1up.com editors pick the hottest games at this year's Tokyo Game Show.
Is like the Fox News of the video game world. Spin, spin, spin.
lol... Where are the 360 games? This is hardly any news to take serious. This guy is on Sony's nuts like no other!!
1up is up Sony's ass.
IGN is up Sony's ass.
Gamepro is a bunch of Sony fanboys.
I am just getting to the point where I just don't care anymore.
Do I agree with all of the editors? No, but they do have "some" and I put empahsis on the word "some", experience with the PS3.
There isn't one person who posts here that can say that. ("Maybe")
Do I think that the gaming community has influenced some of these editors to go out of their way to support one console over the other? Yes, I do. If you received hatemail and threats about some article you wrote from a certain (gaming) community, I just don't see how that could not influence you to some extent.
And yes, there are fanboys that work at these places. There are probably some that post right here or other boards with us and we don't even know it.
Its the only reason why there are different opinions spread among this report. Some say the PS3 killed and some say that they bombed.
Who is right?
Who is wrong?
Who is influenced by the gaming community?
Who has their own unbiased opinion?
We just don't know! And guess what, we will never know!
We are just supposed to believe that these reports and opinions are fair and unbiased.
They may be "professionals", but they are still people and they still have emotions. And emotions can affect the way you view something or how you express your opinions.
Would I want their jobs right now? No F'n Way! It must be like walking on glass.
I have my own views of why I went with one console over another. I won't get into that now though. But why couldn't one of these editors feel the same way that I or someone else does?
Journalism is dirty work! And no matter how many times you express your opinion, there will always be someone there to tell you:
"No, You're Wrong"
sites like 1up and mags like EGM that are notoriously pro Sony all you want. The fact remains, however, that no matter what system you prefer, there are obviously quality games on ALL systems. Since Nintendo wasn't at TGS, I'll leave them out for now. To completely leave out 360 games is obviously fanboish and shows the immature nature of a site like 1up.
There are three 360 games from TGS that should be on everyone's list, Lost Planet, Lost Odyssey, and Blue Dragon. The lines at TGS and accolades from true gamers and non-biased press back this up. Yes, there are also some quality looking PS3 games that should be on people's lists, like White Knight, Motorstorm, Lair, etc. If someone only listed 360 games, Sony supporters would be screaming like hyenas. Both systems have great offerings and games from both systems should be on a 'best of' list. To completely leave one system off the list is extremely pathetic and shows a complete lack of journalistic integrity. No one but fanboys believes this crap.
If people can't except that good games can be on any system, then they've got some serious growing up to do. I expect this out of 13 year old fanboys, but not people that run a 'supposed' video game site that 'covers' all systems. 1up/EGM are trash.
All you have to do is take a look at what Sony provided at TGS06 and you could easily see why they deserved to come out on top at tgs. The had playable demos that where beautiful "and yes better looking then the 360's games" and fun to play.
You fanboys seem to have your consoles shoved far down your throats if you truly belive that the PS3 didn't have visually stunning games. Now everyone deserves to have their own opnions but the only reason all of you are still hating on Sony is because they actually delivered some better games then what we have come to expect up to this point on the 360.
Saying these journalists are biased is just plain idiotic when all of these same magazines came down hard on Sony after E3 "rightfully so" but when they have seen that the PS3 actual has potenital that are at least open minded enought to see what the PS3 has to offer to us as gamers.
I will buy a PS3 and a Wii to go along with my 360 and will support all of these consoles and what they have to offer but people who make comments negative about the same old stuff even after Sony has proven that the PS3 is indeed worth $600 because of its capabilities.
Gears of War and Halo 3 will be great games I am sure but all you fan boys have been singing their praises since the 360 released "wait till GOW and Halo 3 you will see which console is better" same old same old. Blur Dragon and Lost Odessey also look good but compared to the FF series or White Knight they are virtually nothing that Asian gamers will get all excited about.
1080P sure noone really has the tv's right now capable of displaying a 1080P signal but it doesn't matter the games will still be more impressive on a standard set then 360 games are.
