So...following previously used logic...any games that appear on Gaikai are no long considered exclusives? I am sure I will enjoy some of these answers.
Unfortunately 3G/4G is high on latency even though bandwidth cn can be good. I doubt it will work very well for this. You'll probably need a good Wifi connection to have a good experience.
I dont think it is to do with PSmobile as it doesnt make sense to stream games that are 2mb and 10mb.
I dont think they will allow PS Exclusives to be launched on 3rd party devices.
What I do think Sony will be doing is:
Offer a streaming services across various platforms for the many 3rd party games out there such as Assassins Creed, GTA, Call of Duty etc.
Offer demos of Exclusive games coming out on Sony devices.
Allow cross platform play with Sony devices.
Allow trophy support and other features which tie into PSN.
In other words, Gaikai will be the inbetween link between Official Sony consoles and 3rd party devices. The bridge to test the water before jumping into buying a Sony product if you are unsure.
This is the reason why I think you are right in saying this is a Megaton. This is a service that will be bigger than Sony as for a console maker, this if done right will expand beyond their 4 walls.
If it is not a Sony device then it isnt exclusive. Exclusive means exclusively on a certain platform and not on any other. When you have games showing up on multiple platforms they are not exclusive. Madden is not exclusive even though its made by EA because it shows up on many platforms.
If I can own a samsung phone and play sone games without needing a Sony device to do so, then those games are not exclusive.
Well, you'll probably never be able to use your Dualshock. Apple are dicks about 3rd party devices, especially game controllers. The only way they approved the Gameloft one is it only works with Gameloft games. But I guess if it only worked with Gaikai...
The DualShock 3 is bluetooth so it can pair with any iOS device if developers put the inputs into there apps. Apple has no control over what bluetooth device can talk with an iOS device.
@Sev this has always been the move right from the start..kaz even stated this right off the bat.
with the Playstation Mobile development platform.
"PlayStation on iPhone? What is potentially far more interesting (and wide-reaching) is the promise that we may see PlayStation Suite game downloads made available on Apple's iOS and PCs running Microsoft Windows, if recent comments from Sony boss Kaz Hirai are anything to go by. "There are a variety of operating systems, but we're focusing first on Android," the Sony Computer Entertainment boss said in a conference this month, as Eurogamer reports. "There's also Windows, iOS and so forth, but we don't have the resources to make it compatible with everything from the start." "We're not ruling out PSS even on products like Sony Internet TV Powered by Google [Google TV] if adoption rate increases, or if it will help push adoption greatly. We have a completely open stance with carriers and handset makers."
I doubt they would make PS3/Vita/4 exclusives playable on other platforms other than their platforms. It could increase software sales but it would definitely hurt hardware sales.
If PS3, PSVITA, and PS4 exclusive games can be played elsewhere. Then what would be the point of owning THAT platform. lol
They'll probably make it so that PS exclusive games can only be streamed onto their platforms, but muliplat games can be streamed practically anywhere else. I'm also expecting to see some PC exclusives on PS platforms via Gaikai streaming. Could be pretty awesome.
PS3 games ARE coming to the Wikipad. What they'll do is allow older exclusives to be playable via Gaikai. And they'll probably allow us to play the complete collection of PS3 PSN games through our Vitas too.
@ srcBFMVBMTH " It could increase software sales but it would definitely hurt hardware sales. "
"If PS3, PSVITA, and PS4 exclusive games can be played elsewhere. Then what would be the point of owning THAT platform." lol
Has that hurt Microsoft's xbox platform?
Many of its best exclusives have all found them published to the PC, why would it be anymore of a detriment for Sony as it would be for Microsoft?
What that would the playstation Platform be without its exclusives?
The simple fact is it will still be a Playstation!
and that does not outright mean all the exclusives go day and date to the Gaikai service with the release of the playstation console release. there may be games that do not get put on the service of Gaikai and only released on the Playstation platform or at least first.
Than you may say you can wait, and i will still get to play the game at a later time, than I guess you could wait and Hope it gets released on another platform.
"And they'll probably allow us to play the complete collection of PS3 PSN games through our Vitas too"
Well I'm definitely expecting that. PS3/PS2 exclusives brought to Gaikai so that they could be played on the Vita. But I'm not too sure about the Wikipad thing. Do you have a link?
What would be the point of owning that specific platform (PS3,Vita,PS4) if those exclusives can be played elsewhere other than a Sony product? It's not that I'm against or anything lol. It's that I don't see the point if it could potentially hurt hardware sales.
@joeorc
"Has that hurt Microsoft's xbox platform?
Many of its best exclusives have all found them published to the PC, why would it be anymore of a detriment for Sony as it would be for Microsoft?"
