CinemaBlend: "All that talk about the Wii U being “weak”, “underpowered”, and not capable of outputting graphics like the Xbox 360 or PS3, is apparently hogwash. Unity Technology's CEO David Helgason squashes the rumors by acknowledging just how far the Wii U's tech can scale and what developers will be capable of utilizing with the Unity alone."
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dx10 meant nothing, dx11 early games barely used it, and most games still don't use it enough.
People seem to think i hate nintendo, i don't. Friends play mario and i've played many games on the Wii.
Do i think the WII U is a massive jump over PS3/360.
No and you'll see this as games come and go, by 2014 you'll be seeing PS4/720, there you will see the jump.
If you love the new controller from ninty and need mario, you will buy a wii u.
It worked for them last time so they are trying the same tactic again lets see how it goes.
Edit: Also if I was thinking about buying a Wii U (which I wont because I am waiting for PS4 and 720 to come out before I decide) I would be very cautious about how much Nintendo will focus on hardcore gamers. Zombie U looks great but I do not feel like games like that will be Nintendos main focus.
It's not that they've become graphics whores, it is that it is frustrating when people make claims that it is not as powerful, when it is in fact more powerful. Like how the same people claimed that the Wii was not as powerful as PS2 or Xbox, when in fact was quite a bit more powerful. Just nothing compared the the PS3/360.
But to be honest, i don,t think sony wll go crazy on ps4 cost either. I think they will try to build something eith good specs but mostly something that can make money straight away.
After the slow adoption of the ps3 and vita at launch Kaz hirai knows that content will makethe difference in the next battle, not power.
it will make more sense to get a new PS3 now and the WiiU later
The WiiU is a next gen console, it should be obvious that its more powerful than the current consoles. The fact thats its not is what causes people to speculate on just how powerful it actually is.
ps : "MS got the right combination"
for easiest devellopment, ok, but the ps3 powerfull cpu made the prettiest games this gen.
The bottom line is WiiU will be first time in a long time Nintendo stepped out the box and is bringing something fresh, innovative and with a wealth of entertainment value. My pre-order is already set. I cannot wait. Till then I will enjoy my PS3.
The GPU is only slightly stronger and the CPU has been outed by developers as being WEAKER.
It's not a generational leap. And this time, it's price is at a disadvantage with the other systems, which are only slightly weaker in graphics to a degree that hardly anyone will notice (and higher in CPU power).
The success of WiiU will be ENTIRELY based on their ability to make interesting uses of the tablet controller that anyone cares about and living off of their IPs (Mario might be popular, but it didn't save the Gamecube).
Now go ahead; call me a troll, fanboy, whatever. But when something is oversold and sensationalized like this, I'm going to be there, whether you like it or not.
May well be good, but from what I have read. The CPU brings the WiiU back down to PS3/360 levels of power.
the reverse of the PS3 where a weak GPU is compensated for by a powerful CPU...
MS got the right combination the first time by being balanced: a reasonably powerful CPU with a reasonably powerful GPU, and quite easier to develop for due their experience in development software...
The Wii U's CPU has a much more efficient architecture. so it doesn't require such high clock speeds as it can do work much easier and more efficiently. Not to mention, like you said, it has a GPGPU.
People will call it damage control but that's the hard facts lol.
You hit the nail on the head. Very valid points you made. The bottom line is the WiiU is next gen. PS4 and Xbox720 will be more powerful but the difference will not be that great. For those that disagree always remember the cost factor. Are you willing to pay $500 or $600 for a console and is Microsoft/Sony (especially Sony) willing to bet that consumer will purchase their next gen consoles at that high price as early adopters. History shows (PS3) that it was a very bad bet.
And the day they might reach it, 'knowing' WiiUpgrades hardware, by then real next gen already is out with Xbox 8 at the end of 2013 and PSOrbis somewhere in 2014.
Which will have CPU's that are really a generation ahead, and not some WiiUpgrade CPU that even is slower than current gen. The real next gen that will have GPU's that are leaps ahead of current gen and not just a tad newer than consoles that are launched in 2005/2006.
The SNES and N64 both pushed great games, N64 pushed 3D in games.
With the Gamecube a bit less already, with the Wii, which had basically overclocked Gamecube chips, Nintendo lost me as a gamer yes. Their focus became sh!t. The focus was put on selling hardware boxes the most, and not care for games. Same with them selling Wiifit hardware, Wiimote Plus hardware addon to fix the inaccurate Wiimote.
