Microsoft has launched a new Xbox LIVE Rewards scheme entitling players who have passed certain Gamerscore milestones to additional discounts on Xbox LIVE Marketplace.
Talk about late with the idea, we all wanted a use for them dumb achievements. But I still hate them and will not get them for discounts on Xbox live, since I never buy anything from it and never will. GAME OF THE YEAR EDITIONS I wait for and those are the ones I like and would never buy of Xbox live. I am not even connected to live what so ever and never will. I will not pay £16 or £25 or even £40 for a gold member ship since i think because its a total waste of money and it sucks as a service big time. Never will i be connected with this new scheme and I am glad I never get sucked into its lies
It's better than nothing but I would of thought Microsoft would try and compete with Playstation Plus a bit more. Competition is great for the gamers and Xbox Live users would only benefit from Microsoft rising up to Sonys challenge. Sadly this doesn't seem like the case.
umm...MS makes Billions off of xbox live...While Sony is yet to turn a profit off of Playstation Online service.... Who needs to compete with who? I think you have that mixed around.
I think you're confused with company profit and what really matters to us as gamers. I'm talking about what's best for the consumer. Not Microsofts billions.
WTF is 2% off going to do. $1.20 off of a $60? It's great that they're using their system based off achievements because it rewards gamers who game the most, but come on 2% at least 5% - 10%.
If a service doesn't make money and bleeds a company out...See how long that service is offered. If a service is not profitable for a company it will eventually be shut down.
Let Microsoft and Sony's accountants worry about their profit margins.
chuckyj1: PSN+ doesn't make Sony money? Home transactions doesn't make Sony money? See, unlike MS, Sony do not believe you should have to pay your ISP for internet access and then Sony themselves to access the online content of a game you paid $60 for already. They make money in such a way that isn't a huge rip off to consumers.
@chuckyj1 PlayStation Network is free, unless you're living in a cave?
You do know you dont have to be a gold member to get achievements and make purchases on xblive...right? Silver members may not be able to play online and access things like netflix and facebook but they can still earn achievements and buy stuff through the marketplace.
HarryMason, you should care who earns profits, for all you know Sony could end up out of business with the way they have been playing the game up until now
I find it funny that MS gives gamers something, and people complain. I guess they could give you nothing and you would have nothing to complain about. Then again, it seems the usual fanboys are the ones complaining.
Loved achievements anyway..
I'll take a free discount for earning like I wouldve anyway.
One of the most persistant requests about Xbox Live achievements was that they should mean more and be put towards something financially.
Bam..it's here and there are still complaints?
"Talk about late with the idea" Who else is doing this?
Steam do it over the holidays. complete a task in a selected game and earn discount on games.
PS+ also offers 10% discounts on day 1 download games. I already preordered Doom 3 BFG Edition
I think he's referring to the fact that we're nearing the end of the 360's life cycle.
This really isnt about the 360 if you think about it. While the discounts may apply to related content for 360 games, the Live service is exactly that. A service. So just as it went from the original xbox to the 360, it will likely transcend to the next xbox as well as windows8 and WP7 & 8. Achievements will be available in many different titles on various MS products. Marketplace content will be available for the different MS platforms as well. Not just the 360 anymore.
" Birthday Gift (approximate retail value ("ARV"): $0.25 USD)" Seriously?!
meanwhile on ps+ they are giving away games new and old for free
meanwhile, on ps+, they are giving away games (new and old) for free for the duration of your membership. All fixed. Punctuation and context.
Hey darthv Before you pat yourself too much on the back with that comment, remember a similar thing could be said about Live: once your subscription runs out, you can't play the online portion of all your games anymore
I was simply correcting a common context error many seem to make. The punctuation part...just needed to be done. Oh and to add to yours: "once your subscription runs out, you can't play the online portion of all your games or any other gold related features." You know, because some people use a gold membership for more than competitive play. You get an agree from me.
Word And an agree from me
"meanwhile on ps+ they are giving away games new and old for free" Stop paying for PSN+ and see if Sony lets you keep those games. That's what I thought. NEXT!
