Cliffy B talks about his most disappointing game this generation, which is Uncharted 3.
says the man, they has made gears of war LOL
If you actually see what he says its not as bad as the headline made it look. Granted that he could have chosen a more qualified game.
Yeah it's not even close, Cliffy B was disappointed like loads of people where, even if they believe it's still good, it had Uncharted 2 to beat and it simply didn't. @ relient, it's essentially the pacing, Uncharted 2 had consistent quality throughout, Uncharted 3 was boring in the first half and amazing in the second imo.
@Irishguy95 I thought it was the other way around. I thought UC3 first half was awesome but the second was way too action oriented.
I'm really starting to get disgusted with the way headlines are generated all for the sake of getting hits. If you watch the full interview, the host Geoff Keighley asks the other 3 guests any game they were disappointed in. Tim Schafer has the most difficult time likely because it's a loaded question and he's just a nice guy. Cliffy wastes no time and mentions more than 1 game. One of them being Uncharted 3 which of course will generate the most attention. Now to put it all into perspective Cliffy B says Uncharted 2 was his GOTY title. He knows Uncharted 3 had big big shoes to fill which is why he was a bit letdown by Uncharted 3. He doesn't say it's a bad game. His other pick was Rage, but of course the media will continue to treat us all like naive fanboys.
remember that omg moment in U2 when the house your in collapses? Very memorable right? How many times does something similar to that happen in U3? I lost count when i was playing it.. The game had poor pacing and the end level in particular felt extremely rushed
I used to think that UC2 was better than UC3 also. In fact UC2 is still one of the best games of any generation. But after playing UC3 multiple play throughs, I've learned that they couldn't really make it any other way and instead they progressed the story to a more focused narrative which ends up being genius. *****SPOILER FOR YOU IF YOU DIDN'T PLAY UC3***** But I was frozen when I thought Sully actually got killed.********
Just saying, Cliffy.
I really didn't think N4G was that big- for Cliffy to call out N4G specifically...you never known he could be lurking around here. As far as him picking Uncharted 3, true fans shouldn't take his choice to heart at all; Think of the Uncharted series as the Godfather of video games. The first one was brilliant and the sequel was nothing short of spectacular, with an amazing storyline and and the inclusion of multiplayer (the equivalent of Don Corleone's story?) So with Uncharted 2 being the gaming equivalent of Godfather 2, you're bound to be disappointed by anything that comes after it. Now, I'm not suggesting Uncharted 3 was as bad as Godfather 3, it's just that it might have left many disappointed simply because of how epic (no pun intended) Uncharted 2 was. Personally, I enjoyed all 3 games. I wouldn't put it on my most disappointing game list. I totally agree with his choice when it came to Rage. Where was the deathmatch? This is id software! You have to do deathmatch. He summed it up really well. I'd also mention Final Fantasy or Modern Warfare 3.
I would compare it to Nolan's Batman trilogy. ;-)
@bnaked Ah yeah that's a much better analogy :)
Cliffy may well be a douche. I remember him whining like hell when someone gave GeoW3 an eight but there's more to this then that. Cinemablend is a site so low, without moral or ethical guidelines, that at one point they ran a story claiming N4G users don't just condoned rape, they defend it! http://www.cinemablend.com/... In fact it's the same author (William Usher) on both pieces. So before you think Cliffy was just being a douche again for attention remember it's Cinemablend. After all, why would they be above smearing Cliffy for hits when they've already smeared you for them? Edit: Before you pathetic excuses for "journalists" (LOL(Even blogger is too generous a term)) that work for Cinemablend try and blame GT for this, it's your OP that appears here. Hang your #%$&in' heads in shame! You're disgusting.
I don't undertand why people are getting so upset with him He has a mutual respect for ND, but he felt disappointed in the game as a player. Simply because U2 set the bar so high, and U3 had a hard time reaching it He never said its a bad game... he just said he wish it was as good as U2
You really can't blame him for feeling let down by uncharted 3, when most of the fans of the series even said that Uncharted 2 was clearly the best of the 3. I played every one of them and I agree that Uncharted 3 felt so much like 2 and the only thing that changed was the location, the story progressed and the MP. That is not to say that the game was bad, it just wasn't what most of the fans of the series expected (IMO). I really agreed with them all and that is not to say they were all bad, they just didn't reach the high exceptions a lot of the fans had. Assassin's Creed; Coming from the company that made Prince of Persia. Rage; Coming from a highly credited Dev that made the Doom and quake games and a Highly credit Publisher/Dev (Not so much to the Ps3 community after Skyrim?) that made the Elder Scrolls and Fallout series. Uncharted 3; Coming from the company that made Crash and Jak & Daxter, but not only that, it was there third outing in the series, so it hand a lot to live up to. Because every one of their third games were better than the second (Minus Jak 3 based off Metacritic).
