Microsoft isn't the only company targeting Youtube partners
A few days it came to light that Microsoft had changed it’s Content Usage Policy, basically forbidding anybody to make money using footage of their games, but they aren't the only game company taking earning from Youtube partners...
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Dont get this dont streamers and youtube vids just promote,advertise a game with no costs to the publisher so what if those people make some money of that doesnt cost em a thing.
You know these companies. They have to be the only ones making any money and even though youtube partners aren't cashing in the big bucks with these vids, these companies think that it's money that THEY could be making. What I wonder is, if they want to make money off this stuff so bad, why don't the companies make their own youtube channel do these let's plays and walkthroughs themselves. Win/win if they do it that way. But you know, that would give them credit for being smart and we all know corporations are frickin' retarded.
The money they'd earn from doing so would be so miniscule it really wouldn't be worthwhile. It's not a particularly profitable endeavour for a business, 99% of yt partners have a day job.
They are going after a community of people who do what they do because they love it. It's such a shame because without the tiny compensation that they do get, they may not bother at all. Maybe they'll even grow to not love it quite so much...
Because you can't make a profit off of something that is not yours to begin with. MS games are branded ant patented, so that means that every cent their intellectual property creates has to go to the people who created it and own the patent for it. You can't advertise a MS product and expect to pocket the money the you get from it when you don't own the rights to it in the first place.
Surely publicity leading to game sells is more important than youtube money. This is like that pissy kid next door that had all thegreat toys but wouldnt let you play with them, you had to watch the kid play with them...
By this same logic, any editing software used to create videos should make the videos belong to the company that made the editing software. You purchase an ability to use it in any way you see fit, including games. It's not like a company can own the rights to how you play the game just because it happens to be uploaded to YouTube.
The sad thing is that video game footage isn't eligible for monetization on youtube. It really doesn't matter if you agree or disagree with what anyone says, if it's against the terms you agree to... where exactly are the rights you claim? I mean sure it sucks, but thats how it goes.
@Pushagree and admiralvic: That mentality could extend far beyond what you posted. By that logic a person could not go outside and film their day to day life because it would inevitably show clips of stores, car lots, etc.. with products they do not own the rights to and thus they wouldn't be allowed to make video blogs without censoring out the names of those places. It also means that all videos would have to center directly on the face, be shot with a one color background, and could in no way contain any logo unless it was self-made because then companies would state that the views on that video were from their product and they don't want anyone making money off that but themselves.
Game videos are completely legal under fair use laws, and the money being made is off of clicks and can be argued as such.
I didn't see anyone mention this, but it's against Youtubes terms to even make money off these videos.
"Your video is not eligible if it contains content that you didn't create or get permission from its creator to use. You need to be able to show written permission for the following video elements:
Audio: recorded music, live performances, cover songs, background music, etc. Visuals: images, logos, software, video game footage, etc. Any other content you don't own worldwide commercial usage rights to."
Thats straight from the monetization page. So if you're violating the terms to begin with, why should this matter in any way?
I got offered YT partner ages ago. I monetised all my videos, but after a while each just started dropping off. Activision actively started asking for videos to be removed, or for monetisation to be halted, EA did the same on the few BF3. Rockstar tried to do the same, but I contacted them and they were cool about it. The craziest thing about it, Im literally getting minuscules amount of money, its not even worth calling it pocket change. I pretty much gave up a long time ago, but its too unfair. The rights of these companies to claim copyright is a little too unfair, I created the 'content' and the events in which they occurred because I played their game like that. @ChronoJoe - Youre 100% right, when I last checked I had £3.61 or so after having like 3000+ hits with a few clicks on the ads, it just makes no sense for them to chase such small amounts of money.
THey are literally targeting their own communities, how on earth is that even allowed, let alone being very unethical?
I read the same thing somewhere. apparently you can get a license to use their stuff, but its only going to be the people with the big money who can afford to do it
The Red Vs Blue case is interesting. When they started off, they slowly got more attention, eventualy leading to Bungie contacting them. They said they were scared to contact back, as they were expecting a law suit with them or Microsoft.
When they contacted, Bungie pretty much said it was hilarious and they would love for it to be continued. So they are perfectly safe, and if hypothetically they weren't safe, there would be a huge backlash, affecting the Halo community. Though that is like saying what if hypothetically 2+2 isn't 4?
You knew it was only a matter if time. When random youtubers make more than the ones that make the game, you know dam well something is going to be done.
And no youtuber should bank on YouTube as their full income because they have no control like they would with their own website, so at any moment they can have their shit shutdown out if their control.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So, much for my You Tube entertainment. It was fun while it lasted. Hopefully the You Tube partners don't get affected too much. I enjoy watching Machinima Partners (The Creatures, Pbat, Sly Fox Hound, Spoon, etc.)
It's just like I expected gaming is just going to get worse, go downhill and people will welcome it with open arms. Just look at these fan boys not even caring about the gamer but instead cheer leading these big firms to make profit. Sad days for the gaming industry.
