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Submitted by -Mezzo- 816d ago | opinion piece

Actually, It is Kinda B.S. That Bayonetta 2 is a Wii U Exclusive

Kotaku - It's funny when anyone on the Internet flips out, but no one does it better than the video gamer. When the issue involves someone not getting what they want, when they want it, at the price they want it—and you yourself don't want it—it's entertaining as hell watching someone break into a Rumplestiltskenian fit on the way to a total meltdown and an Internet petition or two. It's like going to a dunking booth and seeing actual hate in the clown's eyes. Boy, that guy is unhinged. (Bayonetta 2, Wii U)

Carl_Shocker  +   816d ago
Whats this...a logical well thought out article by Kotaku

...think I need to sit down
PopRocks359  +   816d ago
We clearly read a different article. You're aware this game would not even exist without Nintendo, right?
wishingW3L  +   816d ago
who knows what the future holds. PG are a small independent company that depends on finding a publisher to publish their games and Bayonetta is one of their best, if not, their absolute best IP yet. Making it exclusive to one platform is a mistake.

What are they going to do now? Keep making more games for Nintendo since they can't find any other publishers to publish their games? Are they going to become second party or something? What else can they create that is better than Bayonetta?
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PopRocks359  +   816d ago
@wishingW3L

"Bayonetta is one of their best, if not, their absolute best IP yet."

Which wouldn't have a sequel had Nintendo not stepped in. That's gratitude for ya.
FriedGoat  +   816d ago
It's ok guys, with the underpowered consoles nintendo puts out, we'll be emulating it in a year. And no, i'm not talking about piracy, you can buy the game and play.
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OmegaSlayer  +   816d ago
I find funny how everyone cheers Nintendo.
The problem is that Sega still funds Yakuza titles (that are really niche titles) and not a game that sold 2 millions of copies across 2 platforms.
SilentNegotiator  +   815d ago
You're aware that Nintendo wouldn't have had to "save" B2 if not for the fact that SEGA ran away from a franchise that sold TWO MILLION copies on its first release, right? So cut this "gratitude" crap out. All Nintendo did was swoop in while those idiots were still banging their heads on the wall.

It's a perfectly competent franchise with perfectly incompetent businessmen.
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MaxXAttaxX  +   815d ago
Anyone could've picked it up. Nintendo weren't the only ones capable of such easy task.
And it IS BS for all those fans that played on 360 and PS3. Now they have to buy another system just to play the sequel? I don't think so.
PopRocks359  +   815d ago
@NathanExplosion

"Anyone could've picked it up."

But no one but Nintendo did.

The point is Nintendo are the ones funding it. And in doing so got themselves another exclusive specifically for core gamers. So two things that I've seen N4G commenters bitch and moan about were just killed with one stone.

Bayonetta gets its sequel and Nintendo gets another core exclusive. Yet all anyone can do is complain.

Well, whatever. I was getting a Wii U anyway, so I'm not going to make an ass out of myself by going to PG's Twitter and tell them how shitty they and their games are, or act like this never happens with other games on other consoles.

By the way, if players had to get a PS4/Nextbox to play this game, I guarantee there would be absolutely no complaining.
MaxXAttaxX  +   814d ago
@PopRocks
Nintendo did it as an act of desperation since they refuse to make new core IPs themselves.
But that's not the issue. Most fans of the original are still being screwed and would have to buy another system just to play it <- what don't you understand about that!?

This is a current gen game that could be running on current gen systems like PS3 and 360. Just like Assassin's Creed and Barman.
Your PS4/Nextbox argument is invalid, as those would be true next gen systems worth investing on for a true next gen Bayonetta.

But hey, at least now Nintendo fanboys who barely care about the game in the first place can brag about something.
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PopRocks359  +   814d ago
@NathanExplosion

This comment of yours is a perfect example of a term I've grown used to using when describing incessant haters like yourself.

"WAAAAH Nintendo has no 3rd party exclusives!"

Bayonetta 2 for Wii U announced.

"WAAAH! Why isn't this on MY console?!"

You're such a baby. Were this being announced for the PS4 or Nextbox, you wouldn't complain.

And by the way; how do you know it's a current generation game? Maybe it will use the Wii U's game pad somehow? Or make full use of its hardware (which is CONFIRMED to be stronger than what is out right now)?