This is a similar excuse that 360 fans use "the games don't look that much better then the orginal Xbox because you don't have an HDTV" things like this work both ways.
In the end you pay more for the PS3 and you miss Halo 3 and Gears of War but Sony fans will get all of thoose games that turned then into Sony fans in the first place.
Anytime people don't say what you want them to many of you yell biased. If MS or an affilate talks about Sony they are biased and the same things goes for Sony and their affilates who talk about the 360's.
So just sit back relax and realize that just because they don't agree with you that does not mean they are biased.
that looks at the fact that the leap from xbox to 360 won't be as big as ps2 to ps3 because the xbox already was graphically superior to the ps2? both companies have about a equal height which they can attain graphically based on available technology. if a bar is set at 10' and one company has a 7' pole and the other has a 4' pole, the distance added to reach 10' is more noticable on the 4' pole. it stands out more, and is more distinguishable because it took more to get to the same level. as far as your other points Bishop, people always take what they want out of everything. they hear and see what they want to. they'll take the 2% of an article that justifies their position, while ignoring the 98% that doesn't. all everything boils down to is personal opinion. unfortunately a lot of people here take personal opinion too personally.
Reason why PS3 was the highlight of TGS was because it's the first time anyone got their hands it. People were excited. Even if the game was rubbish they got to play it. For the first time. They were thrilled. That is all. If PS3 was played at e306 and at Leip and wii hasn't, wii would've been the highlight of the TGS.
Simple as that. Sony did a good job. I'm not impressed with what I've seen, but they did a great job at this years TGS. :D
they played PS3 games at E3 2006 and at Leipzig...
your point has no value. Maybe PS3 just had awesome games more than any other console?
agreed Karibu. Sony makes a few missteps, now everyone wants to make up an excuse when they actually do something RIGHT.
Videos and Ports do not count. :)
Strange, I've listened to latest editions of the 1up show, Gamespot presents the hotspot and the IGN games podcast and they UNIVERSALLY looked upon the PS3's showing at TGS as a major dissapointment. Most, if not all of the editors were dissapointed by the PS3 games shown on the floor as well (Most liked the MGS trailer).
I'm not going to take the time to transcribe the podcasts, but this isn't my bias, it was just startling to hear them talk so openly in an anti-Sony fashion.
Their sentiments seemed to ring right along with those on this site, the price is too high, the games don't look good enough to justify the price, Sony has shown nothing about their online, framerate problems in most games except Ridge Racer, nobody has a 1080p television, etc.
I guess the editors on the Podcasts don't write the articles and can't stand up to their own writers.
pretty surprising that none of the Xbox 360 games were on the list. it should at least been up for best Action title, but i guess not.
i like White Knight a lot because it wasn't the typical turn-base battle. i think that's where Lost Oddessy lost points from. so i think RPG section was correct IMO.
let's all agree that these rankings are just all personal OPINIONS by these 1up individuals.
wow, I didn't even read the article yet somehow I knew the outcome. am I psychic?
How am I acting like a fanboy? Did you even read my post? Let me guess, you read the first sentence and the last one. Here, go back and read it over......
Now, as you can see, I specifically said ALL consoles have great things to offer. The PS3 has games that should be on the 'best of' list. And....now here's what must have pissed you off...the 360 has games that should be on the list as well.
You're defending the fact that a website completely left off deserving games, that had some of the longest lines at TGS and received praise from nearly all other sites/press, just because they are on the 360. I'm sorry, my friend, you are defending fanboism.
Me saying there are great offerings on all systems is the exact opposite of fanboy. Only praising one system's games and ignoring games on others is the exact definition of fanboy.
My suggestion to you is to actually read someone's post before you bash it. For the record, the biggest fanboy in all of video game journalism (Shane) works for 1up and EGM. Both 1up and EGM are notorious for posting/printing tabloid-like things just to insite fanboy riots. Both are trash and have been trash for awhile. Any website where an editor actually uses the phrase 'Xbots' to describe those that own a 360 is a fanboy website....and is trash.
