Masonic Gamer: With the upcoming release of the Nintendo Wii U all eyes are on the ‘next-gen’ of console gaming. It goes without saying that many gamers have dismissed Nintendo in recent years and with this announcement immediately fast-forwards to speculation on Sony and Microsofts successors in the industry. After reading many articles, I’ve decided to throw my hat in the ring and discuss why I think the PS4 is doomed.
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Wonder if the author of the article will let me borrow the magic 8 ball he used to write this article. Would love to use it to buy some lottery numbers
Wii 42%
96.7m
Xbox 30%
68.6m
PS3 29%
66.8m
PS3 isn't doing bad at all. All 3 are doing well when it comes to sales (especially Wii).
I wonder what will happen next gen...
Will people go all out for the next xbox/ps4, or continue the less expensive Wii route?
The FACT is, we just dont know...
With the same logic, the Wii would have failed miserably because of the sales performance of the Gamecube. Can anyone be so stupid and ignorant as to make such a fanbaiting fishing-for-hits article? Apparently so.
Exactly, being First or Last doesn't change how enjoyable the games will be.
we know nothing about the PS4 yet but "its doom article" pop-up already.
RUBBISH
I don't want kid pokemon games & and I don't want to pay for online gaming.
Naughty Dog on ps4 again will be unmatched by other devs.
To bad only marketing is appealing to console gamers. This is why nintendo goes casual(wii), abandons core gamers & then brings out a next gen console with not even one semi next gen game and everyone goes crazy.
Out of all the companies Sony is the only one who puts core gamers first.
Ps3 is the most popular of the 360 vs ps3 world wide sales. And wii out sold everything to casual gamers and is the worlds biggest dust collector.
No? prove me wrong then..
http://www.xbitlabs.com/new...
http://www.computerandvideo...
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http://latimesblogs.latimes...
http://www.cinemablend.com/...
lol mika said it also.
to make a blanket statement such as: the ps4 will fail. Granted the person who made that statement backed it up with their perspective of the situation. but why are they so certain that theirs is the correct perspective?
The success or failure of a platform has not been so much about the platform itself but the support behind it. That basically means that unless sony is the ONLY one supporting the ps4, it will do just fine.
Taking things like hardware cost, development cost and of course the actual specifics of the hardware can all have a hand in the success or failure. It still comes down to the games and the dedication of 3rd party support.
Believe it or not, the 3rd parties are far more important than a big stable of 1st party exclusives.
Why the "Why the *blank* will fail" claims are fucking stupid...
Seriously just "journalist" trying to gain hits while all it's doing is hurting the game industry.
So even if the PS4 "fails" (although I would not consider a product that sells dozens of millions a fail) in the sales department it doesn't mean it won't be an awesome system to own for us gamers on this site!
Well said. Look at this:
http://n4g.com/news/1096804...
"Is this for real, who would approve spam?"
Yet the same person that lamented that article is the one who submitted this one.
Hypocrite much?
He joined a month ago and is already submitting. Dupe account? Common sense says yes.
for the sake of hits ha? masonicgamer? it's really "moronicgamer", right?
PS3 and 360 sold around the same but somehow 720 will be the top dog and PS4 will be doomed! stupid people is stupid!
Good Idea. I think I should write one for my site and post it here lol.
like ps, ps2, ps3 ? XD
"PS3 isn't doing bad at all. All 3 are doing well when it comes to sales (especially Wii)"
..ps3 sold more than wii and 360 each years now..but most important, has the best exclusives since 2008, so, it's doing really good (probably not in last place now)
Sony on the other hand is in last place but they won over alot of gamers with their exclusives and dedication to the core.
MS might have sony beat with their online features and UI but once the ps4 comes out. Sony will fix all the negatives the PS3 has and make it better. It just needs to have an affordable price.
What if MS fixes all the negatives the 360 had for the 720?
The only reason it stands a chance of failing is because the American press will try to 'make' it happen.
You've been HERE is the key word in that statement. Being here on N4G and drawing conclusions from stories that users here submit and approve from blog sites that state their opinion doesn't represent the American media trying to ruin Sony.
"And with the IGN and Gamespot App now appearing on the 360, I'd suggest that misinformation is about to get dirty coming up to Christmas"
*sigh* Are you suggesting that IGN and Gamespot are going to team up against Sony? This is why a lot of us on here shake our heads at comments with this conspiracy some of you try to keep alive.
What's worse is this "opinion piece" doesn't even make an attempt to back up it's title. "Why the PS4 will fail! We actually don't know and aren't even going to discuss it, but got your attention, didn't we!"
Pathetic. Who approved this garbage? This site needs to be blacklisted. If we can't stop idiots from approving this nonsense, at least we can get the quality filter to weed this crap out. Click under the link to the story to vote this site down.