And one final point I'd like to make; why the hell would Nintendo start making mature games when they can ask people who are GOOD at making such games provide the content? That's like asking Pixar to make an R rated film.

Oh but you don't care. Everything has to go your way because the world revolves around you. I tell you what, the next time a formerly Nintendo affiliated company like Rare and all of its IPs wind up on a different platform, guess who won't be seeing bitching and moaning like a little kid?
MaxXAttaxX  +   814d ago
Wow are you ok dude? Suddenly decided to unleash your fanboy rage, huh.
You think I'm hating on Nintendo? I never even said Nintendo should make a "mature" game. I said new IP. Which is a sentiment shared with Shigeru Miyamoto himself when he said he wanted to see new franchises, but they won't because their devs' schedules are backed up with the same franchises. So to his(and mine) disappointment, the heads at Ninty won't do it, for that reason and "tradition".
I am a Nintendo fan that wants to see more from them. I'm just not a blind one.

Anyway, I made a valid point but you decided to shift the subject and attack.

I already told you that bringing up the PS4 and Nextbox is invalid, as these systems would have specs beyond current gen platforms(360, PS3, WiiU). It would be a bigger LEAP worth investing on.

The Xbox and GameCube were also more powerful than the PS2 (CONFIRMED) with better lighting and whatnot, just like the Wii U will be vs the PS3/360. They'll still run the same games.

You're an example of a fanboy that pretends to care about a game because it's suddenly exclusive.

Again, it IS bs for the fans of the first game expecting a sequel, only to find out they have to buy another console just to play a game that could run on their current platforms (as was initially planned). Clearly you're not one of them.
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PopRocks359  +   814d ago
Fanboy rage, eh? Clever argument. Oh wait.

Actually, I own the first game on the PS3 and I enjoy it. Don't make assumptions about me just because I just happen to be defending here.

Fans of the first game should be pleased since Kamiya and another of Platinum Games have already confirmed that Bayonetta 2 would not exist without Nintendo. No one else was going to pick it up despite you're idiotic insistence of the opposite. Instead all they can do is whine and complain like crybabies. Boo-frickedy-hoo. If they're such big "fans" they'd buy the console and be done with it. The same thing would apply if Eternal Darkness 2 were on PS4. So again, don't make assholey assumptions.

You can refute that all you want. The only one you're fooling is yourself.

EDIT: As for your claims about the Wii U being on par with current generation consoles, explain to me why Black Ops 2 and other 3rd party multiplatform games are running at 1080p on Wii U and not on the 360 or PS3. Bias for Nintendo? Nintendo bribed the publishers? I'd LOVE to hear your reasoning on this one.
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MaxXAttaxX  +   814d ago
Buying a new system just for one game and getting it over with must be so easy for you. It is still BS to have to do it in the first place. I don't blame Nintendo for this. But still BS.

You think I'm hating on Nintendo just because I said that? I never even said Nintendo should make a "mature games". I said NEW IPs. Which is a sentiment shared with Shigeru Miyamoto himself when he said he wanted to see new franchises, but they won't because their devs' schedules are backed up with the same franchises. So to his(and mine) disappointment, the heads at Ninty won't do it, for that reason and "tradition". Freaking GOOGLE IT.
I am a Nintendo fan that wants to see more from them. I'm just not a blind one. I'm not hating on them, I am talking about one game, period. But you just jumped all over with your fanboy outburst.

>>> I NEVER denied that the Wii U would be more powerful. The Xbox and GameCube were also more powerful than the PS2 (CONFIRMED) with better lighting, polish and whatnot, just like the Wii U will be vs the PS3/360. I NEVER denied it. They'll still run the same games. The only difference is that PS2, GC and Xbox were all released pretty much at the sane time, not 6/7 years apart. <<<

*sigh* What a raging fanboy....

Clearly you don't care much about the game as much as you care about defending a company.
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ShinMaster  +   811d ago
The Wii U is like a Wii 2.0
It's a system more powerful, BUT with comparable performance to current gen systems. It will quickly turn into a last gen system when PS4 and Xbox720 are announced. Just like the Wii.