While RAGE and Uncharted may be considered a let down by some, CliffyB's reasoning was absurd. He just complained they where not the games HE wanted to play. Three-wave CTF in RAGE? Non-linear Uncharted? Well in that case I'm disappointed Gears 3 wasn't an MMORPG--'cause frankly that's what I wanted. The guy's a great developer, but views the game industry exclusively through his own lens--forgetting that some people WANTED a single-player iD experience, or a cinematic Indiana-Jones styled adventure--he unfortunately failed to criticize them on those terms.
A game doesn't need to be horrible to be disappointing.
@ LastDance You mean, the way nearly every ledge / thing you grab onto in UC3 falls away in a shock, surprise moment (/s). Yeah, that was lame. It got seriously tedious. As did the number of times Drake says, 'Oh crap.'. It's like ND were trying to be clever and parody themselves, but it simply wasn't funny or clever.
Can not blame the man for saying that...UC 3 was good but no where near the awesomeness that was UC2. I think ND put there self in a corner by making UC2 so EPIC.
Gears of war 2-3 were trash
Gears 2 was trash, Gears 1 and 3 are great games.
Gears 1 was good, Gears 2 was a WTF did I just play, and Gears 3 was breath of fresh air. Even leaving the end open for a possibility was great. Looking forward to the new one next year. They wrapped up everyone's back story except for Baird. The next will show his. One thing about EPIC, they listen to feedback. Gears was the 2nd game in my life that made me sad to see a character die. First goes to Walking Dead Ep.3. I don't get that attached to characters and when I do...then that means the developers have done their job. I am sure Naughty Dog has heard so many negative things about their 3rd installment that the next adventure will be over the top. They tried to give you air and sea battles, but it was epic enough I guess. You fought on ship, plane, car, and boat...what's next? The Last Of Us will make up for Uncharted 3, so IN NAUGHTY I TRUST.
their online was crappy lagfest the 3rd was better online but the campaign stank
"says the man, they has made gears of war LOL" Was that suppose to be an insult? I don't want to say I don't like Cliffy B, buuuuttttt...you should try harder.
"Cliffy B talks about his most disappointing game this generation, which is Uncharted 3" NO, that award goes to Final Fantasy 13
What's wrong with gears of war? Maybe if you actually read the article you would look the fool
And people say this site isn't biased. Seriously, this is beyond pathetic. Cliff merely answered a question honestly, he mentioned two games that he is not alone in having found disappointing, Rage lacked that id Software multiplayer touch, Uncharted 3 felt like a rehash of its predecessor. Don't criticise his games just because you disagree with his opinion, just maturely mention why you disagree. And as for mocking Gears of War, the franchise revolutionised the Third-Person Shooter genre.
Resident Evil 4 said wassup doc.
Kill switch say high from last gen
The thing is Uncharted 3 wouldn't be considered a disappointment if Uncharted 2 wasn't so damn good, really after playing Uncharted 3, Gears 3 , and other action games released in the last year i can really appreciate Uncharted 2 so much more than when i played it on release. That said i have quite a few gripes with Uncharted 3, for example the pacing is way off, nothing really connects fluidly , it just seems that one minute im in London, then im in France then im Syria then im on a boat, it feels like im jumping from locale to locale with almost no connection something that allot of action games tend to suffer from. Trust me play Uncharted 2 then play Uncharted 3 you'll notice just how inconsistent the level design is Uncharted 3 feels allot more disjointed, Also someone else said this, the 1st half of the game just isn't that interesting its only when you reach the pirate camp where things really start to pick up, there seemed to be an overemphasis on shooting, the game feels like im just going from one set piece to another, there was no balance at all, remember the ice cave in Uncharted 2 ? My next point is also referring back to the level design, the game is way too linear, remember in Uncharted 2 how the level design would allow you so many options to approach your enemy ? yeah that seems to have gone in U3 your literally limited to one position in parts of U3, that and it seems to go back to what made Drakes Fortune so damn annoying, in the sense that you would be stuck in one position fighting wave after wave of enemies, it was frustrating as hell. I could go on , if anyone wants to know more of my gripes with U3 just pm me i've got a book load, overall the game seems to suffer from lack of polish, im gonna get allot of hate for this but Gears of War 3 is actually a more refined game than Uncharted3 , is it better ? no , but its way more polished. Naughty Dog should have spent 6-12 months refining the game. I mean they didn't even include cheats the one thing that made Uncharted games so replayable and they didn't include it i i have absolutely zero motivation to replay that game . Uncharted 3 is still an amazing game when you compare it to 90% of all the games out there right now its just not the sequel i expected.
