn't understand about all these contradictions is he didn't like the stage combinations because it robs them of any identity? What the hell does that even mean? What identity is robbed? The stage's identity? What is robbed? We all know what they represent so how does it rob it of it identity? Also I stopped taking you seriously after 'shameless SSB clone' and the fact that you mentioned SSB about a dozen times. Like i said before talk about PASBR not SSB. Be professionals and stay on topic.And also like I said before you don't know how over powered Radec and Kratos really are until we fight every single character.You base them being over powered against a fraction of the characters.Suppose they nerf them, and you find out that the other characters are very good at neutralizing Kratos and Radec? Then you will wish they were stronger. People have beaten them and it's not that hard.
one2thr  +   648d ago
Yeah, I destroyed 3 Radecs(literally DESTROYED them), with Sweet Tooth... one lvl 3 super, with 5 lvl one supers "Shut, up and bleed"... As for kratos, I believe he has the fastest level up, but it seems as though Im the only person that rolls around him and evades him... It works, as long as no one else tries to attack you while doing it... But I havent stopped playing this beta, when or wherever wifi is available when i'm not home....
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smashcrashbash  +   648d ago
Exactly. People can beat them with Parappa too and most of his attacks are short ranged.And like I said I am certain that other characters can beat them. Nariko, Raiden and Dante move and slash very quickly plus there are others like Ratchet and Jak that have long ranged attacks too. I am not sure why the sudden jump to downplay PASBR for imbalance when SSB and MVC were full of unbalanced characters that were never fixed or nerfed and yet people played them with gusto non stop. Superbot already told us that if any character seems out of balance during the course of the game they will be monitoring them and adjusting them accordingly. They even have a system in place that records everything to see if a character is getting too many supers or winning too much. That's more then you can say about most fighting games.Most companies just shrug their shoulders when you complain that a character is too powerful or advantageous.
admiralvic  +   647d ago
@ Smashcrashbash

So far Superbot has said a lot of things and many of those things were proven to be false, so I don't see the company as having a lot of creditability. Also with the fact that the preorder numbers are low, constant whining from fans, it's hard to say if All Stars will sell enough for Sony to justify the support. (they can have whatever plan, but if Sony kills it... it means nothing to us in the end.)
newn4gguy  +   648d ago
So, this guy has no idea what he's doing? Why didn't he just write "I have no idea what I'm doing."?
profgerbik  +   648d ago
I love this game.

Main reason I enjoy it more than Smash Bros is simply because the characters, they appeal more to me and Playstation always has.

I wish I could afford it at launch but there are so many great Vita games coming out soon.

Maybe I can, I hope so.
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LiquifiedArt  +   648d ago
I just encountered a very worrying experience in the beta tonight.

2 people never actually loaded, so I got the chance to play a legitimate 1v1 match. Which was something I've wanted to do since the start.

In 1v1 matches you get to see exactly how the "TRUE SKILL-BASED" fighter behaves.

Sadly, it was a poor experience. The entire idea of "Special Kills Only" in a 1v1 match, completely breaks teh game. This is VERY VERY troubling. I will still pick the game up, but I am now almost in a state of shock.

I kind of feel like this game will fail, which really really upsets me. Sure it may sell resonably well, but if the core fighting game mechanics are not good, then the entire franchise will be tarnished by the "bone-head" move to do Super Only kills. I hope Omar Kendal wasn't the one who "Persuaded" the team for this dynanmic, it may be the worst choice a studio has made in recent memory.

A safer and (what the players wanted) bet, was a CLONE of SSB mechanics, using sony characters. With "SOME" tweaks.

I'm worried. (sigh)

Guess we will see what additional game modes there are.
yami930  +   648d ago
maybe they will make a specific mode for 1 vs 1 who knows, I can see it happening if people say they want it
skrug  +   648d ago
Just wondering why special kills only on 1v1 breaks the game?

lol if they did a clone of SSB everyone will be *itching that it's a ssb clone, 1000x more so than now.
admiralvic  +   647d ago
Most likely it is a fairly boring and simple fight.

2 people fight, either by running around or confronting one another.
Over time each fighter will get their super and will most likely get the kill because you only have 1 target.
Rinse and repeat till the match is over.

Now I wouldn't call it unenjoyable as I'm sure an extremely skilled person could completely dominate, but I'm sure it most likely lacks any charm or enjoyment. If I lack life, I have no motivation to run away and thus it's just a punching match till the match ends.
skrug  +   647d ago
Isn't that like most fighting games though?
Heisenberg_082  +   647d ago
^Yeah it all depends on who you play against and your own playstyle. Two skilled players will used a lot of denfense and dodging and blocking to prevent the other player from building their meter and killing them while making good combos. Two players new to the game will like your experience implied, just run at each other aimlessely hoping to build there meter. I had a 1 vs 1 a few nights ago and it was one of my favorite matches and really tested my strategy towards attacking my opponent. I hope this gives you some hope on 1vs1 cause I found it to be a lot of fun
SageDivinity  +   647d ago
There will be a specific 1v1 mode, in that mode I'm sure the rate at which the characters gain AP will be altered to better suit that game mode. Don't fret Superbot knows what their doing.
Xx-ADITYA-xX  +   647d ago
My impressions... SHIT... VERY SHIT
SageDivinity  +   647d ago
You impression on the game or this terrible article? If on the game, may I ask why you feel that way?
Xx-ADITYA-xX  +   646d ago
On the game to be honest, the game quality is just horrendous in my opinion. It feels more like a mini game, a game you would get on the PSP. The fighting mechanisms are just not good enough, it should have been more like a Tekken style fighting game with all the characters. You can make a game like this on LittleBigPlanet 2 and that would be 5 times better than this.
Heisenberg_082  +   647d ago
I wonder if these guys ever realized they weren't playing Smash Brothers but a unique game that has trade offs which make it better than Smash Bros in some respect and offer some disadvantages as well. People don't seem to understand that the special meter is essentially a reverse health bar with ever hit you suffer assisting your oppenent thus making defense extremely important and the prospect of just running into a fight and hoping you hit someone as detrimental as if there was a health bar. Also supers can be dodged with some skill as I have dodged many that seemed almost inevitable including Kratos level 3. Many people have not bothered to look at the flipside of these mechanics and just take them for face value with is kind of sad. It is also a beta that Superbot has been monitoring since the first betas were released and are constantly making changes to make them more enjoyable, I recently emailed Superbot about the lack of punch in hitting someone and they said that this complaint had been emailed to them before and that they had already fixed it for the full release.

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