All there will be left is the gimmick and ports.
For example, with the Wii it was the Wiimote and ports like Okami. With the Wii 2.0 it will be the gamepad and ports like Batman:AA.
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Nimblest-Assassin  +   816d ago
You realize Kotaku wrote an article telling people complaining about the wiiU were wrong saying it has hardcore titles and people bitching should stop, and then they publish this

They are as good as TMZ or some other trash site... all they want to do is rile people up, so they get hits
Darth Stewie  +   816d ago
Wow a article about BS from a site that usually gives BS news.

cough FFvs13 cancelled cough
dark-hollow  +   816d ago
its really shitty for a franchise to flip flop from one console to another, but this situation is a little bit different.

could anybody blame square enix for jumping on the playstation platforms? no, because its all nintendos fault that they went with limited cartridge format while sony went with much better media format for the ps1, ffvii till ffxiii would never be the same if they stayed on nintendo platforms, it was for the better of the series, and am sure if the internet was as relevant that day as it today, it would be a major uproar from nintendo fanboys, but in the end, sure those gamers had to buy a new system to play FF but it was for the better in the end, even for them themselves!

with bayonetta case, sega simply abandoned the franchise and had no intention to release a sequel to the 360/ps3, and seriously no third major party developers would fund platinum to publish bayonetta 2 because the first one had quite low sales. nintendo i assume took it in an attempt to regain some hardcore gamers trust in their brand, while sure it wont set the world on fire, but it was basically the easiest deal they could get, and despite the sales it is a pretty damn solid game IMO.

if you are really angry at this (and rightfully so) you should direct that to sega themselves for not supporting the game in any way. platinum after all wont sit right there forever waiting for any publisher to take the rights from sega and release it on 360/ps3.
Carl_Shocker  +   816d ago
I could be mad at Platinum aswell for not looking for a publisher who wold release it on all platforms......someone would of done it if they looked around and had a few business meetings
dark-hollow  +   816d ago
looking for a new publisher is not a walk through the supermarket! its not like they make an ad on craiglist "publish our game k thnkx bye"
first off, you have to consider that publishers have a lot of control and influence on the development process, some publishers abuse their developers by giving limited space for creativty, a small budget or a very short deadline, and i think you are fully aware of how a bad publisher could hands down destroy your franchise and screw you up! (activision with infinityward, EA with god knows how many developers they screwed them over, and etc. etc.) that, and am sure even though bayonetta didnt sell too well, a publisher would need to pay sega even more money for the rights of the IP. it just doesnt worth it for major third party publishers.

am sure platinum were fully aware about this problem and in the end, lets not be entitled and selfish! going with a shitty developer could end the franchise as we know it, and am sure nintendo like sony isnt the kind of publisher that put too much pressure on their studios and screw them over like EA or acti.
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Shok  +   816d ago
Somethin' good to read:

http://www.theverge.com/gam...
wishingW3L  +   816d ago
PR bullcrap. =3
Sgt_Slaughter  +   815d ago
......

Going to The Hangover for this one cause I'm too sick to think of a new one...

"You are literally too stupid to insult."
smashcrashbash  +   816d ago
I just like how people are going ballistic about games most people didn't even care about in the first place. Bayonetta and Rayman sold horribly across multiple systems and it had nothing to do with graphics, gameplay or anything like that.And now suddenly EVERYONE is running around boasting and spitting and kicking up a fuss as if Nintendo just found gold or something. If Nintendo just said 'We are publishing the next GTA' or 'the next GT' or 'the next Gears of War' I can see why people would kick up a fuss. But so far there have been a thousands of articles about games that most people didn't even give a crap about enough to play them.

Rayman will be overshadowed by Mario and Bayonetta 2 most of the people who liked it would probably run after it while anyone else STILL won't give a crap and it will probably sell as well every other game like it like Madworld. People keep dancing around saying 'We have Bayonetta 2, what a smart and clever move by Nintendo' but in reality if it was so great and popular and system changing Sega wouldn't have thrown it out and Platinum would never have made it single platform.

So I can only assume that all these articles are being made by over zealous Nintendo fanboys who seem to think they have something or trolls who just like poking and prodding at said fanboys.Her is the latest from an overzealous fanboy. 'Maybe since Sony needs money they will start giving franchises like GOW to Nintendo and we will be able to play them on the Wii U'. Really? So can we stop the articles about a game that got tossed aside by both gamers and it's publisher and stop talking about it as if it is gold.By letting it be published by a single company they may have already lost out on the fans that own the PC, PS3 and 360 on an off chance that it MIGHT sell better on the Wii U.So can we please STOP the crying and boasting and whining and move on.
RyuX19  +   816d ago
If you've never played the game then you can just simply ignore these articles because you aren't going to understand a damn thing about why this is important to us.
rainslacker  +   816d ago
Maybe you can tell us why it's important to you? While your at it you can tell us which you prefer...