Stop paying for Xbox Live and see if you can still play your games online or use ANY of the services you ALREADY pay for if you use them in the first place. That's what I thought. NEXT!!!!
It's crazy. when Live first launched with its "point system" for making payments I always was thinking "hey, they should make achievement points translate to money or discounts". Now, years later, they finally do it... kinda. Better than nothing indeed.
Well you are clearly completely against Microsoft no matter what they do. Achievements arent dumb, they have added literally days more playing time to the shortest game for me and the people who love unlocking them. Xbox live is well worth the money for one reason alone. Party chat, I dont pay a home phone bill because of it. Instead of paying a randomly generated number to talk to sales reps i pay a fixed amount of money to talk to friends and family while fighting dragons in Skyrim or beating those same friends and family in any number of competitive multiplayer games. Anything else that comes with a Gold membership is an added bonus for me. I have nearly 100.000 gamescore so just for enjoying playing lots of games and earning achievements in them i get 2% knocked off of what is basically my phone bill. (Im usually spend hours a day just in party chat. It would cost a ton to do that with a phone)
Now I agree Live is nice to have and don't mind paying but your comment has confused me. Why would you not buy a home phone just because of party chat? Sure it's a great feature but if you're serious about it I'm just a little confused.
@Claud3 "I am not even connected to live what so ever and never will. I will not pay £16 or £25 or even £40 for a gold member ship since i think because its a total waste of money and it sucks as a service big time." Nice trolling, but how would you know if the service sucks when you've never been connected to it (in your own words)?
Thank you, Microsoft for saving me a whole $1.20 OFF a 60 game. With those savings I can now afford a Double Cheeseburger from McDonald's.
@Zachmo U make me laugh. Bubbles for you :)
It's unbelievable that you managed to get 28 agree's for such a ridiculous rant....Then again this is n4g sooooooo...
Still stupid this idea as its so easy to exploit achievements. I remember when they first started that guy who had 100k in a few months he had the EU,US and Jap version all 1000GS in several games. All it takes is a save game editor and a few other things so I read. This is not possible on ps3 as achievements are not done in the same way, so you cannot just load up a save and get achievements at least for most games. Some games its still possible.
What is the special gift considering its value is only 15p????? I am not so knowledgable about the live gamer score thing but how hard is it to get to this level
Probably a party hat or a present as a avatar item.
every retail game is 1,000 gamer score. Some have more with additional DLC. So about 25 games maxed out. Arcade games are like 200, but I think they raised it.
Some games go to 400 now but to my knowledge thats only minecraft.
1% rebate on all purchases -___- Can't be arsed with that...
i always thought microsoft were cheap now it's confirmed seriously 2%..... really?
$1.20 off a year of live with 25k gamerscore whoop dee doo..... -__-
A 2% rebate? Really? How about something I'll actually notice.
Don't think of it as 2% off. Think of it as for every $3,000 dollars you spend you get a free game! /s
LOL Just thinking so to not being so disappointed
@brish brilliant :D
One of the article comments had it right. If they really wanted to give us a reward without really giving us anything, they would let us pay without going through their insulting points system.
I see them not attaching a monetary value to so it tricks the brain into thinking you are getting more /spending less than you actually are. (Not trolling) Kind of like in a casino, sit down at a slot machine or anything electronic and you can go through a bunch of money looking at credits rather than actual money. It's a sub conscious thing. You ever sit down at a quarter machine at a carnival where you push coins/prizes off a ledge. I will spend 10 dollars on those easily to knock a shot glass filled with quarters worth about 3 dollars. You start with a dollar and use the winnings then add just a little bit more over and over. You end up spending more in the long run because you are not handing over dollars you are using credits.
LOOK_AT_THIS_I is right, but the main reason was so they had a universal price for content. They release a game or piece of content and simply have 1 price attached to it, say 400MS. Sony have to release a game and then say "ok it will be US$5, but 3.5£, 6 Deutschmark, etc". Then you get people from different regions complaining saying "it's cheaper in region x than it is here". Microsoft have one price for all, it's just the conversion rate of $ to MS points that changes.
