Submitted by vortis 1137d ago | opinion piece

Why On-Disc DLC Is As Bad A Crime As Gamers Make It Out To Be

"There seems to be this sort of nonchalance about the way publishers have been handling the video game industry lately. It's devolved into a race to the bottom for who can churn out the most “broadly appealing” title while having as many monetary nickel and diming schemes as possible, to boost revenue and hopefully turn a profit. One of the biggest and more deplorable schemes happening right now is something called disc-locked content or on-disc DLC, a method that locks finished content behind a pay-wall on a full priced retail disc, requiring additional funds to unlock said content." (Industry, PS3, Resident Evil 6, Street Fighter x Tekken, Xbox 360)

xPhearR3dx  +   1137d ago
It some cases it is a big deal, other cases it's not if it turns out free. Either way, 90% of gamers always make it a big deal regardless of the outcome. If on disc DLC was added to reduce download size because they'd have to push the game back to put it on the disc and it comes out a week or so after the game, I don't mind. Plus, if a developer doesn't want to make a 2 disc game but can store some of the content on the disc, then release the rest shortly after launch for free. I don't see the big deal.
pixelsword  +   1136d ago
Not a big deal, but at the same time that's why I buy a lot of, if not most of my games used or in the bargain bin, and both for $20 or less.

If developers aren't for me, then I'm not for them. If they support me, I'll support them.

And I don't shed a tear if they don't sell millions or close down. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
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knifefight  +   1137d ago
Yeah, on-disc DLC is a jerk move. They already went to the work to make something and put it ON my disc. They ALREADY did the work. At least woth the downloadable stuff, it's generally being developed progressively. So I kind of understand that.

But when the work is already done and the content has already been copied to the disc, requiring nothing extra at all, on the company's end? Jeez.

Business is about trade. I trade my money for your work and your service or product. If your work is already done and you have already handed me your product -- which you gain NOTHING by me not having, withholding it is a little silly.
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csreynolds  +   1135d ago
I totally agree with you. In fact, you've summed it up perfectly; the work is done, it's on the disc, therefore consumers should not be made to pay more than the price of the disc to access it. Period. I remember a time when games followed an unlock paradigm. All content was on-disc, you bought the game, and you unlocked extras(game modes, levels, etc.) based on your progress and performance. It gave gamers incentive to play the games they buy to the full, and enriched their enjoyment.

Off-disc DLC (i.e. supplementary content made post-launch) I'll happily pay for if it appeals to me, but I refuse to buy on-disc content nowadays - and if anyone from Capcom is reading this, I refuse to buy any game you make that pulls the same BS Street Fighter X Tekken and RE6 pull. Bandwidth issues my ass... Give that excuse to Gearbox Software, who produce expansion packs exceeding 1GB in size for the Borderlands games. They'll laugh you out of their office.
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WeskerChildReborned  +   1137d ago
I just hate how last gen this stuff was free and now this gen,they try makin money off of it.
Summons75  +   1137d ago
Definitely. Although I think taking some thing that was suppose to be in the original release of the game but gets cut to later or even put out on day one as DLC is even more so a crime than on the dic DLC. LIke Bioware and their recent Omega DLC, it was suppose to be part of the game but they cut it just to make an extra buck later on.
Shadowstar  +   1137d ago
I have a question for people who are against DLC on disc, but not against DLC in general.

Let's say that for some game, some people are working on DLC during beta testing. The DLC isn't tested or ready, but some of the files are by the time the game can go for final certification testing (especially some of the larger content files). The content itself won't be fully tested until, let's say, a month after the game is out.

Would you prefer to have a larger download (with these untested files removed from the disc), or would you prefer those files to be on the disc, and if the most of them end up not needing fixes you get a smaller download size?
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vortis  +   1137d ago
It would be nice if they were upfront about it like Gearbox, who said what would and would not be ready.

