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Submitted by john2 661d ago | article

Clueless Analyst Michael Pachter believes that "most PC's are not as powerful as a PS3"

DSOGaming writes: "It's really a shame that there are analysts such Michael Pachter out there that can affect the gaming industry. It's not because some might disagree with his opinions, but because this analyst is clueless and we are really puzzled why GameTrailers is 'promoting' this analyst. After countless of wrong assumptions for a huge number of topics, Pachter stated in his Pack Attack! show that gamers won't get any good games because they whined too much about ME3 and that no one out there has a PC as powerful as a PS3. Wait what?" (Michael Pachter, PC, PS3)

Update Update: This article is based on Pachter's old comment. That's why it's also an article and not a News story. Here is the quote for those interested in finding it. If mods believe that this article shouldn't be here, feel free to fail it.

"That comment from Pachter’s twitter account – about PC gaming – was quite old (Pach Attack Episode 108 was the episode where Pachter addressed it, suggesting that ‘most’ PCs are not as powerful as PS3) but was brought to our attention by our reader Jean. Pachter explained that he meant “most” and that he is aware that a few have a PC more powerful than a PS3."

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dedicatedtogamers  +   661d ago
Hurr hurr. My PC can run circles around a PS3, 360, and Wii's combined power. And my PC isn't even considered top-tier as far as PCs go.

8-core AMD processor, 2 GB ATI Radeon card, 16 gigs of RAM (okay, that IS a bit overkill), and a RAID0 dual SSD. There are PCs much more powerful than mine.
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reynod  +   661d ago
Lol forget my desktop PC, My 3 year old laptop with the following specs:

2.4ghz dual core cpu (I5)
HD 5870M GPU
4 gigs ram

Takes PS3 or the Xbox 360 to the cleaners lol. Mind you laptop graphics are much weaker than the desktop counterpart.

When i am traveling i have all my games on my laptop (thx Steam, no need to carry around disks). Just plug the laptop onto any HDMI TV and it transforms into a supercharged console, play with any controller of choice DS3, Xbox controller, Wii controller lol.

Hell with the sort of specs being rumored for the next consoles i dont think even they will be able to beat my Desktop PC.
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iamnsuperman  +   661d ago
I have watched the video twice again and he doesn't make any reference to this. I might have missed it but at the moment this article is made up bull. Please source exactly where you think you heard this (at the author) because I couldn't find it
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darthv72  +   661d ago
Guess i'm the exception here
my pc won't out perform the ps3. Wii maybe but not the 360 and certainly not the PS3.

In fact, that is why I do my gaming on a console and not a PC. Console represents a low cost investment for entertainment where as I'd have to sink $$$$ into a real gaming PC.

No disrespect to those who have one but to me...it's just not worth it.
ChickeyCantor  +   661d ago
@Darth,

PC games usually cost less. Not to mention PC's do more than gaming.

Your investment would be far better. The only thing that's a con is that you need a certain console to play a certain exclusive.

Hook it up to a TV and you have yourself a far better entertainment center than the Ps3/360 will ever be.
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nix  +   661d ago
for future commenters,

Please read the update before commenting blindly people....
darthv72  +   661d ago
@sidar
yeah i know. i had been a PC gamer for quite some time. Especially back in the half life days. Played my fair share of things like counter strike and eventually half life 2.

The idea of building an even more up to date PC is there. I somehow just prefer console gaming. Maybe its the fact that my copy of a game will run exactly the same as the other guys who i would play against online.

Not to say that the PC has an unfair advantage but there are so many variables to take into consideration when building a gaming pc. you just dont have that when buying a PS3 or 360. aside from the various games and amenities of course.

Am i missing out on the highest possible visuals for a game like Crysis...? Sure. does it really matter if that isnt the game i play. Nope. I can tell you that when i was into half Life 2 on the PC it was when having a Radeon 9800Pro was the in thing. Obviously that is an old card by today's standards but it really was a great card.

I still have it in another PC but in my more 'current' one I have a 7900GS and yeah...it too is old but with the constant turn around on PC hardware it isnt cost effective (for me anyway) to try and stay ahead of the curve. Especially when you don't know where that curve is going.

