Activision Says Wii U Version of Black Ops 2 Not Natively 1080p

GotGame: The publisher confirmed that the game isn't natively in 1080p, but does feature Nuketown 2025.

[LX-General-Kaos]

A moderate megaton for some.

I was personally expecting this.. How about you?

[LOGICWINS]

Megaton? Doubt it.

If for the past couple of weeks you've been planning to spend $299 on a Wii U and an extra $50 for Black Ops 2, something as trivial as a lack of native 1080p isn't going to stop you.

EDIT:

LOL, 7 people approved this in like ten seconds. Hilarious how serious this is for some people.

[LX-General-Kaos]

That's why I said for some.

[LOGICWINS]

^^And I'm agreeing with you. Those few people that do take it seriously are hilarious.

[decrypt]

Thats fine.

Console gamers.. Dont care about graphics.

Though its funny they still cant do what PC has been doing since 1998 gaming in 1080p lol.

[jsslifelike]

Won't it just be upscaled 560p again like every console, every year? This is hardly news...

[Gridloc]

@decrypt
1080p in 1998? You sure about that?

[Gridloc]

@decrypt
1080p in 1998? Don't think so...

[SkullBlade169]

If it's not native 1080p then what is the point of getting the Wii-U version?

Just save money and get it on a PS3 or 360...

[ShinMaster]

If it can't even do a current gen game in 1080p natively!

Another reason -> for me <- to wait for the PS4/X720.

[nukeitall]

@SkullBlade169:

It depends on what Nintendo Network has to offer, but as far as I can tell unless the upgrade is *really* significant, I wouldn't bother.

I would just stick to XBL as it has the most active community around. A real community likely exceeds most features anyhow.

To keep it in perspective though, a Wii U doesn't cost much more than a PS3 or Xbox 360 so I wouldn't expect a lot more either especially the costly second screen controller thing a ma jigg.

[GraveLord]

I already knew it wasn't native 1080p.
It is upscaled just like the PS3/360 version.

Sorry Nintenbots. You can't believe everything you read, especially when its too good to be true. I mean they couldn't even get that Wii U Mario game to run in 1080p(or didn't have time, we don't know yet)

[herbs]

It most likely still has higher resolution textures than other console versions.

[HammadTheBeast]

@Herbs
Nope. Stop lying to yourselves without proof. Nothing is "likely".

[kB0]

@herbs

Assuming again leads to rumours like 1080p, Stop stating opinion as fact.

We'll wait and see.

Everyone should already know that the Wii.U has a a$$ ton of head room compared to the ps3 and 360 interms of ram and GPU, the problem is how lazy devs are.

The only thing that I think we can still give to the previous consoles is PS3 and it's ridiculous powerful CPU and 360 and it's 8 MB of EDram....thats it. THis is when compared to the Wii.U not to each other.

And even with that, if I'm not mistaken the WiiU might even have eDram on the GPU, sooooo yeah we'll have to see!

I def think that its more powerful than both, but for a 7 year gap (nearly) it's not nearly the improvement we would've wanted to see.

PS3 vs PS2 was insane difference (with exception of God of War 2 which looked sooooo next gen for its time)

WiiU vs Wii is exactly like the same as going from PS2 to PS3...

Been there done that...in terms of graphics so far!

Time will tell, I personally can't wait to get my hands on Super smash, luigi mansion 3 ;), mario bros U and Zombie U (maybe paper MARIO!:D) but this might have to wait until Xmas 2013 for me, after the 3Ds launch I don't mind patience!

[herbs]

Why am I being accused of stating opinions as facts, I used the word likely. Don't get so uptight people this game will look great regardless. Im more excited about being able to use a variety of control methods. I actually enjoy FPS's with the wiimote maybe this will support motion+

[_LarZen_]

Personaly I did not read it, Activision said it on the Wii U press conference. And they said it again in gameplay interviews later.

Most of them is probably on Youtube.

Kinda disapointing when developers formulate it like they did and it shows they jus either pulled one or dont know the difference between native or upscaled....

[jsslifelike]

@GraveLord

Why would you even want a Mario game running at vanilla 1080p anyway? I'd much rather have 720p with MSAA and V-Sync, etc. That's basically how Uncharted: Drake's Fortune visually bested almost everything that came before it's time... IN 720P.

[ProjectVulcan]

The devs can't be too lazy, they have a PC version there that runs fine on better hardware. Wii U just obviously aint that much faster than PS3 and 360.

http://www.legionhardware.c...

Even a 550Ti can do 1920 x 1200 (better than 1080p) and 4x AA with well over 60FPS average on Black ops. Don't expect the sequel to be any more demanding. Thats like a cheapo $110/£80 graphics card...

Something middle range like a 560ti can do 2560 x 1600 comfortably!

[raytraceme]

Honestly i wouldnt be surprised if microsoft bullied activision to make the wii u version graphically on par with the xbox version. We all know thats how MS works and proof was already given regarding the parity clause MS has with game publishers.

