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Submitted by Zok 1142d ago | news

Nintendo Won’t Say For Sure: New Super Mario Bros. U Might Not Support 1080p HD After All

The still-developing official site for New Super Mario Bros. U recently stated that the launch title would support full 1080p HD graphics, but apparently, Nintendo is not ready to make up its mind on the issue, because now the site has changed that statement. (New Super Mario Bros. U, Wii U)

ChickeyCantor  +   1142d ago
Wasn't the issue that they said "720p"?
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kB0  +   1142d ago
The problem in my eyes is, this console is already out of day before it even launches.

Even the Ps3 and 360 were late for the HD world, seeing as when they came out 1080p started becoming standard for HD TVs.
6-7 years later and the Wii.U is joining the 720p ranks?

I know its about the games and I'm going to love playing Zombie.U and NSMBU, but I just can't justify the price tag anymore.

FOr 300+ dollars I'd rather invest in a console that has already set itself up in the market and already has a vaster amount of titles.

Looks like I'm waiting for 150-200 (250$ Max) price range before I buy a wiiU.

Hopefully the unit truly is 1080p, I hate playing sub resolution.
Salamander  +   1142d ago
300$ is bloody cheap for a new console, im going to go ahead and assume you dont already own a ps3 or Xbox360, since you would rather invest in one of those. But if im getting a new console that will(god willing) provide 5+ years of gaming then 300$ is bugger all. Im willing to bet the value i get for that price is gonna go above and beyond.
kB0  +   1142d ago
300$ in this economic turmoil is not cheap. don't forget tax + the extra controllers (since it's a Nintendo console it BENEFITS HEAVILY from couch gaming <3)

Add 60$ games I mean it's not just a purchase your investing.

I'm not saying that there haven't been more expensive consoles out there, but the technology generally matched the release.

The base console should be 200-250$ launch since a lot of the NEXT GEN tech is being invested in that screen controller.

Again I will get this eventually but i can't afford to invest anymore. I'll wait till it has built up a library, I'm not carrying consoles anymore. (Obviously this is the same situation for 720 and PS4, unless they are priced at 300$ in which I guess its a good investment with the tech they are "promising" but I highly doubt those consoles will be sub 400$).
deafdani  +   1141d ago
"For 300+ dollars I'd rather invest in a console that has already set itself up in the market and already has a vaster amount of titles."

You could've employed the same exact argument when the PS3 / Xbox 360 came out, you know.

"$600 for a PS3? For that money I can buy a PS2 and about 10 games".

At least with the Wii U the price difference with current consoles isn't actually that big, and a big part of it is because the Wii U isn't insanely more powerful, it has similar specs overall, plus a new controller.

To me, that price is perfectly justified. I will just be happy to play Nintendo's superb first party titles on HD.

You're right when you say it's weird to see Nintendo not commiting to full HD games at launch. But that doesn't mean the Wii U isn't capable of that. Black Ops 2 is already confirmed to run at 1080p and 60fps, something current consoles can't do. So, it baffles me why Nintendo doesn't make their games run at full HD with 60fps as well, but that doesn't indicate the machine can't do it.

My educated guess regarding that rather funny decision would be that Nintendo is a newcomer when it comes to developing games for HD consoles. Maybe they toned it down intentionally because they want to get used to the hardware, get accustomed to it, before going full force. I expect the next 3D Mario game and next Zelda and next Metroid to look stupidly awesome, with 1080p graphics running at 60fps and everything.
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DeadlyFire  +   1142d ago
Does Mario really need to be 1080? Can't it just be upscaled from 720. Graphics don't really change that much for Mario. I wouldn't mind seeing him in 480 or 1080. Won't matter to me. He has always been a mark for a fun series. I started gaming with Super Mario Bros. for NES.
kB0  +   1142d ago
Not on a next gen console.

Look at it this way, do you like the idea of getting a console LAUNCH that can't do 1080p? Usually if it can't do launch 1080p and for a simple game like mario then I can't expect any game that will do 1080p unless its a downloadable.
Neonridr  +   1142d ago
Xbox and PS3 still don't do 1080p - take CoD for example, it runs at like 640p which isn't even 720 yet. Face it, the Wii U can do 720/1080 at 60 frames per second. If the 360 or PS3 want to do 720p they have to drop the framerate to 30 frames per second, and even then it isn't steady (look at how much Skyrim stutters at times).
DragonKnight  +   1142d ago
@Neonridr: Wipeout HD says hi.
DeadlyFire  +   1142d ago
Not saying I don't believe the console can't do 1080, but just saying Mario doesn't really need to be 1080p.

Nintendo is likely aiming for a 720/1080 generation with WiiU. I expect the games will vary between the two formats along the way.
bad naruto  +   1142d ago
Next generation console.
-Mika-  +   1142d ago
Yep. It 2012. It should easily be able to do 1080p.
wishingW3L  +   1142d ago
probably just trying to bypass an up-scaled 1080p as native.
TheLyonKing  +   1142d ago
TBH this is my least favorite game I am looking forward to play on the wii U, it is just an HD mario with really no innovation, so it can be pixel blocks fro all I care.
deafdani  +   1141d ago
"It is just an HD mario".