My PC already is doing more than my console when it comes to non gaming related things. I dont need a bleeding edge gpu to surf the web or do my banking.

Im content with the console side and have been since the days of Pong. Its just something about the simplicity of just turning on the system to play a game and turning it off when you are done. No having to deal with if the PC will boot or get hung up on something trivial.

Like i said before. No disrespect to those who have a gaming PC. i used to be one of you, i just chose a different path now.
awi5951  +   661d ago
Yeah my pc is mid range now i have 3 6870's with 16 gigs of ram and AMD 1100T overclocked to 3.9gigs ( i dont have the power to run 4gigs)
360 man  +   661d ago
@ awi5951

im sorry but 3 6870s in crossfire is not mid range. thats still definately an enthusiast pc setup. i have a amd 2 phenom 965 quadcore. 12 gigs of ram and a single radeon 5850. with 2TB hard drive

that is mid range.
CaptCalvin  +   660d ago
@darthv72
Thing is, there really isn't a cure to stay ahead of in terms of PC gaming. Most games these days are multiplats ported over from the consoles. $40 for an HD4850 or a 9800GT or such will let you play these games maxed out no problem, or at least a couple of notches ahead of the graphics settings the consoles would use.
CaptCalvin  +   660d ago
^Just realized the typo. I meant "curve" lol!
pixelsword  +   660d ago
If Patcher is so "clueless" why make an article about him?

Why quote him at all?

Why interview him?

Either he's clueless and don't touch him anymore, or he's not and take everything he says with respect; don't interview and talk to him and then call him names like "clueless"; it just makes the interviewer looks stupid, not Patcher. Patcher is getting a check for his statements, he's not getting a check for talking to people trying to get hits off of his statements.
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MaxXAttaxX  +   660d ago
The MAJORITY of PCs out there are weaker than the PS3
That's what he obviously meant.

Not everyone has high end PCs.
Irishguy95  +   661d ago
Core 2 Quad @ 2.4GHz
3GB Ram
720MB(roughly) 8800Gtx

Mine can also run rings around a Ps3/360 etc.

Mine is not powerful// It's old, outdated tech

How do I know it can run rings? Multiplats. Simple as that, Multiplats run/look better on it than on Ps3/360. Mass effect 3 looks way better, the FPS is very high etc Skyrim too and a host of other games

Patcher is quite stupid, 2007 ~ When mid - high tier gaming Pc's Outperformed the consoles. In 2005 and 6, Very high tier Pc's(multiple Gpus) outperformed the consoles too.
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telekeneticmantis  +   661d ago
But do you have games??
Honestly, the PC elitists are misguided. You guys should be focused on the games you guys miss out on every year that consoles get. I respect the power, and hope Consoles adapt that type of upgradable system philosophy, but PC's are only attractive to me when they have a great game that no other console has, which is rare.

@T900
Every Year I see PC Elitist fighting for some game to be pprted late to their system of choice, That's proof enough to me, that PC elitists only focus is on power. Most of you are shooter fanatics, and have nothing to do with the MMO/RTS crowd.

Speaking of which, that is basically what the PC is made up of MMO's RTS' Shooters. Simulators?(why even mention that) Most devs put their focus on Consoles, what was the last game of the Year that was PC exclusive? Most of the time they don't even have a game nominated for GOTY.

Complex is a negative if it the game lacks intuitiveness. Lets take Wow for example, MMO's like wow are becoming prehistoric, due to it's lack of intuitive gameplay. MMO devs are now trying to develope MMO's where actions play out like they are supposed to, instead of "LEGO toy" looking characters moving their arms and points poping up, now they want MMO's to play out like God Of War, with realistic, or logical gameplay.
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T900  +   661d ago
Lol we have more games and more verity than any console out there.

You can knock the Wii out of the list or any nintendo console for that matter because we can emulate it.

We have most of the Xbox 360 console exclusives.

Its only PS3 which has some Sony funded games that dont make it to the PC, however if you look at any console gaming line up all you get is:

Shooter, Shooter, rpg, Shooter, third person shooter, Shooter, Platformer, Shooter, rpg, Racer, Shooter, Third person shooter.