[LX-General-Kaos]

I doubt Microsoft had anything to do with cods resolution.

[jetlian]

thats for release only. They cant control how the game looks on the platform

http://www.escapistmagazine...

Activision just doesnt want to do it. system could easily do native 1080p

this whole thing started when treyarch said FULL HD and everyone thought they ment 1080p

[wastedcells]

Ya it's just a port of the ps3/360 game, like every other multi platform game will be.

[Beastforlifenoob]

If that makes you sleep better at night. SURE!

[DigitalAnalog]

Rendering at 1280x1080p. At best it would be 720p native, I REALLY don't see why this cannot be achieved with this system.

[Bladesfist]

there is no such thing as 1280x1080p. 1080p is an aspect ratio of 1920 x 1080.

[SilentNegotiator]

Riiiiiight. Because a principled publisher like Activision wouldn't play up THAT angle if they could, instead of admitting to it not being 1080p.

/s

[fossilfern]

@bladefist, I'm sorry but DigitalAnalogue is right. GT5 does run at 1280x1080:

"By the time GT5 Prologue was released, Polyphony was well on the way to hammering down the specifics of the tech: the 1280x1080 target resolution we see in the final game was confirmed, and the performance of the game was pretty much on par with what we see today. "

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

The frame buffer is at 1280x1080 and its up scaled to 1920x1080

[kB0]

@Bladefist

There is absolutely a 1280x1080p, 1080p states the render of 1080 pixels in height.

FHD is 1920x1080 but there are plenty of variations of 1080p which can be customly scaled by developers.

Just because the market only introduces you to 720p, 900p and 1080p as they are standard doesn't mean that that's all there is.

For example my old tv was 720p, but it's actual resolution was 1272 by like 734 (something like that.

:)

[Metfanant]

@kB0

there is no such thing as 1280x1080p...

there IS a resolution that is 1280x1080...however 1080p is 1920x1080...

there is no such thing as a "variation" of 1080p...there is 1080p and other resolutions...

your old TV was NOT a 720p TV...it was a 1272x734 TV that was marketed as a 720p TV because the manufacturer used an odd ball resolution screen (probably to cut costs)

720p = 1280x720 all day, every day no discussions about it...

1080p = 1920x1280 ditto...

[edgeofsins]

@metfanant

P just means it is progressive. i means interlaced. There is 1080p and 1080i. The industry standard for 1080p is normally 1920x1080. 1080p doesn't mean it is always 1920x1080. The p stands for progressive. There is a variation of 1080p. A LOT of variations. Don't start stating things as fact when you only follow the basics of the industry.

[kB0]

@metfanant

1080p means 1080 pixels in progressive scan it's not God Damn set resolution, I can't believe how oblivious you can be.

Edit: it seems that edgeofsins beat me to the punch:)

It seems that a lot of posters are letting personal feelings come into play and completely neglect logic.

Industry Standard has changed, we don't even use HD to refer to 1080p alone anymore. We statd, SD, QHD, FHD etc.

[Metfanant]

@edgeofsins
@kB0

NO...look at the standards set forth by industry groups like DIGTALEUROPE...which REQUIRES for a Television to be marketed as HD Ready 1080p that it must have a MINIMUM resolution of 1920x1080...nothing lower even if it meets the 1080 vertical resolution...

this is industry standard...period...

the "variations" of 1080p are frame rate differences

[kB0]

Holy crap...frame rate difference?

Rest In Piece metfant Intelligence.

Frame rate has 0 to do with resolution and more to do with the amount of HZ tv has. That doesn't mean that the tv will actually operate at those frame rates, it merely describes that it can operate at those frame rates.

Law vs technology is an abmigous case. The fact that I can make 3G be a minimum of 3 MB/s is the Countries' problem, the will obviously dumb it down to something where majority of ppl will understand.

Now to intellects, and the added bonus of actually knowing the technology, our minds can conceive more that 1 + 1 = 2.

In other words short and simple for the public, heavy and complex in real life. The fact that you can actually square root a negative number and get an imaginary isn't accept when dealing with purchases or real life, but the fact of the matter is that it is there.

Same here, there are resolutions of 1280x1080, Gran Turimo 5 is a good example and so is Wipeout HD, as they both run at that resolution.

It's still HD, but it's not FHD (Full HD)...they still run at 1080p which means 1080 pixels in progressive scan.

Now if you want to be just some common idiot on the street and can't handle the truth and or don't want to go out of your way to understand it...well I'm sorry that is your problem. Just because you don't believe something is true doesn't make it wrong.

Laptops are marketed at HD but actually 720p, which HD we have been led to believe is 1080p. Now the industry added F-HD to create another class and justify HD.

Please don't take laws and rules and argue Technology with them, it doesn't make sense at all.

