Devil May Cry: how Capcom turned public opinion around

Plus, thoughts on the frames per second debate.

[Carl_Shocker]

...Sorry am I missing something here, when did they turn public opinion around, most DMC fans still think it looks crap

Jeez whats with all these DmC articles all of a sudden defending the game, think I went past three or four while scrolling through the Pending news page

[brish]

I think it goes something like this:

"If you write a favorable article for our upcoming game we will buy advertising on your site"
- capcom

[NewMonday]

"...Sorry am I missing something here, when did they turn public opinion around, most DMC fans still think it looks crap"

exactly!

well said

[LightofDarkness]

"when did they turn public opinion around"

By having media outlets write articles like these saying they did, obviously :p

Seriously, when I think of Capcom now, all I see is some kid sitting alone in a sandbox, trying to make sandcastles and failing, then sticking his fingers in his ears and shouting "LALALALA" when anyone tries to help him or asks him if he wants to try to do something else, all with a confusing, contented smile on his face.

It was cute and funny the first few times, but now we've been waiting all day and everyone wants to go home, so we're all out of patience.

[zerocrossing]

"Looks at comments bellow"

Yeah "public opinion" has really changed (raging blatant sarcasm)

This just goes to show how completely out of touch Capcom have become with their fanbase.

[Gamer345]

Do you people like any games?, you piss and moan about everything

RE6 sucks
DMC sucks
Diablo 3 sucks
Mass Effect 3 sucks
Black Ops 2 sucks

why don't you just quit gaming you miserable sods, N4G is just a breeding ground of negativity and dumb fanboys

[Lord_Sloth]

You labeled 1 great game. Maybe 2 depending on which version of DMC you're talking about.

And I'm neutral about Diablo 3 as I haven't played it. The other 2 are just plain dull.

I'll let you guess which 2.

[HarryMasonHerpderp]

Resident Evil 6 does suck.
However I got to play DMC at Eurogamer last week and actually thought it was quite good.
People should play it before ripping it apart, I know you all hate it because of what they have done to Dante but just give it a chance guys it was a lot of fun.

Here come the disagrees! lol

[LightofDarkness]

So because people aren't automatically frothing at the loins over done-to-death franchises, each arguably offering the worst entry in their respective franchise to date, they should quit gaming?

There are plenty of great games and sequels besides those over-hyped examples of sequelitis to look forward to and play. Borderlands 2, Dishonoured, Bioshock: Infinite, The Witcher 2, Guild Wars 2, The Last Of Us, the list goes on and on. Just because they're not all marquee AAA titles doesn't make them inferior to the big games in any way, nor does being a AAA game from a long standing franchise protect you from criticism.

I'm still going to give DMC a whirl, I'm sure it'll be decent, but I'm also not exactly marking the days off my calendar until its release. It changes much about the series, long-standing fans who've played it have mixed feelings about it, so I will approach it with a degree of trepidation; excuse me if I'm not erecting altars and idols to herald its coming.

If you want to talk about dumb fanboys...

[Carl_Shocker]

Yeah most of those games do suck or suck if you compare then to there previous instalment.

Can you blame people being nagtive around here, the gaming industry has become ugly over the years, if you sit back and take it then it will change quicker, if you voice your opinions it allows you to vent and maybe, just maybe despite where your comment it, the developer/publisher might see it and turn things around.

@HarryMasonHerpderp

"I know you all hate it because of what they have done to Dante but just give it a chance guys it was a lot of fun."

<sigh>

We don't hate it JUST because of that reason...

[pecorre]

I came here to say the exact same thing. My opinion on the game never changed. Still looks like crap!

[Whitefox789]

If people (Capcom) says it enough times, then it must be true....

[Giru017]

Pretty much... I'm hearing/reading all these "DmC is now great -says the public" articles and, truth be told, neither in forums nor real life have I seen anyone's opinion change.
We still hate the new Dante and, if anything, with the recent Vergil trailer[s], I have even less interest in the game.

This along with the HOW GEMS ACTUALLY IMPROVE GAMEPLAY and INCREDIBLE NEW DLC articles for SFxT makes me think Capcom is shelling out big bucks to fool the general public into thinking that "everyone thinks this is now cool".

[Carl_Shocker]

I wouldn't be honestly surprized if they pay reviewers off....if they knew it was going to happen to RE6 they would of done it but they were so cocky they thought the brand would automaticaly give it good scores.

They need DmC to get good reviews, it's vital to them and they will probably do anything to get them.

[rezzah]

Be careful of the media, they are primary influence on public opinion.

If the media starts saying shyt like this often, you WILL see a change on public opinion.

People will change their views to fit the norms of the majority. Or at least those with weaker opposing opinions.

This in turn will make it appear as if the media was "right" all along.

Edit for repeated word.

[pompombrum]

Lol eurogamer.. fail more please seriously. Never had any reason to dislike them before but this obviously paid for article or pathetic attempt at free hits has made the site lose credibility in my eyes.