Oh, and while you're at it. Explain to me why I see great games on both sides. Explain to me why the videos I see of PS3 games don't look better than videos I see of 360 games. I've seen some good looking PS3 games (White Knight, Lair, Motorstorm), but I've also seen some good looking 360 games (GoW, Mass Effect, Bioshock, Assassins Creed). I have not seen either systems out muscle the other. White Knight looks beautiful. Mass Effect looks stunning. I can't see how anyone could say PS3 games look better, or 360 games look better. They both have stunning looking games.
Personal preferences are a different story. You can tell me that you are more interested in PS3 games, or vice versa. But to say PS3 games look better is just stupid. I just don't see it, and I've watched videos from both systems in the same resolution. The only people saying one system's games look better than the other are fanboys, like 1up.
"Both 1up and EGM are notorious for posting/printing tabloid-like things just to insite fanboy riots. Both are trash and have been trash for awhile." by that statement alone i can say that you're an anti-1up/EGM fanboy. would i be wrong? probably not. but that still doesn't negate the fact that a) you could be right about your assertion that 1up and EGM prefer Sony, and b) thats you own personal OPINION. thats what these gamers called 1up editors expressed...their own OPINIONS. opinions are neither right nor wrong, they're judgements based on personal deductions. who are we to dictate which opinion is right and which is wrong? you say its stupid to think that PS3 games look better than 360: someone else can say that it's stupid NOT to think PS3 games look better than 360. neither of you may be wrong in your opinion, but you ARE/WOULD BE wrong for calling other people's opinions stupid. if you like both systems equally then i can only applaud you. however, you cannot slam someone else simply because they may prefer one over the other, especially if they've given both a fair chance. you have a lot of PS3 fanboys who have probably never held an XBox controller in their hands slamming the system: vice-versa with 360 fanboys and PS3. these are the true people to slam, not some editor who's sharing his own opinion. opinions are subjective abstractions: right and wrong are objective absolutes--the two just don't mix.
My point is not to say their opinion is wrong. My point is that these people claim to be a multi-console website and in reality this is not the case. If PS3land named their favorite games and they were all PS3 games, I would have no problem with it. If Teamxbox named their favorite games and they were all 360 games, I would have no problem with that either. Plus, I didn't say claiming that PS3 games look better than 360 games was 'wrong'. I said it was stupid, as there are great looking games on both systems. This is my opinion. However, I believe that most of the people that claim one system looks better than the other really hasn't looked at the games from the other system. Hence, my comment of stupid. I realize this is an assumption on my part, but I think the odds are stacked in my favor. Most fanboys don't give all games a good, hard look. Just the games on their preferred system.
What I do have a problem with is websites and mags claiming to 'cover' all systems, but in reality are really only using their multi-system 'coverage' to promote one system and unreasonably bash others. It's plainly obvious that all systems have something to offer. In addition, 1up/EGM are notorious for posting/printing obvious fanboy articles just to get attention, like tabloids. They use words like 'Xbots' and spread completely false rumors that have absolutely no chance of coming true, just to start fanboy arguements. This, I think, is trash. It is not respectable journalism. It is a tabloid.
Again, my point is not to say opinions are wrong. It is, however, to say that anything that spews from 1up is like reading "Paris Hilton has Devil Baby" in a tabloid at your local market. 1up/EGM have no credibility and are trash.
The 360 guys are turning on and attacking every game site that says positive things about the PS3, including the ones that they've been using as 'proof that the 360 pwnes the PS3', haha.
Sony won TGS by a landslide. That's what happened and that's what the majority of them are saying. If you look at the previous outlook of sites like 1up.com, they were very, very critical about Sony's poor E3 showing. Even PS3 fans admitted that the show wasn't up to snuff. But now that we've got proof of PS3's superiority and popularity, suddenly we're all accused of being biased and being unfair to the 360? Whoa. I didn't know being truthful constituted lying.
