kotaku writes:
Ubisoft released a new trailer for Assassin's Creed III today. In the American version that you'll see below, it looks like Connor killed one American soldier. But in the UK version of the trailer above, it's clear that he's ending the lives of many American revolutionary rebels.
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If there so bothered about Americans getting upset then cut it from the US adverts but keep it in for everywhere else because look whats happened since it was announcmed they've made the game look one sided and pro American.
I mean it's not that hard to edit something like that out.
Still waiting on some gameplay videos of Connor doing some missions for the Red Coats, they say you'll do it but we havent seen a single piece of evidence on it, why say something if you can't show anything to back up your claim.
You know it's funny because when Ubisoft was asked about the marketing they denied they were doing this and they wern't afraid to show footage of Americans being killed in the US and once again there own marketing contradicts there claims.
I always wondered why they made the E3 trailer the way they did, instead of him coming up the middle fighting both Americans and the British he came from the American side and made it look like he was leading them to victory. I don't know why they did this Americans wouldn't of give a crap to be honest as long as they wern't made to look like the bad guys which is happening to the UK and the red coats.
Assassin's Creed is based on the historical figure of Hassan-i Sabbah and his clan, the Hashshashin (the Assassins), the guy who is quoted with the game's main phrase and idea: "nothing is true, everything is permitted".
Anyone with reading skills can see they weren't good guys (neither necessarily bad guys), they were just guns for hire without moral, political or cultural concerns about their jobs.
In the game's fiction the reason they seen so distant from human conflicts as good or bad is because they are engaged in an upper fight over misterious relics and power that could ruin humanity as a whole, not simply paid killers as history kind of points at.
As you can guess, in the series whichever side is winning usually have some of the mystical power in question, so they go after the guys within such organizations that are abusing the power. It has nothing to do with being the good side or bad side, but good or bad people in either side. In fact, I won't be surprised if Assassins are portrayed as an independent side in this war, killing both red and blue coats, while infiltrated in either side.
It's time Americans took a long hard look at it's country and its time that these p-ssy developers making these games grew some balls and stepped up to the plate and told the truth instead of further propagating this illusion that we are some how always justified and blessed by God in every military action. In regards to this game, history proves that Americans at this time would've sooner killed this native American (Connor) then allied with him in any way.
Tell the f-cking truth dev's.
It's really stupid to be made either way. I'm almost positive that Ubisoft will be depicting the Americans as the good guys, and the British as the bad guys (rightfully so, or else they wouldn't be historically accurate.)
So true...Ubisoft shouldn't have to lie, were all grown ups if they think Americans can't handle it then really someone should say something. I mean if I was American and they thought I couldn't handle something like that I would be ticked off, they may aswell call me weak.
@MAJ0R
" I have however seen some Brits that were mad that red coats were being shown killed. "
You have to understand people arn't upset over that, there just ticked off that Ubisoft are lying and are making the game one sided which goes against other AC games, in those games there wasn't a focus on the current war and who was killed it was about the Templars and the Assassins but in AC3 they are focusing on the war too much and the history, I've hardly seen anything Templar related in the marketing. I mean all I've seen is mostly one sided footage and that is what British people are ticked off at.
I mean people keep saying "Well if Ubisoft said they arn't being one sided or he won't get involved in the war then believe them"....sorry but how can I when the next bit of makreting whatever it may be always goes against what they've just said.
Why do people not look at this logicaly
I feel most Americans know this but all there thinking at the end of the day is...
"Phew...least it's not happening to us, least where not being made to look like the bad guys"
I know that's why the Brits are mad, but what can they expect from a game based on revolutionary America? The real problem is that they are being being made the bad guys because they WERE the bad guys... in 1775 of course.
Unless you would prefer being ruled under a monarchy.