What no one likes is some douche bag move like from Capcom where they lied about it and made excuses until they were caught with their pants down and then had to admit it for what it was.

Why not just be honest?

I understand your viewpoint but if the devs know people are finicky about these things, just be straight with the gamers. You got some hook files on the disc? Fine, but don't try to make it like no one was supposed to find out about the content.
Shadowstar  +   1137d ago
Oh, I'm not really trying to defend Capcom. I don't much like on-disc DLC myself. I just don't really see a great alternative in some cases.
csreynolds  +   1135d ago
Honestly? I'd prefer a company to man-up, say "the work's not done", and delay the DLC's/game's release instead of shipping discs with unfinished content they can charge for later. The bandwidth/download excuses are exactly that - cop-outs.
Shadowstar  +   1135d ago
That sounds like you just don't like the idea of DLC at all...? The game is done, and some of the DLC is partially done.
csreynolds  +   1134d ago
That's not what I'm saying at all. Read my reply to 'knifefight' above...

DLC stands for downloadable content. Therefore, none of it should be already on disc, because even if the developer's intentions ARE honourable gamers will interpret on-disc DLC as a con - and rightly so after the BS Crapcom's been pulling lately with Street Fighter X Tekken and RE6.

I'm not saying you have to agree with my point of view, as you are of course entitled to your opinion. However, on-disc DLC does not go down well with me and many others.
GreenRanger  +   1137d ago
DLC: Damn we Love Cash!
dcortz2027  +   1136d ago
LOL nice one bro, bubs! But yeah, if your against on-disc DLC then speak out by not purchasing the DLC and possibly even the game itself.
LOOK_AT_THIS_I  +   1136d ago
A 100kb unlock file on a dlc pack is horseshit. It's there and they chose to hold it hostage. Transformers fall of cybertron is in this category as well. 9.99 for an unlock of parts already there just held back.
It's rape of the consumer and for the most part fans of the franchises end up getting screwed because they support the devs who do this garbage.

As for dlc. Map packs/game modes that add to the game I could understand as those require a lot more work/testing therefore require a large download and I can justify that expense within reason. The day after the game releases no way, that's a cash grab along with the hat/color pallet/gun unlock is bs.
Zichu  +   1136d ago
I remember the first time i saw it. It was Bad Company 2 for me. The onslaught DLC was only like 100kb and I was confused as to why and then I finally learnt about it.

I had never heard of it before until then. I haven't supported this quick cash scheme since that happened.
Smashbro29  +   1136d ago
Man... who cares? Did you know some versions of Windows come with full software that you have to pay extra for? Let's all ban Windows too.
Drumsmasher  +   1136d ago
Because, you can't trade Windows into your local GameStop. Both mass effect 3 and Battlefield 3 were traded in because of all of this. Do you think I'm buying Battlefield 4 or the next mass effect? Hell, I don't think I'm buying windows 8 because Windows 7 is just fine, and I don't need that stupid "Metro" overlay. Trying to catch up to the casual crowd with that.
Sheep4life  +   1136d ago
Every gamer worth their salt should be against On- Disc DLC and season passes. With our wallets, we are telling developers that we want more games with less content and a cheesy multiplayer. Capcom, EA, and Activision are the worst.
Developers need to finish games and stop caving into the demands of the publishers. Stop offering in game rewards as DLC. Example: The colors for the Street Fighter characters could be earned through single player prowess through the story mode. When you go online and face other challengers, it shows your game skill, plus, it creates game replay-ability. Its up to the developers to find a way to make me replay their game instead of trading it in to Gamestop. Not these season passes for game DLC or a cut and paste job on a weak multiplayer for a once dominant single player game. If you want to be continually robbed of you hard earned cash, then buy their games, and support those developers. If Xbox live can get people to pay for online play, then every developer has a chance to rob us. Period. I could go on and on about how developers are robbing us, but I do have some games that I need to finish. Peace.
csreynolds  +   1135d ago
Very well said. Bubs.

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