Wii U To Sell 7 Million, Won't Replicate Wii Success - Pachter

NowGamer: Nintendo's Wii U will see an initial uptake surge, but will stuggle to maintain it, according to industry analyst Michael Pachter.

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GribbleGrunger2013d ago

If it has a ten year lifecycle (and it probably will) I can see no reason why it can't do 'better' than the Wii.

LX-General-Kaos2013d ago (Edited 2013d ago )

I think once again it will come down to price. The price of the Nintendo Wii U entertainment system itself, and the price of future competition.

If Nintendo comes with a smart business strategy combined with some more good luck, they have a chance to come close to the sales of the original Nintendo Wii entertainment system lifetime sales. I just have a feeling that all competing brands will shoot for a super affordable price point this time around. Making it difficult for anyone to successfully reach the 100 million mark due to stiff competition.

I don't think anyone is willing to sell their platform at a loss and will try for day one profit on hardware. For some, selling at a loss from day one will do "massive damage" to their financial situation. Nintendo likely taught everyone a valuable lesson this generation, that affordability moves units. Everyone will likely apply that rule this time around and make competition very stiff.

Rated E For Everyone

GribbleGrunger2012d ago (Edited 2012d ago )

Of course you can see what will happen: Nintendo will release the Wiiu and sell like hot cakes at Christmas. Then when next year hits it will settle down because there will still be three choices and the other two choices will be cheaper... this will lead to the inevitable 'Nintendo are doomed' articles we're so used to seeing. But these articles will be as short-sighted as ever and won't factor in the big titles that will eventually come and the usual price drop.

This is why Patcher is wrong and the articles will be wrong, just as they were with the 3DS

r1sh122012d ago

@LX-General-Kaos Could not have said it better my self. I think nintendo had a clear strategy from the day they released the wii.

They have a head start on sony and MS and they have applied a similar strategy again.
The prices are slightly higher than the xbox and PS3, and Im sure they will be bundling it with games for christmas, both Sony and Ms will suffer if Nintendo get this right

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Kingdom Come2012d ago

Because only roughly 2-3 Years into the Wii U's lifecycle (If even that long) there will be much superior technology on the market. Seriously, the Wii U is Nintendo catching up (Quality-Wise) to its oppositions Current-Gen consoles, and for each improvement it makes on Current-Gen, it falls short through its faults (No cross game chat etc.).

The Wii U will be completely reliant on the casual market after the Xbox 720 and PS4's release, and whilst thats suited them fine with the Wii, Microsoft and Sony have seriously hijacked a number of Nintendo's customers through the development of Kinect and Move.

WiiUalpha2012d ago

"Because only roughly 2-3 Years into the Wii U's lifecycle (If even that long) there will be much superior technology "

You can stop giving your opinion on tech because its painfully obvious from that part that you have no understanding of how it works... You'd have to be a real idiot and completely clueless to think in 2 years time sometime "much superior" which should be "far superior" but you cant comprehend tech so no reason to expect English to be any different for you.

Where in the future do you come from to know things that havent even been announced? Nintendo never said you couldnt do cross game chat so where did you pull that bit out from other than your backside?

Yes kid Sony is losing millions but they are going to launch a top of the lime console just for you. Sure they don't care about money or making a living, just giving some delusional fanboy with no clue all his hopes and dreams.

ninjabake2012d ago

You should play my lotto numbers since you have the crystal ball

jmc88882012d ago

Yeah, it won't be 'much superior'. That's the thing with 'next gen consoles'....neither Sony or Microsoft are going to be putting out 'next gen consoles'.

Wii U, 720, PS4 are all going to be 'this generation part 2' or 'this generation fully realize'.

None of them will have the raw power that is currently possible in a PC gaming rig, and these consoles won't be out for 1-2 1/2 years. We may get one next year, and one the year after. Maybe one in spring 2014 and the next one in fall 2014. Hard to say. Either way it won't have the raw power of a 2010 PC. It should be equal to 2010-2012 PC tech due to design advantages, but by then there will be a couple years better PC tech then there is now.

Last time around consoles were 1-3 years ahead of PC's. This time they are going to be 2-3 years behind PC's. That's a pretty big swing.

With all that said, even 2014 PC tech, think GTX 890, won't be next gen. It'll be getting there, but it shouldn't be 'next gen'.

The Wii U will obviously be the weakest of the three, and by a decent margin. But it won't be a huge difference. Wii U was severely weaker then 360/PS3, wasn't hd, didn't have much 3rd party support, didn't have a good online service, AND lacked a pro controller that among other things lacked proper camera control.

These things won't be the case. The Wii U WILL be HD. It has ALL of the things the ps4/720 will have, and in one way more with the gamepad screen. We just don't know about the online yet. That's really the only question mark.

Think of it this way. When you buy a Wii U, you'll be able to play 2011-12 version PC games with high textures and maybe some aspect of DX11 features. With PS4/720 you'll be able to play 2011-12 version PC games with ultra textures and definitely DX11 type features.

That's your 'much superior technology'. The ability to have a notch, maybe notch and half better textures and definitely having DX11 features compared to maybe or some of them on the Wii U.

That's really not much difference. So RAM, the ability to use that RAM, and DX11. That's it. (plus definite 3rd party support for the life, but I'm think the Wii U has already shown it's going to have it too)

Also with Microsoft, there are a couple of things that tend to lead one to think this early it's more assured this will be the case.

Microsoft doesn't want to push the boundaries because they want a RELIABLE product. Pushing the boundaries tech wise was one of the major reasons that there was a RROD and subsequently a ONE BILLION dollar fund set aside just to fix these things.

Microsoft also wants to keep the price of the unit low. They don't want to PS3 it on price. People forget that the value of the dollar against gold has dropped about 60-70 percent since the 360 launched. Meaning if they wanted to push it like they did last time, the console would probably cost 700-800 dollars. Not 350-500.

Couple all of that with the decision that they are going to pact a Kinect 2 in with every 720, with perhaps the Kinect 2 working in tandem with the hand thingy they recently showed off (highly likely imo....just like PS EYE with the move wand), and that right there will be 100 dollars worth of tech in the system.

So if you're trying for a 350-500 dollar launch, then you subtract the Kinect 2 costs and you're talking about a console that could have been sold without the Kinect for 250-400 dollars. That right there is not going to be a beast.

skyward2012d ago

Christmas will be good to Nintendo, but there's no compelling reason for the masses to get involved just yet

ninjabake2012d ago

Speak for yourself. There are a plethora of reasons for the masses to get involved right now. Whether they will or not is to be determined.

2012d ago
DivineAssault 2012d ago (Edited 2012d ago )

It will be ok i think.. Definately not as hot as the wii was but its a capable console... No one knows what the next PS/MS consoles will be like.. A quantum leap like 3rd party devs are hinting at, or just a bit more powerful than wii u balancing their investments into motion or whatever other type of gameplay aspect..

The wii u system itself isnt too expensive.. Considering that gamepad is roughly 1/2 of what your paying for.. It will all depend on software & network if they wish to appeal to ppl other than fans.. Theyre on the right track to me but need more support if im to buy it.. I really have no interest in the gamepad other than docking it while using the pro controller.. But thats me, im sure others are very excited about using it to play their games..

About a million or so day 1 in each region i think then a decent steady pace.. But when games like smash bros or mario Universe comes around, it will boom again..

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