@Bladefist, no 1080p IS NOT and aspect, it merely follows the aspect:). Meaning 16 is divisible in 1920 and 9 is divisible in 1080. They have a lot to do with each other but it's incorrect to think that 1080p is an aspect.

1920x1080 is an aspect, but 1080p isn't. Just like all Jacuzzi are hot tubs but not all hot tubs are Jacuzzis:) 1920x1080 fits the 16:9 aspect and is a resolution, 1080p is an undefined resolution but isn't an aspect because we don't know the width. (This is Sub High School math)

Common aspect ratios are 4:3, 16:9 and 16:10. Software, movies and games don't need to follow those ratios, tell me what aspect COD's resolution fits? It's still a progressive Scan game but its 644p (or w.e)

The same goes with games that are 1024x720. It's still 720p, since 720 IS THE FUCKING HEIGHT IN PIXELS which is outputted in progressive scan.

:)

Google something before you post, just because you got your facts at Best Buy or laws/rule books doesn't mean you know technology and how it works.

[Metfanant]

@kB0

again NO..

yes...the variations of 1080p come down to framerate differences...because the industry accepted definition of "1080p" is 1920x1080 progressive...just like "1080i" is 1920x1080 interlaced and so forth...

like i said in my post...yes there are other resolutions that have a vertical resolution of 1080 pixels...Gran Turismo 5 is a perfect example like you said...but it is NOT natively 1080p..because it is not 1920x1080...

i said NOTHING about laws in my post..nothing at all...simply that the body in charge of certifying a television set (in all of Europe) as 1080p requires that the set meet a minimum of 1920x1080...that is a FACT...to simply be "HD Ready" you must meet a vertical resolution of 720 pixels or higher...that is why there are oddball sets labled as "720p" when they are often 768p in fact...

laptops that are 720p but marketed as HD are pefectly fine...because 1280x720p is an industry accepted HD resolution...in reality anything above 1280x720 is considered HD..

i think you need to practice what you preach and use Google yourself...you might learn something...

its actually comical how wrong you are...i could go for days about resolutions...youre wrong...

[SilentNegotiator]

" I was personally expecting this.. How about you? "

Only since day 1 of the Wii U's announcement, is all. When they danced around Geoff asking them about "NATIVE 1080p", I knew they were doing what they did with Wii in terms of power (barely more powerful than last gen competitors).

But as for more recent suggestions...WiiUDaily was the only group "confirming" native 1080p titles without names, quotes, or 1080p screens, other than 1080p 2D/2.5D platformers and Wii ports.

[Gamer1982]

The truth is strating to come out that the wiiU too wont be playing the big AAA titles at 1080p either. Its a ripoff when the games will be no better than a ps3 or 360 which is less than half the price.

[GuyManDude]

"...less than half the price."

1/2 of the Wii U price tage = $150/$175

Cheapest Xbox 360: $200

Cheapest Playstation 3: $250

Something doesn't add up here.

[Beastforlifenoob]

"Something doesn't add up here."
Yeah you forgot the 150$ controller

[Amplitude]

Im sorry it's 2012. 1080p should be mandatory, and higher resolutions should be optional.
This is not right.

[FlairSomewhere]

not everyone has a 1080 p capable television. mine is most likely 736 p, seeing as it's an off brand. sure when you multiply 1920x1080 and 1280x720, 1080 p has 2.25 times as many pixels, which is an actual great deal of work to do. i'm not sure if it was laziness on the developer's part, but when your current console derivatives aren't displaying 720 p native, unless the money is being put there way from up top or from Nintendo, 1080 p native may not be worth their time just yet. it wouldn't be a selling point for me, in this case, my tv doesn't even support 1080p, ha.

[Ramon3MR]

Would've been nice I suppose, but honestly, I played the game earlier this week and it looked really good and ran as smooth as butter (framerate).

[HammadTheBeast]

Cool, can I be invited to the secret, magical place where they've shown the WiiU version played?

[ronin4life]

Wasn't it at the new York comic con?

Monster hunter was. A lot of wiiu stuff was actually.

[live2play]

"without proof nothing is likely"
so.... you believe the story of some guy that said activision emailed him... but showed no proof...

(im not saying its not true or is true... just pointing out your flawed logic)

[omarzy]

That sucks.

[Benjamminkno]

It'll still be the best version, HANDS DOWN!!

[omarzy]

No question about that. Map, using kill streaks, and playing it all on the gamepad, etc made the other versions far inferior, but this is still a downer.

[HammadTheBeast]

Why pay $300+ for a slightly better version.

[omarzy]

@HammadTheOne. People are not buying the Wii U for CoD. For the people that are already getting a Wii U, you may as well just pick up the better Wii U version since it will cost the same as the others whenever you buy it.

