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A Generation In Review II

Cliffy B talks about his most disappointing game this generation, which is Uncharted 3.

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core_51460d ago

says the man, they has made gears of war LOL

LX-General-Kaos1460d ago (Edited 1460d ago )

If you actually see what he says its not as bad as the headline made it look. Granted that he could have chosen a more qualified game.

Irishguy951460d ago (Edited 1460d ago )

Yeah it's not even close, Cliffy B was disappointed like loads of people where, even if they believe it's still good, it had Uncharted 2 to beat and it simply didn't.

@ relient, it's essentially the pacing, Uncharted 2 had consistent quality throughout, Uncharted 3 was boring in the first half and amazing in the second imo.

Locksus1460d ago

@Irishguy95
I thought it was the other way around. I thought UC3 first half was awesome but the second was way too action oriented.

MikeMyers1459d ago (Edited 1459d ago )

I'm really starting to get disgusted with the way headlines are generated all for the sake of getting hits. If you watch the full interview, the host Geoff Keighley asks the other 3 guests any game they were disappointed in. Tim Schafer has the most difficult time likely because it's a loaded question and he's just a nice guy. Cliffy wastes no time and mentions more than 1 game. One of them being Uncharted 3 which of course will generate the most attention.

Now to put it all into perspective Cliffy B says Uncharted 2 was his GOTY title. He knows Uncharted 3 had big big shoes to fill which is why he was a bit letdown by Uncharted 3. He doesn't say it's a bad game. His other pick was Rage, but of course the media will continue to treat us all like naive fanboys.

LastDance1459d ago

remember that omg moment in U2 when the house your in collapses? Very memorable right?

How many times does something similar to that happen in U3? I lost count when i was playing it..

The game had poor pacing and the end level in particular felt extremely rushed

Sarcasm1459d ago (Edited 1459d ago )

I used to think that UC2 was better than UC3 also. In fact UC2 is still one of the best games of any generation. But after playing UC3 multiple play throughs, I've learned that they couldn't really make it any other way and instead they progressed the story to a more focused narrative which ends up being genius.

*****SPOILER FOR YOU IF YOU DIDN'T PLAY UC3*****

But I was frozen when I thought Sully actually got killed.********

ShinMaster1459d ago (Edited 1459d ago )

Just saying, Cliffy.

Septic1459d ago (Edited 1459d ago )

I really didn't think N4G was that big- for Cliffy to call out N4G specifically...you never known he could be lurking around here.

As far as him picking Uncharted 3, true fans shouldn't take his choice to heart at all;

Think of the Uncharted series as the Godfather of video games. The first one was brilliant and the sequel was nothing short of spectacular, with an amazing storyline and and the inclusion of multiplayer (the equivalent of Don Corleone's story?) So with Uncharted 2 being the gaming equivalent of Godfather 2, you're bound to be disappointed by anything that comes after it. Now, I'm not suggesting Uncharted 3 was as bad as Godfather 3, it's just that it might have left many disappointed simply because of how epic (no pun intended) Uncharted 2 was.

Personally, I enjoyed all 3 games. I wouldn't put it on my most disappointing game list.

I totally agree with his choice when it came to Rage. Where was the deathmatch? This is id software! You have to do deathmatch. He summed it up really well.

I'd also mention Final Fantasy or Modern Warfare 3.

bnaked1459d ago

I would compare it to Nolan's Batman trilogy. ;-)

Septic1459d ago

@bnaked

Ah yeah that's a much better analogy :)

LostDjinn1459d ago (Edited 1459d ago )

Cliffy may well be a douche. I remember him whining like hell when someone gave GeoW3 an eight but there's more to this then that.

Cinemablend is a site so low, without moral or ethical guidelines, that at one point they ran a story claiming N4G users don't just condoned rape, they defend it!
http://www.cinemablend.com/...

In fact it's the same author (William Usher) on both pieces.

So before you think Cliffy was just being a douche again for attention remember it's Cinemablend. After all, why would they be above smearing Cliffy for hits when they've already smeared you for them?

Edit: Before you pathetic excuses for "journalists" (LOL(Even blogger is too generous a term)) that work for Cinemablend try and blame GT for this, it's your OP that appears here.

Hang your #%$&in' heads in shame! You're disgusting.

Nimblest-Assassin1458d ago

I don't undertand why people are getting so upset with him

He has a mutual respect for ND, but he felt disappointed in the game as a player.

Simply because U2 set the bar so high, and U3 had a hard time reaching it

He never said its a bad game... he just said he wish it was as good as U2

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Godchild10201460d ago (Edited 1460d ago )

You really can't blame him for feeling let down by uncharted 3, when most of the fans of the series even said that Uncharted 2 was clearly the best of the 3.

I played every one of them and I agree that Uncharted 3 felt so much like 2 and the only thing that changed was the location, the story progressed and the MP. That is not to say that the game was bad, it just wasn't what most of the fans of the series expected (IMO).