And now, the one touch bulky tablet is getting in gimmick control to sell the package again. Plus bringing the WiiUpgrade up to par with 360/PS3 that are 6 to 7 years old.
Thats what I dislike about Nintendo. They were great once. Now its only their 1st party games that are the same over and over again. Rehashing stuff to the max. Meh.
dont know how many times it has to be said that a stronger GPU makes up for whatever the CPU is lacking.
and i think next gen is going to be more so what you can do with a game (sand-box type stuff) and not so much how many pixels it has. games will look better, yeah, but nowhere near the same leap as snes was to ps1/n64.
Oh and because this guy disagrees with you, he's a troll? Please! If that's the case, then your the biggest troll for commenting and dissagreeing on everything I post!
PS4 and next Xbox will crap on this.
Refer back to this comment in about 2 years when all the consoles have released, and we'll see who's right and who are the fanboys eating crow.
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But like, what about when the next Playstation and the next Xbox? They're probably due pretty soon, and they'll likely more powerful consoles.
Edit.. Budgetgamer beat me to the obvious.
The fact that it's up for debate just shows how far Nintendo's reputation has fallen due to their history of releasing overpriced, inferior tech.
The PS3 is at the very edge of its life cycle and yet Sony announced more rhan 5 new ip's at Gamescom... Heck it wouldn't be a surprise if 8 days or The Getaway are launch titles for the next Sony home console, and by going by what they had so fair for Ps3, it should be Wii U owns that should be scarref if Sony continues to follow their successor consoles bring 10 timed mote powerful than there previous console trend...
Ex. PS2 10x more than Ps1
PSVita 10x more than PSP
PS3 10x more than PS2
So imagine a home console that is 10x more powerful than a PS3(if possible, at a reasonable price too)
Then what would be the reason for any Sony or even MS fan to be afraid of a Wii U in terms of visuals,AI, gameplay, etc.?
(P.s. I hate my phone)
@ ape007 most of those you listed are multiplatform so I really don't understand what kind of point you're trying to get across. Thanks.
All the power to Nintendo fans, finally stepping into the hd era! But come on, Nintendo lost their groove along time ago.
I believe the Wii U is a quick cash-in for Nintendo since it will be available before any new nextgen hardware. Their strategy may win them the sales battle (again) but in terms of higher quality gaming machine, we are pretty sure either of Sony/Microsoft will pull it off in terms of graphics, online gaming and entertainment capabilities.
The question is, how big the gap will be between Nintendo and the competition? Hardware technology nowadays is scary, and neither Sony or Microsoft are afraid to harness it and go on-par or even beyond the PC capabilities.
You want the best entertainment? Correct me if I am wrong but the wii has more of the highest rated games of the gen than the ps3 or 360 have exclusively.
The wii u preorders are sold out everywhere, you cant freaken get one
The wii u has already won in japan and the us
I am speaking in terms of technology, how big the gap will be between WiiU and the upcoming hardware. Don't try to convince me that technology isn't important or otherwise, why Nintendo were showing off their "processing power" and making it a 1080p res device.
If you have no clue about what I am talking about, go see Crysis 3 "DirectX11 PC-only Footage" then come back and tell me that can be played on WiiU.
game Devs use 9 or 11
10 is irrelevant
the wii was an enormous step behind the PS3/360 in both theoretical peak power, graphical output, and feature lists. it has some of the best games of the generation and absolutely destroyed both the PS3 and 360 in sales. the Vita wipes the floor with the 3DS in terms of specs and graphics and features. the 3DS wipes the floor with the Vita in terms of games and sales.
the reality is that graphics and specs mean next to nothing to the general public. they dont care if the wii u's cpu is "only" as good as the PS3 and 360s. they didnt care that the Wiis CPU was incredibly inferior. they just dont care about 99% of the things people on here argue about, and rightly so because most of it means very little in the real world.
I can see graphics looking slightly better on the Wii U. That's fine In all, but in the long run I'm afraid "slightly better" won't matter in this gen of consoles. The talk will be about the 720 and PS4 whenever they make there debut.
Pre-ordered and paid in full!
November cant come soon enough
http://www.techpowerup.com/...
ive posted this before but click the picture at the bottom and you will get the full specs for it, seems way more powerful than the x360 and PS3 graphic solutions.
Honestly, most of that sh!t went right over my head
But whatever, zombiu looks great and looks hella fun
Cant wait