Well considering the fact that you can't find many Xbox 360 exclusives developed by Microsoft going to PC anymore. I think it actually could have. Most of their popular games such
Gears 2,3, and Judgement Halo Wars, 3 ODST, Reach, and 4 Forza 2,3,4 and Horizon Fable 2, and The Journey
and many more
don't appear on other platforms for a reason. There wouldn't be a point in owning a 360 if they did. lol
Maybe there will be some sort of code provided in new copies to allow the purchaser to play it on 'Mobile' devices as well. Anything can happen, let the speculation run rampant!
Dude your absolutely right...think about it: The cost of running the servers 24/7 for Cloud is not gonna be cheap, so Sony might as well be churning out profits via hardware too.
for microsoft would be a win win situation ...when u can play ps games on your windows pc increasing windows 8 gaming area ....ps3 ownser will no play halo ....so they still need a xbl account and a xbox...
i think this is the beginning of leaving the "expansive" high end hardware consoles ....for sony...so im not happy at all
Dafuq sony? If gaikai went to vita only it would save the vita... Please do something i hate the doom and gloom articles:( My dream is to beat every journalist that ever wrote a article doom and gloom
So spending hundreds of millions of dollars on a new initiative would be best put to use on a platform that isn't selling well, but will likely make use of said initiative anyway, all while closing the door on the millions of people who DON'T own a Vita? Brilliant.
Well I'm not trying to sound like a fanboy, But when sony starts putting there exsclusives on gaikai sony fans will lose one of there main arguing points. Which is that there is no need for them to buy a xbox platform cause all of there games are on pc, Well sony fans welcome to MS, Cause sony is about to do the same thing, Why? cause it makes since from a buisness stand point, but let it been MS all kind of hell would've been raise why there is no need for an xbox.
@whoyouwit04 "Well I'm not trying to sound like a fanboy, But when sony starts putting there exsclusives on gaikai sony fans will lose one of there main arguing points. Which is that there is no need for them to buy a xbox platform cause all of there games are on pc, Well sony fans welcome to MS, Cause sony is about to do the same thing, Why? cause it makes since from a buisness stand point, but let it been MS all kind of hell would've been raise why there is no need for an xbox."
an your point is?
you are going to hear that no matter what, even you brought up that very point, its about hypocrisy right?
well that is not just for the realm of fans of Sony products, "why buy the PS3 multiplatform game when the same game play's better on the xbox360" Since that same game play's better on the PC! lol
point that out is like anything you are always going to hear that same argument no matter what and its still a moot point no matter what anyway.
Theres no way the last of us is gonna appear on anything other than the ps3 when it launches. They would lose so many ps3 hardware sales if that happened
The cost of running 3rd party games on Cloud servers would come at the expense of Sony since Gaikai is their company. So, i don't know how they are going to settle the cost of running games that eventually get old and are not worth the money of keeping alive. THAT is a major issue that Onlive had. Gaikai had yet to have that issue before, because all they were focused on was demo's. Now they and Sony are gonna have to take this into consideration/
@MightyPatapon "I thought the main idea behind Sony acquiring Gaikai was for Sony to get content to stream on PlayStation platforms.
But it seems like Sony Computer Entertainment content is going other places.
The idea of streaming and playing The Last of Us on PC seems weird to me."
and the blunt point is it still is!
I have been pointing out this for the past few year's, Sony is moving and Expanding the Playstation Brand into the Market as a whole, it does not mean that the Playstation platform is going 3rd party, it just means that Playstation content can be released on other hardware and the idea is to sell playstation content to as many people as they can.
If you have a playstation machine made by Sony or not. the point of owning a Playstation is just as viable as it is any hardware sku to play your content, because not all playstation content may not get released to other platforms other than a playstation. That does not mean that there would not be a chance to play older playstation games on other hardware though. So anyway you look at it its still the content that matter's.
Sony has cell phones, Tablets, PC's, and of course the gaming platforms. it could put some games on all the hardware it can and not really leave the "Sony" brand.
Interesting, not to long ago N4G shunned mobile gaming for it's lack of real controls and ripped people apart who said mobile(smartphone) gaming was viable and here to stay.
And yet here we are seeing a different point of view and new light with a few of the same commenters.
Could the "Other Mobile Devices" be Windows Mobile phones?
I doubt it because WM phones only take up around 2% of all smartphones, so why would Sony bother trying to cut a deal with MS? I doubt Sony and MS would partner on anything game related anyway.
Not that it matters, though.
Windows Mobile stinks, and so does iOS.
Android FTW!
wait a sec. The info doesnt really imply that Gaikai would come to IOS.The list says"coming to android and other mobile platforms" instead of "coming to android and IOS" it doesnt mae sense cause why should they leave the brandname "IOS" out? other mobile devices could mean that its coming to playstation certified phones like xperia, wikipad,Vita Thats why people should'nt get their Hopes too high
Glad to see Sony planning for the future like this. If they can make this work well for Android and find a way to monetize it fairly and still profit, this could be pretty huge.