Let's be honest here, if Gears was going to be released for PS3 I am 100% positive it would fly off the damn shelf, SO STOP WITH THE DUMB HATE COMMENTS! You make yourself look like a damn fool when you make them. The game has outsold all PS3 exclusives, so your comments make you look like a fanboy. I love my PS3 and agree that they have more quality exclusives, but let's look at the facts before spewing ignorant comments. The fact of the matter is Cliffy B(whether hate him or not) is absolutely right. I also appreciate what he has to say because he doesn't feel he has to be politically correct when answering a question. Only a few guys out there are like that. I for one can't wait to see what the new PS4 will look like or perform like, but I get goosebumps thinking about it. After seeing EPIC's demo for next gen, it looks like we might be nearing an official 10 yr console.
what has gears 3 outselling ps3 exclusives (not entirely true) got to do with anything, since when do sales= quality COD has outsold everything on the 360 including the beloved Halo, that doesn't exactly exclude it from criticism.
Looks like I gave him a little too much of the goods.
I dont understand everyone's obession with saying Uncharted 3 was a disapointment or one of the most disapointing games this generation. I think Uncharted 2 was one of the best games this generation and that Uncharted 3 was also amazing and one of the best games of 2011 and of this generation. I think Uncharted 3 is very close to Uncharted 2 in terms of quality. I think Uncharted 2 is just a LTTLE BIT better than Uncharted 3. They are both amazing games.
I Love all of them, Uncharted 2 was the best and Uncharted 3 giving me sense of continuation and more closeness to the character.
" I think Uncharted 3 is very close to Uncharted 2 in terms of quality. I think Uncharted 2 is just a LTTLE BIT better than Uncharted 3" You answered your own question...people expect the next game for a great game to be even greater. Uncharted 3 felt like someone gave me a Ferrari Enzo for my bday and the following year they gave me a Camaro :( Edit: UC3 was great but you have to admit that playing it felt like a downer after playing UC2...not saying its ND fault for making UC2 so great but after reading that the team was split into 2 during UC3 development so one team can work on TLOU, I have to wonder if ND could have done better with UC3 if they had the entire team working on it and it was there main focus.
"UC3 was great but you have to admit that playing it felt like a downer after playing UC2" No. I personally wasn't let down by UC3 at all. Brink, Dead Island, and Rage are my three most disappointing games this gen. I'm not sure how many games I'd have to list before I got to UC3 but it would be a lot.
I felt Uncharted 3 was absolutely terrible. Pathetic excuse for a sequel, especially after Uncharted 2 which was so good.
I would not go as far as to say that it was terrible just did not live up to the UC2 expectations. To be fair the entire Naughty Dog was not working on UC3 as the team was split into 2 and some of the UC developers were/are working on TLOU. UN2 is hands down my favorite game this gen and hope that TLOU surpasses UC2.
You sure didn't play the same game I played. Uncharted 3 was far from terrible. It's hard to repeat a game like Uncharted 2 but that doesn't make Uncharted 3 absolutely terrible.
Your name says it all buddy. You have to be an extremely Jaded gamer to think that Uncharted 3 was "a pathetic excuse for a sequel". Though I did find that Uncharted 2 was the best in the series and one of the best games this Gen, Uncharted 3 wasn't far behind it.