SOLD. Regardless of resolution, it still will be a bloody lot of fun. Heck, New Super Mario Bros 2 is a blast to play, despite it being the lowest rated New Super Mario Bros game to date.
Fishy Fingers  +   1142d ago
What self respecting Mario fan would consider playing one of his games in anything less than 1080p. Nintendo have to forget about making fun titles and give us the tech specs we desperately crave in order to enjoy our games.
kB0  +   1142d ago
sarcasm is a little stale, the fact that we're investing in next gen should reflect what we buy.

There are plenty of games that match the previous 720p and are fun as well.

With next gen coming out I can't see why Nintendo can't do both? Can they no multitask?

A good example is Pokemon actually...managing to sell no matter what even with it's engine recycled since 1999. You can say it's been upgraded but seriously by how much? It's the Call of Duty effect, even COD only had about 6 years of recycling.

I had to say no to both games at one point:), Next pokemon I buy will be a 3D world explorer, next COD I buy...well I'm not buying the next cod lol I doubt we'll see anything ground breaking.

So the point is, don't give just bare minimum, Nintendo is taking our hard earned cash and they should give us a next gen console that matches our screen resolution. They've been able to do this up until Game Cube, what the hell happened after?
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ronin4life  +   1141d ago
Last I checked, people are buying the next gen console for the promise of fun games, regardless of graphics. The available software justifies the purchase, not some floaty perception of potential visual capability or rather what that capability *should* be.

The value comes from the SOFTWARE quality and hardware stability, Not the other way around. That's why the 3ds sells better than the vita, and why the psp sells better than the vita. Good games are the reason we buy consoles.
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Smashbro29  +   1142d ago
A game can be fun and have technical excellence. Stop being such a fanboy, if Nintendo wants to release a game that looks this simple for their new console in 2012 it's not crazy to want 1080p support.

That being said I'd much rather have 60FPS than 1080p.
ronin4life  +   1141d ago
Yes. But I think too many are focusing on tech specs over actual game design. Many just to have a weapon against whatever company they are railing against at the moment.
ChickenOfTheCaveMan  +   1141d ago
Shame on Nintendo if they can't do both.

Take example on Rayman Origins and go full hd and lots of fun.

They proclaim Wii U has better capability than current generation, well show it with 1080P on all in house games...especially 2D games!
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boybato  +   1142d ago
make up your mind nintendo.. some of us wants to see the tread count on mario's jumper that clearly.
MasterCornholio  +   1142d ago
Screenshot of New Super Mario Bros U

For a game like this i expect a Next gen console to be able to handle it at 1080P 60FPS. Anything less and it isn´t worth it.

Nintendo get your act together and prove to the world that the Wii U is an extremely powerful Next gen system capable of playing a game like Super Mario Brothers U at 1080P at 60FPS.

Anyways i find it hard to believe that this title on a next gen system would be anything less than 1080P at 60FPS which is why i find the rumor difficult to believe.


It doesnt matter. If the Wii U is more than capable of handling a Mario game at 1080P at 60FPS why would it be a bad thing if the game ran at that resolution and at that framerate. Unless of course your one of those that believe that an increase in visual fidelity will ruin gameplay.

P.S You can still have a regular looking game running at 1080P at 60FPS. The game doesnt have to be photo realistic to run at 1080P at 60FPS.

Heres an example of a game that doesnt have amazing graphics but it runs at 1080P.
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Neonridr  +   1142d ago
Rayman Legends is 1080p at 60 frames per second. Trine 2 is 1080p at 60 frames per second. ZombiU is 1080p (no confirmation on 60 frames per second)..

relax, you'll get your 1080p fill with the Wii U.
deafdani  +   1141d ago
Dude, but the 1080p at 60fps only serve to 1080p at 60fps, because 1080p at 60fps just isn't enough to 1080p at 60fps.

Oh, and another thing: 1080p at 60fps. 1080P AT 60FPS!!!!

Peace, 1080p. At 60fps. Bro.
sandman224  +   1142d ago
I don't think Mario games really need to be 1080p. The franchise isn't meant to be a graphic power house. Just run it at 60 fps and 720p. That will be good for a Mario game.
Baka-akaB  +   1142d ago
Even more reason when the game isnt demanding to be able to run it at 1080p . I dont care much in this case , but let's not be yes men to everything either .
Ck1x  +   1141d ago
I love how you guys make it sound as if its just like turning on a light switch or something... If the artwork or design isn't created for 1080p then how does one expect the games to take advantage of that resolution?
Baka-akaB  +   1141d ago
I love how you make it sounds i said that .

They could have precisely created such artwork if willing . They just didnt want to commit the ressources to it that's all .