Well, it probably stems from the fact that some of the 360 fanatics have been yelling "Sony Lies!" for the past 5 months, and now that those 'CG Lies' look attainable they don't want to admit that they were wrong. Worse yet for them, Sony even listened to the press and the fans and upgraded the system so that every PS3 has built-in HDMI 1.3
Talk about great customer-service. And the damn thing hasn't even launched yet. Sony's changed the specs for their system multiple times since it was unveiled to the world at last year's E3, and finally the world has stopped whining after the final change was made. Games are what really matter, and the PS3 is definitely winning in that department. Every single top title in 1up's list was a PS3 game, and as far as I can tell those really were the top games of TGS. Microsoft made a worthy attempt with some clever rhetoric, but in terms of physical gameplay they just didn't deliver on the promise.
You seem to be just the type of fanboy I'm talking about. How many 360 games have you really looked at? Have you been paying attention to X06?
Saying MS hasn't deliver on games is just ridiculus. Why don't you go take a look at Mass Effect, Bioshock, GoW, Assassins Creed, Lost Odyssey, Lost Planet, Splinter Cell: DA, Forza 2, and Blue Dragon. Compare those videos side by side with Motorstorm, White Knight, Lair, Resistance, etc.
True gamers look at the games and appreciate good games for what they are. I appreciate PS3 games, but I wouldn't claim Sony delivered on their original hardware specs. Both SKUs are still a lot different than originally promised. You forget that Sony dropped HDMI from the lower SKU and what happened to dual HDMIs like originally promised. Sony didn't upgrade the system, it put back what it dropped. I also don't think Sony has lived up to its promise of blowing the 360 out of the water. Finally, Sony has at least shown some quality. It's not the be all end all, however. Sony has also yet to prove it's online service.
What about Next-Gen.Biz's TGS game rankings? At least they're a lot more reputable than 1up. IGN, even though it recieves paychecks from Sony, is WAY more reputable than 1up. IGN does have some Sony bias, but at least they acknowledge quality from all systems, including the 360. I don't care if someone likes PS3 games more than 360 games, rankes them higher, or whatever. But to completely not acknowledge quality from the other systems is pathetic.
Don't be a push off now man...first of all you are comparing 3rd-gen 360 software with the first-gen PS3 one, and while we are at it, everybody knows including yourself that even in the first-gen lineup, PS3's titles are exhibiting technical superiority over 360's with system-specific engines to procedural synthesis to 1080p etc., you know.
2ndly the numbers are great, there are around 30 titles with more super ones announced each day, the best Ninja Gaiden(Sigma) on earth is a PS3 exclusive, FNR3 has more detail on PS3, Virtua Tennis is more detailed on PS3 even when its in the first-gen lineup over PS3. Now we know that the biggest reason uptil so far of having a 360 (Oblivion) has ended, because its coming on PS3 with 'improvements' and you know there is this HDD that enables games to literally kill pop-up! so, you got the point. Now with such strength from Day1, why wouldn't anyone be impressed ?!!!
Moreover to add up, the suprior titles from TGS are certainly:
-White Knight Story(Immense Surprise)
-Devil May Cry 4
-Genji 2(yeah now even its beauty is globally approved)
-Ninja Gaiden Sigma
-Eye Of Judgement
And these are only the more competitive ones...you are right about gears of war with mass effect and too human, but you know they all look the same, and its a shame that even after a whole year of 360's launch, the best games on it are going to be middle-ware based like Unreal Engine, I just wonder why doesn't even first-party titles making good use of the 360 hardware. Forza 2, we don't know much about, right now GTHD basing upon the PS2 engine is standing face to face with PGR3, not to mention what would GT5 be with a true next-gen engine...Bioshock...well its in the same league as Darkness, PDZero etc. and also that it might be coming out on PS3 next year, so there you have it. Undoubtedly PS3's impact at TGS was grand, and obviously world enjoys what promises entertainment at its best !!!
TGS is actually Sony's show anyway, All of the japs love Sony thats why they bloody liked PS3 So much, X06 is MS's show and Imo was better than TGS, The games that were shown were stunning, The best Nextgen games I've seen so far and its only going to get better, Face it. And screw 1UP And Gamepro, They are all Sony lovers.
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