Console gaming has become very casual, with most focus toward the wider audience.

PC on the other hand looks like this:

Shooter, RTS, MMO, Racer, Moba, Simulator, RPG etc

Hence while PC doesnt have some of the console exclusives, it does feature those genres in some way or the other. However consoles have no reply to the vast number of Genres the PC caters to.

Most games released on console are just to generic kid friendly, Try picking up a game like dota 2 on the PC, its so darn complex you wont find anything like it on console.
DarthZoolu  +   661d ago
Pc gamers have access to much more content. We get mods, which in many cases take games to the stars and adds hours and hours of life to many games. My Skyrim bashes all both console versions and is fine tuned to what I like. Also many people have game systems and computers if we put those two costs into our one PC is really not that much more expensive. Plus PCs excel in RTS, FPS, & RPGs not to mention MMOs. a Camaro is a nice car but it's not a Ferrari. Get it?
insomnium2  +   661d ago
"Its only PS3 which has some Sony funded games that dont make it to the PC"

This pretty much explains everything. I would love to have a great PC but since I don't have that much time to spend on gaming (and I lack the skills with computers) PS3 is by far the best for me.
bumnut  +   661d ago
Actually its console owners that miss out on games. PC has a much greater number/variety of games.
RAYMEISTER  +   661d ago
We do have the games and for alot less. The question should be do u have the games? FPS, RTS, much better on PC. Xbox 360 controller available if u need it.
telekeneticmantis  +   661d ago
DarthZoolu
Mods are cool, they also turn games into crap sometimes. Like I said before, it's all about the games, you get, and PC's lack games every year, and beg devs to get them late.

Also they barely ever have game of the year Candidates.

A pwerful engine with only 3 wheels.
Blues Cowboy  +   661d ago
No, no no. The PC has a deeper breadth and wider variety of games than any console on the market, both in terms of massive AAA exclusives, exquisite indie gems and everything in between. Cheaper.

I own both a PS3 and Xbox 360 and still use them for exclusives - and I won't try and pretend that I don't find the console experience much more convenient. But despite having to update the odd driver and upgrade every once in a while, my PC has pride of place.
dedicatedtogamers  +   661d ago
If there are no games on PC that attract you, that's a-ok.

But PC has SO many exclusives. Notice how DayZ is the hot name everyone is talking about? That's is a MOD. When Witcher 2 hit 360 console gamers made such a huge deal out of it, but both Witcher games have been on PC for years. Minecraft? Metro 2033? On PC first.

And of course, you're neglecting the fact that on a current PC, I can play ANY PC game at ANY time, whereas on console the classics are handed out at a snail's-pace.
ChickeyCantor  +   661d ago
" That's proof enough to me, that PC elitists only focus is on power."

It's console people keeping the power thread going(Ps3 vs 360 and soon vs WiiU). It's the PC crowd laughing at them.

PC gamers are not without games. And if they truly want to play a console game. They get a console. It's really not that black and white as you make it out to be.
aquamala  +   661d ago
Most games this gen are multi plat, look at this holiday season, Dishonored, XCOM, AC3, Black Ops 2, Far Cry 3, Borderlands 2, Sleeping Dogs, Hitman . All on pc and run at higher resolution and look far better.
It's funny how pc has more platformers than consoles now do to the rich indie gaming environment it creates..

Also since cod sells like crap on pc we get this
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
and you get 95% cod clones and other shooters who implement cod like features.

Horror is about dead on consoles, Splinter cell is not about stealth any more and now only MGS remain(and might come to pc), console have only one hardcore racing sim(on ps3) while pc has at least 3 coming, fighting games are sh!t that make you buy on disk dlc, pc has 2 open world survival zmobies game(day z, war z) and xbox has one(which looks casual in comparison), sports games are better on console yes, shooter? lol pc wins, strategy basically pc only, Name a great mech game on console?.... Pc gamer get this
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

only console worth having imo is sony's console since they for core gamers but still pc is much more than a power race & minecraft sold 7 million on pc.

Also you can better your ass red dead sequel will be on pc.