@wiilove That actually makes a lot of sense. Points are points regardless of where you are. Not sure the rate of exchange but I know Aussies were always bitching about how expensive a lot of content is there. You may spend more for the card but its advertised at the same rate
Earning achievements actually has meaning now (no matter how miniscule it may be).
Looks like it's time to go pick up all the easy achievement games like Naruto.
I thought it was Avatar.
If your interested may i suggest you play.... http://www.xbox360achieveme... Apparently takes less than 5 mins to get them all...
meh. Better than nothing I guess
'Nothing' ...would have been better than this. All this demonstrates is that MS are a tight bunch of ......and they don't really give a rats ass about their users.
Wow your logic is completely broken. So this is literally your point, you would rather pay FULL PRICE than receive ANY DISCOUNT? See how stupid that sounds?
He's right though. The discount you need 25k GamerScore to get translates to almost nothing. Maths to back it up: Avatar Prop: 80 MS Points, 78.4 with 2% discount. Avatar costume: 320 MS Points / 313.8 after discount. Geometry Wars Evolved: 400 MS Points / 392 points after discount. Borderlands 2 Season Pass: 2400 MS Points / 2352 points after discount. Assuming the lowest amount of MS Points you can buy is 400, you'd need to buy 250 props, 63 Avatar costumes, 50 copies of Geometry Wars Evolved, and 9 Borderlands 2 Season Passes to have earned enough of a discount to get 400 points for free. Don't bash the guy for calling MS out on an empty rewards program that hardly does anything. It'd almost have been better not to have introduced this, as the rewards given back are so meager it's almost insulting.
.....Move along. Aint nothing to see here.
im a huge xbox fan and i love my xbox live. im glad MS is doing this but really this is not enough. atleast give us free games for being on XBL like PSN. or a higher discount than 2% percent. seriously...
They actually tried this 6 yrs. ago it was sponsored by Old Spice, earn a certain amount of achievement pts. and earn a tshirt and actual games
a) 2% and you have to earn it. B) 100%(free) and you don't have to earn it. + discounts. . Which one is better?
Yeah but its not free is it? PSN+ is a subscription based service. Why is that even being comparedt this anyway? Why aren't we comparing it to the rewards you get for unlocking trophies? (none).
Because you need a gold membership for it to be benificial
They actually had a reward system for a short time on psn. They would give you a special avatars for reaching a certain level but was discontinued. I got several avatars and a t-shirt from Sony. I'm sure a program of this sort will come as a feature next gen seeing as how it has already implemented before. Good deal for the Xbox users. It may not seem like much but eventually it will add up. I don't get how you so many of you guys on here can find something to bitch about at all times. It's free it is an added value and it hurts nobody in the process. I swear some of you would bitch about getting a million dollars in one dollar bills because it would be an inconvenience.
You're comparing apples to oranges. It's more like if you worked a job where you are paid monthly, and your boss told you "Hey, you've been a hard-working member of this company for 5 years, so here's an extra $1.20 on your paycheck every month." It's not people finding something to bitch about. MS's original rewards program is excellent and I think it's a nice step forward. Adding on an extra $1.20 tops off of a $60 game purchase is just confusing. Especially if you consider they were playing with the idea of rewarding gamers based on GamerScore years ago, this almost feels like them saying "hey look, we listened, here you go!" It feels like a total cop-out. And if you want to bring up the fact that the 2% discount is something at least, think again. See my math above to see just how much of a return that gets you. I wouldn't count on anything significant before the next console cycle.
Still, it should have Been emplemented at the start
You people are crying about getting a discount nor playing games? Wow. I noticed most of the complainers don't even have 360's.
Pretty cool though I wish the 2% was applied to the purchase up front.
Legend! I AM ALL THAT IS MAN! But sadly, I'm almost positive that this "birthday gift" will be an avatar item. In the fine print it says it'll only be worth .25 USD