I really agreed with them all and that is not to say they were all bad, they just didn't reach the high exceptions a lot of the fans had.

Assassin's Creed; Coming from the company that made Prince of Persia.

Rage; Coming from a highly credited Dev that made the Doom and quake games and a Highly credit Publisher/Dev (Not so much to the Ps3 community after Skyrim?) that made the Elder Scrolls and Fallout series.

Uncharted 3; Coming from the company that made Crash and Jak & Daxter, but not only that, it was there third outing in the series, so it hand a lot to live up to. Because every one of their third games were better than the second (Minus Jak 3 based off Metacritic).

BakedGoods1459d ago

While RAGE and Uncharted may be considered a let down by some, CliffyB's reasoning was absurd. He just complained they where not the games HE wanted to play. Three-wave CTF in RAGE? Non-linear Uncharted?

Well in that case I'm disappointed Gears 3 wasn't an MMORPG--'cause frankly that's what I wanted.

The guy's a great developer, but views the game industry exclusively through his own lens--forgetting that some people WANTED a single-player iD experience, or a cinematic Indiana-Jones styled adventure--he unfortunately failed to criticize them on those terms.

aquamala1460d ago

A game doesn't need to be horrible to be disappointing.

Knushwood Butt1459d ago

@ LastDance

You mean, the way nearly every ledge / thing you grab onto in UC3 falls away in a shock, surprise moment (/s). Yeah, that was lame. It got seriously tedious. As did the number of times Drake says, 'Oh crap.'.

It's like ND were trying to be clever and parody themselves, but it simply wasn't funny or clever.

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Knight_Crawler1459d ago

Can not blame the man for saying that...UC 3 was good but no where near the awesomeness that was UC2.

I think ND put there self in a corner by making UC2 so EPIC.

2pacalypsenow1459d ago

Gears of war 2-3 were trash

Zechs341459d ago

Gears 2 was trash, Gears 1 and 3 are great games.

Syntax-Error1459d ago (Edited 1459d ago )

Gears 1 was good, Gears 2 was a WTF did I just play, and Gears 3 was breath of fresh air. Even leaving the end open for a possibility was great. Looking forward to the new one next year. They wrapped up everyone's back story except for Baird. The next will show his. One thing about EPIC, they listen to feedback. Gears was the 2nd game in my life that made me sad to see a character die. First goes to Walking Dead Ep.3. I don't get that attached to characters and when I do...then that means the developers have done their job.

I am sure Naughty Dog has heard so many negative things about their 3rd installment that the next adventure will be over the top. They tried to give you air and sea battles, but it was epic enough I guess. You fought on ship, plane, car, and boat...what's next? The Last Of Us will make up for Uncharted 3, so IN NAUGHTY I TRUST.

2pacalypsenow1459d ago

their online was crappy lagfest the 3rd was better online but the campaign stank

WrAiTh Sp3cTr31459d ago

"says the man, they has made gears of war LOL"

Was that suppose to be an insult? I don't want to say I don't like Cliffy B, buuuuttttt...you should try harder.

Ranma11459d ago (Edited 1459d ago )

"Cliffy B talks about his most disappointing game this generation, which is Uncharted 3"

NO, that award goes to Final Fantasy 13

Allsystemgamer1459d ago

What's wrong with gears of war?

Maybe if you actually read the article you would look the fool

Kingdom Come1459d ago

And people say this site isn't biased. Seriously, this is beyond pathetic. Cliff merely answered a question honestly, he mentioned two games that he is not alone in having found disappointing, Rage lacked that id Software multiplayer touch, Uncharted 3 felt like a rehash of its predecessor. Don't criticise his games just because you disagree with his opinion, just maturely mention why you disagree.

And as for mocking Gears of War, the franchise revolutionised the Third-Person Shooter genre.

TongkatAli1459d ago

Resident Evil 4 said wassup doc.

IRetrouk1459d ago

Kill switch say high from last gen

Eyeco1459d ago (Edited 1459d ago )

The thing is Uncharted 3 wouldn't be considered a disappointment if Uncharted 2 wasn't so damn good, really after playing Uncharted 3, Gears 3 , and other action games released in the last year i can really appreciate Uncharted 2 so much more than when i played it on release.

That said i have quite a few gripes with Uncharted 3, for example the pacing is way off, nothing really connects fluidly , it just seems that one minute im in London, then im in France then im Syria then im on a boat, it feels like im jumping from locale to locale with almost no connection something that allot of action games tend to suffer from. Trust me play Uncharted 2 then play Uncharted 3 you'll notice just how inconsistent the level design is Uncharted 3 feels allot more disjointed,

Also someone else said this, the 1st half of the game just isn't that interesting its only when you reach the pirate camp where things really start to pick up, there seemed to be an overemphasis on shooting, the game feels like im just going from one set piece to another, there was no balance at all, remember the ice cave in Uncharted 2 ?