Yeah... your mike no question about it
Look I have told you over and over and over, but lets discuss this in a different way
I am going to talk about what assassins creed is in its fundamentals
The entire story of AC has been about the templars and the assassins. Neither side is considered EVIL or GOOD. They both have conflicting motifs in which both sides believe their ideology is best for the world.
This is the core of the story.
Now lets look to history... since you and all the other people complaining about Connor killing red coats, keep forgeting that the american revolution was A CIVIL WAR!
EVERYONE AT THE TIME WAS BRITISH. Why the colonists fought the empire is because they felt like they where being told how to live their lives, and wanted to make their own choices. This was the fundamental beliefs of the founding fathers of America.
Now look back to the context of AC. What is an Assassin most likely to chose?
Also.. if you actually watched the trailer connor says something about who he is.
I KNEW A WORLD OF FREEDOM AND TREMENDOUS SPIRIT... A WORLD THAT WAS TAKEN FROM ME
Yeah, thats right. In all the whining and complaining between American and British people saying Connor is taking sides, everyone forgets he is Native American.
And we all know the british empire expanded everywhere. Africa, India, Canada, America,etc. All of these countries inhabited by natives, were forced to become British colonies. So please tell me something the british did to promote freedom and independance... something the Assassins hold to their code, and makes up their fundamentals.
Please message me about that if you have anything.
Finally, Connor doesn't recieve missions. No assassin in any of the games have ever recieved missions from someone who was not an assassin.
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1) The E3 demo of AC3: CONNOR DID NOT GET THE MISSION FROM THE SOLDIER. HE DID NOT PLAN WITH THEM. HE DID NOT TEAM UP WITH THEM. ALL HE SAID WAS WHERE IS THE TEMPLAR, AND HE WAS ON HIS WAY.
The man Connor killed at E3 was Cylus, a slave driver. That is the reason Connor killed him. Not because "the americans made him do it". It is because Cylus oppresed the people, both native and colonial.
2) The E3 trailer. Connor does not lead them to victory. He ran through the American side because he was in the forests. He did not interact with anyone, he STOLE A HORSE GODAMNIT, AND RODE IT INTO BATTLE TO KILL THE GENERAL WHO WAS A TEMPLAR.
YOUR COMPLAINTS OF HIM COMING INTO THE MIDDLE AND KILLING BOTH BRITS AND COLONIALS IS IDIOTIC.
1) YES... LETS COME IN FROM THE MIDDLE WHEN EVERYONE IS SHOOTING... GREAT PLAN
2) THE BRITISH AND THE COLONIALS WOULD NEVER BE SEEN TOGETHER. ALSO IT WOULD BE FOOLISH FOR TEMPLARS TO WASTE SOLDIERS FOR NO REASON. THIRD, YOU WOULD NEVER SEE COLONIALS AND RED COATS TOGETHER, AS THEY WOULD HAVE ENGAGED IN COMBAT.
...from the internet.
That's almost cute in a child-like way.
when i play this game im killing anyone who gets in my way Americans or British. its just a game. i actually wish an American developer would have the guts to make a game that doesnt paint us in a pretty picture.
problem with an American developer doing this really comes down to sales potential. I am not sure why this is the case but Americans can be quite patriotic (not a bad thing) and the general media really pushes this further so putting America in a bad light will not exactly go down well with the general media and could damage sales from America which is a big region. Americans are unlike the British who are quite reserved and haven't exactly been patriotic (the only recent example we have been patriotic is with the Olympics which has already died down). So I am not expecting it any time soon especially for a new ip.
i hear ya, and to me thats what i can't stand about my own country a lot of the times. i would applaud any american developer who would actually try it.
its high time people in this country stop being scared of the american media; all it does is try to brainwash people out there.
i know one thing when AC3 drops i'll be enjoying the hell out of it; whether its killing Americans, or Brits because its just a damn game.
But still the uk one is probably the best trailer I have seen this year
If this was the other way round and Americans saw nothing but Americans get killed in all of AC3s trailers, gameplay videos, screenshots etc then there would be a huge uproar.
