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Resistance 3 artist “disappointed” at Borderlands 2 box art similarities

The artist Olly Moss has voiced his surprise and disappointment after it was brought to his attention that part of Borderlands 2′s box art bears more than a passing resemblance to one of his Empire Strikes Back artworks – especially as he’s a huge Gearbox fan himself and “would have jumped at chance to work with them.”

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HOSe1376d ago

first apple now gearbox! today is a sad day!

Christopher1375d ago (Edited 1375d ago )

But, that's not, technically, "box art"... that's an inside flap piece of artwork. It's not being used to advertise the game to the public at all nor is it being used to make money off of someone else's work. Box art tends to refer to the publicly visible artwork you would see on the shelf prior to buying, opening, and perusing the various inside elements of the game case.

And, I'd say this falls under homage. If the artist has an issue with someone creating an homage that otherwise could have been replaced with your standard non-descript background... *shrugs* they need to get over it.

If Gearbox were selling and making money off of this specific piece of artwork, I'd agree. But they're not and the game itself is a big hodgepodge of homages and easter eggs.

Ducky1375d ago (Edited 1375d ago )

The artist's concern was that they didn't contact him or anything, and chose to directly copy an element (specifically the 'zigzag') instead of imitating/recreating them.

He wasn't offended/angry at Gearbox.
You can check his twitter feed...

... also, it seems Randy Pitchford agrees that directly copying parts of the original poster wasn't right and they're working something out...
... and I suspect whoever is responsible for making that inside cover is going to get a paddlin'

Christopher1375d ago

@FatOldMan: I guess you're right. I felt upon initial reading that the "tone" of the article itself was more aggressive than it actually was.

Still, while it would have been nice to get a notice, I don't think the author should really be disappointed that someone else in the gaming industry actually felt it worth paying them an homage of sorts.

Though, it's possible they did just rip it off. If they did, then I doubt that author will be working for much longer at Gearbox.

Luckily, if they follow standard protocols for saving art assets, they should be able to determine pretty easily whether certain elements were 'ripped' or created by hand.

Bobby Kotex1375d ago

Not sure what you're smoking. Who the hell does a 'homage' to box art from a few years ago?

Christopher1375d ago

***Not sure what you're smoking. Who the hell does a 'homage' to box art from a few years ago?***

Lots of people. Especially if they both work in the same industry. Oh, yeah, they do...

Wenis1375d ago (Edited 1375d ago )

At first I thought it was just copying the style, and thought that the artist was overreacting. But then I saw FatOldMan's comment, and went back and sure enough it was blatant plagiarism.. not sure if Gearbox should take the blame though, but instead should be focused on the artist who did it. (unless of course that the 'zigzag line' thing was like a stock image and not something created by the Resistance artist)

Lord_Sloth1375d ago

Exactly.

1st Apple was all like "OMG ROUNDED RECTANGLES AND SQUARES! THAT'S OURS!!!!!"

Now this guy's all like "OMG MAH ZIG ZAGS IN A GAME FULL OF PARODIES OF GREAT STUFF!!!"

Gamer19821375d ago

The point is the bit he claimed he copied was a zigzag on a mountain.. Seriously? I mean out of all things.. Like that bit of the box art is gonna make them sales or anything. I cannot understand people sometimes they get annoyed at the stupidest of things. If he ripped the whole artwork fair enough but an element of it? Gimme a break..

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Kenshin_BATT0USAI1376d ago

I'm pretty sure it's just a homage, hence why they look alike. I mean if you play the game 90% of the things said and what happens is a pop culture reference.

dalibor1375d ago

Could be. But box arts nowadays just aren't as out of this world as they used to be like back during the nes and genesis days. Those box arts were pretty crazy. And we could even go further with the odyssey, fairlady, atari 2600 as well as the other systems.

And Vashlion what was the name of the skit that you have as an avatar. Been meaning to see it again but totally forgot the name of it.

Kenshin_BATT0USAI1375d ago

the skit was Dear Diary (aka the shooting). enjoy :D

hmm on a second glance it does look fairly lazy. well whatever, it happens.

Ducky1375d ago

If it was just a similar style, then I'd agree...

.. but the 'zigzag' pattern on the canyon is a direct copy, and it seems more like someone was feeling lazy rather than creating an homage.

grahf1375d ago

It is a direct copy, zig for zag, and thats a no-no in ANY medium.

All its missing is a TIE fighter..

Flavor1375d ago

But I thought y'all call it 'sharing' now... so its okay to rip off famous people but not un-famous people...

vickers5001375d ago

Does every single parody joke have to be given credit then? As someone said below, it's probably an easter egg for their upcoming dlc, which has some elements of star wars in it.

There are plenty of referential jokes in video games and tv shows and movies and whatnot, but they never express during the show or credits what the parody was in reference to, and they shouldn't have to.

If you don't get that it's a parody, then that's your problem for not knowing what they're talking about. If you do, then you should just enjoy it and not make a big girly fuss over the fact that they didn't specifically write out what it was a parody of. If you have to explain it, then it loses its effect.

ZombieNinjaPanda1375d ago (Edited 1375d ago )

@Flavor

Are you comparing plagiarism to file sharing? They're nowhere in the same ballpark.