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Writers who wrote off the ps3 and refused to admit they were wrong finally have something new to write about and why Sony will again "fail".
I love speculation. I love lack of knowledge.
I honestly wonder where the people who write these things get their info. I have zero problem with opinion pieces. youre allowed to have your opinion on which system is better, but once you start trying to justify that opinion with incorrect facts you begin to look like a fanboy or just a very very poor journalist.
A faster bluray drive
Price under $400 mst likely $349
Free online play with cross game chat
Option for psn:plus
And exclusives that no other publisher can match and that's a fact not opinion
So yeh they will fail such a stupid article. Why since wiiu announcement of a release date have we seen Sony fail and ps4 will fail articles while nothing about xbox720? Maybe Xbox defense force and Nintendo fan girls are putting their combined efforts against the forces of darkside lol
If there is no Sony in gaming than I rather quit gaming because cares about selling kinect games than actual core gamer titles and Nintendo have a long long history of not getting 3rd party support.
Keep hating on Sony and they will kee releasing AAA exclusive that no ther console maker can deliver
Last of us
Beyond 2 souls
And guess what games like ico,sotc,ratchet,jack etc, most ther publishers wouldn't even waste their time on those IP yet Sony not only made those but now ratchet and sly have titles this gen.
Once psn gets cross game chat than what does xblive have that's so worth paying for when that 60 bucks can go towards buying a brand new game
Stop haing enjoy games and be a gamer
So maybe I am wrong for saying that but maybe I over the past 15-20 years Sony has delivered so in a way I feel a comfort level and now in a way know what kind of software support there will be for their systems. So if they are out of gaming business which I don't think they are than I am out too or most likely will move to of gaming
This article is truly horrible. Maybe the title was meant to say "Why the PS3 and PS Vita are failures" as I did not see any collective argument against the PS4. Just a "Microsoft did everything right, I have to say Nintendo won, and Sony sucks" opinion. Let's break down the words...
"PS4" - Mentioned once in intro. I think even middle school English students know that if you write an article about something, it should be mentioned in more places than just the introduction paragraph.
"PS3" - 8 times. So what is this article about? The PS3 or the PS4?
"Microsoft" - 7 times. How do you write an article about Sony and almost mention Microsoft more? I'm sorry, but no matter what your points are, I throw them out the window as soon as I see this biased take on a situation.
Now that I have destroyed your writing skills, I shall now debate you, which you do not deserve. So the PS4 is doomed, and you think it is strictly due to the fact that Sony "failed" with the PS3. If that were the case, then I guess the 360 should have failed because the xbox came into last gen late and never sold as many as the PS2. Or did things turn out differently? No arguing that Sony went retarded this round. I get it. However, you cannot make simple judgement calls based solely on the past. The past is the past, let it go. No one gets anywhere i life holding on to high school and wishing for the good ole days, do they? No, they move on with a new plan in life and a new goal. This is what Sony will do. No one knows if it will work out, especially you, and we will have to wait to see.
Microsoft's 360 was a cheaper entry. That is true. Let's consider this generation an investment. It is fitting since we do invest not only our money, but several countless hours of our life to our consoles. So, you want to spend as much time doing something you like and as little money as possible while doing it. You can easily be fooled by a lower purchase price, however. If you wanted to compare the two products down the road and which one would save you the most money you would see that going the Microsoft route was not the most economic. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that a couple hundred dollar difference in purchase price won't mean anything down the road when you have shelled out $50 - $60 a year for a mandatory subscription. I won't even get into the fact about how much money you had to spend just watch HD movies and play on wifi back in the day. Your point is weak and not at all does it show why the PS4 is doomed. If you wanted to argue the value for the money point, then fine. However, price alone in the past is not a valid point for predicting the future, nor was your opinion a very good one.
PS Vita and PSP comparisons are a dumb thing to talk about when making such a statement as why the PS4 is doomed. I am surprised this article was even published, to be frank.
Second to lastly, Sony mentioning they will support the PS3 for some more time does not doom the PS4. What are you proposing? Sony stick up the middle finger to everyone they convinced to buy their product and suddenly stop service like Microsoft did? I do not know why there wasn't more outrage against Microsoft when they did this, but if Sony copied this move, they would get crucified. You should never own a business, my friend. Free advice, take it.
Finally, don't wrap up an opinion piece on the PS4 with a question to your audience about the PS3 and PS Vita. It's just not a linear thought process. "Reason's why I think pizza are great." Followed by, "So, what is your favorite brand of cereal?" Sounds psychotic and like I fight myself in my head when I think, no? Okay, I am done with you. Care to post a revision?