Don't make it seem like you wouldn't care because you would.
Seriously if the shoe was on the other foot it would be exactly the same...don't denie it.
"uh dude its a game set in the american revolution you know where the americans (who were actually British by the way) broke free from the British empire"
<sigh>
Yes but the point is Ubisoft said the whole war wasn't the focus and Connor wouldn't get involved. Yet still they try and give it an pro American vibe so they don't upset Americans, kind of silly if you ask me.
Advertisements and the actual game are two completely different things. Did you ever think maybe they were talking about the actual game when they said Connor would be neutral?
Advertisements of video games rarely do a good job of reflecting the tone or "vibe" as you put it, of the actual game. Just look at all those idiotic gamestop "pre order bonus" trailers, the one for battlefield was terrible, but it didn't mean the game was like what the trailer showed. Advertisements are just made to sell the game, by whatever means possible, so if making a "Merica F*** yeah!!" trailer is the best way to get the most people to buy the game, then it shouldn't matter, so long as the promises they made are kept in the actual game, which we don't know if they are or aren't, which is why I advise people to stop whining like little babies about this until the ACTUAL GAME is out.
Mate I've alreayd said that
"but after this I now understand why they have done it because it won't be like that in the game "
"because it won't be like that in the game"
"in the game"
"whining like little babies "
Hmmm...very mature, next time before you get your panties in a twist read my comment through so you don't miss anything.
I've noticed you like to question peoples maturity when they point out that you're wrong, and claim the other person completely misinterpreted your comment, always with your bullcrap line of "read my comment" or something along those lines.
Either you are absolutely AWFUL at expressing yourself through comments, or you just use those lines as a defense mechanism because you are too immature to admit that you might be wrong, which is the likelier of the two possibilities. With those lines, you can keep saying whatever you want, but if someone calls you out on it, you can simply revert to the "clearly you can't read, you twisted my words" lines so you never have to admit you're wrong.
But hey, it seems to be working for you, you kind of seem like you believe those crap lines you keep spouting out. Good luck living in denial.
What really bugs me is the fact ubi said conner would be fairly neutral and would back & forth from side to side.
Then they go all out with the Merrica' fuck ya videos for the next 5 months.Just the fact that they say one thing and do the opposite is what most people are peeved about.Doesn't just have to be angry brits
The only other thing I have been thinking is that (in the case that Connor is actually fairly neutral as they have said) perhaps later on in more important moments he ends up siding with the British and perhaps they simply don't want to spoil things. But given Ubisoft's recent history with these sort of things (and the fact that they're already trying to hide things from all audiences) I doubt it.
I personally do not like how they have been advertised this game. Instead of showing the game for what it is they have seemed to be playing too much on the pro american heart strings. I would rather have it be about the struggle between the Assassins and the Templars and saving humanity for total destruction (which is really what the game is about)
might not be many patriotic brits but there are tons of patriotic English, welsh, scottish and irish. British doesnt really mean anything any more just a collective term that other countries use.
also the fact that most of the native americans are killed off (nearly a whole race wiped out) he shouldnt be on either but fighting for his people.
It wasn't the kill of red coats, that's called history and its something USA Lacks.
But it was the fact in the 4 previous assassins creed games the storys have all revolved around Huge world changing wars and yet in those 4 games neither side/sides have been shown as being the hero's/ Vilians.
Yet with AC3 all we have seen up and till this point has been ridiculously patriotic towards America showing how they overcome PURE Evil and tyranny and how brave the Americans were.
Us "Brits" were angry because of that fact that for the sake of sales they seemed to have turned AC3 In to A Yank-fest. It might as well have been a WW2 Movie directed By Steven Spielberg Because we all know America fought that war alone.
Just look at the Inside AC3 videos ubisoft have released. They say Connor is on the side of freedom and fight against evil and Poverty.