Also..
Planetside 2 is sony's first next gen shooter pc only..
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awi5951  +   661d ago
I have over 50 games on steam and thats just on steam. I havent even played most of them yet lol. And i only payed like 9 bucks for them during steam sales and consoles had to pay 60 bucks for the same game lol.
zebramocha  +   661d ago
You're right,most Pcs and laptop out compete the ps360 but consoles all have standard hardware and to access the hardware for a dev is easier,to kind if make a point ,does anyone remember the nvidia medusa demo?its rendering method is probably more advance compared to console games but the character models don't look any better than gow 3.
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SilentNegotiator  +   661d ago
If he had said "The average computer owner does not have a computer with as powerful of a GPU as the HD consoles" he MIGHT have had some sort of point.

But anyway, didn't he say this like 2 years ago also? I'm thinking that GT is enjoying getting the hits whenever Pachter says something idiotic....probably asked him to say it again.
adorie  +   661d ago
Ah. You went with Bulldozer? /trollface
chukamachine  +   661d ago
ALot of people's pc's even now are not as powerful, because alot of people don't buy expensive gpu's. The ones that come inside the pc are useless for gaming.

Myself i have a

i5 2500k @4.5ghz
6870 1gb
8gb kingston ram

Without a decent gpu, gaming isn't an option.
Bowzabub  +   661d ago
Yes.. Your PC. Now let's talk about the billion that don't.
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Godmars290  +   661d ago
All this man has to do is sit in an office, go to lunches with other people who sit in offices, make stuff up which doesn't have to be the least bit correct, present it to people who don't understand it, and collect a paycheck.

How do you mess that up so badly by bringing attention to yourself, show how often you get things wrong and overall that you have no understanding about what you're talking about?

@guitarded77:
I KNOW, RIGHT?!
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guitarded77  +   661d ago
I know... he's the luckiest bastard on earth. I want his job so bad.

Also: I didn't see an actual quote in the article, so I'm giving Pachter the benefit of the doubt until I see an actual quote. This is just tabloid nonsense.
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PS3Freak  +   661d ago
That's an unbelievably perfect description of an analyst.

Well done.
remanutd55  +   661d ago
for $299.99?
T900  +   661d ago
The reason why the "$299.99" statement doesn't work in favor of consoles is because:

At 299usd you are buying significantly old tech, which will cost you more per game to play. So yea if you only intend to buy 4-5 games for the console then yes console is cheaper.

However the tables quickly turn if you are a real gamer and would like to play many games a year. When every game bought on PC is cheaper, PC quickly becomes the cheapest platform to game on.

A PC that runs circles around a console can be built for 500usd, thats not a whole lot more expensive.
Myze  +   661d ago
Sadly, it seems that PC games (multi-plat ones, anyway) are starting to cost the standard console price of $59.99. However, PC games do tend to have more deals and drop in price more quickly (usually because they don't sell quite as well).

Unless you are pirating games (which, granted, is far easier on PC), the cost-per-game argument is only semi-valid.
awi5951  +   661d ago
Just wait a month after launch games that are 60 on pc dont survive that long unless it's a EA game. Even then they have to give up because PC players know better than to buy those 60 dollar games at launch. Crysis 2 for example i didnt buy it at 60 dollars i waited 2 months and got it at 29 dollars.
Cajun Chicken  +   661d ago
That's it Gametrailers. You can void his contact now.
ventilator  +   661d ago
cmon he's right most people buy pc's for internet,music,video they have a shitty gpu/cpu at least the people i know, not everybody has a 580, 8-core rig
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T900  +   661d ago
Thats because PCs are very flexible machines:

want to:

Play games - done
Work - done
Edit videos - done
Surf the Web - done

Since PCs can be used for multiple tasks and not everyone plays games sure you will see many PCs that do not feature a discrete GPU at all. However check stats on Steam there are millions of people owning DX10 - DX11 capable GPUs.

If not many people bought those GPUs then Nvidia and AMD wouldnt waste the resources making new GPUs every year.
TomSawyer187  +   661d ago
Trolling right? I really hope you're trolling. Don't need a 580 8-core rig to run circles around this gen.
MadMen  +   661d ago
I think he means at 249.99 there isnt.