[SilentNegotiator]

"Map, using kill streaks, and playing it all on the gamepad, etc made the other versions far inferior"

Sooo.....clicking on the screen instead of the much quicker motion of moving your thumb to the D-pad for kill streaks, looking AWAY from the screen to see the map, and playing on a tiny screen so that....your dad can watch baseball?...

...makes the other versions "far inferior"?

LOL

[SilentNegotiator]

[accidental double post]

[PopRocks359]

@SilentNegotiator

No, but the added control schemes inherently gives the Wii U version more options. Just because you don't care for it doesn't mean others won't.

[bangshi]

Oh, indeed SilentNegotiator.

It does make me laugh when people say this Game Pad device will be so amazing with all the new gameplay experiences it will provide.

A Game Pad is exactly what is _not_ needed for most types of games.

You cannot look away from the screen for a split second in COD without getting shot at, so why do people think it will be handy to look down and see the map or use their kill streak?

Just look at the trash example they showed for ZombiU. Essentially pausing the game to then scan the room with some kind of thermal/x-ray type vision.

You mean to say that couldn't be done before now, by, oh I dunno - pressing a button?

[MasterCratosKong66]

Interesting point for Cod because I'm sure there are a number of gamers who feel the same way because it is easier. I think there are people who would enjoy a reason to actually feel pressured while playing though because I assume it is not more realistic to say that in an actually firefight you would never have to look away to pull out the computer that you use to call a killstreak. Luckily there is the pro controller so you have both options.

As for Zombie U I disagree. In the video they didn't essentially pause the game to scan because the zombies kept attacking like with any aspect of that game where the gamepad is used. It puts some pressure and thrill into a situation where you actually need look away to get something you need which is realistic and is a quality that any horror shooter like that should strive for. I mean a zombie game without thrill is basically a cabela's hunting game. Now it's not for everyone of course but
if you don't want it the traditional type of controller isn't going anywhere.

[bangshi]

That is a fair comment about ZombiU, when I said paused I kind of more meant you're no longer playing the 'actual' game, you're taking time out from looking at the big screen to look at a small screen.

I fail to see the difference.

To be something useful it needs to compliment what is on the big screen, not offer an alternative viewing output.

[Benjamminkno]

If you can use the gamepad without the TV, that means you have another window to see what the TV can not. Imagine running straight, and looking side to side by simply moving your hands side to side while still looking straight on the screen. It's light enough to multi-task, changing weapons, and is much faster to drop mortars by tapping on a screen than it is to move an anologue stick across the TV. Maybe it's just that you gamepad naysayers lack imagination, that is until your big bad multi-billion dollar corporations emulate what innovation is supposed to look like. I don't know about everyone else, but the Ps360 controllers are outdated by at least 10 years. Don't worry, they'll try to come up with something that doesn't require to sell their systems at a loss.

[imXify]

Old news but confirmed.

[Blastoise]

http://n4g.com/news/1088773...

What was that all about then?

Personally I don't care too much either way, I'll be buying it on PS3 and nobody who plays CoD plays it for the graphics.

[CBaoth]

some moron who doesn't understand that NATIVE 1920x1080p resolution isn't the same as"FullHD". He then went on to champion his cause by making grand assumptions while not understanding the basic terminology invented by TV manufacturers.

The WiiU version will still be the best console version. PC>WiiU>360>PS3.

"nobody who plays CoD plays it for the graphics". Absolutely true.

[TheUndertaker85]

"not understanding the basic terminology invented by TV manufacturers."

This is your number one problem. Do you really believe all game developers use the same terminology as TV manufacturers? Most do not.

Just the same as every year too the console version will be coded mainly around the 360 as it is lead platform for CoD.

[Beastforlifenoob]

Can I get your time machine CBOATH?

[PopRocks359]

'Today, Activision confirmed to us via email that “The game is not natively 1080p”, which of course means that it’s the Wii U that will be able to upconvert it, since the system supports the format.'

They couldn't have bothered to show a scan of the email or perhaps a link to a source statement of some kind? I'm not trying to discredit this news, but after believing one too many rumors I try to authenticate my news as best as I can.

[Ramon3MR]

There is no link to a source (actually, I'm the source) ...their PR team emailed me today after I asked if the game was natively in 1080p and they said, and I quote:

"Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. The game is not natively 1080p. As for Nuketown, a re-imagined version comes with the game as a pre-order bonus."

This is not a rumor and I don't need to "scan" my email. I played the game at a Nintendo event on Wednesday and met w/Activision reps there. They said they'd get back to me on the question and that was the response.

This is the preview I wrote from the event for Black Ops 2 - http://gotgame.com/2012/10/...

[dark-hollow]

But where is your source?
Sorry am not implying that you are lying but you can't just post some news without any valid sources.

You can scan the mail but blur your email adress at least.

[AO1JMM]

Exactly what I am saying. Show us the email then I will believe it.

@Ramon3MR, So we are to just trust what you post?

NEWSFLASH!

I got an email from Activision and they say it is running at "FULL HD".