Only way Capcom will turn public opinion is if they market it to the twilight crowd and say Dante is in actual fact 40% devil, 40% angel and 20% vampire and a lost relative of Edward Cullen or whatever his name is.

[IRetrouk]

Lmao, bubs that made me giggle

[Grap]

wait what?

[Smashbro29]

The character design complaints go far beyond "he has white hair".

[RivetCityGhoul]

are you kidding me the public opinion hasn't changed, its just some of the people that were against the game changed their mind as soon as they saw game-play mind you that its a very small minority of people. this game will fail in sales, call me hater i don't care. i mean DMC isn't as big as a brand as Resident Evil so don't expect the same here here cheers (I.E. RE6 ,4.5 mill units shipped) with DMC because that sure as hell isn't happening. you can take that to the bank. the fanbase is so disgusted with this game that its the reality this game will fail.

[Giru017]

Exactly... Besides, nobody would hate on this game as much as we do if it wouldn't be called DmC... Check that, nobody would hate on it if the @#$%^ character wouldn't be called DANTE.

Ninja Theory's retarded comments like "Old Dante isn't cool anymore" don't help either of course. Who the hell do they think they are to tell us what is "cool" and what isn't? Cause a scrawny emo poser-punk twilight half-angel sure as hell isn't "cool" in my book.

[Perjoss]

Cant talk about the gameplay as i didnt play it, but what i saw of DMC at the Eurogamer Expo was amazing visually. Devs are really putting these old consoles through their paces, hard to believe current gen can still look so good. The last couple of years are always interesting in a consoles life.

[ritsuka666]

I believe that the reason for success with the earlier Devil May Cry is because they offered more of a complete gaming experience that even by today's games standards can't match.

[SkullBlade169]

One does not simply create the game which the fans wanted.

[stigmurder]

I've been rather skeptical about the game myself, but people getting so worked up purely over Dante's appearance has reached a level of ridiculous that can only occur on the internet. The gameplay I have seen with the living city looks pretty badass. And these guys have made some kickass games previously anyway. Lets see what the non-biased reviews have to say first.

[RivetCityGhoul]

its not just about dante appearance. why do people like you always say that. i mean sure at first the initial trailer showing dantes appearance that was a major complaint, but you people are forgetting that it wasn't a trailer showing gameplay. until people saw how the game was gonna play people got even more pissed that its nothing more than a game for noobs.

[Baka-akaB]

"why do people like you always say that"

Because they have no other argument , beyond give it a chance , and embraces changes (even if its basically the same game dumber and slow , cosmetic stuff asides )

[Carl_Shocker]

Exactly then they'll go to the "Your a troll" comment or how you are a "hater", then they might go straight to "You havent even played the game yet" thinking that everyone needs to play something to judge it when it's pretty obvious from the trailers and marketing in general that we know what we like/don't like.

Remember RE6, when that was announced and how people like me complained about it and pointed flaws out, we were called in most articles and people said it was going to get amazing reviewers then look what happened.

People can judge things and to use that silly argument

"people getting so worked up purely over Dante's appearance has reached a level of ridiculous that can only occur on the internet"

Is ridiculous it's self...

Like you said below

"The nay-sayers aren't turned, they're just bored."

Why are the majority of people going to repeat the same thing all over the internet, same happened with FF13 and RE6.

[Redempteur]

i dunno about public opinion but my opinion is that aside from the morphing technology ( that bring nothing special in gameplay ) there is nothing special about this game.

As for the fps debate MGS rising comes with 60 fps goodness action so , well ..i know what i'll buy next year for sure..

[Baka-akaB]

The new found positivity toward this game is entirely a press invention. The nay-sayers aren't turned, they're just bored.

Said press invention was nothing new anyway . Every new Ninja theory game the press take it as a darling and tries to hype it , and yet it still fails .

Taking an existing IP and riding its coattails is pretty much NT's last or latest chance to do better than Heavenly sword sales wise .

Either way , other than wishing the game to bomb so the franchise could be properly revived or put out of its misery (better than agony even if not my choice) , i dont care that much anymore .

I have great stuff like Metal Gear Rising to look forward to instead , a short few weeks later

[Summons75]

Since when dose journalists who get paid to say what the developers want to hear count as public opinion? I still see nothing but well deserved hate for this game.

[GrahamGolden]

i love the art design in this game

but it would be better with another title

[FarCryLover182]

I think this game will be fun. I'll give it a try and I'll try to think of it as a new series rather than DmC.

[BlaqMagiq24]

Metal Gear Rising will blow this game out the water. I'm not getting this game because NT insults their fans and Capcom has become delusional. Besides with the game running at 30fps and easy to do combos, DMC 3 shits on this.

[BuffMordecai]

This pretty much describes the whole game.

[Whitefox789]

Hmm so the whole 30 FPS vs 60 FPS debate is settled huh?

Considering Kojima asked Inaba at Platinum Games to make sure Rising is 60 FPS along with Kojima describing in his tweets for the MGS HD Collection how increasing the frames from 30 to 60 appears more fluid to the human eye, I'm going to say 60 is better especially if its for an action game.

[timeon11111111111]

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