I agree with him on that point.
dedicatedtogamers  +   661d ago
For $249.99 you can get both a new graphics card and a bit of extra RAM that would make your PC outclass any console.

That's the problem: console gamers think that every time a PC gamer upgrades, they upgrade their entire PC and spend $1500+ (admittedly, some PC gamers do). For me, I've spent LESS on PC gaming hardware over the last 6 years than I've spent on console hardware.
InTheLab  +   661d ago
Madmen's point stands. You can not simply slap a gpu and memory into any pc and call it a day. Particularly older PCs. That may be the case once you've built or purchased a suitable rig, but you can't just crack open any PC and fill it with upgrades.
dedicatedtogamers  +   661d ago
@ InTheLab

Yes, you cannot simply slap a GPU and memory into a PC and call it a day. For instance, you can't magically make a Pentium 4 PC into a modern gaming monster. However, a P4 is over 10 years old.

But at least the option is there. When PS3 came out, it's not like I had the option to upgrade my PS2. I had to start fresh. On the other hand, when it came time for me to upgrade my PC, there were a number of things I didn't need to buy. I bought the parts I needed. And a PC rig from even 3 years ago can be easily made to outclass consoles for less than $300.
ZBlacktt  +   661d ago
You SO miss the point. That's $249 TOTAL as is out of the box. Nice try though. That's a Cell, 1080p, Blu-Ray machine.
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NYC_Gamer  +   661d ago
Wow,one of the dumbest comments he ever made.
uso  +   661d ago
I love my pc and play a lot of games in steam, but correct me if I'm wrong but the Cell is still better than the latest Intel cpus. Or am I wrong?

I'm not saying that the PS3 is more powerful than the PC but the CELL CPU is.
dedicatedtogamers  +   661d ago
Currently, AMD has an 8-core processor and Intel has a 4-core something. Both are significantly more powerful than TEH CELL, but that's not saying much, considering that CELL is 6 years old.
NoFanboyRequired  +   661d ago
Pretty sure the 8 core i7 in my laptop outclasses the cell.

3.6ghz with turbo bost is a lot. Although all around, the 360 and ps3 are more powerful (laptop uses intel HD 4000 graphics) than my laptop.

Thing surprised me though playing cod 4, css, half life 2, portal 2 and gotham city impostors maxed out without a damn gpu lol.
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Rinkuchal  +   660d ago
@NoFanboyRequired
haven't heard of an 8-core i7 for laptops, what's the model number?

are you sure it's 8 actual cores or you just have hyperthreading turned on?

anyway, Pachter is only partially correct, now if he specified 'most game' PCs, there would be trouble...
tee_bag242  +   660d ago
8 cores in a laptop right now is only hyperthreading. I just got a AW laptop for gaming and this is definitely the case.
The latest i7 Ivy bridges are 4 cores or 8 theoretical CPU's (hyperthreaded).

Regardless, most modern and semi modern CPU's are sitting on their a$$ in 90% of games, GPU's is still usually the bottleneck.
Columbo  +   661d ago
I just watched the whole video linked in the post and couldn't find the quote in question. Someone please tell me what time in the video it is at so I don't have to read that site's worthless dribble ("But you already know that, unless of course you’re a fanboy which brings the question – is Pachter a Sony fanboy?"). Provide some context next time instead of pulling a quote out of thin air.
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CanadianTurtle  +   661d ago
That's kind of sad....

I wonder if his career is over after all the developers read this. So long Pach-attack.
one2thr  +   661d ago
i5-2500
Gtx 560
16gb ram

More powerful than a PS3?, yes..
But would it be as powerful as it is, if I only spent $250 on it?, heck no...
Unless, I only wanted Ram, and a GPU... Then I wouldnt have a case, or a motherboard to put those in or a psu and cpu to power it...
More powerful yes ,but not at $250 bucks it ain't...
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Ares84HU  +   661d ago
Michael Pachter........

No need to say more.
ApolloTheBoss  +   661d ago
Why is he in the gaming industry to begin with? He obviously doesn't know what he's talking about.
SandwichHammock  +   661d ago
Look at all the panty twisting going on here, making people proclaim what they have and how its teh bests.