@Vickers

I don't think you understand what a parody is, or what even happened in this situation.

vickers5001374d ago (Edited 1374d ago )

Well apparently you don't either. Ever see those "hope" or "change" obama parody posters? They're just parodying the original, just as the people who put the inside cover art are probably parodying that star wars poster.

But believe whatever ridiculous crap you want to believe and go ahead and jump to conclusions. It's pathetic how so many people these days are so set on starting fights over issues that don't even exist.

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Klonopin1375d ago

There is a fine line between homage and ripoff.

George Sears1376d ago

“if they’d called I would have just made them something new.”

Yeah but then they'll have to pay you which is what they don't want.

Karum1375d ago (Edited 1375d ago )

If he decided to take action they may end up paying anyway.

Anyway, hardly big gaming news.

TheRealSpy1375d ago

take action? what action could he take?

Karum1374d ago

Letting the air out of their car tyres.

I say this as I'm fairly surprised the obvious answer has gone over your head.

Statix1376d ago (Edited 1376d ago )

This is pretty blatant. It's not an "homage" because Olly Moss's posters and artwork weren't created too long ago, and they weren't official Star Wars posters.

You can't just completely rip off another artist's style and creation like that, without any form of compensation, or even acknowledgment in the credits that his artwork was an "inspiration."

Some people need to make a living, and to see starving artists have their work and visual ideas basically copied is rather disheartening.

antz11041376d ago

First off if anything I think it could be a homage, def not a "complete ripoff". It is possible for artists to have similar styles, if one guy draws a mountain and another guy draws a mountain it doesn't mean guy B was ripping off guy A.

Second, this guy is far from starving if he's doing art for R3.

camel_toad1375d ago

Yep I agree. As an artist I would guarantee Olly wasn't the first artist in the history of art to do something like that.

All ideas are born from other's ideas.

r40k2131375d ago

Except that if you read the article and look at the images you'll realize they actually used parts of the original image. "Similar style" isn't an excuse for copy pasting someone else's work.

camel_toad1375d ago (Edited 1375d ago )

@r04k213

I did read the article and looked at the images and I don't see any copy n pasting as you put it. The style is extremely similar but it is still not a copy and paste of any of ollys work.

When darksiders came out people said they stole the art design from world of war craft but what the idiots didn't know was that the comic book artist had that style 10 years before world of war craft even came out.

Out of the billions of people in the world there's a very good chance that when someone has a "unique" idea its already been thought of or done before.

shiver1301375d ago

@Camel_Toad

Look at the pictures again...

See the ziz-zagging right under Jack's neck? It looks too be completely copy and pasted from the Star Wars image.

Statix1375d ago (Edited 1375d ago )

@antz1104

You're implying that it's possible these two artists had "similar styles." Well, then, that would be QUITE the coincidence. I would go with the common sense opinion that, based on the similarities in color palette, theme, composition, and style, that this was more than mere simple "coincidence," and that the Borderlands 2 artist has at least SEEN the posters created by Olly Moss.

Sorry, but it's just common sense. The two artworks are just way too similar to dismiss as "mere coincidence" that they are so alike.

grahf1375d ago

Nobody is disputing the overall "style" of the BL2 art is similar to Moss's, and I'm sure you could go back through the history of art and find plenty of references where Moss got an idea for his image.

The problem is the blatant ripoff of a part of the image. Its copy/paste.

Eldyraen1375d ago

The style isn't the issue--similarities are just way too pronounced. The river is the most obvious but if you visit the site and look at the 3cpo and Fett images in particular you cannot help but notice the similarities. I would like to see an overlay of those two original images compared to Botderlands as it is even more uncanny.

The tilt of the head, 1 collar off each SW character and even the basic shape of the "head" minus hair (it's pretty much 3cpo with a wig and few minor sharp angle softening). Coincidence? Perhaps but not likely IMO. There are few others as well but less obvious or natural coincidences. I've never even used photoshop but I can just see too many easy minor alterations that make up most of the top 3/4 of the image. The black and white comparison is huge too as if you look close more of the background but infrint of the river is similar (faint ridge line and odd artifacts where enemies on Borderlands are).

Granted could all be a huge coincidence but I'm sure someone at Gearbox is going to be asking questions.

camel_toad1375d ago (Edited 1375d ago )

I concede. I was looking at it from my phone and didn't see the zig zag which I admit is a total copy and paste. (slapping myself in the face repeatedly for being an idiot)

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hardcorehippiez1375d ago

speaking as an artist, well musician but still i find it kind of flattering the people cover / copy your stuff as long as you say they give acknowledgement to the original creators . agree 100 percent .

hardcorehippiez psn hippiez2007

3rdDimension1375d ago

My friend, you are miss-informed.

Those Star Wars poster he did are officially licensed.

http://www.moss.fm/post/235...

LewisDenby1376d ago

I imagine the artist cares because someone is profiting out of his work for free, without permission.

TooTall191376d ago

It's not his work though.

aliengmr1375d ago

Considering the fact that the pieces, while very similar, aren't the same I'm surprised you have any agrees at all.

You can copyright a specific piece, not something as vague as style.

omi25p1375d ago

how are gearbox profiting out of a reverse-able box art?