Android + IOS = a gigantic audience for the Playstation platform.
what about a playstation smart tv. you'll be able to stream games on the tv. netflix, huluplus, hbo go and some kind of play station eye right on the system.
Sony wins next gen by announcing they are offering PS games on 3rd party devices? Doesnt take much for you to give Sony the win... I can see it now. Sony announces new cup holder built into the PS4 and here you come "OMG its the greatest thing ever, Sony wins this gen hands down." Could you be more pathetic?
If Sony can make available the entire PS2 collection via Gaikai to all Playstation consoles im gonna lose my mind.
And if Sony can make available their entire movie, music and entertainment properties via Gaikai to all Playstation consoles and other media devices like tablets and smartphones, im gonna die.
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Lets see how well 4G will do.
Sony is really using the power of its brand name to push this game changing service to literally everyone!
Rated E for Everyone ^_^
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my Samsung GS2 will be the middle man between supporting smart glass and gaikai.
Still sounds cool though.
I dont think it is to do with PSmobile as it doesnt make sense to stream games that are 2mb and 10mb.
I dont think they will allow PS Exclusives to be launched on 3rd party devices.
What I do think Sony will be doing is:
Offer a streaming services across various platforms for the many 3rd party games out there such as Assassins Creed, GTA, Call of Duty etc.
Offer demos of Exclusive games coming out on Sony devices.
Allow cross platform play with Sony devices.
Allow trophy support and other features which tie into PSN.
In other words, Gaikai will be the inbetween link between Official Sony consoles and 3rd party devices. The bridge to test the water before jumping into buying a Sony product if you are unsure.
This is the reason why I think you are right in saying this is a Megaton. This is a service that will be bigger than Sony as for a console maker, this if done right will expand beyond their 4 walls.
If I can own a samsung phone and play sone games without needing a Sony device to do so, then those games are not exclusive.
But perhaps with a corporation behind it, it can become larger than Onlive could ever hope.
but i wonder how this will work
i was assuming the hardware must still be strong enough to play the games on say an android phone or iPhone regardless if its streaming or not
but if this is possible im 100% behind you sony
bring it on
no more need to go to the local video game store to purchase a game
this has always been the move right from the start..kaz even stated this right off the bat.
with the Playstation Mobile development platform.
"PlayStation on iPhone?
What is potentially far more interesting (and wide-reaching) is the promise that we may see PlayStation Suite game downloads made available on Apple's iOS and PCs running Microsoft Windows, if recent comments from Sony boss Kaz Hirai are anything to go by.
"There are a variety of operating systems, but we're focusing first on Android," the Sony Computer Entertainment boss said in a conference this month, as Eurogamer reports.
"There's also Windows, iOS and so forth, but we don't have the resources to make it compatible with everything from the start."
"We're not ruling out PSS even on products like Sony Internet TV Powered by Google [Google TV] if adoption rate increases, or if it will help push adoption greatly. We have a completely open stance with carriers and handset makers."
http://www.techradar.com/us...
the first OS was going to be Android, than other OS's yes even Windows and iOS!
Thats what I was thinking too until I realised the biggest competitor Apple has is Microsoft.
Plus they are lacking on the gaming front compared to Microsoft which has done all it has to starve Mac users of major games.
1) Yeah i remember this last January 2011.
But will Apple or M$ allow this?
Apple has Apple TV in the works and M$ has Xbox Live on Windows 8 mobile & PC?
How about Steam?
2) Since it's a subscription service it all boils down to money into Sony's pockets whichever or whatever way possible.
3) " GAIKAI and the GAIKAI logo are trademarks or registered trademarks of Gaikai, Inc. (a Sony Computer Entertainment company). ©2012 Gaikai, Inc. All rights reserved."
Well that sealed the deal.
4) David Perry, eh? so Its Earthworm Jim galore on Gaikai.
5) What about DLCs? Timed Exclusives by M$?
My Samsung Galaxy S2 & S3 is ready for Uncharted!
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sony exclusives that go on android or ios? or shovelware?
i think more the 2 choice..so having and ipad2 and android phone i dont care
If PS3, PSVITA, and PS4 exclusive games can be played elsewhere. Then what would be the point of owning THAT platform. lol
They'll probably make it so that PS exclusive games can only be streamed onto their platforms, but muliplat games can be streamed practically anywhere else. I'm also expecting to see some PC exclusives on PS platforms via Gaikai streaming. Could be pretty awesome.
" It could increase software sales but it would definitely hurt hardware sales. "
"If PS3, PSVITA, and PS4 exclusive games can be played elsewhere. Then what would be the point of owning THAT platform." lol
Has that hurt Microsoft's xbox platform?