I have watched this video and now have watched it a second time, and I have also to see this statement hence anything beyond this point is nil.
john2  +   661d ago
And why haven't you read the article (which provides the places where that comment was and how it was addressed later on) and went over to watch the latest episode of Pack Attack? This is not a news story, it's an article. So there must be something in that article that explains it, right?
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SandwichHammock  +   661d ago
Sir, I have read your article, but more importantly given you the hit, you're welcome. Pretty presumptuous to think I wouldn't read an article just because it sits behind a Click Past ad.

The article pulls meaning out of what Pachter says with totally forgetting what Pachter's profession is or how it works. Although you do you use the word "analyst". I'm not trying to disprove you or start an argument, I just think you fail you see from his side, aside from whatever comes out of his mouth, or assumed fingertips.

It also doesn't help your game journalist/blogster/whatever credibility to question if "Pachter is a PS3 fanboy?". Really dude?
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john2  +   661d ago
@SandwichHammock: appologies if that comment seemed aggresive man, it wasn't. It's just that the article had information suggesting that the comment was not on the latest episode, and your comment obviously puzzled me. About the question though, well, those who will have an issue with it will be fanboys. Let me explain though before hammering me:

This question has - obviously - two answers: Yes and No (and perhaps a Maybe). Naturally, some will go with the first one while others with the second. If you are not a fanboy, then you probably won't care about the answer to such a question (especially when someone is simply making a question and is not providing an answer to it). In other words, this question is addressed to the reader, and he should decide for himself. In addition, the article does not state that Pachter is a fanboy. Just that he's wrong.
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YoungPlex  +   661d ago
Wow... Clueless I swear! This guy is always good for a laugh. I can't believe this guy is employed, he has such a narrow view of what reality is. Oh well, to each his own...
Dlacy13g  +   661d ago
LOL talk about clueless.. this writer is clueless. He sights kickstarter as some showing of PC gaming dollars not drying up. Dude get a clue.. PC gaming beyond WOW has next to NO advertising dollars from publishers. Kickstarter is privately funded games for indie devs for the most part. The money generated there is dwarfed by the money generated by the big publishers.

I have no doubts that all the people on this thread have PC's that are more powerful than a PS3. This is a site that is visited by heavy gaming enthusiasts. OF COURSE the majority here have powerful PC's. N4G =/= the general population. N4G is about the size of a zit on an ass in comparison.

As for the Doctors comments and the complainers of the ME3 ending. I fully believe the Doctors left in direct response to that whole mess. One of them leaving could have been coincidence but both leaving together on the heels of that shit storm? Nope...they were tired of the bullsh*t and together said f*ck it. If you are leaving I am leaving cause this ain't worth it.
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topekomsi  +   661d ago
PC is an ever evolving monster. Consoles can't be expected to maintain a 10yr life cycle and compete with pc, unless someday consoles are hardware upgradable. In which case you just as well have a PC.
OmniSlashPT  +   661d ago
So your pc is 10 years old and plays this gen games? Seems legit
topekomsi  +   661d ago
Well thats just silly, this gen of consoles isn't yet 10yrs old. I would bet that a 6 yr old PC can out perform this gen consoles (some or all games for the consoles were/are made on pc).
NoFanboyRequired  +   661d ago
Topekomsi.
Okay, lets see a pc from 2005 with the same specs as a console, run games now. Oh wait, it wouldnt even manage to turn on with only 512mb of ram.

People forget to realise that consoles dont need "teh power" that pcs need to keep up.
Tonester925  +   661d ago
lol at the people who think what ever choice of gaming machine you play on describes you as a person in society. This is just as bad as Apple vs Android.

Ignorant.

Just play the damn games and shut up
Saturne3  +   661d ago
This is ancient news.
dogoodmatters  +   660d ago
Bad journalism is bad journalism. This should have been failed before/after the update.
wanderson75  +   661d ago
This guy is basing his article on a show that was aired in March of 2010. The Core i-Series processors from Intel were just getting their legs then. So Pachter wasn't far off the mark - TWO YEARS AGO!

This guy is writing crap just to get you wound up and trolling for hits. I'm not even sure how it got through the approval chain.
john2  +   661d ago
Update on the title so mods can decide what to do.