/s

[ChickeyCantor]

I just got an Email from Nintendo.
I have 4 weeks left to live.

[ElectricKaibutsu]

Ramon sent me a screen shot of the email. Seems legit.

Well what the heck does full 1080p mean if it doesn't mean full 1080p? I wouldn't have cared except Activision already claimed it was. Why lie? Or at least why word their statement in a way that would be misunderstood?

[ElectricKaibutsu]

I don't know why people would disagree with someone for saying news sites should cite their sources. I'm like 89% expecting this article to be accurate, but I'm going to wait for other news sites to confirm.

[live2play]

so you dont know why they should cite sources...

...yet you are 89% its true..
cant you see THATS why they want an actual source?
to be 100% sure instead...?

and waiting on OTHER sites to have the same story DOES NOT help at all...why? i think you are smart enough to figure it out

[ElectricKaibutsu]

I believe we said the same thing with different words. PopRocks359 said the website should have cited their source and as of right now he/she has seven disagrees. I was asking why someone would click disagree. Sorry if my wording was confusing.

[ShinMaster]

If Nintendo themselves can't do it.... well.... you get the clue.

[Benjamminkno]

The question is, why waste time doing full HD, on a 2D game that relies on gameplay to sell? I think we're continually missing the point here, not surprisingly.

[ShinMaster]

It should be easier to achieve 1080p with a side-scrolling game. That is no excuse.

[AO1JMM]

Doesn't really matter to me.

Sounds more like GOTGAME says it doesn't run at 1080P to me. Where is this email?

@Ramon3MR,

Seriously???? Can you post a smaller pic because I do not think that 1 is small enough.

[Shok]

I honestly don't care either way, because a bad looking game will still look bad in 1080p. I've never cared for this situation anyway.

BUT, I would like a picture of that e-mail. They said Activision e-mailed them but they didn't show a snippet of said e-mail.

But again, I could care less either way. It's COD lol.

[YoungPlex]

Dude, I was just saying the same thing to myself. For all we know this is some fan-boy attempt to attack Wii U version of COD. I seen the "Full HD" image/sticker that Activation is promoting. I honestly think that this is fake!

[fourtwenty2009]

LOL, it can't run NSMBU in 1080p what are the chances of COD in 1080p.

Nintendo, between friends, this is NOT what a "NEXT GEN" -- as in the GENERATION AFTER THE LAST looks like. Unless Nintendo just means being one generation behind everyone else.

[megamanX2]

hey dumb ass nintendo confirmed nsmbu is in 1080 lol.

[Norrison]

Trying too hard to downplay Wii U when it's still going to be the best console version.

Also stop talking about NEXT GEN BS. You don't know if it will improve a lot or just a little bit.

[christheredhead]

Graphics have nothing to do with the definition and rotation into next gen. Whether you agree or not is trivial, but its still a next gen system.

[Neonridr]

Something to ponder about.. It's interesting how they didn't say anything other than it's not 1080p natively. Makes you wonder will it still be a higher native resolution than the PS360. You would think if it was going to be the same resolution they may have answered it saying that all 3 console games would be the same.

While I am disappointed it didn't get the 1080p, again it doesn't surprise me because it was built for the 360 and ported over. But it will be interesting to see if they made any graphical enhancements to the Wii U version.

And bonus for the Nuketown map.

[Oldman100]

Then it better be at least native 720p. Anything less would be a major disappointment. I'm also expecting it to be the first ever console version to run at a locked 60fps throughout.

[iNFAMOUZ1]

developers lazyness, im sure it could support native 1080p.

[fourtwenty2009]

Don't excuse cheap hardware.

Nintendo is going the Apple route. Small and slow evolution of hardware they're not revolutionizing gaming here, they're taking what's cheap and selling it at a profit. Nintendo does not lose money on hardware, customers do. :P

[Ramon3MR]

Here...I added a screen grab of the email to my imgur account:

Here's the link - http://i.imgur.com/3phpd.jp...

[stragomccloud]

I can't read it. Resolution is too low.

[dark-hollow]

Its a subtle hint that the Wii u version is sub hd.

[deafdani]

You need to get your eyes checked, then. I can read it just fine. o___0

[ChickeyCantor]

They are not terrible, you're just doing a sloppy job at bringing " news ".

Also there are image hosting websites like imgur or whatever.

[stragomccloud]

I think that Full HD for Activision's Call of Duty just means native 720p. lol

[Neonridr]

Native 720p would still be a step up from the PS360 versions.. What was Black Ops on PS3 like 960x544 or something?

[stragomccloud]

Pretty much.

[InTheLab]

All this means is that Treyarch and Activision make some of the worst ports in the industry.

[fourtwenty2009]

Omg I can't wait until PS4/X720 come along and introduce Nintendo to what a REAL next gen console looks like. Because honestly, this isn't it.