My next point is also referring back to the level design, the game is way too linear, remember in Uncharted 2 how the level design would allow you so many options to approach your enemy ? yeah that seems to have gone in U3 your literally limited to one position in parts of U3, that and it seems to go back to what made Drakes Fortune so damn annoying, in the sense that you would be stuck in one position fighting wave after wave of enemies, it was frustrating as hell.

I could go on , if anyone wants to know more of my gripes with U3 just pm me i've got a book load, overall the game seems to suffer from lack of polish, im gonna get allot of hate for this but Gears of War 3 is actually a more refined game than Uncharted3 , is it better ? no , but its way more polished. Naughty Dog should have spent 6-12 months refining the game. I mean they didn't even include cheats the one thing that made Uncharted games so replayable and they didn't include it i i have absolutely zero motivation to replay that game . Uncharted 3 is still an amazing game when you compare it to 90% of all the games out there right now its just not the sequel i expected.

Syntax-Error1459d ago

Let's be honest here, if Gears was going to be released for PS3 I am 100% positive it would fly off the damn shelf, SO STOP WITH THE DUMB HATE COMMENTS! You make yourself look like a damn fool when you make them. The game has outsold all PS3 exclusives, so your comments make you look like a fanboy. I love my PS3 and agree that they have more quality exclusives, but let's look at the facts before spewing ignorant comments.

The fact of the matter is Cliffy B(whether hate him or not) is absolutely right. I also appreciate what he has to say because he doesn't feel he has to be politically correct when answering a question. Only a few guys out there are like that. I for one can't wait to see what the new PS4 will look like or perform like, but I get goosebumps thinking about it. After seeing EPIC's demo for next gen, it looks like we might be nearing an official 10 yr console.

Eyeco1459d ago

what has gears 3 outselling ps3 exclusives (not entirely true) got to do with anything, since when do sales= quality COD has outsold everything on the 360 including the beloved Halo, that doesn't exactly exclude it from criticism.

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Tyrone_Biggums1460d ago

Looks like I gave him a little too much of the goods.

Relientk771460d ago (Edited 1460d ago )

I dont understand everyone's obession with saying Uncharted 3 was a disapointment or one of the most disapointing games this generation. I think Uncharted 2 was one of the best games this generation and that Uncharted 3 was also amazing and one of the best games of 2011 and of this generation. I think Uncharted 3 is very close to Uncharted 2 in terms of quality. I think Uncharted 2 is just a LTTLE BIT better than Uncharted 3. They are both amazing games.

Run_bare1460d ago

I Love all of them, Uncharted 2 was the best and Uncharted 3 giving me sense of continuation and more closeness to the character.

Knight_Crawler1459d ago (Edited 1459d ago )

" I think Uncharted 3 is very close to Uncharted 2 in terms of quality. I think Uncharted 2 is just a LTTLE BIT better than Uncharted 3"

You answered your own question...people expect the next game for a great game to be even greater. Uncharted 3 felt like someone gave me a Ferrari Enzo for my bday and the following year they gave me a Camaro :(

Edit: UC3 was great but you have to admit that playing it felt like a downer after playing UC2...not saying its ND fault for making UC2 so great but after reading that the team was split into 2 during UC3 development so one team can work on TLOU, I have to wonder if ND could have done better with UC3 if they had the entire team working on it and it was there main focus.

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MysticStrummer1459d ago (Edited 1459d ago )

"UC3 was great but you have to admit that playing it felt like a downer after playing UC2"

No. I personally wasn't let down by UC3 at all. Brink, Dead Island, and Rage are my three most disappointing games this gen. I'm not sure how many games I'd have to list before I got to UC3 but it would be a lot.

JadedXGamer1460d ago

I felt Uncharted 3 was absolutely terrible. Pathetic excuse for a sequel, especially after Uncharted 2 which was so good.

Knight_Crawler1459d ago

I would not go as far as to say that it was terrible just did not live up to the UC2 expectations.

To be fair the entire Naughty Dog was not working on UC3 as the team was split into 2 and some of the UC developers were/are working on TLOU.

UN2 is hands down my favorite game this gen and hope that TLOU surpasses UC2.

BrianC62341459d ago

You sure didn't play the same game I played. Uncharted 3 was far from terrible. It's hard to repeat a game like Uncharted 2 but that doesn't make Uncharted 3 absolutely terrible.

hulk_bash19871459d ago

Your name says it all buddy. You have to be an extremely Jaded gamer to think that Uncharted 3 was "a pathetic excuse for a sequel". Though I did find that Uncharted 2 was the best in the series and one of the best games this Gen, Uncharted 3 wasn't far behind it.

yeahokchief1460d ago (Edited 1460d ago )

Uncharted 3 was amazing. Fantastic mutliplayer. Controls felt so damn smooth and i like all the coop modes.

You're doing yourself a disservice if you consider yourself a gamer and haven't experience "the plane sequence." It was one of the most impressive gaming experiences i've had to date. It was so awesome that it has it's own level in Battle Royale.

JellyJelly1459d ago

"Fantastic mutliplayer."

Not really.