Uncharted 3 was amazing. Fantastic mutliplayer. Controls felt so damn smooth and i like all the coop modes. You're doing yourself a disservice if you consider yourself a gamer and haven't experience "the plane sequence." It was one of the most impressive gaming experiences i've had to date. It was so awesome that it has it's own level in Battle Royale.
"Fantastic mutliplayer." Not really.
This article is trolling Cliff B for hits. He gives a disclaimer before he gives a reasonable response. I personally think his idea is stupid and wouldn't want the features he explains, but he's not being a dick. "The plane sequence" was worth every penny imo. It comes down to whether you'd rather have 1 really amazing experience or 20-30 hours of meh. In this case, i'm really glad they went for the amazing experience because you can't put a price on good memories. My most disappointing game was Battlefield 3 on the PS3. On the PC it would have been a 10/10, but on the PS3 it was garbage. Beat the campaign on hard, played the multiplayer for a day or two and threw it away. Sooo disappointed in DICE after BFBC2 was probably one of the games i spent most time playing in 2010 on the PS3. Bethesda games on the PS3 are equally terrible but i didnt waste my money on any of them. @ritsuka666 Sure cliffyb for president. President of some remote island in the middle of nowhere.
True. It was blown WAAAY out of proportion. To everyone, just watch the video, it happens in the first 3 minutes. I quoted Cliffy B, just to stop a flame war. The headline, is once again looking to start a flame war. "I'm friends with the developers, I love their games, we drink together, they're awesome...but in a lot of ways Uncharted 3 let me down" he continues on to say "Now before this cause N4G internet controversy, I wanna explain why" He goes on to admit that their voice acting and writing is "Way better than we do". His other choice was Rage, which he is friends with the developers (id tech) again. Mikey Neumann's choice was Assassins Creed 1. Tim Schafer, still very funny, didn't really pick one. I suggest watching the Video, it was a few very smart people talking exactly like you would to friends when you get together. I myself thought The Darkness 2 was disapointing, along with Bioshock 2, Gears of War 3 AND Uncharted 3. I love Gears 3 (still going for Seriously 3.0, over 40,000 kills online so far), but it felt like more of a sequel to the novel by Karen Traviss than a sequel to Gears 2, which really ruined the experience a whole lot for me. Share your thoughts people, remembering that "most disappointing" doesn't mean it isn't a AAA experience.
Cliffy B for president! <3
Well everybody who actually read cliffys statements for Uncharted 3 and watched the video know how he really feels about it. The picture for this news is simply retarded.
Gears 3 was no better.. Uncharted 3 is a much better game to me.. This guy sure did buy it tho lol
I thought Geow3 was better than UC3. It was the opposite for some of the reasons given already like pacing and some of the repetive lines they had him say in UC3 over and over.
I agree that Gears 3 is a great game, fantastic even, but to say it had good pacing or story? I dont think so. Stop. Cover. Shoot. Cutscene. Rinse and repeat. Dont get me wrong, almost 90% of all games are guilty of this, but I wouldnt deduct or give any points to either U3 or Gears 3 for utilizing it.
Uncharted 3, a game with LAME story, dumb AI, clunky gameplay and old hag as villain with no boss battles better than Gears of War 3?? lol play the game before you talk! uncharted inspired by gears of war: http://everygamingnews.com/... btw cliffy and Kojima-san are very close friends http://n4g.com/news/1074136... http://p.twimg.com/A1xKlA5C... http://andriasang.com/comzb... http://i.imgur.com/nER7k.pn... http://vividgamer.com/wp-co... http://vividgamer.com/2011/... get jealous!
I do not understand why people should be jelous Cliff and Kojima are friends I mean, you are blocking out all the praise Kojima gave ND for the last of us, as well as traveling all the way to california to see the game himself Remember? https://p.twimg.com/AxY7rI8... So why are people supposed to be jelous? Kojima is a great guy who makes a lot of friends... your context isn't making much sense Also Cliffy B has a mutual respect for Naughty Dog... so once again I don't understand the point you are making Even though he thinks uncharted 3 was a disappointment... he still respects ND
Another article nitpicking at Cliffy B. Its not a big deal. I found UC3 okay but there were other games i found more disapointed.
I have to give most disappointing game to the whole Gears Of War series. Sorry Cliffy B but your games just aren't much to talk about. Uncharted 3 might not have been as good as Uncharted 2 but it was still better than the Gears Of War games.