[r21]

Ok so i hear 2 games not 1080p on wii u :I Well as long as its 720p, its cool IMO

[yewles1]

Called it, Full HD by Activision = full 1280 x 720, as opposed to PS3/360's 880 x 720.

[YoungPlex]

Why snip the email and not show it in its completion... Believe what you want, I'll wait until official confirmation from Activision!

Man, I'm so sick of back and forth rumors about Wii U this and Wii U that, give the thing a chance to come out to properly judge it...

[ronin4life]

I don't know what the source is(might be this site) but Nintendo everything is reporting the same thing.

The game can be upscaled, but is not native 1080p.

http://nintendoeverything.c...

[WeskerChildReborned]

Ouch...

[Megaton]

A 2012 console should be able to render anything in native 1080p.

[2pacalypsenow]

2012 and still no 1080p? will wait for ps4 :-)

[shutUpAndTakeMyMoney]

lol 1080p is getting old now..
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

higher!!
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[megamanX2]

"Activision Says Wii U Version of Black Ops 2 Not Natively 1080p"

still light years ahead of the others.

[taquito]

not even sure about the accuracy of this article, but...

1024x600 is the native res of ALL COD titles on ps3/360

so even 1280x720 would be a huge improvement, also, if the wii u version does proper aa, unlike ps3/360, that would be a huge plus

[Norrison]

This^
Also why is there an argument about graphics going on here? I thought console gamers only cared about "gameplay and good story".

[SAE]

Now you understand what i meant in the last time i talked to you ?. This article is the perfect example to prove what i said , it all depends on developers , not the tech , the most used tech will get the attention which is console not pc or even wii u...

We will see the power of the pc when next generation consoles released , Just imagine a game like GT5 or the last of us or forza or gta or even the multi platform in next generation >.< ...

Developers will use the same policy that the pc have right now when next generation consoles released , most of the time will improve less then 25% then the console version , but that will be a good thing not like now ^^...

[cyhm3112]

I am really amazed so many stupid people automatically assume Wii U will be more powerful than ps360, really funny.

[Shok]

It's a 2012 console vs. 2005-2006 consoles.

It's common sense that it's stronger.

The Wii may have been underpowered but even the Wii was still stronger than the original Xbox.

Don't know why people don't know this.

[HappyWithOneBubble]

Wii U won't be that stronger like you think. Of course Nintendo will say it is to make you believe it is.

[bubblebeam]

"The Wii may have been underpowered but even the Wii was still stronger than the original Xbox."

Xbox: 733 mhz (CPU) 233 mhz (GPU) 64mb memory.
Wii: 729 mhz (CPU) 243 mhz (GPU) 64mb memory.

Very close to each other. I still think that no game on Wii looks better than Halo 2 or Doom 3 on Xbox, but that could be because of lack of developer support (at least in 1st party trying to push hardware).

Monster Hunter on Wii looks quite nice, as does Resident evil 4, as it also did on gamecube and ps2.

[Shok]

Looking at raw numbers for CPU, yes it would APPEAR that they are on-par but hertz-for-hertz, the Broadway does more work than the Xbox's CPU. It's a superior architecture.

The Wii has 2 sets of RAM. A 88MB pool and a 64MB GDDR3 pool. Not to mention it's RAM is faster.

The Xbox has an overall performance of 116 million polygons per second. The Wii has 500 million polygons per second.

Name me any game on the Xbox that looks better than Super Mario Galaxy 1 & 2 or Metroid Prime 3. Or Monster Hunter 3.

[jetlian]

shok where the heck you getting your facts from? lol 360 has 500 million polygons not the wii.

Ninja gaiden ,conker,forza. xbox 1 had some 720p games wii doesnt do any 720p. Xbox1 is more powerful but art style can make up for some things

[taquito]

@cyhm

there is no assuming needed, the wii u is VASTLY more powerful than ps3/360

it has 2 gb of ram, ps3/360 only have 1/2 gb split over games and os operation, it has a much better gpu, and the cpu is generations beyond the 2004-2005 tech in 360/ps3

the wii u launch titles will be a bit smoother, a bit higher res and perform a bit better than ps3/360 titles, but remember, these are launch titles

launch ps3/360 titles were barely better looking than xbox1/ps2 titles, just slightly better resolutions and textures.

http://screenshots.teamxbox...

thats a 360 launch title, looks like a ps2/xbox1 game to me

[Picture_Dancer]

LOL Wii supposed to be more powerful than PS2 and Xbox but still 99% of games looks much worse than games on PS2/xbox.

[PopRocks359]

@Picture_Dancer

I find it hilarious that idiotic trolls like yourself only seem to show up when negative news about the Wii U is posted. The moment there's good news about the specs, you morons are no where to be found.

[Gamer-Z]

last gen game coming to a next gen console

[SAE]

I don't consider wii u as a next generation console because even call of duty will not have noticeable improvements , only a little better colors and frame rate than the other consoles -.- ...