Many of its best exclusives have all found them published to the PC, why would it be anymore of a detriment for Sony as it would be for Microsoft?
What that would the playstation Platform be without its exclusives?
The simple fact is it will still be a Playstation!
and that does not outright mean all the exclusives go day and date to the Gaikai service with the release of the playstation console release. there may be games that do not get put on the service of Gaikai and only released on the Playstation platform or at least first.
Than you may say you can wait, and i will still get to play the game at a later time, than I guess you could wait and Hope it gets released on another platform.
"And they'll probably allow us to play the complete collection of PS3 PSN games through our Vitas too"
Well I'm definitely expecting that. PS3/PS2 exclusives brought to Gaikai so that they could be played on the Vita. But I'm not too sure about the Wikipad thing. Do you have a link?
What would be the point of owning that specific platform (PS3,Vita,PS4) if those exclusives can be played elsewhere other than a Sony product? It's not that I'm against or anything lol. It's that I don't see the point if it could potentially hurt hardware sales.
@joeorc
"Has that hurt Microsoft's xbox platform?
Many of its best exclusives have all found them published to the PC, why would it be anymore of a detriment for Sony as it would be for Microsoft?"
Well considering the fact that you can't find many Xbox 360 exclusives developed by Microsoft going to PC anymore. I think it actually could have. Most of their popular games such
Gears 2,3, and Judgement
Halo Wars, 3 ODST, Reach, and 4
Forza 2,3,4 and Horizon
Fable 2, and The Journey
and many more
don't appear on other platforms for a reason. There wouldn't be a point in owning a 360 if they did. lol
i think this is the beginning of leaving the "expansive" high end hardware consoles ....for sony...so im not happy at all
Now when the TV is being used, I can still play PS titles on my phone.
Thanks Sony.
"Well I'm not trying to sound like a fanboy, But when sony starts putting there exsclusives on gaikai sony fans will lose one of there main arguing points. Which is that there is no need for them to buy a xbox platform cause all of there games are on pc, Well sony fans welcome to MS, Cause sony is about to do the same thing, Why? cause it makes since from a buisness stand point, but let it been MS all kind of hell would've been raise why there is no need for an xbox."
an your point is?
you are going to hear that no matter what, even you brought up that very point, its about hypocrisy right?
well that is not just for the realm of fans of Sony products, "why buy the PS3 multiplatform game when the same game play's better on the xbox360" Since that same game play's better on the PC! lol
point that out is like anything you are always going to hear that same argument no matter what and its still a moot point no matter what anyway.
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I would rather have the controls inside the device like the Xperia Play for example.
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But it seems like Sony Computer Entertainment content is going other places.
The idea of streaming and playing The Last of Us on PC seems weird to me.
I'm sure PS3/VITA/PS4 exclusive games will indeed be brought to Gaikai, but only being able to be streamed on other PlayStation products.
Hence the slogan "Only On PlayStation". lol
"I thought the main idea behind Sony acquiring Gaikai was for Sony to get content to stream on PlayStation platforms.
But it seems like Sony Computer Entertainment content is going other places.
The idea of streaming and playing The Last of Us on PC seems weird to me."
and the blunt point is it still is!
I have been pointing out this for the past few year's, Sony is moving and Expanding the Playstation Brand into the Market as a whole, it does not mean that the Playstation platform is going 3rd party, it just means that Playstation content can be released on other hardware and the idea is to sell playstation content to as many people as they can.
If you have a playstation machine made by Sony or not. the point of owning a Playstation is just as viable as it is any hardware sku to play your content, because not all playstation content may not get released to other platforms other than a playstation. That does not mean that there would not be a chance to play older playstation games on other hardware though. So anyway you look at it its still the content that matter's.
And yet here we are seeing a different point of view and new light with a few of the same commenters.
It amazes me how inconsistence people are on the internet.
I said it still has no buttons someones mentions the USB ports. lol
Hey look! It has buttons. Oh the buttons!
Someone mentioned USB for a reason you know. Not hard to research instead of being an ass.
A few of them are Qrphe, oh most definite a few of them are.
I doubt it because WM phones only take up around 2% of all smartphones, so why would Sony bother trying to cut a deal with MS? I doubt Sony and MS would partner on anything game related anyway.
Not that it matters, though.
Windows Mobile stinks, and so does iOS.
Android FTW!
Thats why people should'nt get their Hopes too high
Glad to see Sony planning for the future like this. If they can make this work well for Android and find a way to monetize it fairly and still profit, this could be pretty huge.
Android + IOS = a gigantic audience for the Playstation platform.
they already own next gen easy
brilliant move kaz
And if Sony can make available their entire movie, music and entertainment properties via Gaikai to all Playstation consoles and other media devices like tablets and smartphones, im gonna die.
But with that said, It would be a good move on Sony to get their contents out to as many people as they can = more money.