IGN - Can the gloss of HD save it?
Sometimes, the illustrious Greg Miller – my boss on IGN PlayStation – says “old game is old,” and I often take issue with him when he does. There are plenty of bygone titles (like River Raid, for instance) that will always be awesome regardless of how much gaming has evolved. And my favorite game of all-time, Mega Man 3, is 22 years old. So Greg and I don’t really see eye to eye here.
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its a PS2 game! lol. save it...
2 its a console fps
Hmmn, the almost 11 year old Halo:CE begs to differ.
halo looks nice because the texture artist dis amazing work with flare bloom and procedurals
interior work however is quite lacking basic and well boring
It was really the only FPS I played until CoD4 came out Nov 2007. I got REALLY good at it too. Just before CoD4 came out, I went back to the PS2 BF2 just to get another taste of a more "realistic" style FPS, and I was no longer 1 kill for 15 deaths.....I had turned that ratio completely around. I credit the amazing but fun difficulty of Killzone 1 with that. It was SO hard to be good, that it made ALL other FPSs child's play in comparison.
This HD remaster fixes the few issues I had with the game, which was all the audio dropouts, framerate drops, and even freeze ups the game had durring the campaign on PS2 (oddly enough, it ran perfectly online).
The author of this preview does get it wrong on a couple things. The controls are mappable like he eventually said after bashing the default set-up. But what he obviously missed in the options was the toggle for turning zoom (and also crouch) between "hold" and "toggle". So you can make it exactly like CoD's controls if you please.
He's also right that there is absolutely no aim assists on Killzone 1 (neither did Killzone 2) which I find to be a good thing, and is probably the reason the game made me so much batter than I was at FPSs pre-killzone 1. That along with the huge kickback on weapons is what makes the controls seems so "finicky" as he put it. Killzone 2 took most of it out but it still had some, and no aim assists, which is why gamers bashed the controls imo....because they were so used to the comparitively EASY CoD4.
Another hit against the original controls is the sensitivity. My PS3 has BC, so I can still play my original disc, and just like I had to originally, the sensitivity needs to be turned down quite a bit to make up for there being no aim assist. This is likely still the case with the HD remaster.
Luckily this author didn't get his hands on a sniper rifle, he'd REALLY be crying about that I'm sure. Because if you move your character while zoomed in with it you come out of zoom unlike just about every other FPS which allows you to move all you want while zoomed in with sniper rifles.
Killzone 1 is THE # 1 hardest FPS of all time imo when it comes to actually being good at the game due to the kickback, muzzle drift, no aim assists, and enemies taking alot of bullets to drop (in MP).
I expect most reviews to bash the game just like this previewer did because of all these things. But all those things are why for me Killzone 1 is still my favorite console FPS ever. I'll miss the online, I'd gladly pay more to have it. But at least the offline version with split-screen is still in which is just as good since you don't have whole teams spamming 203s and pull-sniping like the original's online was plagued with.
Killzone was a decent game if you looked past the horrible framerate, bugs, glitches and dated look, you would notice some nice level design, but even then, the game was no classic so obviously it isn't gonna age well.
I haven't logged in here in ages and I just decided to login JUST to tell you that you win the internets for that post. I agree with everything you just said 1000%.
KZ1 is easily the most difficulty console-exclusive FPS ever created. The game didn't hold your hand at all. No aim-assist, no auto-aim, none of that crap. You had to learn how to aim and learn the eccentricities with each of the weapons in order to be good. The campaign was difficult enough with the relentless intelligent AI, but online was a completely different chapter.
Online was insane. I played that game online from Feb. 2005 up until about March. 2008. Why did I stop playing? I snapped my disc. Why'd I do that? Because I had just got my PS3 in Feb. 2008, and all I was playing on it was KZ1. I decided I had to destroy the disc just to actually PLAY the few PS3 games I had (CoD4 being one of them, which I quickly grew bored of since it was not only easy, but the so-called revolutionary things it brought didn't really blow my mind that much.)
That's kinda extreme but I did it. I bought a new KZ1 disc in early 2011 before they shut the PS2 online servers down for KZ1 just to go back with a few friends; still had about 20+ people playing it at all times.
But man, what a great game imo. Most people who cried about it only hated it because it didn't hold your hand, it wasn't a Halo clone, or they never even actually played it to begin with. I'll miss the 60 minute 'Park Terminal' Assault matches, the 'Core' Supply Drop matches, the Beachhead 60-minute Deathmatches, and the crazy-instantly-overheat-your- PS2 effects generated by the Slums map. Game only had 8 maps, but somehow the game remained fun for ages on end anyway.
Too bad they didn't include online with the HD remaster, though I'll probably pick this up anyway. The framerate drops and audio glitches were the ONLY issues I had with the game, besides the M203 spam in the multiplayer which never got patched, but damn... Still think it's the best in the series as well. Way better story than both of it's successors as well (Liberaton was actually pretty good, too.)
or story or gameplay or even ai.
i refer only to visual assets
textures geometry and liglighting
Old PC FPS don't age very well either, just so you know.
Perhaps Halo aged better, but it was a much better game to begin with. So was the first Riddick game (Butcher bay, remastered in a new engine as part of Dark Athena - it was actually better than the new game), and so has the first Half Life (as can be witnessed in the new Black Mesa release).