Too make us believe that is to make call of duty multiplayer bigger , like 60 players , huge maps and stuff like that , 60 fps , better performance , that's how to make use advantage of the console , not colors and better resolution >.< ...

[christheredhead]

Activision says Wiiu version of Black Ops 2 not natively 1080p.
-I'm still most definitely buying the system.

Why would the resolution of COD have any sway on my decision?

[Schawk]

Im still gettin the wiiU version as it will be the superior version, and yea i want to smell new hardware heating up i dont wanna play this on Last Gen hardware like the ps3
my body is ready Nintendo

[FinalomegaS]

i think 1080p multiplat will be rare as the lead system isnt the wiiu.its not like they used the wiiu as lead console for coding.

or

Activision is just lazy and figure the PR wording will work fine for the fans.

or

wiiu cant handle cod in naitive 1080p

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all i can say is that when the wiiu is released, Lensoftruth will be on fire lol

[corrus]

HAHAHAHA you had believed on that Nintendo fanboy's video with Borderlands fools

[PopRocks359]

Are you talking about ReviewTechUSA? How the hell is he a Nintendo fanboy? He trashed Nintendo multiple times, including in his E3 response video.

[jay2]

HAHAHAHA omg! don't waist £300 on a wii u, ever get the other 2, PS3/360 or wait for their big brothers that'll pump games out at 1080, 60fps. This thing can't even do mario u or whatever ever it's stupid name is.

[bangshi]

HA effing HA!

And there we were. The minority, posting on the other article saying not to get carried away, it might likely be upscaled to 1080p and there the majority were, all the Nintendo fan boys saying no it is native and disagreeing to all of our minority comments.

And what happens? As usual the down voted comments end up being correct.

[Schawk]

This is bullcrap the source states that activision confirmed by email, yea right!!!.

Well i just received an email from Activision this morning confirming that the wiiU version will be Native 1080

see what i mean?

i think i will wait and see if we get proper confirmation

Seems like a desperate insecure fanboy couldent wait to get this news to hate on the wiiU, prbably made up the email form and took an image of it.

[corrus]

Here other source http://mynintendonews.com/2...

[ozzywazzy]

Do you Ninty fanboys ever get tired of being disappointed? Not 5 days ago you were raving about how games like Mario and COD were going to be native 1080. Damage control crew has been working overtime!

[Cam977]

So will it look better than the PS3 version then? I think yes.

[Kratos_Thy_God]

well i fucking hope so, its a 2012 system......

[B-radical]

Well from what ive seen the wii u looks better then other versions (going by trailer) its as if a physx has tooken place although it hasnt well done to wii u for stepping up and adding some things and who ever disagrees faaaakkkk yaaawwww

Ok i know physx is only on pc but what i mean is there looks to be extra details

[Yodagamer]

Meanwhile other third party developers are making their game native 1080p on wiiu

[miDnIghtEr20C_SfF]

Why wouldn't the Wii U version of COD BO2 have Nuketown 2025 in it?

[TalesFromTheBud]

Do you have NO console at the moment?

Why on earth would you buy a WiiU and then get black ops 2?

Enjoy some Mario or something and use that WiiU properly lol

[Schawk]

Go Go Go!!! Activision wii U baby Black Ops 2 in 1080p , o yea baby i love it.
Wii u is gonna rock

[TheUndertaker85]

http://n4g.com/news/1098009...

Kinda called that one. What game developers call "True HD" isn't always what it implies.

[Qrphe]

It was expected, if Nintendo itself can't pull 1080p on games like Pikmin 3 much less 3rd party developers.

Wanna see what they console is capable of doing? Just look at Nintendo's titles and no one else (just like every gen).

[Kratos_Thy_God]

Next gen don't start till sony says so.

[MasterCornholio]

The Wii U is only 50$ more expensive than the PS3 so you really cant expect much more out of it plus the controller is extremely expensive so that lowers the hardware costs for the console even lower not to mention that Nintendo is famous for selling hardware at a profit.

But really like all Nintendo fans say what matters is the gameplay and not the graphics which is something that the Wii U is bringing with its unique controller.

[air1]

I wouldnt expect anything more from activision

[yavorsv]

It's just an upscaled port. What do u want ? It will be the best version with added extras and such,but it looks like these last gen consoles maybe holding back the Wii U for some multiplatform titles and that's it. Why not compare Aliens: Colonial Marines versions ?? Or some Wii U version built from the ground up with PS360 versions . ;)

[OneAboveAll]

Who cares? it's Call of Duty. The game is going to look 6 years old no matter what you scale it to.

[Braid]

That's sad, because Black Ops 2 uses an ARCHAIC game engine that's based on a "modified" five year old technology. If Wii U can't run it at native 1080p, I can't imagine how it could run something like Battlefield 3 @1080p with full detail. Here you go, your first next-gen console. Now that's a great start.