As for Pachter's statements, you do realize that even an old quad-core (not from the core i-series) with a GTX8800 (which was released back in 2006) are more powerful than PS3 and X360, right? And that particular card sold like hot-cakes, as it was a hit card for Nvidia. Not even counting the other cards that were released after it the next four years
dogoodmatters  +   660d ago
It would have been failed if it was a legitimate piece without Pachter's name and another source on it.
This is clearly an example of terrible journalism, and the piece should have been failed.
MrDead  +   661d ago
The perfect story for N4G. This is like kiddie catnip, one sniff and watch em go nuts.
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mcarlie  +   661d ago
Most PCs in use are either made for office/casual usage or are laptops. I don't see what so ridiculous about his claim.
Bladesfist  +   661d ago
AMD 8150 (8 core)
GTX 660Ti
8GB RAM

Sorry pachter but some of us do.
Pain_Killer  +   661d ago
Not some of us, actually most of us now have a rig capable to outperform the consoles and it doesn't require you to spend $1000+ either.

It was rumored that the PS4 would feature an AMD APU with 6670 levels iGP.

You know what? We got a piledriver APU on the PC which costs $139.99 and has a HD 7660D chip. If you want more performance than a discrete graphics solution such as the GTX 650 Ti or HD 7850 both of which cost $149.99 can last you a while.

DDR3 memory is super cheap and 8GB rams can easily be bought for $49.99 from amazon/newegg. Sure HDD prices had gone high due to the floods in thailand but they are dropping again and an SandForce SSD 120 GB under $120 would load your apps faster than anything available.

PC Gamers and PC Enthusiasts are two different people. Gamers want longevity while Enthusiasts want the best performance available and believe me im not rich at all, i actually am a news editior on a tech site and that's where im earning from but my enthusiasm can't stop me from buying new hardware and games for the PC.
OmniSlashPT  +   661d ago
I play games, not consoles. And console games have been far superior to pc exclusives. Even the best looking games of the past few years have been console exclusives. How can you explain that? Devs are superior, not the hardware.
cj1pate101  +   661d ago
No devs have more money to throw at console kiddies like you. O and those precious exclusives which ones are we talking about? btw you do realize in 3 years max I can dl all these precious exclusive onto an emulator if I must play them. By that time most ps4 will be old again. So whats the point of buying a crap jap system any way. I hate fan boys. My ps4 burnt out the first year I had it. 600 dollar 60 gig gen 1 yea sony never ceases to amaze me.
aquamala  +   661d ago
What console game looks better than bf3 or witcher 2 on pc?

And yes I have a ps3 too.
Pain_Killer  +   661d ago
Crysis 3 with NVIDIA 3D Steroscopic and Tessllation? Only PC

Borderlands 2 with PhysX? Only PC

Skyrim with its on modding community with over 300,000 mods? Only PC

HAWKEN, Mechwarrior Online, Warface AAA F2P Titles with DX 11? Only PC

In game currency systems in TF2, WOW, Diablo III? Only PC

Flagship of the RTS Genre? Only PC

Over $100,000 Cash prizes in E-Gaming events? Only PC

Next Generation Platform = PC
PtRoLLFacE  +   661d ago
sorry but any modern computer desktop or laptop even if it has integrated graphic ship it will be more powerful that both ps3 and 360, am talking about computers released in the pass 2 years, I remember having a laptop with Intel integrated graphic ship it could run mw2&3 at higher resolution with medium and some high setting and it look and run way better that in console
cj1pate101  +   661d ago
True so true.
cj1pate101  +   661d ago
wOW cmon man A ps3 consists of an outdated nvidia single 256 meg card with 512 megs of ram split. My system http://www.newegg.com/Produ... that's 6 cores overclocked to 4.2 ghz liquid cooling. Then http://www.newegg.com/Produ... that's 3 gigs of ddr 5 ram for maxing out any game 1080p tessellation, aa, msaa, fxaa you name it. So can you really compare the cell architecture to 6 cores fully maxed at 4.2 ghz. I mean honestly is this even fair> ? Dont hate because I'm not 7 years outdated video below for the fan boys.

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ALLWRONG  +   661d ago
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