To age well you need a solid game to begin with. Guerrilla put much more effort into Killzone 2, and I believe it will fare better if it is also remastered sometime during the next gen.
But hey, if you're getting the series pack, whatever. One average game with 2 spectacular games, and you really don't have to play the first one if you don't want to and understand the story.
False, you can still crank up a 12 year old PC game to 1080p, or higher.
As long as I can play my old PC games at the default res of my monitor, they'll look fine.
An HD upgraded Killzone is still going to be the same game that people hated back when it released. Unless they went and actually remade the game, its going to have some issues.
and it will be the same game people loved when it was released.
And chunky said
"Killzone 1 never looked that good to begin with"
I couldn't disagree more. When PS2's lifecycle was all said and done, Killzone 1 was the best looking FPS on the console except for 1 other game, and that was BLACK.
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Sony was fully aware how their game was being pegged and they let it ride because they needed to generate the hype. Halo was on everyone's mouth and Sony didn't have an answer. It's not like they had people were coming out of the wood work to refute the claims either. Can you provide links to prove there was an effor to change that perception? Nope.
Nice try.
Exactly!
How do people expect something to change when it was terrible years ago?
If you put a fresh coat of wax on a car thats been in the junkyard for years, would one expect it to run better all of a sudden? No.
Killzone got hyped because it was the 1st proposed "Halo Killer". It never lived up to it.
However, I'm going to beat Killzone 1 again, just to remember what it was like to experience such an overrated game.
Not sure why people cant just let others enjoy what they want.
Obviously the HD upgrade is for those that enjoyed the game back then and/or what to try the game out now. I'm not sure why people feel the need claim that people supposedly hated the game, I wonder if it could be because they're a bit insecure about the games they like in comparison?
i believe the god of war HD collection had improved visuals as well as getting the frame rate bumped up to 60 since the extra power on the newer system would allow that.
i would imagine that any performance issues in the PS2 version would be ironed out on the HD version.
Greg is an idiot.. IGN needs to make Craig their poster child.
Why pay $15 for a game that cost $5? You guys are sheep. Isn't that the same as slapping lipstick on a pig?
second you want to compared genres ? then compare gears against uncharted....from story,graphics,sound and ofc story wich gears had zero to begin with,nominations-awards-goty uncharted OWNS gears either u like it or not admit it or not end of story.
as for the KZ halo killer its stupid ppl like you who goes to the net and post sh!ts like this
I was big into halo at the time as well, didn't buy into all the halo killer BS I just enjoyed it for what it was
ditto btw
I would love to play Halo but then again it would mean enriching M$ by buying an eXbox.
You just openly admitted to being an ignorant fanboy
I thought they said they fixed all the technical errors from the ps2 version. Do you guys think the version that was previewed will be the same build as when its released in 10 days?
Collection game reviews does get tired and stale after a while.
on of the most annoying parts were the frame rate drops. hopefully that will be fixed here. please be in 60FPS.
Half-Life 2 was good for the time; Killzone was "okay" for the time.
it came out in 2004 as well, killzone 2 looks worse than half life 2 on pc, part 1 looks like a pc game from 2000
WHO OVER THE AGE OF TWELVE CARES AT ALL ABOUT WHAT COLIN OR GREG AT IGN THINK ABOUT ANYTHING WHATSOEVER!
Apologies for my tone but these two are the worst. Or the second worst if you throw Arthur Gies and Anthony Gallegos into the mix.
I don't care how old it is, Those games are still seriously mental fun, I never got around to play Killzone 1.. But that will change when it's on the PSN Store.
When you play these older games, You MUST remember it came out a long time ago, & appreciate it for what it was back in the day, Even though I will be playing KZ1 for the first time, I will know that this game came out in the PS2 era, & Enjoy it regardless of it's original debut.
Being harsh towards these older games proves your a spoiled current-gen brat 'Cough' Greg 'Cough' & shouldn't be taken very seriously, especially when those of us that enjoy any game, be it from the Game-Boy era upto the PS2 era appreciate the Good times these games provided & STILL provide too this day.
Can't wait to give this game a spin! Articles like this annoy me, But force me to comment regardless.
Damn Internet :P
Greg says old game is old.
I say timeless game is timeless.
Some games will always be good, and if you refuse to play them because of age or graphics, than its your loss.
I know I'm not alone on this one where I must admit, Some of these older games just destroy most games we see today,
Like you said dude, Timeless game is Timeless.
It was all about the online which they omitted because sony or GG is too cheap. May as well make a socom 2 HD and keep it offline if they are gonna be like that//
I enjoyed KZ2 alot, although slowdown and such ruined mp for me.
KZ3 was better in many ways, but i prefered the dark grittyness of KZ2.
I would like to see KZ4 for PS4, But it needs to be 60fps.
KZ series to me have allways been overshadowed by better games..
It does fps good but nothing new!
KZ3 online knifing is second to none.the only game that is close is BF3.
I advise the author to not glue his eyes to his tv/monitor.
I liked the franchise to begin with because of this first quirky yet still enjoyable combat feel and highly atmospheric atmosphere, but it was basically a bit crap in lots of ways outside of technical failings. The sequels's much grander scale also exposed GG's lack of understanding for greatly realised characters or story telling