[KontryBoy706]

I can't believe people were actually believing that it was going to be 1080p native on the wii u. LOL Infinity Ward/Treyarch devs working on their engine??? Hell no. To make it better at a higher resolution? Hell no. They would rather keep selling the same game with the same engine so the same people will keep spending the same money for the same game the same as last year the same as the year before that and the year before that etc

[Bumpmapping]

Last gen doesn't start till Nintendo says it does LOL

[AngelicIceDiamond]

19X more powerful than current consoles but yet doesn't do 1080P on the Wii U?

Please don't dig yourself a grave Nintendo.

[PopRocks359]

Wait, how does a CoD game running in 720p confirm anything about the Wii U's ability to play HD games in 1080p?

[1upgamer99]

all good...I was expecting 1080p....BUT the PS3 still chugs along at 30FPS

[1upgamer99]

Wii U is capable of running this in 1080p,at 60FPS. If the publisher didn't do it its not because it is not possible. It will still have a better frame rate than PS3 and 360. Better frame rate =better looking game, Native 1080p or not. Many games are coming to Wii U in full 1080p that would not and have not been on other systems....Looks like Zombi U is going to be. http://playeressence.com/zo... Here is a link that should keep the Nintendo haters at bay PROOF Wii U is far Superior to current consoles http://www.ign.com/boards/t...
So if Activision is not doing BOPS2 Like they said it was going to be more than once, I don't get it. It still is better on Wii U according to Activision.

[jmc8888]

It's amazing people don't understand so many things about 'next gen' and the 'wii u'.

There will be NO 'next gen' console system. Sorry. 720/PS4/Wii U.... NONE will be next generation. All of them (ps4/720/wii u) are 'this generation part 2' or 'this generation fully realized'.

Even a PC running two GTX 690's (that's basically four GTX 670 gpu's) is not next gen. GTX 790 or 795 won't be next gen. More like the GTX 8XX or 9XX will be 'next generation'.

The 720 and PS4 won't be anywhere near those levels. A GTX 670 has more raw power than the 720/PS4. Now after optimizations given the structure of PC vs Console and that consoles have designed latency advantage, then you can expect performance roughly on par with a GTX 670. Meanwhile the Wii U has the performance it looks like of a ATI 5770 after optimizations.

So basically whatever the Wii U is better than the 360/ps3, the 720/PS4 will have over the Wii U. Except Wii U will actually play games at 720 and yes 1080.

People are morons to think the devs are going to be able to squeeze out 1080p as a rule in early releases. They don't know the ins and outs of the consoles, and are working on a very compressed timeframe. I'm quite sure they'll have 1080p games, just not many of the 1st ones. Anyone remember the crappy graphics of the first 360 games? I do. Did they get better? Yeah. But I'll still take a 1280x720 version over a 1024x600 version or 9XX by 544 version which is what 360/ps3 has. Also it's not just resolution. What are the textures like. Really in CoD besides the ultimate jaggies, there were piss poor textures. While they look improved in all versions this time around (at least what they've shown), the Wii U version has the ability to showcase much higher textures. I'm sure if they wanted the same crappy textures as I've been playing on the 360 CoD version, they could easily have 1080p, but they are upping them, and that makes it tougher to ahcieve 1080p.

Again, if you want the most powerful, PC will be your best bet. All the consoles will pale in comparison to a good PC gaming rig, so if people are so concerned with which console has better graphics, I guess they like holding up we're number 2 foam finger.

The reason why Wii U is a good deal is because no matter what the ps4/720 have in it, it simply won't be that much better than the Wii U. It'll look better sure. But there was a MASSIVE difference between 360/ps3 capabilities and the Wii. That massive difference will be gone. It'll be better, like Amiga had better graphics than PC games did in the later 80's but they both were really good for the time.

[jmc8888]

It's funny how the young ones bash Nintendo. I'm only 34, yet I've been gaming since Apple II and Atari were king. Thus I can tell you with confidence there was a time when Nintendo WAS the hardcore and the best. It seems the only people that really bash Nintendo come from the gaming generation that started with the Playstation and original Xbox. There's a lot of generations before and will be after what was 'normal' then. Things change. Wii U has a perception from myopic youngish gamers that didn't see the before, and haven't lived life long enough to project the after.

Wii U will be a great system, with great nintendo 1st party titles. I skipped the Wii and the gamecube. I won't be skipping the Wii U. Yes I know it IS inferior technically than my i7 920@ 4ghz and GTX 670. So what. Besides the PC version, the Wii U version will be the best, and will be getting Nuketown 2025. If you like playing FPS with controllers against other people using controllers (which I'm not limited to, but do like), then the Wii U version appears to be the best. The only real question about the Wii U version is how will the online functionality of the Wii U be implemented. Will it be buggy, laggy, and crappy? We'll see. But I'll take a shot at it.