"Why the PS4 will succeed" -Just so we have both sides of the story
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Lifetime sales in millions
Nintendo---62
Sega--- 13
Super Nintendo--- 49
Sega Genesis--- 40
Playstation--- 102
Nintendo 64--- 33
Sega Saturn--- 9
PS2--- 154
Gamecube--- 21
Xbox--- 24
Dreamcast--- 10
Wii--- 96
PS3---64
X360---67
nuff said...
How can it fail when I know for sure I am buying 2 of them! I think next gen is going to be absolutely amazing. We are stretching it here, so I can imagine what it's going to look like with new technology. Look at what Kojima did with Metal Gear and what Naughty Dog is doing with Last of Us. Simply astonishing. Getting goosebumps already. This time I hope Sony hits a respectable price point and not wait a full year to launch. I am sure they learned their lesson
To the author, well man, when i think of xbox i see Kinect, pay2play, and stale 1st party support at best..
Sony has(hopefully)learnt alot this gen on how they should make the hardware work for next.
The futures bright for the PS4, and i wounder what theyl do with Gaikai aswell.
Hey go into the kitchen, look under the kitchen sink and grab the moth balls, the Clorox bleach, and some SOS pads or texture. The go grab whatever you can find in the medicine cabinet and make yourself a delicious cocktail. Oh and for even better enjoyment lock yourself in a car with with carbon monoxide filtering throughall the air vents. Trust me you'd love it :)
Exactly. That's like saying Angry Birds is better than AAA console games because it sells more. Which is far from true. That's only a small part of what matters. More sells help with success but so does overall quality and dedicated user base for that game as the same goes for a console. The more future proof the better not just some controller with a screen and a little more power than a a current gen console.
For next gen you want the future. Amazing graphics, better exclusives, amazing AI, crazy physics, something special you didn't expect and that WOW factor as you open it up and play it for the first time.
How will the WiiU hold up over time? Your talking years and years with just a little better graphics. At launch it will be great but it will start showing age very quickly down the road and I think the next Xbox and PS4 will hold down the gaming community way better in the long run.
Didn't expect that...
WHO APPROVES THIS SHIT?!
Almost ashamed I gave this article a hit. Do not approve this N4G.
Things aren't factual in this article. The Wii was released last for one. But much of this is opinion based sugared with truth. No question Sony really took a licking this gen. And vita sales are dreamcast territory. But I feel sony's biggest asset in prior gens were third party exclusivity. Once they lost that its been a rocky road.
Why aren't articles like these banned?? Why "x" machine will fail. I don't give a damn why some lowlife want's a video gaming system to fail. Obviously those aren't gamers and should not be allowed to write articles about gaming.
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"I don't give a damn why some lowlife want's a video gaming system to fail."
No one wants it to fail. The "opinion article" looks at past figures and what is going on with this gen and moving into next gen...
Like Arius Dion writes
sony's biggest asset in prior gens were third party exclusivity. Once they lost that its been a rocky road.
I totally agree with that.... Personally I own all the consoles so not really loyal to any, I for one am looking forward to what is coming next.... Bring on Next Gen I say
So looking at the 'past figures', the PS4 will in fact sell well. The original xbox didn't sell as much as PS2, the 360 sold well.
The PS3 hasn't sold as many as 360/wii, which means the PS4 will do well.
Judging by what you've/author wrote, ^^^^^^^^^ that is correct (though we know, sales are unpredictable).
Sales are based on what Sony are offering now. PS4 is a clean slate, a completely revamped online network, operating system, a really enticing good value subscription service and a continued, unique dedication to providing new games, IPs and other support. That will sure as hell keep fans and gamers interested. Heck, it won't have a $599 price tag either, you can be sure of that.
If it were to fail, what would make it so is the continued media bias that will be there from Day Zero, corrupting minds of the ignorant with tales that Sony is not worth investing in nor has games.
After reading just the title there is no need to give a single hit to your site.
Maybe next time word it better. But I'll be sure to look out for your site and not visit it at all.
Good luck with your life!!
Still, despite those points, we know basically nothing of Sony's 4th home console. So, at best, this is an article that uses very little sense, but mainly serves to blow lots of smoke. I wouldn't give it much thought, otherwise.
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on with physical media, and I don't think you can get all 3 to consolidate on that idea.
Also, what if a new company decides to jump in and have physical media?
Not only would retail respond positively to whatever said company keeps disks for them to sell, but consumers would respond positively as well. And if consumers want it, then they sell it. That's how business tends to work.
Each console has sold well and some still continue because of support from sony and devs.
Sony have inspired us all by bringing something new (Games Example Heavy rain, Little big planet and new technology from being first to have bluetooth technology to self upgradable HDD's Blue ray.
Sony just the name over the years have made a HUGE fan base alone.
Sony even thoe are a buisness but they are for the gamers the fans the people and they do give back in some way or another.
Why the ps4 will fail.......... LOL
This is ridiculous. Why dont we wait at least until we know anything about the system?