Only way Uncharted 3 can be your most disappointing is if Uncharted 2 was your favorite this Gen.
Well they did a "3 favourite ps3 games" thing ages ago. Cliffy B's were Uncharted 1, Heavy Rain and Killzone 2. It was taken out of context, as most rational gamers know that different devs get along. It is also well known that Epic and Naughty Dog get along with each other. Epic isn't owned by Microsoft, but people always forget.
He was hyped for a game and it disappointed him, how is that interesting? Haven't you ever highly anticipated a game and had it fail to meet your expectations?
sorry, most dissapointing game of this gen goes to Final Fantasy XII, followed by RE5.
Mwahahaha....Cliffy says in the video he didn't want this blowing up on N4G and now it's on the front page. Eat crow Cliffy, that's what you get for dogging Uncharted 3, bro!
Everyone knows damn well he wanted it to blow up here. He's happy as long as someone is talking about him and paying attention to what he says.
So, this is pretty much just another article talking what Cliff Bleszinski said out of context for hits? Got ya.
Uncharted 2 was much better than 3, that's true. But Uncharted 3 was also better than most other games released in the same year. There were far more disappointing games released other than Uncharted 3. You know, like a good old game named Skyrim. The content was great, but the execution was sloppy as all hell, across all platforms, and more so on PS3. It didn't deserve the GotY's it got, and the studio sure as hell didn't deserve "Developer of the year". Skyrim wasn't terrible, and it was better than mediocre, but it wasn't smart to release it when they did either. You know there's bias when they release a broken game and they win all awards possible.
It's not bias though. You had a different experience to what I experienced, because I had very little trouble with bugs and glitches in Skyrim. In fact, I encountered more bugs in UC3 than I did Skyrim. I would also call Skyrim my GOTY last year, and it's not down to bias, it's just because I enjoyed it more than any other game. It's a weak argument when you say something won awards because everyone else that didn't agree with you is biased, because maybe they just had a very different opinion to your own. With Uncharted 2 I loved it, but in the same year that it released Demons Souls was also released and I personally enjoyed that game more than UC2. UC2 won a lot more GOTY awards than DS. Do I think the media was biased because it got more awards than DS? No, because not everyone has the same opinion that I do. And that's fine. I can understand ps3 gamers not being happy with Bethesda, from what I've heard it's not that great on ps3. But that doesn't detract from what everyone else experienced on other platforms. And obviously a lot more people had fun with the game than those that didn't.
says the man that developed Gears ! LOL ! his just jealous cause Uncharted is better ! but their both great series imo !
but i do agree with his points about UC3
What's wrong with Gears kid??
Uncharted 3 sucked. Plain and Simple. Most gamers will agree to this, fanboys will not. I thought the animations were garbage. For example, In the very beginning trying to climb up that side of the building gave very awkward and stiff movements. The game won awards for best sony exclusive, but most gaming journalists gave the overall best game to Batman Arkham City. A much better game.
i wouldnt say it sucked , but yea it didnt have that awesome feeling of UC2
UC3 was a letdown compared to the two first ones. 2 is still the best. The thing I hated about UC3 was that they removed the thing when you unlocked weapons and skins. This added to a great replay value on the first two games.
I don't think Cliff is unfounded on his criticism for Uncharted 3, but I was disappointed by it for entirely different reasons. He was even forced to make a note for N4G because he's so well aware of the rabid, entitled Playstation gamers that frequent this site. I'm a huge Playstation buff and have been forever alienated by the other fans on this site for being close-minded. I'm sure this post will be riddled with disagrees, such is the nature of defending a series that is so close to lovers of Naughty Dog and the PS3 (me included). I think Uncharted 3 is the worst in the series for a whole host of reasons. Bullet-sponge enemy types, frustrating level design, a tedious first act, story contrivances, messy animation blending, a multi-player component that removes any tactical nous, and a climax that practically mimics the second game. People shouldn't be ashamed to say that they were disappointed by Uncharted 3. I know a number of my friends were too. The budget really gave the game a gloss that prevented the criticism that it needed. It's not even a matter of living up to Uncharted 2, which I feel was a masterpiece, but 3 was regressive in such a way that I still enjoyed Drake's Fortune more.