If they were to do it accurately they would show how it was essentially a civil war and the side that lost left the land. Not how a group of americans slaves have been tortured and Abused decide to fight against evil.
But in this recent trailer they have shown what the game should have been showing all along. A war of two evils where as soon as the need for an Allie has been used up and they end up being in the way you then destroy the same people who one you the war.
Because in war there is no good vs bad. Sure you get HEROIC soldiers but you dont get heroic sides.
Hence forth, I don't expect the 'america fuck yeah' ideals to creep into yet another AAA game when Alex Hutchinson specifically said that Conor didn't necessarily have solid allegiances
They should of just come out with the truth from the start.
Killing Brits AND Americans.
That way it wouldn't of seemed so one sided.
Instead of showing different audiences different things.
Were all grown ups I think we can handle it.
I would of had a lot more respect for them if they stuck to their guns and just said here are some Americans being killed because that's what happens in war, this is the story of the guy in the middle.
It all looked very "Americaaa F*** YEAH!"
which to me as a Brit was a little off putting.
I don't mind Brits being killed as long as they stay true to their word that Conner is neutral and not just killing Brits which to be fair hasn't been the case for the trailers that have been shown up until now.
I think the reality of this game is a majority of it is going to be skewed on the side of you fighting along side the American side and there will be moments/breaks from that where you will have to fight the American's.
They are definitely being "smart" about their marketing because they assumed (correctly) that British folk won't get behind a game that is all about you killing other British folk. And in the US, it absolutely has been this "patriotic" push and there hasn't been a whisper of you killing American's for the most part.
Its Marketing 101....its a bit deceiving...but its not to far on the decieving side to get them in any kind of trouble.
But knowing Ubisoft Montreal team, they'll stick to history anyway and the game might not be as patriotic as we thought.
@chad: what?
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Just play the damn game and enjoy it !!!
It should also be noted that many games are about killing Americans of one type or another. inFamous, Prototype, RDR, GTA, and so many others.
In the UK, they have mixed up the combat shown to give it a vibe of feeling more like its not you fighting just on the American's side. I can't imagine many Brits would relish fighting solely on the side of America so they show you both so you don't get that sense (even though the game will skew heavily that way).
It's just marketing to different audiences and while you will get those on Youtube seeing both versions of commercials the vast majority of buyers will only ever see the commercial intended for them.
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Take a hint gamers.
You are out of your element my friend.
http://edsitement.neh.gov/l...
that's why american government is united with israel , it's in there blood , being with the same kind is more natural , how they are gonna act good when the start of there country was brutal and bloody for sake of interests...
disagreeing with him is only avoiding your own history , im not blaming you , it's just what happened , im comparing the time they occupied the land with this time and i see no difference between the actions , there acts only comes from the interests ...
Anyway , i can't wait for the game , it looks amazing ,..
Seriously, this was so overdue!
How a nation which almost 100% wiped out an indigenous people while simultaneously stealing their land and polluting it, and then goes on for two centuries manipulating the globe in it's second century with its profit driven military industrial complex, will do anything for oil and at the same time has a profit driven healthcare system
can always be painted as the hero wonderful shining example of greatness, is completely beyond me.
Thumbs up, Ubisoft!
Oh, and crying because every enemy of America is producing nuclear weapons and they wont stop and let you be the only ones to make them.
We aren't forcing anyone to give us oil, we spent around $90 a barrel, sometimes its more. Which is why gas is so expensive.
Some people obviously need a history lesson. We didn't even want to get involved in WWII, we had other countries (Mainly England) absolutely BEGGING us to get involved. Other countries throughout history have done the same thing.
Wait, so you think countries like Iran producing Nuclear weapons is a good thing? These are countries run by terrorists....you need to wake up kiddo.
USA all day, every day. We do what others cant do and what they wont do.
I'm sure you enjoy plenty of US inventions and features..so its all good!
Looks conceptually to be the best in the series to me!
I'm a fair guy.