Option A) Nintendo publishes the game so fans can play it.

Option B) Game doesn't get picked up and you never get to play it ever on any system.
RyuX19  +   816d ago
@rainslacker

Okay well first off let me state that I am not one of the rabid fan boys foaming at the mouth, but I was very angry in the beginning. I am glad that this game exist, and if Nintendo truly did save the game then I guess I should be thanking them.

The problem for me is that the WiiU was never on my radar as something to buy. Never wanted it and never cared to get it because I was very disappointed with the 3DS and felt it was waste of money and I should have never bought it.

I was content with the consoles I have at the moment and I've been waiting for a sequel to Bayo since I beat it back in 2010 and when I finally get it I have to pay over $300 dollars just to get it. I don't have the money to just spend over $300 dollars on something that will most likely collect dust like my original Wii and 3DS.

Maybe in a year things will be different; the WiiU might have some games that are worth it and it might be cheaper, but right now it is out of the question. I'd love to support this game and buy it day one for $60 dollars, but since it's on a WiiU I can't.
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rainslacker  +   815d ago
I can't really fault you for your reasons for not getting the game, and I understand why your disappointed in this situation. I think your reasons will fall on deaf ears though, as it's just kind of the way it is, and I don't believe either PG or Nintendo did anything wrong here. Unfortunately it seems the people complaining the most aren't giving this reason and instead blaming the companies for what they're doing like PG and Nintendo ran over their cat or something. Just looking at the guy calling for the boycott, his reasons are completely illogical and reek of a "look at me" attitude.
mike1up  +   816d ago
Enough already...

Is there some kind of new Achievement/Trophy for whining about Bayonetta 2?
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WeskerChildReborned  +   816d ago
Well some people should be happy that Nintendo brought it back since if they didn't, their may never would of been a Bayonetta 2.
KMCROC  +   816d ago
From the looks of things their will never be a bayonetta 2 for those fans of the first unless they buy the underpowered Wii U. which is still a slap in the face to fans.
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WeskerChildReborned  +   816d ago
It's good for the fans if they are already planning on buying a Wii U.
Sono421  +   815d ago
I see your having a very hard time understanding that it's either option...

A) Published by Nintendo and released on Wii U.

or

B) Published by no one and never released.
The_Infected  +   816d ago
If everyone's mad about Bayonetta being WiiU exclusive buy a WiiU and STFU. That simple. It's just $300 or $350 and you can get the game your crying over and other great games aside from Bayonetta.
FriedGoat  +   816d ago
Yes but i'm not going to buy a wiiU JUST for bayonetta, Its a waste of money. will just wait a year or so and get an emulator. Thats the good thing about nintendo making underpowered consoles. Bought a 3ds at launch and with the route nintendo is going, NO thanks.
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AznGaara  +   816d ago
.. you expect to emulate a wii-u in a year? You realize that in order for something to be decently emulated the hardware emulating has to be at least twice as good as the original.
Wolfbiker  +   816d ago
So Nintendo TVii doesn't interest you?

Neither does...
Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate?
ZombiU?
Monolith's next game?
Zelda in HD?

My point is Bayonetta 2 isnt $360/$410. There is more to the Wii U than Bayonetta 2. Im sure there will be other experiences you would enjoy other than Bayonetta 2.
Bimkoblerutso  +   816d ago
^I know, that's such BS logic. As if Bayonetta 2 is going to be the ONLY reason to own a Wii U during it's entire life cycle.

Really this just comes back down console wars, plain and simple.
KMCROC  +   816d ago
what other great games are you talking about the rehashing of Mario ,Zelda or are you refering to the ports so on & so forth.
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IWentBrokeForGaming  +   816d ago
Why so many people upset? it was a good game, but great enough to warrant anger? I personally don't think so!