It's not some kind of complex spiritual sequel to Galaxy . Nor is it some indie niche 2d game that wouldnt be profitable and gotta use its budget very carefully .

It's NSMB turned hd and either way will bring tons of money .

Like i said , i dont mind much it doesnt undermine the game at all , but i wont just say blindly yes to everything Nintendo does like some people .
NiteX  +   1142d ago
If it can't even do a simple Mario game in 1080p, it will look super outdated once 4k resolution arrives. 720p looks so awful now, my pc spoiled me.
fourtwenty2009  +   1142d ago
^ this.
Baka-akaB  +   1142d ago
I doubt it means anything about the console's capabilities or lack of .

Come on let's be honest here and look at the game at hand .

It's just a rip off re-release with new controls and a little bit of hd ... hardly a wii u built up game that's struggling on the hardware
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fourtwenty2009  +   1142d ago
Let me get this straight. Nintendo wants you to pay for $300+ plus the cost of the game for a 720p version of NSMBU instead of a 480p version of NSMB? and this is their great offering for 'next gen' consoles? Even the person editing the official NSMBU website can't believe it's not 1080p! LOL. I'm not even going to bother asking if the next Zelda will be 1080p. Guess we have to wait for 'next next' gen, after PS5/X1440 have moved on from 4k for Nintendo to take 10 year old Full HD technology seriously.

Really really pathetic that you have to turn to PC emulation to get Nintendo content in 1080p. Hilarious that I can run NSMB Wii on my PC in 1080p and NSMBU on the Wiiu will only do 720p. Guess I'll just wait for the Wii U emulator and play Nintendo games the best way possible -- NOT on Nintendo hardware. LOL

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Neonridr  +   1142d ago
you are ridiculous. We know there are 1080p games out there for the Wii U (ZombiU, Rayman Legends, Black Ops2 is heavily rumoured to be 1080p) - so we know the system is capable. Remember Nintendo has never done HD before, so this is their first foray. I am sure they could have spent the extra resources and money to make it 1080p, however perhaps they felt that 720p suited the nature of the game just fine. Tell you what, you go out and make a better game and make it 1080p and then I'll take your opinions seriously.

It's not like Sony or MS fans have anything to gripe about, their systems can't even do native 720p half the time, and when they are capable of it, it has to be limited to 30 frames per second.
ado908  +   1142d ago
"Sony or MS fans have anything to gripe about, their systems can't even do native 720p half the time, and when they are capable of it"

So what you're saying is out of 800+ games that has been released on this gen console, half of it is not doing 720p and limited to 30 FPS. Do you have anymore diarrhea spewing out of your mouth? I would love to hear where you get your 'source' of information from.
Baka-akaB  +   1142d ago
yeah it's obvious its not a true wii u game that's all . I'm not fine with the idea and release of it , so i wont get the game anyway

"their systems can't even do native 720p half the time, and when they are capable of it, it has to be limited to 30 frames per second."

Let's not exagerate either . Enough games do 60fps @ 720p . It's usually highly demanding fps that are struggling
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Ck1x  +   1141d ago
Well actually he's pretty spot on there! Most of the games towards the end of this console cycle are having problems reaching 720p and the visual fidelity is being sacrificed for performance value. I would like to see when games like Black-Ops2 and AC3 are picked apart by The Lense of Truth to show how aged these current consoles really are...
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Baka-akaB  +   1141d ago
One is an open world game ... the other is a 60fps FPS .

There is a difference between admitting some games (and 1080p) are putting those consoles on their knees , and pretending suddenly that everything is running at 30 .

Among other example , you met yet a lot , if any fighting game or most hack and slash below 60 fps this gen ? Only the upcoming Jojo and DmC comes to mind ...
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Ron_Danger  +   1142d ago
How would it not be? Isnt it a 2D sidescroller??
MNGamer-N  +   1141d ago
What's funny to me is some of you on this board are sincerely "worried" about 720hd vs 1080hd mario video games?? WORRIED? Can't you just enjoy playing a game, you really have to be WORRIED about it like it affects your life & health? Good lord.
Ck1x  +   1141d ago
I know and worried to the point as if the console can't even handle 1080p, when games like Trine 2 DC look amazing on the console. Far better than any Mario title to date that's for certain...
cyclindk  +   1141d ago
If it couldn't pull off 1080p in a Mario game, what hope would they have in putting out titles with amazing visuals in 1080?

Hopefully, for those who buy one, this is just a... IDK, error.

Not that I think it's gonna deter anyone though..
jay2  +   1141d ago
PMSL that game's no graphical power house, if it can't then OMFG panic for the Wii u.
Zhipp  +   1141d ago
If it can run ACIII in 720p, it should have no problems running NSMB in 1080p. I mean, just look at the game! It's hardly pushing any technical boundaries. If this turns out to be 720p native, it sure as hell isn't the hardware's fault.

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