First they decide to release it a week before Call of Duty Black Ops 2 and now they this.(I can guarantee that these 2 titles will eat into each others sales)
How lame. These videos are made by the most devoted fans of the various franchises. I have purchased a lot of games based on watching a few chunks of playthroughs on youtube
Whats the deal with sony on this? do they allow gameplay on youtube of their own games? This is Disgraceful. Many people and clans like Optic will go out of business because of this.
everyone is targeting Youtube. Youtube is almost useless at this point because its so censored and so attacked by greedy companies now. Even television is targeting it because people rather watch a talking orange than their useless crap on TV....
Honestly where is the logic? "These guys are making a few dollars advertising our game! Lets take their rights away so they can ONLY advertise our game!" Really?
This happens to be something I enjoy watching and have been wanting to do for some time. Games are something I enjoy a heck of a lot more than anything else in the world, although I do have other hobbies it is the one place I know I can be artistically creative (outside of drawing and such)...making videos will/would have been something I'd enjoy immensely.
They own the game and everything to it except for how the person plays the game. Plus, most of the time it's for educational and commentary purposes and is why and how some people fall under fair use. That's why when people say game-play isn't allowed there are ways to make it so you can do so, but in a limited fashion.
Just showing the people and companies trying to control the content and showing their gluttony......lovely.
Leave people be; They are giving your company and your game recognition whether it be good or bad and are helping us also make more informed opinions on picking something up, and possibly they should be paid for doing so. And now I probably won't be watching videos and learning more about a game i'm interested in so, good luck getting my money now.
Honestly i don't see how companies could cash out on this youtube money being made. Is Microsoft going to hire commentators now? Because if they aren't, they just hurt advertisement for Halo4. On-top of the whole piracy scandal/leak.
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I guess I know who to blame for the nightmares, curse you, youtube!!
Literally, that game would not have sold as much as it did if it weren't for YouTube.
Game videos are completely legal under fair use laws, and the money being made is off of clicks and can be argued as such.
"Your video is not eligible if it contains content that you didn't create or get permission from its creator to use. You need to be able to show written permission for the following video elements:
Audio: recorded music, live performances, cover songs, background music, etc.
Visuals: images, logos, software, video game footage, etc.
Any other content you don't own worldwide commercial usage rights to."
Thats straight from the monetization page. So if you're violating the terms to begin with, why should this matter in any way?
I monetised all my videos, but after a while each just started dropping off.
Activision actively started asking for videos to be removed, or for monetisation to be halted, EA did the same on the few BF3.
Rockstar tried to do the same, but I contacted them and they were cool about it.
The craziest thing about it, Im literally getting minuscules amount of money, its not even worth calling it pocket change.
I pretty much gave up a long time ago, but its too unfair.
The rights of these companies to claim copyright is a little too unfair, I created the 'content' and the events in which they occurred because I played their game like that.
@ChronoJoe - Youre 100% right, when I last checked I had £3.61 or so after having like 3000+ hits with a few clicks on the ads, it just makes no sense for them to chase such small amounts of money.
THey are literally targeting their own communities, how on earth is that even allowed, let alone being very unethical?
Amazing what they will do for hits, however 'subtle' it is. Just waiting for someone to say "Sony does it too though!!" without reading the article.
Now THAT would be a spark.
When they contacted, Bungie pretty much said it was hilarious and they would love for it to be continued. So they are perfectly safe, and if hypothetically they weren't safe, there would be a huge backlash, affecting the Halo community. Though that is like saying what if hypothetically 2+2 isn't 4?
And no youtuber should bank on YouTube as their full income because they have no control like they would with their own website, so at any moment they can have their shit shutdown out if their control.
So, much for my You Tube entertainment.
It was fun while it lasted.
Hopefully the You Tube partners don't get affected too much.
I enjoy watching Machinima Partners (The Creatures, Pbat, Sly Fox Hound, Spoon, etc.)
Just look at these fan boys not even caring about the gamer but instead cheer leading these big firms to make profit.
Sad days for the gaming industry.
First they decide to release it a week before Call of Duty Black Ops 2 and now they this.(I can guarantee that these 2 titles will eat into each others sales)
What's next?
You should have just said the universe lol. Don't make anyone feel left out.
Honestly where is the logic? "These guys are making a few dollars advertising our game! Lets take their rights away so they can ONLY advertise our game!" Really?
In the very least, it isn't a smart business move, as they still aren't getting money lol.
The amount of games I have purchased from watching youtube videos agrees with your statement.
It getting harder to make an honest living.
This happens to be something I enjoy watching and have been wanting to do for some time. Games are something I enjoy a heck of a lot more than anything else in the world, although I do have other hobbies it is the one place I know I can be artistically creative (outside of drawing and such)...making videos will/would have been something I'd enjoy immensely.
They own the game and everything to it except for how the person plays the game. Plus, most of the time it's for educational and commentary purposes and is why and how some people fall under fair use. That's why when people say game-play isn't allowed there are ways to make it so you can do so, but in a limited fashion.
Just showing the people and companies trying to control the content and showing their gluttony......lovely.
Leave people be; They are giving your company and your game recognition whether it be good or bad and are helping us also make more informed opinions on picking something up, and possibly they should be paid for doing so. And now I probably won't be watching videos and learning more about a game i'm interested in so, good luck getting my money now.
The greed is being repair here.