It's good enough Im sure to warrant a purchase on Wii U, but I wouldn't personally look at it as a console seller... by a long shot!
DivineAssault  +   816d ago
Wii U set N4G on fire lol.. Ok ima say, if u nintendo fans like Bayonetta, where did u play it? cuz it wasnt on wii.. & all u wanna be Bayonetta fans, how do u know you will even like it? roughly 2 million sales on 2 well established current gen consoles.. What do u think will happen here? Sega didnt want to do it for a reason.. But they sure as hell published sonic kart racing right? lol this is getting silly.. Im not even reading anything regarding wii u for a long time.. I hope the nx headline is about a new game or feature for it.. Just remember, a developer clearly said it has less cpu power & others say it has a stronger gpu.. will it be a struggle to make things properly for all 3 consoles in the future?
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MacDonagh  +   816d ago
Bayonetta 2 wouldn't exist if it weren't for Nintendo. Also, here's a small collection of quotes from fans showing their gratitude for Bayonetta 2 even coming out.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

Very telling isn't it?
Blacklash93  +   816d ago
It's either this or no Bayonetta 2. SEGA is no position to invest into a sequel of a less than particularly profitable franchise considering their massive cuts that have been going on.

I'm not thrilled that Bayo2 is on another console as a fan of the original, but this franchise deserves to be expanded upon and if this is all that can be done than so be it. I know what I'd want if I had to decide according to the first sentence of this post.
extermin8or  +   816d ago
I can see why it's ended up wii u exclusive and as I hate the whole ip idc that much however tbh I see why people are pissed off but if I'd been PG i'd have had to say when nintendo offered to put up the funds that the fans of the 1st couldn't be left in the cold and really it'd have to be multiplatform however offered a load of exclusive stuff for wii u and say any dlc be exclusive to wii u aswell from what i've heard it doesn't sound like PG really tried to be allowed to make it multiplat at all..... :/
from the beach  +   816d ago
Fans of Platinum Games - ie. fans of videogames - are buying a Wii U anyway, so what's the problem? Dry up those tears and go pre-order your console. Do it fast, they're selling out extremely quickly.
Knushwood Butt  +   816d ago
I think those fans forgot to buy Anarchy Reigns.
_LarZen_  +   816d ago
This Bayonetta2 case proves just 1 thing, that gamer's are spoiled little children.
ChunkyLover53  +   816d ago
Lets see, either there is no Bayonetta 2 or its Wii U exclusive because Nintendo decided to take a chance and publish it? Nope, not BS at all.
NYC_Gamer  +   816d ago
SEGA didn't wanna publish the game.What's so hard to understand?would you rather the project stay scrapped instead of seeing the light of day.
ninjabake  +   816d ago
Kotaku and professionalism just don't go together that well.
EPIKgamer  +   816d ago
I dont see what the big deal is when there have been tons of great games you had to buy the console for, what make Bayonetta 2 the exception, you'd rather waste your time hating on Nintendo because its the cool thing to do then play a great game that almost didn't exist?
metsgaming  +   816d ago
Who would have thought one of the only websites that actually took the time to understands where the angry fans are coming from would be kotaku wow. (Not a Bayonetta fan btw) The fans dont care about the reason why its exclusive because at the end of the day it exists and they would have to spend so much money to play just one game. If they were already interested in the wii u and its other games like a small fraction of its fan base this wouldnt be a problem but it isnt the case.
TheTwelve  +   816d ago
More folks angry about Bayonetta 2 on Wii than bought the game, clearly! Because if more people actually bought the game Sega would have made a sequel! To the idiot who said to only get the game used and not buy it new in order to hurt Nintendo, that kind of logic is probably what made Sega not want to publish the sequel to begin with! Stupid gamers shooting themselves in the foot!

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mamotte  +   816d ago
Because sequels changing between consoles are a new and bad thing when nintendo does it. It's like we've forgotten that MGS were in the NES, FF series in the SNES, it's nothing new. And about the price: I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be a problem if the game were to be released in a Sony or MS new plattform. Everybody would be gladly paying for the console. But for Nintendo? No way. Because no.
BringingTheThunder  +   816d ago
if it wasnt for nintendo, bayonetta 2 wouldnt exist and would just be another cancelled game
Greyslash  +   816d ago
I just find it funny people bitch about Nintendo not having 3rd party support, and when they finally get some...people bitch.
kent80082007  +   815d ago
I don't understand, why would no one publish bayonetta 2?
AO1JMM  +   815d ago
Kotaku: "Hmmmm what can we do to get alot of website hits? hmmmmmm I know lets stir up the Bayonetta fan-boys with more useless trash articles. That is a great idea.... Run with it!"

on topic:

If it wasn't for Nintendo there wouldn't be a Bayonetta 2.

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